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  1. ISO #451

    Re: S-FM Instant Mafia IV

    I'll insult his plays as much as i want. Hes a sheep. A terrible sheep at that.
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  2. ISO #452

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Lol blink is new and hes currently waaaay more smart than MM whos played like at least 10 games now.

    Theres no way theres 2 mason teams as there isnt even a partner for the SOLO MASON. Plus setup doesnt permit that.

    Setup speculation is very important in games. All your points are invalkd as youre scum soooo i take what you say eith a very small grain of salt.

    OF COURSE NAZ CLAIMS MASON. Shes your scummate.

    PEOPLE, THERES NO MASON TEAM.
    Also, I wasn't SERIOUSLY suggesting two mason factions. I was clearly stating that the only way for us BOTH to be telling the truth (the only scenario in which you're not lying) is if there was a separate mason all by her angry little self. However, as I stated since we have a sheriff and a confirmed citizen, the only possibility is for you to be LYING, aka, SCUM.

    You keep using the host as your backup for everything. It's actually quite pathetic. It shows that all of your arguments lack any sort of foundation, so you keep trying to look to the set up or the host to give you any kind of leg to stand on.

    I'm actually losing respect for you mesk. I mean ballsy play, but some of the things you're doing, even as scum is just morally reprehensible. And this is coming from the guy who attacks people on the reg. (Granted they deserve it) the way in which you've attacked MM this game is just beyond the pale of what is acceptable play. It was to the point where host had to issue you an easement/warning. You're in charge of the FM section and this is how you conduct yourself?

    I think you need to take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror and think about what type of player and person you want to be.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  3. ISO #453

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    LOL so I totally misread the timer. (I thought it was counting down till voting opens)

    Y'all have about 17 hours before you can lynch mesk or myself.

    Of course we do have longer after that, but the earliest lynch possible is in a little over 17 and a half hours or so.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  4. ISO #454

  5. ISO #455

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aardvarks Bark View Post
    Any reason not to just flip a coin and vote for whoever's side comes up?
    bc it's a 1 lynch game. LOL

    If you flip wrong you could be throwing game.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  6. ISO #456

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    Quote Originally Posted by naz View Post
    Hello Mason #1

    xoxo Mason #2

    Damn, you guys, I'm really bad at this. I shouldn't sign up for these, I can't read all these walls of text. I'm trying my best to catch up! However, I'm not really interested in the back and forth bantering, that was really dramatic lol. Can we vote yet? Also, what is wifoam or whatever you guys are saying?
    Wifoam XD

    It's WIFOM, google it, there are FM wikis.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  7. ISO #457

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Ptb even forgot to mention that everyone got a link to the game soooo
    How do you know EVERYONE got that? cheating??? :s
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  8. ISO #458

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    Quote Originally Posted by naz View Post
    Did PTB copy paste the DM sent to him or something??? What did I miss holy shit lol
    He PARAPHRASED. Quoting it = Cheating.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  9. ISO #459

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Wine In Front Of Me

    From princess bride: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9TRMQwMNnY


    Also, hi mason #2 nice to formally meet you
    Lol!!! That video XD
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  10. ISO #460

    Re: S-FM Instant Mafia IV

    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    but that'd be dumb anyway. As Naz confirmed I'm Mason #1 as (s)he claimed mason #2 which is constant to how Role Card was set up.

    The only thing possible is mesk is mason #3 and cant read.

    Otherwise, which is the easiest and simplest answer. Mesk is scum.
    Hm. Just pointing something out: you ain't 100% confirmed. You could still be scum with Naz. It's really really REALLLYYYYYY unlikely, but it's possible. I don't want to fall in the trap of "Gg game solved!", and will not consider you as 100% confirmed. In other words, no :P
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  11. ISO #461

  12. ISO #462

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    but that'd be dumb anyway. As Naz confirmed I'm Mason #1 as (s)he claimed mason #2 which is constant to how Role Card was set up.

    The only thing possible is mesk is mason #3 and cant read.

    Otherwise, which is the easiest and simplest answer. Mesk is scum.
    Huh. You stated yourself that your role card said "You have A teammate. This option is excluded.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  13. ISO #463

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aardvarks Bark View Post
    50% is a high chance of success.

    the stakes are incredibly low because we didn't have to put any effort into solving a puzzle. the difference between winning and losing barely exists.
    Ehh
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  14. ISO #464

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Hm. Just pointing something out: you ain't 100% confirmed. You could still be scum with Naz. It's really really REALLLYYYYYY unlikely, but it's possible. I don't want to fall in the trap of "Gg game solved!", and will not consider you as 100% confirmed. In other words, no :P
    Good, this is what I told you to do since game start. Push me.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  15. ISO #465

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aardvarks Bark View Post
    50% is a high chance of success.

    the stakes are incredibly low because we didn't have to put any effort into solving a puzzle. the difference between winning and losing barely exists.
    Aardvarks, you only contribution so far is saying that mass claiming is boring. You didn't take position in the Mesk/PTB fight, and are trying to draw attention off them. Why is that? Your sentences (I don't mean to insult you here, but it's necessary) are vague and useless, you are trying to circumvent the subject with some wordy language about being easy or not... If you're town, you're playing poorly.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  16. ISO #466

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Good, this is what I told you to do since game start. Push me.
    "Push me" I don't see what I'd push on you. If I push someone, it's to get 1) a defense 2) thoughts 3) a reaction. I have no reason to push you right now, you do not seem scummy in your posts, and since you post a lot, I believe it'd be very hard to not slip anything as scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  17. ISO #467

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Huh. You stated yourself that your role card said "You have A teammate. This option is excluded.
    It should be clear by subsequent posts that this option IS NOT possible.

    I'm just being my sarcastic asshole self.

    I know I'm mason, I know Naz is mason at this point. And really all I can hope is that I convinced enough of you that my claims are true, and Mesk's aren't.

    And if I haven't, I hope to.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  18. ISO #468

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    @Nawa the sleepy cat, mind to not be gyrlanderish and to contribute? Take position about the PTB/Mesk drama. Your thoughts about Blinkskater. We must all be active, else it's as I said earlier: a 3 players game.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  19. ISO #469

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    "Push me" I don't see what I'd push on you. If I push someone, it's to get 1) a defense 2) thoughts 3) a reaction. I have no reason to push you right now, you do not seem scummy in your posts, and since you post a lot, I believe it'd be very hard to not slip anything as scum.
    Good enough for me.

    If you think of anything, just ping me with the @ symbol.

    I'll leave this open and check back before bed, but I'm gonna finish watching some Punisher while trying to make an xmas list.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  20. ISO #470

    Re: S-FM Instant Mafia IV

    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    It should be clear by subsequent posts that this option IS NOT possible.

    I'm just being my sarcastic asshole self.

    I know I'm mason, I know Naz is mason at this point. And really all I can hope is that I convinced enough of you that my claims are true, and Mesk's aren't.

    And if I haven't, I hope to.
    If Mesk is really Mason solo, I'll be really super surprised. That's why I'm voting her and I don't think I'm wrong by doing so.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  21. ISO #471

    Re: S-FM Instant Mafia IV

    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Good enough for me.

    If you think of anything, just ping me with the @ symbol.

    I'll leave this open and check back before bed, but I'm gonna finish watching some Punisher while trying to make an xmas list.
    Ok, see you tomorrow. Side note: I might not be very active tomorrow. I got a very busy day, and will not be online for several hours. Life is cruel R.I.P. Saturday.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  22. ISO #472

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    If Mesk is really Mason solo, I'll be really super surprised. That's why I'm voting her and I don't think I'm wrong by doing so.
    I can confirm, you are not wrong. Despite what mesk says about you.

    However, I understand my word means little. It really comes down to comparing post per post of mesk and I.

    I think SB16 is gonna do an ISO on us both. I think that is good. It will help clear it up for the people on the fence.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  23. ISO #473

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Ok, see you tomorrow. Side note: I might not be very active tomorrow. I got a very busy day, and will not be online for several hours. Life is cruel R.I.P. Saturday.
    I know I'm gonna try and do some shopping tomorrow!
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  24. ISO #474

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    @Marshmallow Marshall Real talk? There's nothing to actually talk about. There's no such thing as poor town play because there is no actual game to be playing.

    I don't have to build a case to determine which shout-y and rude teenager is lying to me. Either Mesk got screwed by a non-standard game setup and PTB and Naz took advantage of it, or Mesk took a weird and bizarre gamble by claiming solo mason and it blew back on her almost immediately. Do you see many other possibilities?

  25. ISO #475

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    Of course blink is siding with me. He loves the fuck outta me and he knows how to play.

    Again if blink is sheriff and there was 2 masons that could openly claim just like that the town would be massively at an advantage. Hence another reasons why the masons were not allowed to openly claim last game.

    Im telling you, iced did this to me for his own personal pleasure lol. He had nothing better to do with his weekend
    He knows how to play? he doesn't even know how to vote. Pffs. He's just doing a bullshit blind meatrust on you because it's the only thing he can do right now... and we can't say he's trash, he's just new. Also you're seriously toying with the fact that you're admin, and I don't like this, whatever your alignment is.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  26. ISO #476

  27. ISO #477

  28. ISO #478

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    I giggled too hard at this.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  29. ISO #479

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aardvarks Bark View Post
    Or the much much smaller door #3 which is where this game contains a pair of Masons and a solo mason for some reason
    Yeah, I don't think that door actually exists.

    If it does by some chance, I will literally quit this site.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  30. ISO #480

  31. ISO #481

  32. ISO #482

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aardvarks Bark View Post
    Honestly it would be hilarious and would also prove my point about claim meta being terrible
    I just have to believe that IM would not run a set up like that.

    Who knows, this isn't a ladder game.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  33. ISO #483

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly View Post
    I really shouldnt have to clarify this, but because apparently the idea is being entertained (even jokingly).. No it is not possible to have separate mason factions.
    Thanks, DAD!
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  34. ISO #484

  35. ISO #485

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aardvarks Bark View Post
    meat rust.
    Meta trust...
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  36. ISO #486

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iced_Monopoly View Post
    I really shouldnt have to clarify this, but because apparently the idea is being entertained (even jokingly).. No it is not possible to have separate mason factions.
    Thanks god. Mesk, another hiding falls...
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  37. ISO #487

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    Lynching is possible at 5:01pm eastern.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Shut up cow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Did you just fucking call him a cow?
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
    No, he played as well as he could. He had you right in the palm of his fucking hand all game and you STILL don’t get that. He played you like a fucking fiddle, and it was so obvious and it pains me that nobody else saw it.

  38. ISO #488

  39. ISO #489

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    @Nawa the sleepy cat, mind to not be gyrlanderish and to contribute? Take position about the PTB/Mesk drama. Your thoughts about Blinkskater. We must all be active, else it's as I said earlier: a 3 players game.
    blinkskater is a sheriff
    PTB is scum with his/her Ultimate THATS A FUCKING SCUMSLIP about "Mason #1" instead of just "Mason"
    -vote PowersThatBe

    Masons don't have numbers.
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  40. ISO #490

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  42. ISO #492

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nawa View Post
    Just so you know: any rolecard PM should include rolecard. PTBs paraphrasal didn't include it. Ergo, PTB lied.
    Naz & PTB team is totally possible for me.
    MM's vote is based on unlikeliness of solo Mason. Naz and PTB both claimed Masons in team with eachother.
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  43. ISO #493

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    Mesks first In depth ISO


    Now, I am a firm believer that long posts do not make you town, nor do reads lists. However, PTB is so goddamn cocky in thinking his plays is so A1 and exactly the same as every other town game he plays in (just like he was in lady gaga) I wasn't going to sit around and let you fucks attempt to lynch me with out POINTING OUT EVERYTHING I can that's wrong with him and his line of reasoning. Bottom line. First 60 posts in, PTB soft claimed Mason in a very very weak way and claimed Citizen 3 times. He did nothing but post long fluffy posts flattering himself and trying to coach others how to play. He says he's in this game to help town scum hunt but he himself did zero scum hunting. He actually told people how to scum hunt instead of doing it himself.

    The following quotes are pulled between post 1 and post 200. I will do the rest but I'm afraid I am going to lose this post before I can even post it.

    I know it's long but i took the liberty of summarizing all the main points i want to summarize. They go as follow - PLEASE READ THEM. I won't tag MM in this cause I really don't give a fuck about his vote. he's a lost cause.

    @Stealbomber16, @blinkskater , @Aardvarks Bark , @Nawa

    To win, with out MM, we need all of us on PTBs train.



    1. PTB claims in his second post that the only way to win this game is to correctly guess the proper CC. SECOND POST IN HE KNOWS HE’S GOING TO PULL SOME COUNTER CLAIMING SHIT

    2. says there shouldn’t be a mass claim but if theres no mass claim or outings of roles how would we get counter claims? by his own words, the only way to win is to lynch the proper cc, and in order to get those ccs, everyone would need to claim. maybe not their role explicatedly, but they would have to at least say whether they are wanting to counter the claim itself, which STILL GIVES SCUM INFO.

    8. just in case no one claims Mason, he’s preparing himself for the Sheriff CC.

    15. Ungenuinely tries to help blink but in a way that talks down to him and actually doesn’t help.

    22. misrepresents what Blink says and tries to make it sound like Blink is scum, even though from a towns members point of view, what blink said is absolutely correct. PTB also claims he’s not a TPR, trying to save his ass in case he decides theres no need to cc a TPR claim. Mentions MM so he can befriend MM more and make sure him and MM are on the same page, moving along together. Says he doesn’t care about blinks claim but spent 3 posts talking about it and trying to lead that potentially blink could be scum.Flatters himself by saying you need balls to play as scum correctly in a game like this.

    24. PTB hard claims citizen after leaving a trail of open doors for him to potentially switch his claim should he need

    26. Questions what my role claim is even after he says no mass claiming and theres a TPR claim brought to the table. If he genuinely thought I was the mayor he would have kept this on the hush instead of trying to bring it to the front and centre, again leaving another door for him to CC another claim.

    27. Dissmisses what I have to say as I’m slowly trying to make my way to town leader, he can’t have that though because his whole game play is based around making people think he’s the town leader.

    28. Greets AA with a friendly hello, however it wasn’t the same welcome he gave blink. He can easily dismiss Blink as a trash mod player, but he knows he can’t do the same with AA.

    31. I highly suggest everyone turn their attention to this quote. PTB appeals to MMs emotion and basically states EXACTLY what he’s doing this game.

    33. PTB claims citizen again, again stating I’m hardcore claiming Mayor, which is completely incorrect given my first post i claimed citizen, then glorified. He was just waiting for a Mason claim to CC. exactly how he said he wanted it to play out in his second post (quote 1) in the game.

    36. A WHOLE POST ABOUT HIMSELF AND TRYING TO MAKE AA THINK HE’S AN OPEN BOOK. No where did he mention that in his scum game in Lady Gaga, he did the exact same thing by trying to make the town think he’s the town leader.

    41. PTB says people who are vague have something to hide. That completely contradicts the fact he claimed citizen 3 times and made a weak attempt in soft claiming mason. (weak soft claim in quote 15.)

    44. PTB SAYS HES IN THE GAME TO HELP TOWN SCUM HUNT YET INSTEAD OF SCUM HUNTING HIMSELF, HE HAS JUST TOLD PEOPLE HOW TO LOOK FOR SCUM! HE HIMSELF HAS ONLY FLATTERED HIMSELF AND POINT OUT HE HAS BIG BALLS.

    46. long ass post dedicated to flattering himself. GIVE NO INFORMATION. IT’S BASICALLY HIM TELLING PEOPLE HOW HE ACTS SO IF THEY COMPARE HIS PLAY TO ANOTHER GAME, HE CAN JUST PULL THIS UP FOR REFERENCE.

    47. another warm welcome after totally looking down at blink. Of course this is his scum partner so he want’s to be nice!

    50 POSTS INTO THE GAME - PTB HAS DONE NOTHING HIMSELF TO SCUM HUNT, HE CLAIMED 3 DIFFERENT ROLES AND LEFT A MOUNTAINOUS AMOUNT OF OPEN DOORS FOR HIM TO POTENTIALLY CHANGE HIS CLAIM. HE HAD A VERY VERY VERY WEAK SOFT CLAIM, HE DID NOTHING BUT FLATTER HIMSELF AND TOOT HIS OWN HORN AND PREACH HOW TO SCUM HUNT WITH OUT DOING SO HIMSELF!

    52. this is exactly where I claimed Mason as a response to PTB’s challenge. I urge you to please look at everything i’ve highlighted. For someone who said it was obvious i was soft claiming hardcore mayor, why would he need me to say it? he was challenging me to a duel. he was waiting for that cc!

    54. he claims his citizen claim was bait, but then why did he potentially try and leave open rooms for him to claim sheriff or mayor himself?

    56. PTB was the first to claim my position as head of the section for his benefit. & he uses it as an insult. Please look at this quote directly. He IS ALSO the first to call into play host meta.

    58. PTB admits he was scoping out the playing field.

    59. an explanation from myself as to why, 2 masons, a sheriff with his cit is too over powered for town,

    62. please direct your attention to more rebuttal of the setup.




    Spoiler : Everything that's wrong with PTB - first 60 + posts :
    1.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    I’m against it at this point. I’ve never played a set up like this, but an early mass claim would allow scum to blend in from the beginning of the game. Whereas at the end of the game you can make a better assessment based on their behavior throughout the game. Also in a one lynch game you have to get it 100% right in a Cc.

    The more info you give scum early in the game the more of a disadvantage you put us in. Scum already knows that we’re town, giving them our roles this early would make us more easily manipulated.

    PTB's real first post is about thanksgiving, however he doesn't dillydally when it comes to jumping right in it. The irony in this post is real, but this is the easiest go to rebuttal ever! The only actual advantage scum has from knowing everyones roles is knowing whether their TPR role claim would seem fishy or not. Right off the bat PTB jumps into the game trying to coach MM on how to play and what to do. Basically telling MM that if he doesn't keep quiet, he's putting himself at a disadvantage. The irony in this whole post is just by saying all this, he is trying to manipulate you into believing he is town and he knows what he's doing. He's harping on the fact he tries to take strong leadership every game and half the players in this game are absolutely morons. PTB knows his audience, he knows this is the kind of response MM wants. Notice how he says "Also in a one lynch game you have to get it 100% right in a Cc" He knew he was going to pull this shit right from the get go. Mostly all of you are falling for it! shame.

    2.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Also without a night there is no way for claims to prove anything etc etc

    This turkey is making it hard to type lol.

    Only people who should claim are host confirmable roles like mayor (if there is one) or potentially masons if there are masons (if they’re allowed) so they can use their chat to confirm.. but again scum could fake claim masons too.

    Basically the whole point of this game is to hone traditional scum hunting tactics. So you’re going to have to look at every post everyone makes and ask your self the sole important question.

    “If this person is scum, what would be their motivation to say what they’re saying?”

    Then apply the same thing to town “what would be town motivated reasons for saying what they’re saying.
    First of all, the PTB we all know and love always trys to act smart. acting and being smart is totally two different things. He's correct, with out night there's no way anything is proven, but he already knows who is town. You can see he knows nothing about the Mason role itself given he tries to play it safe by stating that potentially Masons could claim, but only if they're allowed too. The actual whole point here is PTB trying to make you think that he is trying to use tradition scum hunting tactics as scum to his benefit. He's good at trying to keep his play in check but everything he says is a setup to make you believe he is the real leader. Again, Why would PTB claim the only way to win is by getting the correct CC, especially if he says that we shouldn't mass claim. If there's a mass claim you will be able to lynch between the CCs. He flip flops. Not only does he flip flop but he tries to use BASICASS town scum hunting techniques... but he doesn't actually use them whatsoever. It's pure teaching! all talk but no practicing what he preaches.

    3.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Then figure out what makes more sense when comparing the two motivations and vote based on that.
    So YOU MUST TAKE PTBS LINE OF REASONING AND USE IT TO VOTE. fuck your judgement, fuck your gut, you must only use his line of reasoning! (sarcasm, he's scum lol)

    4.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    How would you even know nawa was town?
    PTB already knew Nawa was town, this is not a genuine question, he feels obligated to ask!

    5.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Just when we thought we escaped the trolls
    Of course, when someone claims, they have to be a troll. If they go against ptbs scum line of reasoning, they must be a troll. Mind you when i think someones trash I call them a moron, difference here is PTB still needs to gather votes on his side so he can't go overboard with the insults. We all know ptb for going hard in the paint with the insults, so this is something very against his town play.

    6.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Interesting. I’ve never played this setup so I didn’t know it sends roles to sheriffs.you and nawa could easily be scum though...
    So PTB didn't read the setup and basically openly admits it. Of course, he doesn't hesitate to try and leave some wiggle room for the possibility for him to shift his suspicions if needed

    7.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Lol it’s not that simple. First forum mafia game?
    PTB makes it seem like theres absolutely no room to take mod scum hunting tactics. this is false and not even 5 posts into the game for blink he's putting him down. Basically, more, if you don't apply what I'm teaching you to apply, you're bad.

    8.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Well we have no way of actually knowing that. Lol. I feel like you’re trolling, but only time will tell. So we’ll wait for a sheriff cc if there will be one. That will help with scum poe
    PTB has left all kinds of doors open! He's very confident scum will get caught in a TPR claim. He knows when it comes down to it, he's going to CC a TPR claim!

    9.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Lol you’re far from confirmed, you spelled my name wrong, and you can’t vote for another 2 days.
    More belittling of the new player!

    10.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    LOL forum mafia is way different than the mod. Also you’re not allowed to vote yet. Breaking rules does not make you town.

    I also never said you’re scum. I said it’s a possibility and your claims mean shit, and the fact that you named one other player is sus because that’s something scum would do to get town clout.

    Also your OMGUS voting me and over defensiveness leads me to have serious doubts about your claim.
    More leaving of the doors open. Blink wasn't even breaking any rules and PTB came at him with an iron fist. but again, he makes sure to let everyone know, he only thinks it's a possibility for blink to be scum... it's only a suspicion. That has to be made clear every time he pokes at someone!

    11.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Lol just realized you either fake voted intentionally (doubtful) or you don’t know how to vote

    The command for voting follows

    [ vote ] player name [ /vote ]

    Without the spaces
    PTB fence sitting! first blink is bad because he comes from the mod, so everything has to be attacked, but only once he shows he doesn't know how to vote, PTB slightly lightens up. It's an effort to make it seem like PTB really gives a fuck. And the matter of fact is, he does care if Blink knows how to vote, cause PTB wants blink to vote with him. That's PTBs goal here.

    12.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    That may be true in the mod, but in forum mafia, usually the scum try to say shit confus the town since there is no way to really “prove” they are lying or not.

    You’re gonna have a long road if you think everyone who questions or challenges you is scum. Just saying
    so much irony, omg! exactly that, scum will try and say things to confuse you since town can't prove anything!!! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HE'S DOING. By saying those things he's trying to let blink know that he can be trusted, which is a lie because he's scum just trying to confuse you into thinking that. the wifom is real.

    13.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    I did but I must have over looked that lol
    extremely anti town to not read the setup. you don't know what your teammates are like, then how do you know what you're sorting through? it doesn't matter to him cause he's scum

    14.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Lol so that’s a wrap I guess.

    There are like 7 other people in the game for you to consider.

    FYI tunneling someone or being stubborn in a one lynch game is not pro town.
    Passive, yes! but he's still trying to teach blink how to play! it reeks pure ungeniune help, has pure scum ulterior motive

    15.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Lol I guess I hate sheriff so much I overlooked it. I read mayor and instantly read the mason descriptions.
    this is the shittiest soft claim ever, of course he read the mason descriptions instantly, he knew he would have to cc someone as he stated in post 1.

    16.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Anyone can wifom it’s the cornerstone of FM
    EVEN SCUM OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG LIKE HE'S BASICALLY SAYING ANYONE CAN WIFOM THIS WAS BASICALLY A RESPONSE SAYING I AM SCUM AND I AM WIFOMING THE SHIT OUT OF YOU RIGHT NOW, HEY LOOK ANYONE CAN DO IT.

    17. 59 was a pure turkey post

    18.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    A very tough one to just jump into
    more belittling, not only is ptb not welcome since he's seen blink is giving him a hard time, he makes it seem like in this community you need an acquired set of skills (have you seen MM?)

    19.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    I don’t know him so idk about that. But I’ll take your word for it for now.
    PTB knows his audience very very very well, and if you can't see that the second someone suggest blink may be town, he backs off. especially given he needs MMs vote, cause MM is really the only idiot that could follow him so blindly. MM loves sucking that scum dick.

    20.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Are you saying sb16 is doing OMGUs? And assigning him scumpoints?
    "oh why thank you for casting shade for me you village idiot, you make my life so much easier, i don't even need to point i think sb16 is scum, you're already doing it for me" what ptb really meant to say to MM

    21.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Do you know what OMGUS stands for?
    "do you know what it means, cause if you don't I'm going to take this opportunity to make you look like an idiot who really needs me cause i know what the acronym for OMGUS stands for!" more of what PTB really meant to say.

    22. In response to: "Ok, so Nawa cant reveal as mayor is Nawa is a Citizen and if you all lynch Nawa we lose" by blinkskater, ptb says this -
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Notice he didn't say town loses. I'm not saying he's scum, but this would be a scum slip if he is. There is nothing about what blink said a slip, even if blink was scum. Blink as a member of the town would not vote Nawa given he knows Nawa is on his side. SO if now were lynched, HE WOULD NOT BE PART OF IT, MEANING THERE'S NO WE. IT'S THEM. IT WOULD BE THE REST OF THEM FUCKING TOWNS MEMBERS!

    Truth be told, we have no idea if there is a sheriff in this set up. We could have masons, and if we have masons, would we have a sheriff and a confirmed role? See, if there's two masons, and a sheriff and a confirmed role and Masons can confirm theirselves, THAT IS WAY TOO TOWN OVER POWERED. THATS 4 CONFIRMED ROLES BASICALLY.

    Would we have masons, sheriff, and mayor in this set up? Therefore confirming like 90% of the town lol.

    I DOUBT Icy would do that, so for now we gotta see what happens. Based on this logic, if he doubts iced would do that, then Blink must be my scum partner and he must have been really really really luck being able to claim Nawa was a citizen, 3 posts in.

    I still don't think we should mass claim. BUT for the newer players, optics is everything in FM. And what blink did (potentially at the direction of his scum parter nawa IF they're scum) is play the I SAID IT FIRST SO ITS TRUE ABOUT ME, AND ANYONE WHO CLAIMS AFTER IS A LIAR! MM has played by this rule before "FIRST COME FIRST SERVE." Nawa COULD (emphasis on the COULD, meaning it IS possible) be scum directing blink. PTB knows he's going to have to CC at some point in the game to win this so he's making sure no one pulls a first come first serve tactic.

    I cannot saying, unfortunately I am not a TPR this game, and thus, I cannot CC a sheriff claim or give any insight into the town make-up. So he lied to you. Just in case, someone says they think PTBs a TPR, he has it already noted down that HE ISN'T A TPR.

    I do know that anyone could say anything, and just because Blink claimed first, does not mean he gets to be sheriff. I'm not saying he's not sheriff. BUT, the possibility is there.
    @Marshmallow Marshall I saw you falling into this trap earlier with the "he's far from confirmed not being true" because he is far from being confirmed, and Nawa's word doesn't mean anything. Scum have a private chat they can use all game, to think we're not at a disadvantage to them is silly. He prays on MM, because he knows MM is an idiot and will basically follow any asshat that shows him any sort of half decent attention

    Once again, I don't feel like arguing with blink (who I just met like 3 or 4 hours ago) about "his word" or him "not being able to tell lies" because that shit doesn't mean anything to me. If his claim didn't mean shit to him, why did he spend 3 posts addressing it and leaving all this "he potenitally could be this and he cold potentially be that", all around?

    Would scum out their partner this early in a ballsy move like that in a one lynch game? IDK, but you kinda gotta go balls to the wall in a set up like this.
    More self flattery, basically trying to show the world how big his balls are. no one cares boo, put them nasty things away.
    23. tells me what OMGUS means

    24.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    *town make-up as in TPR POE (process of elimination)

    and yes that means I'm claiming citizen
    PTB hard claims citizen after leaving a trail of open doors for him to possibly switch his claim

    25. so I say this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    waddup waddup, i'm loving how ptb is trying to school us all! unfortunately I am the real leader of this town, so... step back down my child.


    ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T TRY WILL SUFFER MY WRATH THROUGH THE INTERNET!
    in which PTB responds with

    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    "Trying to school" more like "teaching everyone" as this is supposedly a training game.
    says he's teaching yet he was speaking is such a condescending way, and mentioning MM to make sure MM sees how he wants MM to play. then he says

    26.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    So you're soft claiming Mayor? lol
    after saying town shouldn't mass claim, with already a tpr claim brought to the table, he tries draw the attention to the fact I said I was the leader of the town, patiently waiting for a good TPR role to CC.

    I then say
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    NO I AM CLAIMING I AM GLORIFIED
    muahahahhahahhahahahaha
    BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I AM! A GLORIFIED CITIZEN. I AM A CITIZEN WITH A DIFFERENT NAME!

    27.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Did Efekannn02 hack into Mesk's account LMAO
    dismisses what I have to say as being trollish, given he sees I am basically claiming a TPR he has to down play myself as a troll until he has a concrete role to CC

    28.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Hi I'm PTB.
    tries to make friends with one of the new players who doesn't play the mod. 0 respect lol. basically gives AA respect because he's willing to lose Blinks vote in the end game, but not a more experienced player, as of course he can just always dismiss blink as a trashy mod player.

    29.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    tries to gain town credit by knowing the actual definition of OMGUS, this is something that was said in response to MM poking that PTB may be scum.

    30.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    its suck not scum, dear one.
    more and more he tries to help and teach MM.

    31.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    It's not irrelevant. YOU as the reader need to think with in an OPEN MIND that JUST because you know this guy or think you know him, does not mean you should just take his word or his claims. YOU HAVE to back everything up with logical thought as to WHY or WHAT MOTIVATION would a player have by saying or claiming what he's claiming.
    Teaching, teaching, and more teaching. The only motivation PTB has to go this into detail with MM (a known moron) is so MM thinks PTB is genuinely trying to help him, but clearly not the case at all.

    Yes, I said said it IS POSSIBLE he is lying and Nawa is his scummate. Now, why? Because look how easily you accept it as truth. If I'm scum, I'm looking at the players in the game, and I'm thinking to myself, now who can I get on my side if I make a town claim? Scum only needs to secure 3 votes. the only motivation PTB has to teach MM is FOR THAT EXACT REASON. PTB is literally sitting there thinking that MM is so easily trusting things at face value, if you coach him a little, he will vote with you. again PTB knows his audience very well

    So if Nawa and Blink are scum, it seems you're following them. That's a vote right there, now they only need 2 more to get an ML and they have a 3rd person pushing with them.

    Stop including game meta and or mod meta into your play. It WILL NOT help you at all. wrong, theres many mod tactics you can use in this game, many fm tells apply to the mod and vice versa.

    I don't think you're retarded. I just think you're very sure of yourself a lot, and FM is not the type of game where you can ever really BE SURE without doing the logic work. Look at how PTB tries to appeal to MM's emotion!

    Also, yes, I said I was against mass claim, and then everyone mass claimed basically. What's the point anymore lol? Everyone did the thing I said not to do immediately after telling them not to do it.

    Also, remember MM, I have a keen eye for specific details. It's how I caught you in Masquerade Madness, and how I caught Nawa, SCV, and Hybrid in Undercover. More self flattery and cockiness

    So what seems like a small detail to you, can be an important clue to alignment to me. Often times this is true and the case.
    32.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    I never said I thought you were sus. I don't really know if SB16 said that either, you might be reading into things a bit.

    I will say, it is a scum tactic to try and buddy the confirmed role or the most towny person to be seen more towny.
    In this case, his scum tactic is buddying with the town moron and using him as a third vote (naz being the second)

    33.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    k idc if you doubt my position or not. LOL. It was pointless not to claim at this point, I'm not a TPR and one (or maybe the only one) immediately claimed right after I said not to, and he took a citi down with him. You claimed, and mesk is softing mayor hardcore.

    So actually this helps us sort the sheriff and nawa citizen claim becase we're pretty close to our max possible town role claims.
    After saying it multiple times, again he says he's a citizen. For someone who's claimed Citizen like 3 times, he sure is seeking out the TPRs still quite heavily. AGAIN, HE HAS ALL THOSE DOORS OPEN JUST IN CASE AN ACTUAL CLAIM COMES THROUGH, he's just waiting for someone to claim mason!


    34.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    yeah where I found you and hung your ass out to dry. xD
    more flattery about how GODlike he is.

    35.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    I think they mentioned me because I'm rude. LOL. They wanted me to put someone in their place.

    But I'll take wild boy with crazy moves <3
    More self flattery, remember when PTB said in quote 22 about how this setup requires balls... balls and crazy moves are like the same thing.

    36.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Hi my name is PTB.

    I started playing Mafia on the SC2 mod when it first came out or shortly after. I belonged to another community called Island Defense. Eventually I made my way back to the mod. Then, i was obsessed with keeping the game clean and fun. Because of my rigorous reports, and SC2Mafia staff member offered me the chance to apply for Keeper, I did, and was instantly hired in April 2016. I worked until the end of June essentially processing hundreds (close to a thousand?) of reports. I had some disagreements on what policy enforcement was, so I quit staff, was lured back, and quit a few weeks later due to other situations that don't matter here.

    However, during this time SJ (Superjack) hosted a 6 person S-FM called Beginners. This was my and Mesk's first game. During my first game I wanted to impress everyone, and I thought because I was really good in the mod, that I had the game on lock. Ultimately some of my feelings and instincts were correct, but I did everything in my power to screw any of that up. I led to mislynches before correctly pointing out that another player was whiteknighting or buddying me in my LW, which led to his correct lynch. Unfortunately in that same LW, I told people to trust his scum partner who I trusted for some reason, which led to mesk lynching an AFK who should have been replaced from the gate (RIP PANDA whereever you be).

    Town lost that game, and Mesk told me i should wear a helmet because I was so retarded. I hunkered down, and "trusted my gut" more and played more FM's (not as much as I could or should) and really learned how to read people and make sense of alignments. etc.. I take some time off between games that I play because I invest all of myself into every game I play. This can be taxing and thus i need extending breaks at times.

    I also got into PARASITE on SC2 Mod and don't really play that anymore. FM Mafia is where it's at for me for now.

    As it s stands rn I have an 85% win-rate overrall, a 100% win-rate as scum (2 games ) and an 81% win-rate as Town. A 33.3% win-rate as TPR.

    I am an open book, would you like to know more?
    THIS IS A WHOLE POST ABOUT HIMSELF AND FLATTERING HIMSELF. CLAIMS HE'S AN OPEN BOOK. HOW FUCKING SCUMMY IS IT FOR YOU TO CLAIM TO SOMEONE HOW GODLIKE YOU ARE AND TALKING SOLELY ABOUT YOURSELF. LONG POSTS DO NOT EQUIVILATE TO SOMEONE BEING TOWN. THIS HOLDS 0 SUBSTANCE


    37. QUOTE=PowersThatBe;704196]Why would I point out to a bunch of NEW players that scum has an advantage in this set up, and perhaps info starving them is the best course of strategy? I don't know? Maybe the same reason I told you and Gyrlander it wasn't smart for me to reveal my true NS find because it lower the POE pool for scum to correctly frame someone and make my ability useless.

    Sometimes, someone has to beat you people over the head with info that should be OBVIOUS but y'all out here giving away the milk w/o buying the cow.

    None of that matters, we'll just have to wait for everyone to catch up.[/QUOTE]

    Flattery and teaching. I've still yet to see any actual viable scum hunting.

    38.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    No but whoever owned the cow sold the milk to the grocery store.

    That'd be like only having a cow or borrowing a cow to get monies for yourself and giving all dat milk away for free. Essentially fuck you.
    using metaphors to act like he knows what he's talking about. METAPHORS don't make you smart!

    39.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    oy vey. You're voting for that person to be lynched.


    You're really splitting hairs here.
    MM disagree with what PTB had to say here, so MM has to be splitting hairs

    40.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Do a google search of OMGUS mafia

    you will anything saying it says OMG U SCUM

    it's all about reaction voting, and it's OMG U SUCK.

    FM is MUCH larger than sc2mafia.com lol
    fluff, making it seem like he knows what he's talking about.

    41.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Nah. Only people who have something to hide do that ^.6
    says the dude who claimed citizen twice but also made a poor attempt to soft claim Mason

    42. can't quote cause it's incorporated in another quote. post #150 is pure teaching MM.

    43.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    What's wrong with my face

    Did you just call me ugly?
    IT'S ALL ABOUT PTB, PTB, PTB. NO SCUM HUNTING, PURE TEACHING

    44.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    I have not played instant mafia.

    However, since it was pitched to me as a game to help newer players scum hunt and really relying on day interactions, I figured that would be my role this game. To help town scum hunt, and hopefully "train" some future sc2mafia FM players.

    And really this came about because I have a 4 day weekend ^.6

    FLATTERY AND MORE FLATTERY OF HIMSELF, THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING NARCISSISTIC IT'S INSANE. HE SAYS HES IN THE GAME TO HELP TOWN SCUM HUNT BUT INSTEAD OF DOING THE SCUM HUNTING HIMSELF HE'S TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO SCUM HUNT!


    45.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    I am overly aggressive. You should see me in bed

    Unless you're under age 18.

    Then get back to me :P
    FLATTERY, PURE FUCKING FLATTERY. that's all he does is flatter himself.

    46.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    I assume this is directed at me.

    Typically for me. What I like to utilize is different types of reaction testing.

    For example. You know SCVmuderer? Well, I got in a very vicious round of back and forth with him, as a means to put his back up against a wall and put myself in the dominant position. I did this in two fold reasons. 1. I wanted to see where he would buckle and where he would fight back. 2. I wanted him to become a viable easy lynch target to the rest of the town to see who would jump on his train asap. I.e. Low hanging fruit. (scum will utilize low hanging fruit to get easy ML's). This was successful a tiny bit because it got him to shut down, (he was scum). And it allowed me to focus on a second thing I utilize from time to time.

    It's a list of 6ish questions. It's called an RQS or RQP (Random Question Survey, or Random Question Phase) in which I ask certain things to gauge different things. Scv actually used it in the last instant mafia game. A couple of the questions are designed to create a psychological break within you. For example the question: "What role/faction do you like to play in mafia?" Some people will answer in a way that attempts to get the reader to see them as town. For example, Nawa that game answered something like "town ofc" which really piqued my interest. He said "ofc" meaning OF COURSE I love being town, because I am town, and you should only read me as town. This little tidbit allowed me to hone in on him, and compare that whole "towny" thing to other aspects of his day one play, which allowed me to successfully lead a lynch on him, and he was SK.

    Also, might I add, we had two trains that day, 1 on sk and 1 on a mafia scum member.

    For me and really for everyone, day 1 is really a good day to see people's personalities. I typically find those who push a lot on day 1 and are super active in asking questions, leading discussion, and pointing out things, typically are town. Those who try to lurk, or only be active for short periods of time, often times turn out to be scum. Now, unfortunately this site has a lurker problem with a lot of the players, and that alignment split with lurkers tends to be off as of late because we have people who join games and are town and just never participate.
    ANOTHER WHOLE FUCKING LONG ASS POST DEDICATED TO HIMSELF! COCKY MOTHER FUCKER OMG

    47.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Lol what is fishy about MM?

    You should defintely "read" the thread

    Is this your first FM game?
    of course, since this is his scum buddy, he's willing to be kind to them.

    48.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    So you know i go by ptb, well at least you read that much... So it's either me or mm you're fishy of, but you're not sure? Interesting.
    HERE HE TELLS NAZ BASICALLY WHO SHES FISHY OF. DOESNT ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, NOTHING. HE TELLS HER!

    49.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    professor sb16 out here giving reading assignments.
    smurkish remark

    50.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Why is it "less likely?"

    Why isn't it possible for Nawa and Blink to be a scum team?
    starts discussing with the town moron why it's unlikely blink and nawa are scum partners. just any attempt to cast shade and sound smart.

    51.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Also, not accusing, I just want to know MM's rationale.
    HE REALLY WANTS TO KNOW MORE INTO MMS TRAIN OF THOUGHT TO USE IT AGAINST HIM

    52. SO. 52 POSTS IN, I COULDN'T STAND IT ANYMORE. 50 SOMETHING ODD POSTS OF NOTHING BUT SELF FLATTER AND COCKYNESS, NOT ONCE DID HE ATTEMPT TO SCUM HUNT. Mind you I didn't either but i was pretty drunk Thursday evening. I did everything a mesk would and went to bed. PTB dedicated his posts to purely training MM, discrediting blink, and literally honking his own horn! I COULD NOT TAKE IT ANYMORE! I AM THE REAL LEADER OF THIS TOWN, IT WAS TIME TO TAKE THE REIGNS OUT OF HIS HANDS! so i poke him. I say exactly what i felt. HE CLAIMED CITIZEN 3 TIMES AND ONLY HARPED OTHER PLAYERS
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    PTB has taken town leader in such an aggro form. For someone who claimed Citizen, there's no actual scum hunting... More harping.


    To claim blink could potentially be scum is quite the scape goat imo, I mean, he's blink, he's a nub, hasn't played a FM yet and throwing shade on the mod players is always the way to go.

    I don't like stealths opening, kinda seemed like he was trying to coach someone into claiming a tpr... hmm
    so he says

    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    I take town leader every game I play. What's curious to me is that you typically sheep me. This game you're trying to put a lot of attention on me...which is weird. Of course I normally sheep PTB, when he's town and not acting like a cocky ass mother fucker. You only see this kind of cockiness when he roles scum and tries to take the reigns in the game. He does that because him being viewed as the town leader as scum really gets him going



    Perhaps, you're not town this game? You haven't really posted anything, and what you have posted is....eh. Not pro-town at all. I am mesk, he knows me way better than this! HE KNOWS I WAS CLAIMING SOME SORT OF TPR, HE WAS JUST WAITING FOR IT TO HAPPEN


    The notion that someone could or couldn't be a certain alignment based on where they came from is ridiculous. no clue what this is supposed to mean?

    I am not accusing anyone of being or not being scum. I'm simply stating that it is POSSIBLE for them to be scum, and let's not just go SHEEPING them.

    A healthy bit of skepticism is not anti town. Sure, a healthy bit of skepticism, but over 25 of his first posts were pure flattery and belittling of blink and coaching MM. that's not skepticism, thats ulterior motives

    Wha'ts anti town is coming in here pointing fingers and disappearing. I make one post with all of like 6 lines and all the sudden I'm pointing fingers. SHADE AF

    Mesk if you're so prooooo town whats your role then?DO YOU NOT SEE THE BAIT? FOR SOMEONE WHO SAID I WAS HARDCORE SOFT CLAIMING I WAS MAYOR, HE REALLY WANTED ME TO SAY WHAT I WAS SO HE COULD COME OUT AND CC IT! EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED SINCE POST 2 (QUOTE 1)
    53.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    BULLSHIT.

    I'm mason and I have a teammate.
    Oh really? i thought you claimed Citizen 3 times buddy! SUCH BULLSHIT!

    54.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    #citizenbait2k17 worked.
    uh, no.

    55.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Exactly, but I know I have a teammate.

    So your role card said you're a solo mason?

    You run this section and you reasonably expect all of us to believe that you'd hire someone who would have such an imbalanced/fucked set up to have a SOLO mason in the game without any night action or ability to recruit a citizen? So why not make that solo mason a citizen? Why not claim citizen? I happened to hire someone who've I've been close friends with for over a year and a half now, almost 2 years. He loves to watch me struggle, cause he knows I would have to put effort into this if i want to win. He purposely put 1 mason so scum could CC it. I hired a smart conniving fuck. He asked me not to stab him after game. and I did claim citizen. I also claimed glorified.

    Exactly, because you don't wanna give up your teammate and seem more like a scum duo.

    I'm Mason 1 in our private chat. My teammate is Mason 2. Anyone who's played a game in which Iced has hosted, knows he will not ask you to name yourself QT. There is no asking what to name yourself in a Mason chat. anyone who is willing to believe this needs to get their brain checked.

    We can reveal to each other in day chat, but not in our private chat. You're allowed to openly claim because you're scum. Iced didn't apply what I made a rule in my version BECAUSE THERES NO NEED GIVEN THERES ONLY ONE MASON. BY DOING SO, IT WOULD IMMEDIATELY SHOW THAT THE SCUM WHO CC THE MASON ARE SCUM!



    Nice try mesk. fuck you
    57.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Mason: They share an active private chat but are not host confirmed to etchother
    Congrats, he can c&p who the role is. That's obviously not what's in his role card so this is just a fluffy ass post.

    58.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    hence MASON 1 and MASON 2.

    I told my teammate I was gonna reveal in day chat.


    Thats why I asked if there could be sheriff and citi and masons. Seems like theres no mayor.
    Again, there's no mason 1 and mason 2. OF COURSE THERES POTENTIALLY A SHERIFF AND CITI AND MAYOR. HE WAS SCOPING OUT THE PLAYING FEILD

    59.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Host never said we couldn't claim openly, and as I remember, you hosted last game but you're not host this game.

    Different hosts = different rules.
    NO, he took this rule out given it doesn't apply to this game given there's only 1 mason. 2 MASONS AND A SHERIFF WITH A CONFIRMED CITIZEN. 4 CONFIRMED ROLES IS WAAY TO OVERPOWERED

    60.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    LOL so they put 1 mason in to "cc" mason claims, but yet all of a sudden you can claim but no one could claim before? But i did claim it before, so your point is absolutely invalid.

    Host confirmed means host does not send us our teammates in a pm therefore completely confirming.

    We're also not allowed to ask each other's names in the private chat.

    We can do it in day chat from my understanding your understanding is wrong given if there was really two masons you wouldn't be allowed to attempt to confirm yourselves at all.
    61.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    it was in our pm instructions.

    I was told i was mason 1 and to use Mason 1 as my name.

    Try again. Liar.

    Well, gg we have our fucking scum boys and girls
    iced gave you no instructions. No one got instructions. they got their role and a link to the game. thats it. shut it.

    62.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    So you're pushing the "I hosted a set up like this so everyone should trust me." Play. Wow that's kinda sad mesk. weak as fuck point to push me. weak attempt to make me look bad. and it wasn't what i was implying at all. What i was trying to point out was the fact that 2 masons being able to confirm themselves PLUS a sheriff claim IS WAY TOOO FUCKING OVER POWERED. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

    So you expect everyone to believe that a solo mason was put into game, and it's to CC mason claims, but yet, people would have to know they couldn't claim mason so why would anyone do that? A TOWN ISNT SUPPOSED TO CC THE CLAIM, PTB HERE MAKES IT SEEM LIKE I WAS PULLING THINGS OUT OF MY ASS. THE PURPOSE OF SOLO MASON IS EXACTLY THIS. NO ONE FUCKING BELIEVES IT. LOL

    Once again, we're not host confirmed, meaning I never got a pm stating who my teammate was.


    It was never stated in pm or in our private chat that were are not allowed to reveal in day chat.

    ICY is his own man. No where in the set up does it say or in ANY RULES anywhere that masons CANNOT reveal during day chat. that's cause theres only a scum chat lol

    girl bye. boy bye with your cocky ass attitude.
    63.
    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    claiming town leader then posting nothing and leaving is not claiming solo mason LOL, are you fucked in the head?
    he acts like i never claimed citizen nor that i ever stated i was glorified.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  44. ISO #494

    Re: S-FM Instant Mafia IV

    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  45. ISO #495

    Re: S-FM Instant Mafia IV

    For someone who literally has 186 posts (top poster in game) he's done absolutely nothing but use weak reasoning as to why I am scum and he's more superior lol.

    Most (if not all) his posts have 0 substance other than flattery and trying to coach someone how to play. ALL FLUFF
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  46. ISO #496

    Re: S-FM Instant Mafia IV

    @Nawa , i see you online... before i get back to iso'ing the fuck outta this dude... wanna chat?
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  47. ISO #497

    Re: S-FM Instant Mafia IV

    Quote Originally Posted by Nawa View Post
    This is forbidden.

    This is forbidden, right?
    I assume you have read my post regarding the masons, as they have been a hotly debated topic. Hypothetically, the following would remain true for any and all possibilities in this setup.

    Masons cannot confirm their names (or otherwise directly indicate, ie 'I wrote post 100') in a private chat.
    Any confirmation they want to make must be done through the day chat.
    In the scenario you have quoted, such a request would not violate rules.


    Monopoly of the Iced variety

  48. ISO #498

  49. ISO #499

    Re: S-FM Instant Mafia IV

    my b, i wasn't really paying attention.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

  50. ISO #500

 

 

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