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  1. ISO #501
    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    It is literally impossible for there to be 4 citizens, and I doubt that both scum would claim Citizen. It would leave both of them under suspicion. Unless one of them was to convince us to lynch one of the Citizen claims. By the way, if we mislynch today, we lose.

  2. ISO #502
    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    In that case,
    -vote Marshmallow Marshall
    .

  3. ISO #503

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Possibility A:
    Magoroth - Citizen
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Escort/MassMurderer
    MM - Union Leader
    (If Noz is MM, still a consort out there among Ozy/Distorted)

    Possibility B:
    Magoroth - Godfather
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Citizen
    MM - Union Leader
    (Still a consort out there among Ozy/Distorted)

    Possibility C:
    Magoroth - Godfather
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Escort
    MM - Union Leader

    Possibility D:
    Magoroth - Godfather
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Citizen
    MM - Arsonist

  4. ISO #504
    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Given how rapidly Ozy has been changing his stance on things, it doesn’t seem like you have a hidden agenda. For that reason, +999. You realize Blink read me as Scum, right? Blink’s untimely demise does not leave me, Marshmallow, or you in a good light... I will check the posts again, but I am fairly sure Blink changed his stance on a certain player between a post and his last will. That man is the only one who could have something to gain from his death, and is, in my eyes, almost certainly scum.

  5. ISO #505

  6. ISO #506

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Love View Post
    Possibility A:
    Magoroth - Citizen
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Escort/MassMurderer
    MM - Union Leader
    (If Noz is MM, still a consort out there among Ozy/Distorted)

    Possibility B:
    Magoroth - Godfather
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Citizen
    MM - Union Leader
    (Still a consort out there among Ozy/Distorted)

    Possibility C:
    Magoroth - Godfather
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Escort
    MM - Union Leader

    Possibility D:
    Magoroth - Godfather
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Citizen
    MM - Arsonist
    Possibility E:
    Magoroth - Citizen
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Godfather/Mass Murderer
    MM - Union Leader
    (Still a consort out there among Ozy/Distorted)

  7. ISO #507

  8. ISO #508
    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    G’mornin’, Distorted.

  9. ISO #509

  10. ISO #510
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    I will only trust Marshmallow’s claim if he recruits me.

  11. ISO #511

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    @Distorted without revealing your TPR role, are you able to tell us anything that is helpful to the town? I suppose you not revealing likely means you're soft-claiming to be some kind of protective role. I'd be interested in who you visited the previous night - paritcularly, if you visited blink that would mean that we are dealing with a godfather and not a mass murderer.

  12. ISO #512

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    The likelihood that there are two underectable Witches is lower than the probability that there are 2 killing roles (about 2-4% if memory serves), so at least one of the Witches is detectable. The likelihood that Ozy had the misfortune of checking the undetectable Rational Arcanist is 20%; the likelihood I am a town role is 80%.
    True. You're just not confirmed, and that's what people were saying. Plus, your ACTIONS were scummy.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  13. ISO #513

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Interesting you ask Oyz to remove his vote from Noz but you keep yours on MM. and you also stated multiple times that we have plenty of time and not to lynch. Possible you are removing attention from Noz, or BRINING attention to the idea you are voting MM (thus trying to make it seem like u 2 cannot be a team) your vote is obviously without intention to lynch.

  14. ISO #514
    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    So, that leaves either Distorted/Marshmallow and Soviet/Noz as scum. 50/50. Not good enough.

  15. ISO #515
    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Yeah, it’s a countervote, so to speak. The idea being that 2 votes on a single player are a dangerous business, while 2 votes on two different players aren’t.

  16. ISO #516
    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Is a dangerous business*, by the way.

  17. ISO #517

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Sheriff is also the most easily faked role from an evil. A Witch would know what literally every single person in this games feedback would be.
    and a Mason Leader claim...easiest 1 to confirm yet claimed RBed. That just reminds me how I claim bus driver every time im evil pretty much because it is so easy to confirm most people inno it so i can get another night - that Mason claim sounds very similar.

  18. ISO #518

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Dissecting Distorted's role if he is telling the truth:

    Possibilities: (1) sheriff, (2) vig, (3) detective, (4) mason leader, (5) escort, (6) mason, (7) doctor, ( jailor, (9) bg, (10) architect, (11) crier.

    There is no way he's a mason leader or mason. If so, he would aboslutely have followed MM's claim by either saying MM is lying or saying MM is telling the truth.

    (1) sheriff, (2) vig, (3) detective, (4) escort, (5) doctor, (6) jailor, (7) bg, ( architect, (9) crier.

    Crier didn't reveal, distorted knows how to play, he isn't crier.

    (1) sheriff, (2) vig, (3) detective, (4) escort, (5) doctor, (6) jailor, (7) bg, ( architect

    Nobody has claimed to be jailed, jailor would have claimed. Especially because this impacts whether we lynch or not.

    (1) sheriff, (2) vig, (3) detective, (4) escort, (5) doctor, (6) bg, (7) architect

    Nobody has claimed to have been given a private night chat. The "escort/consort" blocked MM which means that the action of giving this chat wouldn't be blocked and would have occurred. Because of this, I don't think he's claiming architect.

    (1) sheriff, (2) vig, (3) detective, (4) escort, (5) doctor, (6) bg

    Of these 6, we have 3 protective roles (escort, doctor, bg), 2 invest roles (sheriff, detective) and 1 killing role.

    If Distorted wanted to help town, there's no reason that an invest role wouldn't reveal whether he got someone as not suspicious or not. That would be bad play to not reveal. Ozy revealed that Magoroth was not suspicious and it has been helpful to town.

    (1) vig, (2) escort, (3) doctor, (4) bg

    All of these roles make sense to keep them quit. @Distorted I understand why you aren't revealing if you are soft-claiming one of these 4. Nevertheless, if you are escort and you targeted MM that would be really fucking helpful to know.

    Because of this, and nobody other than MM has claimed to have been roleblocked, I think you are:

    (1) vig (2) doctor (3) bg.

    Did I do good?

  19. ISO #519

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    I see not much has happened in the last ~10 hours.
    I guess I will say where I stand with things since I see nothing else to talk yet.

    @Magoroth
    Considering everything being random: 40% chance I hit a scum and 25% of that 40% that the scum was GF. Additional 2.2% chanced that I was witched. It's only 12.2% chance that Mag is a scum.
    I am not going to complicate my life on a 12.2% chance. Mag stays confirmed townie in my eyes.
    However, Mag is not very helpful for town in comparison to Soviet or Distorted.

    @Soviet_Love
    If Soviet is a scum - he deserves this win. I am not complicating things on the off chance that Soviet might be a scum.I don't think anyone could possibly think that he is not a townie.

    If anyone besides Mag and Soviet claims citizen - I vote him up.


    @Noz_Bugz
    If this was SC2Maf and he was a townie: I would consider his playstyle (Not even claiming when so close to being lynched) a gamethrow. Which is why I have this idea, that perhaps the host would have replaced him if he was a townie?

    @Marshmallow Marshall and @Distorted
    Well, Distorted has definitely posted more useful information and ideas. However, him not claiming 12 hours ago when he was here after my post - that makes him a little bit suspicious. He mentioned he has a bbq, but if he had time to post then he had time to claim.
    MM - I don’t think he has posted much in the way of useful information or ideas for town, while having the most posts of all. He helps players and posts some general questions that town needs to think about. But to me - that’s not enough to not be suspicious. Distorted and Soviet are trying to move town forward, at least I can FEEL their involvement. Can’t say the same about MM.
    ---
    Should we lynch today?
    I think that our best play is to abstain again, however - I can’t see much reason not to lynch Noz.
    We need 4 votes to lynch and as active as we are - I honestly do think we might not get those 4 votes if we decided to lynch.

    When we lynch?
    In 20 hours.

    Whom we lynch?
    Noz or MM.

    Judge discussion? Nah - no Judge yet so no Judge ever.
    Would no kill Night 2 prove that the killer was MM and therefore Mag is confirmed as not GF? Yes, because if we lynch evil today and no kill at night, we would not be at MyLo, which is bad for Scums.

    Don’t know what else to say.
    Hurry up people. Start to claim roles! Prolonging it only makes you more suspicious.
    The reason not to lynch Noz is that we don't have enough information to do so. Your argument about host replace is invalid. Hosts replace for inactivity, planned or not. You MUST post. Scum or town. Now, look at the fucking post count. Who's the top poster? Why are you saying I am being apathic? How can you not see my involvment? I restarted the discussion on rolecall, and pushed it to be done. So if you want to lynch me today at MYLO, you're stupid.

    Now, about Judge, there is probably no Judge, indeed.

    You don't know what else to say because you already said everything? Then, following your logic, you're scum.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  20. ISO #520
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    Sheriff is also the most easily faked role from an evil. A Witch would know what literally every single person in this games feedback would be.
    and a Mason Leader claim...easiest 1 to confirm yet claimed RBed. That just reminds me how I claim bus driver every time im evil pretty much because it is so easy to confirm most people inno it so i can get another night - that Mason claim sounds very similar.
    +1
    I would trust your claim over MM’s.

  21. ISO #521

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Love View Post
    Dissecting Distorted's role if he is telling the truth:

    Possibilities: (1) sheriff, (2) vig, (3) detective, (4) mason leader, (5) escort, (6) mason, (7) doctor, ( jailor, (9) bg, (10) architect, (11) crier.

    There is no way he's a mason leader or mason. If so, he would aboslutely have followed MM's claim by either saying MM is lying or saying MM is telling the truth.

    (1) sheriff, (2) vig, (3) detective, (4) escort, (5) doctor, (6) jailor, (7) bg, ( architect, (9) crier.

    Crier didn't reveal, distorted knows how to play, he isn't crier.

    (1) sheriff, (2) vig, (3) detective, (4) escort, (5) doctor, (6) jailor, (7) bg, ( architect

    Nobody has claimed to be jailed, jailor would have claimed. Especially because this impacts whether we lynch or not.

    (1) sheriff, (2) vig, (3) detective, (4) escort, (5) doctor, (6) bg, (7) architect

    Nobody has claimed to have been given a private night chat. The "escort/consort" blocked MM which means that the action of giving this chat wouldn't be blocked and would have occurred. Because of this, I don't think he's claiming architect.

    (1) sheriff, (2) vig, (3) detective, (4) escort, (5) doctor, (6) bg

    Of these 6, we have 3 protective roles (escort, doctor, bg), 2 invest roles (sheriff, detective) and 1 killing role.

    If Distorted wanted to help town, there's no reason that an invest role wouldn't reveal whether he got someone as not suspicious or not. That would be bad play to not reveal. Ozy revealed that Magoroth was not suspicious and it has been helpful to town.

    (1) vig, (2) escort, (3) doctor, (4) bg

    All of these roles make sense to keep them quit. @Distorted I understand why you aren't revealing if you are soft-claiming one of these 4. Nevertheless, if you are escort and you targeted MM that would be really fucking helpful to know.

    Because of this, and nobody other than MM has claimed to have been roleblocked, I think you are:

    (1) vig (2) doctor (3) bg.

    Did I do good?
    haha yes, impressed how fast you pulled that together tbh

  22. ISO #522

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    So, that leaves either Distorted/Marshmallow and Soviet/Noz as scum. 50/50. Not good enough.
    Ok, I don't know how you came to that shit, but it's BULLshit. How can Soviet be scum... with Noz? Why? And Distorted seems town.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  23. ISO #523

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    Sheriff is also the most easily faked role from an evil. A Witch would know what literally every single person in this games feedback would be.
    and a Mason Leader claim...easiest 1 to confirm yet claimed RBed. That just reminds me how I claim bus driver every time im evil pretty much because it is so easy to confirm most people inno it so i can get another night - that Mason claim sounds very similar.
    My original thought when MM claimed Union/Mason Leader was also that that is an interesting claim and I would want to give him another night to prove (after he was roleblocked) and that this would be a good claim for a scum. That's why I keep bringing up the possibility that we may not have an escort/consort and that he is actually an Arson or something and has someone doused.

  24. ISO #524
    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    I meant that in either of those two groups there is a scum.

  25. ISO #525
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Both**** not either

  26. ISO #526

  27. ISO #527

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Noz_Bugz View Post
    ahh just caught up. I'm a citizen. Was thinking but didn't get to this post D1 a judge if the scum had one would call to force a misslynch on me. (I may or may not have been playing board games last night)
    [pre-vote]Noz_Bugz[/pre-vote] Just so you don't get at L-2... I mean, I know you can be busy (not board games come on), but you could still show up? Host posted more than you.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  28. ISO #528
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Yeah, but I excluded those I believed to be town.

  29. ISO #529

  30. ISO #530
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Distorted, give us your stance on things. I’d like to hear what you think about the situation.

  31. ISO #531

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Love View Post
    Citizen Magoroth
    Citizen Soviet_Love
    Citizen Noz_Bugz
    TPR Marshmallow Marshall, union leader
    TPR OzyWho, sheriff
    Citizen Blinkskater (dead)
    Killing witch
    Unknown witch

    (1) There are too many citizen claims.
    (2) @Distorted has not claimed a role.
    So. I see SL as a nearly confirmed citizen. It narrows the lynch pool to Noz and Mag. I feel like it's too hard to determinate who's what in this. Should we go lynch in the TPRs? And no, lynching me is a bad idea x.x
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  32. ISO #532

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Love View Post
    (1) godfather/mass murderer witch
    (2) unknown witch, possibly consort

    Group 1:
    Soviet_Love: Citizen
    Noz_Bugz: Citizen
    Magoroth: Citizen

    Group 2:
    Distorted: TPR (vig/dog/bg)
    MM: TPR (union leader)
    OzyWho: TPR (sheriff)

    In each set, we have 1 scum and 2 town.
    Links between the groups:

    1. Ozy claims to have invested magoroth and received a not suspicious verdict. (Possible flaws - godfather invest and ozy telling the truth, or both are scum and there was no invest. This is a bold strategy and I don't think scums would be so public about investing each other - but who knows).
    2. MM claims to have visited blink and was blocked.
    3. Distorted has not claimed what his n1 action is, but we can assume he did not visit blink because this would be valuable information. Therefore, we don't know if distorted visited someone in group 1 or group 2.

  33. ISO #533
    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    ‘Narrows the lynch to Noz and Mag?’ One of you TPRs is lying.

  34. ISO #534

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    I find something very fishy. If Marshmallow is Scum, then who is the real second TPR?
    Distorted is probably a real TPR. And I'm the second, silly... That's why Ozy gets in a weird position. He's "Schrödinger's scum", aka both town and scum in the same posts. He's terribly confusing atm...
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  35. ISO #535

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    ‘Narrows the lynch to Noz and Mag?’ One of you TPRs is lying.
    True. I said that the TPRs were harder to find (BECAUSE I'M NOT SCUM YOU !"/$"$") and because Soviet is confirmed 99% for me.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  36. ISO #536

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    In that case,
    -vote Marshmallow Marshall
    .
    Reason? In which case?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  37. ISO #537

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Soviet_Love View Post
    Possibility A:
    Magoroth - Citizen
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Escort/MassMurderer
    MM - Union Leader
    (If Noz is MM, still a consort out there among Ozy/Distorted)

    Possibility B:
    Magoroth - Godfather
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Citizen
    MM - Union Leader
    (Still a consort out there among Ozy/Distorted)

    Possibility C:
    Magoroth - Godfather
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Escort
    MM - Union Leader

    Possibility D:
    Magoroth - Godfather
    Soviet_Love - Citizen
    Noz_Bugz - Citizen
    MM - Arsonist
    I feel like B is true or near of being true.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  38. ISO #538

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    Given how rapidly Ozy has been changing his stance on things, it doesn’t seem like you have a hidden agenda. For that reason, +999. You realize Blink read me as Scum, right? Blink’s untimely demise does not leave me, Marshmallow, or you in a good light... I will check the posts again, but I am fairly sure Blink changed his stance on a certain player between a post and his last will. That man is the only one who could have something to gain from his death, and is, in my eyes, almost certainly scum.
    Sorry, but who are you talking to? I don't get it o.o
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  39. ISO #539

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Btw Distorted, just to confirm: are you Escort RBing me last night? It'd be nice to know... lol
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  40. ISO #540
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Let’s assume, for a moment, that I am Scum and that MM is a townie - the Mason Leader. I have not played Forum Mafia before, so I have little information to go on about Marshmallow’s skill and meta. Were I witch I would’ve roleblocked Distorted, because I know that if he is a TPR, I, as a Witch, am screwed if he gets to use his night action.

  41. ISO #541

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    Sheriff is also the most easily faked role from an evil. A Witch would know what literally every single person in this games feedback would be.
    and a Mason Leader claim...easiest 1 to confirm yet claimed RBed. That just reminds me how I claim bus driver every time im evil pretty much because it is so easy to confirm most people inno it so i can get another night - that Mason claim sounds very similar.
    Omg I want to try that on the mod XD usually I prefer taking the "confirmed" townie position. Also, I didn't think about that: witches know everyone's feedback for Sheriff.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  42. ISO #542

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    So. I see SL as a nearly confirmed citizen. It narrows the lynch pool to Noz and Mag. I feel like it's too hard to determinate who's what in this. Should we go lynch in the TPRs? And no, lynching me is a bad idea x.x
    why not me you or ozy?


    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    Distorted, give us your stance on things. I’d like to hear what you think about the situation.
    I am still having a problem shaking the MM feeling due to how passively he is playing compared to other games. and @Marshmallow Marshall in the post where i said that i stated it had nothing to do with you being more or less active. It is the posts are not "pushing" as hard as you usually do. Usually you are holding a knife to ppls throats getting info - this time you are passively stating information. (has NOTHING to do with you not showing up before end of day, it's not like you were even gone 12 hours, so i don't see that as something that matters at all).

    However, Ozy claiming sheriff I think is a high chance for a "buddying" tactic. Ozy views you @Magoroth as 1 of the strongest players in the mod, he says it all the time. So the first thing he would try to do as a scum is get you on his side. Sheriff is such an easy claim for a Witch due to knowing every single claim already, and can "confirm" himself with his strongest town read. Notice how you have completely stopped accusing him since that reveal?

    Soviet_Love is doing the math thing, and kind of guiding the town - if he was evil they have 1 of those small % scenarios, because he keeps steering towards the higher probabilities. So using math could be a very easy way to WIFOM if you are sitting at a scenario that has a 2% chance of rolling.

    Noz_Bugz I would be fine with the lynch because honestly I can't stand AFKs in these...why sign up? But every single person here wants to lynch him, it really seems like he is being scapegoated because the pushes on him are not pressure, they are ALL with intent to lynch. Seems like far too easy of a lynch for scum to push, just not comfortable with it. I feel like it would just be complete gambling. Also, Noz played exactly like this last game AS FKING CRIER - literally said 1 word at the beginning of N1: "maybe noz is busy IRL", and vanished for literally 5 days. he was Crier.....

    Magoroth I am having a hard time fulling trusting, even if Ozy was 100% confirmed I would be skeptical.

  43. ISO #543

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    Let’s assume, for a moment, that I am Scum and that MM is a townie - the Mason Leader. I have not played Forum Mafia before, so I have little information to go on about Marshmallow’s skill and meta. Were I witch I would’ve roleblocked Distorted, because I know that if he is a TPR, I, as a Witch, am screwed if he gets to use his night action.
    Uh? Why is that?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  44. ISO #544

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Out of class. I have around 40 minutes. all in all here is my shit ass reads

    TOWN: Soviet,MM(If he can prove himself)
    Mid Town: cherp...cherp...
    soft town: Ozy, Distorted
    Null Everyone who isn't on this list
    Soft Scum:Magaroth(puts a pressure vote on someone and asks someone else to remove their pressure vote...THE FUCKK)
    Mid Scum:MM(If he can't prove himself)
    100% Scum: cherp...cherp...
    "I don't take advice from people less successful than me"
    ~Kanye West

  45. ISO #545
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Btw, OOC (out of character; not related to the game) here but here it goes: ‘to take with a grain of salt’ is to be wary about putting too much faith in something, usually referring to a statement or an idea.

  46. ISO #546

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    why not me you or ozy?




    I am still having a problem shaking the MM feeling due to how passively he is playing compared to other games. and @Marshmallow Marshall in the post where i said that i stated it had nothing to do with you being more or less active. It is the posts are not "pushing" as hard as you usually do. Usually you are holding a knife to ppls throats getting info - this time you are passively stating information. (has NOTHING to do with you not showing up before end of day, it's not like you were even gone 12 hours, so i don't see that as something that matters at all).

    However, Ozy claiming sheriff I think is a high chance for a "buddying" tactic. Ozy views you @Magoroth as 1 of the strongest players in the mod, he says it all the time. So the first thing he would try to do as a scum is get you on his side. Sheriff is such an easy claim for a Witch due to knowing every single claim already, and can "confirm" himself with his strongest town read. Notice how you have completely stopped accusing him since that reveal?

    Soviet_Love is doing the math thing, and kind of guiding the town - if he was evil they have 1 of those small % scenarios, because he keeps steering towards the higher probabilities. So using math could be a very easy way to WIFOM if you are sitting at a scenario that has a 2% chance of rolling.

    Noz_Bugz I would be fine with the lynch because honestly I can't stand AFKs in these...why sign up? But every single person here wants to lynch him, it really seems like he is being scapegoated because the pushes on him are not pressure, they are ALL with intent to lynch. Seems like far too easy of a lynch for scum to push, just not comfortable with it. I feel like it would just be complete gambling. Also, Noz played exactly like this last game AS FKING CRIER - literally said 1 word at the beginning of N1: "maybe noz is busy IRL", and vanished for literally 5 days. he was Crier.....

    Magoroth I am having a hard time fulling trusting, even if Ozy was 100% confirmed I would be skeptical.
    Oh, the knife under throat.... It's all the setup's fault lol. I can't pressure anyone with votes and mentions and (just a little bit) light insults, because anyone can get turbolynched. Plus, we got two noobs and an AFK.

    Also yes, if I had time I'd make an ISO of magoroth. I will try to do that today. He indeed has stopped the accusations against ozy.

    Noz is the too easy lynch, and it really makes me think about Suntax of the season's last game. Everyone is ok with his lynch. @Noz_Bugz If you don't want to play don't sign up. If I was to host a game in the future and had to play with you with the same behavior, you'd not play.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  47. ISO #547

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    Btw, OOC (out of character; not related to the game) here but here it goes: ‘to take with a grain of salt’ is to be wary about putting too much faith in something, usually referring to a statement or an idea.
    Yes I know what it means ^^ I just thought it was unique to French. Like, crocodile tears is a very common saying apparently, in 50 languages... Poor crocodiles.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  48. ISO #548
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Don’t put words in my mouth; I never said it was a pressure vote. I stated, if anything, that it was not
    a pressure vote, but a balance vote, one meant to counteract Ozy’s vote on Noz.

  49. ISO #549

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Noz_Bugz View Post
    Out of class. I have around 40 minutes. all in all here is my shit ass reads

    TOWN: Soviet,MM(If he can prove himself)
    Mid Town: cherp...cherp...
    soft town: Ozy, Distorted
    Null Everyone who isn't on this list
    Soft Scum:Magaroth(puts a pressure vote on someone and asks someone else to remove their pressure vote...THE FUCKK)
    Mid Scum:MM(If he can't prove himself)
    100% Scum: cherp...cherp...
    That's a good start. I think you've got reading to do ^^
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  50. ISO #550

    Re: S-FM 245 Which Witch is Which? - GYRLANDER -

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    Don’t put words in my mouth; I never said it was a pressure vote. I stated, if anything, that it was not
    a pressure vote, but a balance vote, one meant to counteract Ozy’s vote on Noz.
    What's the goal of a "balance vote"? How does it benefit Town???
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

 

 

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