S-FM 240: Instant Mafia IV

[Mesk514]

Why are you getting so angry? This is a game of liars. I'm not going to assume you're telling the truth just cus you say so. If you want people to believe everything you say without question then you're playing the wrong game. You need to be able to respond to scrutiny without blowing up like that.

Your argument against not being confirmed as mason amounts to arguing that you wouldn't think to take the responsible steps anyone would take in order to create an ideal claiming circumstance. You're an experienced mafia player so I'm not going to disrespect you by assuming you don't know how to back up a lie.

his whole play is based on him being town leader. ffs.

[PowersThatBe]

Why are you getting so angry? This is a game of liars. I'm not going to assume you're telling the truth just cus you say so. If you want people to believe everything you say without question then you're playing the wrong game. You need to be able to respond to scrutiny without blowing up like that.

Your argument against not being confirmed as mason amounts to arguing that you wouldn't think to take the responsible steps anyone would take in order to create an ideal claiming circumstance. You're an experienced mafia player so I'm not going to disrespect you by assuming you don't know how to back up a lie.

A family friend just had a heart attack and my sister and brother in law are on the way to the hospital. I’m saying if you call me a liar about that you can fuck off.

[Mesk514]

Ds so i can see new contributions eadier

??? but m8

[Mesk514]

A family friend just had a heart attack and my sister and brother in law are on the way to the hospital. I’m saying if you call me a liar about that you can fuck off.

news flash, you've been a liar the whole game and you're getting away with it at the expense of two particular morons. (yes i added stealth to that category cause his thought process is way out of whack here, maybe spruance should have stayed)

[Nawa]

??? but m8

I am on phone. I update the page, but it puts me on top. So i wrote a message to get put to it.

[PowersThatBe]

news flash, you've been a liar the whole game and you're getting away with it at the expense of two particular morons. (yes i added stealth to that category cause his thought process is way out of whack here, maybe spruance should have stayed)

You’re absolutely vile..

[Mesk514]

AA, i don't get why you're even giving ptb the time of day when of course we're scum together. He's suggesting we're scum together but still trying to buy your vote. how does that make sense?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Im going to put this here for now, because theres a good chance il be afk when the timer actually counts down.

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DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS

I dont know where that extra hour came from, and it wont go away.. So ignore it, or just reference the opening post timer.
5 votes to hammer.

I swear to fucking god, if anyone hammers before that timer is down, I will personally terminate them.

[PowersThatBe]

@Aardvarks Bark

I meant because i'm not going to be able to respond to all the quotes mesk used because I have to use mobile now. That's why I'm saying don't call me a liar about claiming a family emergency. I wouldn't lie about that.


And I think it's sad people are using that against me now to explain how I am "angry"

[PowersThatBe]

Im going to put this here for now, because theres a good chance il be afk when the timer actually counts down.

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5 votes to hammer.

I swear to fucking god, if anyone hammers before that timer is down, I will personally terminate them.

This is wrong it's actually 27 minutes.

[Mesk514]

This is wrong it's actually 27 minutes.

can you not read?

[PowersThatBe]

i'm gonna take a little break. I'm letting a personal issue get in the way here.

Lynch me if you must.

[PowersThatBe]

can you not read?

clearly not, as I said, I'm on mobile and watching 3 dogs.

[Mesk514]

I am on phone. I update the page, but it puts me on top. So i wrote a message to get put to it.

ah okay

[Nawa]

If you wonder, i am standing in a neutral position right now. I reread everything and stopped worrying about "floated"(раздутый) claims.

While naz ptb have reason to cooperate, artwork and mesk don't have one. But, they don't cooperate.

[Aardvarks Bark]

No I’m saying if I were mafia I wouldn’t fake claim a mason claim. A solo claim at that. I would cc a sheriff and citizen claim that are linked and push for that lynch.

This is not the path I would have taken.

That's not a good argument. It's circular logic. Mafiosa do things they "wouldn't do as mafia" all the time. It's literally the basis of the game.

Yeah I totally do that... Blink is kinda confirmed as is Nawa. Mesk is scum. Aardvarks is scum. Gg. Blink, Nawa, we need you to vote Mesk to stop this shit show of a SOLO MASON. Like, seriously. Masons have no convert in this setup. Solo mason = citizen. There can't be two mason teams. Aardvarks is scum. Naz confirmed the private chat between himself and PTB. There are two scums. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE A SCUM PTB.

You complained before that I wasn't playing the game and just complaining about roleclaiming meta. Well this is what the game is Marsh. We have two potential liars, determining which one of them is lying with the most certainty possible *is* the game right now. You can't complain about it being a 3 person game and then get upset when i decide to take things seriously.

[Mesk514]

You complained before that I wasn't playing the game and just complaining about roleclaiming meta. Well this is what the game is Marsh. We have two potential liars, determining which one of them is lying with the most certainty possible *is* the game right now. You can't complain about it being a 3 person game and then get upset when i decide to take things seriously.

of course he can, he is Marsh, he is excellent at this game

[Aardvarks Bark]

news flash, you've been a liar the whole game and you're getting away with it at the expense of two particular morons. (yes i added stealth to that category cause his thought process is way out of whack here, maybe spruance should have stayed)

Hey, that's actually really fucked up Mesk.

[PowersThatBe]

That's not a good argument. It's circular logic. Mafiosa do things they "wouldn't do as mafia" all the time. It's literally the basis of the game.



You complained before that I wasn't playing the game and just complaining about roleclaiming meta. Well this is what the game is Marsh. We have two potential liars, determining which one of them is lying with the most certainty possible *is* the game right now. You can't complain about it being a 3 person game and then get upset when i decide to take things seriously.

Well it’s clear when you stand. Everything I say is wrong lol. You’ve never played with me before. Go read ??? Or lady Gaga if you wanna see my scum play.

Other than that I’m not gonna keep going around and around with you.

As I said, honestly, I wouldn’t fake a mason claim.

I think you know this already.

[PowersThatBe]

Hey, that's actually really fucked up Mesk.

Sincerely, thank you.

[Mesk514]

Hey, that's actually really fucked up Mesk.

no whats fucked up is ptb trying to convincing you to vote with him, while he's claiming we're scum together, that's fucked up.

[Mesk514]

if you can't see his play is fully praying on the weak town people. i don't know what else to say.

[Mesk514]

that's literally how cocky ptb is and i commend him for being able to play the audience so well.

[PowersThatBe]

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no whats fucked up is ptb trying to convincing you to vote with him, while he's claiming we're scum together, that's fucked up.

You’re dead to me

[Nawa]

No I’m saying if I were mafia I wouldn’t fake claim a mason claim. A solo claim at that. I would cc a sheriff and citizen claim that are linked and push for that lynch.

This is not the path I would have taken.

Thats what you were going to do

[PowersThatBe]

Thats what you were going to do

If I was going to do it, I would have immediately

[Mesk514]

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You’re dead to me

fuck man, i everything is directed towards how you're playing and the way you play, not yourself. I am truly sorry for your loss.

[Nawa]

A family friend just had a heart attack and my sister and brother in law are on the way to the hospital. I’m saying if you call me a liar about that you can fuck off.

Condolences to you (Соболезную/сочувствую тебе)

[Aardvarks Bark]

AA, i don't get why you're even giving ptb the time of day when of course we're scum together. He's suggesting we're scum together but still trying to buy your vote. how does that make sense?

Mesk.

Don't mistake my interrogation of PtB as support for you.

I've been questioning him to be as diligent and thorough as possible and because its because it's boring and dangerous to go with the obvious choice. No one else seemed willing to exhaust all possibilities so I decided to do it.

Occam's razor would still point to you being a wolf with an overly ambitious plan that backfired tremendously. You've been scummy as hell. Your joking about us being wolves together doesn't exactly help that either.

[blinkskater]

If I was going to do it, I would have immediately

Doubt it as you were probablly still weighing your options

[Nawa]

If I was going to do it, I would have immediately

Who knows.

[Aardvarks Bark]

no whats fucked up is ptb trying to convincing you to vote with him, while he's claiming we're scum together, that's fucked up.

Personal attacks are gross and not in the spirit of mafia

[PowersThatBe]

Doubt it as you were probablly still weighing your options

Could be. But the longer You wait the less likely the claim would have been. If I were scum I would have immediately called you and nawa scum.

I know you won’t believe and there’s literally nothing at this point to change a belief you’ve had since page one

[Mesk514]

Mesk.

Don't mistake my interrogation of PtB as support for you.

I've been questioning him to be as diligent and thorough as possible and because its because it's boring and dangerous to go with the obvious choice. No one else seemed willing to exhaust all possibilities so I decided to do it.

Occam's razor would still point to you being a wolf with an overly ambitious plan that backfired tremendously. You've been scummy as hell. Your joking about us being wolves together doesn't exactly help that either.

i don't mistake it, which is why i'm saying it's fucked up. HE IS SAYING WE ARE SCUM TOGETHER. yet he's still vying for your vote. the fact that makes you dismiss that fact or not even pay attention to it at all is a complete oversight on your part, and one you're going to deeply regret if i see rope.

[Mesk514]

Personal attacks are gross and not in the spirit of mafia

welcome to sc2 mafia, i have friendships outside with 99.9% of these players. if they have a seriously problem then can take it up in a pm. You don't see my crying over all the blows i take.

[PowersThatBe]

Who knows.

There are two games in which I played scum you can go reference if you’re unsure

Truth be told, I don’t cc as scum. I’m saying if I was scum and ccing, I would not cc mesk. I would cc blink

[Aardvarks Bark]

welcome to sc2 mafia, i have friendships outside with 99.9% of these players. if they have a seriously problem then can take it up in a pm. You don't see my crying over all the blows i take.

There has to be a line, and the line is definitely before claiming people are lying about heart attacks.

[Mesk514]

welcome to sc2 mafia, i have friendships outside with 99.9% of these players. if they have a seriously problem then can take it up in a pm. You don't see my crying over all the blows i take.

and they're not even personal.

MM refusing to believe the possibility of two masons, dumb on his part.
Stealth refusing to hang around for more than a moments notice and effectively addressing the things I've outlined to him, dumb on his part.

Their oversights are extremely dumb. That does not make them dumb in real life, for all i know they have rocket science degrees and shit. But the way they are using their information is DUMB and scum hunting techniques is dumb. This is what ptb is playing on. so sorry you can't see it. but you will understand in the end game.

[Iced_Monopoly]

The hammer is enabled.

[Mesk514]

There has to be a line, and the line is definitely before claiming people are lying about heart attacks.

WHERE THE FUCK DID I FUCKING CLAIM HE WAS LYING ABOUT SOMEONE HAVING A HEART ATTACK!!!! QUOTE PLEASE!

[Mesk514]

There are two games in which I played scum you can go reference if you’re unsure

Truth be told, I don’t cc as scum. I’m saying if I was scum and ccing, I would not cc mesk. I would cc blink

he's right, he doesn't CC as scum, he's only had 2 games as scum where there really was no need for him to CC.

HE INSTEAD TAKES TOWN LEADER POSITION.

[blinkskater]

well we still need AA's and SB16's votes I would like to see the results of this before I go out drinking...

[Mesk514]

well we still need AA's and SB16's votes I would like to see the results of this before I go out drinking...

go drink blink, if you're firm you're gonna stay with me, AA and SB are gonna take their sweet as time.

[Mesk514]

still waiting for that quote where i supposedly claimed ptb was lying about someone having a heart attack, that's way below the belt, and i wouldn't do such a thing.

[Nawa]

Lol i reread the thread to some <10 page ptb was preparing to pushme and blink when mesk arrived

[Aardvarks Bark]

i don't mistake it, which is why i'm saying it's fucked up. HE IS SAYING WE ARE SCUM TOGETHER. yet he's still vying for your vote. the fact that makes you dismiss that fact or not even pay attention to it at all is a complete oversight on your part, and one you're going to deeply regret if i see rope.

He never once asked me to vote for you. Maybe he did at some point but he pretty much assumed we were teammates as soon as I began interrogating him. It's not a completely illogical assumption to make. Ever since then he's been defending himself under the assumption that I would vote for him cus I'm your teammate.

[Nawa]

Lol i reread the thread to some <10 page ptb was preparing to pushme and blink when mesk arrived

Lolol thats what he said he would do as scum

[Nawa]

Lolol thats what he said he would do as scum

Mrw i see a scumslip

[Mesk514]

He never once asked me to vote for you. Maybe he did at some point but he pretty much assumed we were teammates as soon as I began interrogating him. It's not a completely illogical assumption to make. Ever since then he's been defending himself under the assumption that I would vote for him cus I'm your teammate.

HE DOESNT NEED TO ASK YOU! it's the way he responds to your questions. IF HE REALLY THOUGHT YOU WERE SCUM, why would he even defend himself? YOU would have no choice but to vote with me.

[Aardvarks Bark]

WHERE THE FUCK DID I FUCKING CLAIM HE WAS LYING ABOUT SOMEONE HAVING A HEART ATTACK!!!! QUOTE PLEASE!

I already quoted it, and said it was fucked up, then you said "what's fucked up is ptb is trying to get you to vote for me and accusing you of being teammates with me"