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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    This is a game

    If you get upset for being caught and resort to personal attacks, that's 100% losing the picture here

    Have fun, but respect other players, and respect the game

    You are 100% responsible for what you say

    Your words are toxic here man

    Stop it

    I caught you, you're done, stop throwing a hissy fit
    I see what you're saying about Mag, but I"m uncomfortable with this last sentence because it sounds hypocritical Frog. It's almost like telling mafia to concede, ya know? That's part of the reason why people are calling you toxic.

    Also, I'd like to say that I"m against your fear lynch. I'm just following slaol here.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I see what you're saying about Mag, but I"m uncomfortable with this last sentence because it sounds hypocritical Frog. It's almost like telling mafia to concede, ya know? That's part of the reason why people are calling you toxic.

    Also, I'd like to say that I"m against your fear lynch. I'm just following slaol here.
    No one is "calling" Frog toxic. Hes being very clearly toxic.

    -vote skip

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    No one is "calling" Frog toxic. Hes being very clearly toxic.

    -vote skip
    -vote skip
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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    last game i play here

    lol

    there are just too many glaring issues here
    As a person i will miss you, but this isnt a playstyle I'll be sad to see go if im honest. Maybe link us to some good MU threads where it works on those kind of players

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    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    @Frog , I apologize, I was very harsh against you. You're right that what I said was inappropriate.

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Are we makeing a mistake??
    No. Frog came in, offered nothing but gut, rejected everyone else, insulted people, complained when insulted, claimed insults that didnt happen, scum read a mayor, didnt read the setup, and generally proved a complete disdain for this entire game. Ive never seen a player belong in a game less than frog does.

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    No one is "calling" Frog toxic. Hes being very clearly toxic.

    -vote skip
    Hey slaol, this isn't acceptable. This looks personal.

    I think your characterization earlier on Frog was spot on, but calling it toxic was where the line was crossed.

    And hey, maybe I'm being hypocritical with my attacks on Light, Kenny, and Mike, so I apologize on that front.

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    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    hey. this topic is a bit overdue. let's not cram the thread with it. I admit I crossed the line there, and I was in the wrong; in the interest of keeping the game clean, let's instead discuss the lingering matter of @Gyrlander 's weak attack on Damus (whom he claims to have been scum reading, and yet even admits to having a gut read on them). I believe they were your foremost vote, and so, I expect that you have a. stronger and better articulated opinion on them. Whereas, you had none.

    This is very nearly at the point of open-wolfing where you can't be scum, and were, in fact, framed. Quick mislynch. I'd say, but take this with a grain of salt, that it was likely someone who'd. played with you in the past and possibly saw you as easy to paint.

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Hey slaol, this isn't acceptable. This looks personal.

    I think your characterization earlier on Frog was spot on, but calling it toxic was where the line was crossed.

    And hey, maybe I'm being hypocritical with my attacks on Light, Kenny, and Mike, so I apologize on that front.
    The line wasnt crossed. His play wasnt helpful. Its analytics not personal

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Sry I didn't have the chance to play yesterday. Did anyone post a recap of the jury chat? Is there a votecount from when damus died somewhere?
    Kenny you missed a lot you will just have to read up.
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    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    Sry I didn't have the chance to play yesterday. Did anyone post a recap of the jury chat? Is there a votecount from when damus died somewhere?
    I believe Distorted, MM and someone else (?) voted innocent. Everyone else abstained to. my knowledge.
    I was AFK during the trial bomb phase vote thing so I can't really be of much help when it comes to the jury chat

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    I believe Distorted, MM and someone else (?) voted innocent. Everyone else abstained to. my knowledge.
    I was AFK during the trial bomb phase vote thing so I can't really be of much help when it comes to the jury chat
    It was distorted MM and Me who voted Inno and Light wanted to Abstain and no one voted Guilty. Also most people admired they would have voted inno
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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    JUST A HEADS UP I WILL BE CLOSING THIS THREAD DOWN SOON. THEN WE WILL RESUME THE DAY PHASE AT A LATER TIME, AND GIVE EVERYONE A BREATHER (Including me ;P)
    STANDBY.
    Last edited by AIVION; November 21st, 2018 at 07:30 PM.

    Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
    If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    AS OF NOW, FROG IS DEAD. HIS ROLE WAS JUST A SIMPLE ATTORNEY.. INVESTIGATION PHASE WILL CONTINUE THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING, SO WE ALL CAN HAVE THAT BREAK. IT WILL ALSO BE A NEW INVESTIGATION PHASE AS WELL SO TREAT THIS LIKE A NORMAL NIGHT PHASE!
    Sorry for the Inconvenience! …This was a hard choice for me to make =(

    Hopefully everyone has a Nice and happy Turkey day!! ^_^

    UPDATE: Game will start at 10AM Friday Morning (Eastern Standard Time)


    Last edited by AIVION; November 22nd, 2018 at 03:36 PM.

    Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
    If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    INVESTIGATION PHASE 3 IS NOW IN PROGRESS!

    After what happened the last Investigation phase, the courtroom is hoping to continue it's investigation towards the truth, the FINAL truth of who the REAL MASTERMINDS are behind the dark age of the law coming to fruition. After each and very trial, and each and every investigation, the court felt like they were coming closer and closer to this goal.

    Good luck, hopefully everyone is refreshed and recharged, and ready to tackle the new phase!






    Innocent Attorneys:
    @MarshmallowMarshal
    @Mike
    @Gyrlander
    @Slaol - Our Honorable Judge
    @Magoroth
    @Voss
    @Numbertwo
    @Distorted
    @Light_Yagami
    @Kenny

    Guilty Attorneys:
    @Damus_Graves Guilty Defendant: Died in a Bombing.
    @blinkskater Attorney: Died in a Bombing.
    @Stealthbomber16 - Replaced with @Frog - Attorney - Found Guilty.


    With the death of three players, the Condorcet voting will be as follows:

    Example:

    Spoiler : Cvote :
    Mike, Kenny, Distorted, Numbertwo, LightYagami, Gyrlander, MarshmallowMarshall, Magoroth, Voss,


    You can still see the live voting taking place here: https://narrator.systeminplace.net/co...l?thread=43433

    9 votes to hammer. <- votes to SKIP, not lynch. If you feel you want to skip day when all the votes are of a majorities consensus, you may vote to skip.


    Investigative phase 3 Ends: (Again, subject to change depending on votes)
    • 00

    • 00

    • 00

    • 00

    DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS

    Last edited by AIVION; November 25th, 2018 at 10:12 AM.

    Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
    If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    hey. this topic is a bit overdue. let's not cram the thread with it. I admit I crossed the line there, and I was in the wrong; in the interest of keeping the game clean, let's instead discuss the lingering matter of @Gyrlander 's weak attack on Damus (whom he claims to have been scum reading, and yet even admits to having a gut read on them). I believe they were your foremost vote, and so, I expect that you have a. stronger and better articulated opinion on them. Whereas, you had none.

    This is very nearly at the point of open-wolfing where you can't be scum, and were, in fact, framed. Quick mislynch. I'd say, but take this with a grain of salt, that it was likely someone who'd. played with you in the past and possibly saw you as easy to paint.
    Yeah, and then explain why I put him as my first scum read when practically no one was talking about it ;). (As MM kindly explained)


    Thank you Anonymous Donor

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Does Frog count towards our losscon?
    @AIVION
    Town consensus had frog as lynch target and in an effort to maintain game momentum it will be counted as a mis lynch. In a sense, they would have been “Hammered” anyway if this was a normal Mafia game. (remember you have 3 Mis lynches instead of 2, this is the 13 player setup)
    Anything can happen though! =)
    Last edited by AIVION; November 23rd, 2018 at 09:00 AM.

    Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
    If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Here are my reads as stands

    MM /Distorted posable scum team or Posable town team. Leaning more to scum team. They are defending each other heavy but no one else. Suspect.

    Mag/Number2 scum team according to Frog

    Number 2 I am a bit confused as with frog saw him as a scum team with Mag. Number 2 play to call out the bomber would be one of the worst plays ever if he was on dumas team. Yes he can be posable bomber yes but unknown as also that would not be a smart play. So I think we need to really look into Number2.

    Kenny is not playing very pro town more like happy go lucky. so Nul read on him.

    Light well I would guess jester but no jester in this save. he is Scum / Bomber / even posable Town I really dont know. hard to read him at this time.

    Gry yes pushed for Dumas up to be trialed yes but Great play to get a quick inno So that does not inno him. Remember he played bad as pros and the consciences in Jury chat was we where going to inno him. If bomber did not hit Dumas would have been innoed that is fact. So yes Gry is suspect.

    We need to look into Frogs leads he gave us as there is a good chance he may have uncovered something.

    Voss I 100% belive is Nuet.

    Sloal I still trust his judgement only reason he wanted Frog gone was the damming Evadance MM pulled up showing SB16 defending Dumas. What really has be Questioning MM is SB16 painted a pretty bow on SB16 for a small defense on Dumas when MM Hardcore Defending Dumas in Jury chat. So much so he told us not to lotion to Slaol. That was what the augment between Voss and MM was in Jury chat. Voss said to follow Sloal and MM said we should not. As you can see my conflict.

    MM lead a great argument and voted Inno for Dumas that I joined in and innoed. Then Distorted started talking about crapes and then Innoed as he is talking about food. Light came in and wanted to Abstin from voting. Why ???. Kenny was just acting the nut saying he was Fixing votes. saying this is his night chat personalty. sb16 came in and said he was going to end up inning Dumas also. one more thing SB16 did also ask for us to wait to vote 1 hour before the end so mafia could not fix votes. MM or distorted was agent that. Voss wanted the votes to go down the middle 50/50 saying that why judge can do the deciding vote. I said that was stupid as will allow the Mafia to fix votes MM did agree with me on that.

    Sloal I hope all this info will be useful. I left out the fact of number2 talking about bombing the trial because that you already know and is driven into the ground I belive.

    Mike 100% Town. we have 2 scum and 2 evil bomber. we get those 3 we win. if we lych 2 more town we lose. and scum also have there ability to insta guilty or inno. so 1 more town lych we will be screwed keep that in mind also.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
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    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Spoiler : cvote :
    Numbertwo,MarshmallowMarshall,Mike,LightYagami,Gyr lander,Distorted,Magoroth,Kenny,Voss,
    I like that list other than myself lol but why Kenny most town as you??????
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    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    im going out drinking soon so i'll just claim my role now.

    my role is Insane Defense Attorney and my defense target is Voss. He is not making my job easy though.

    I have a proposition. If we vote up Voss then im going to die no matter what.

    If he is voted guilty i will die and lose the game
    If he is voted innocent i will die and win the game
    If he is killed by the bomber i will die and lose the game.

    No matter what happens during the trial of Voss, im going to die.

    Check my first few posts in this Game and you will see that im trying to get voss put on trial.

    My plan was to wait until the bomber and mafia vote manipulator was dealt with before revealing myself.

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Numbertwo View Post
    im going out drinking soon so i'll just claim my role now.

    my role is Insane Defense Attorney and my defense target is Voss. He is not making my job easy though.

    I have a proposition. If we vote up Voss then im going to die no matter what.

    If he is voted guilty i will die and lose the game
    If he is voted innocent i will die and win the game
    If he is killed by the bomber i will die and lose the game.

    No matter what happens during the trial of Voss, im going to die.

    Check my first few posts in this Game and you will see that im trying to get voss put on trial.

    My plan was to wait until the bomber and mafia vote manipulator was dealt with before revealing myself.
    This don't add us because if this was true. Voss would not be insane Pros attory . Because we know there is a bomber. Then why has Voss been so hard on me?

    @Avion If we lych a Nuet does that count as a mistrial or does it reset our Votes.

    Because if it does reset it good thing for town is WE will know for a fact what Number 2 is and I am now leaning more to bomber. if he is not we can use him as a cushion. if we lych 2 town by mistake so town will not lose. I dont think we should lych him today. I am saying if we mess up tonight and guilty some another town make Number 2 auto lych for next night to reset our votes. Then town can't lose. Scum will be ages this idea because this plan will hurt them what do you think Sloal ?
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    This don't add us because if this was true. Voss would not be insane Pros attory . Because we know there is a bomber. Then why has Voss been so hard on me?

    @Avion If we lych a Nuet does that count as a mistrial or does it reset our Votes.

    Because if it does reset it good thing for town is WE will know for a fact what Number 2 is and I am now leaning more to bomber. if he is not we can use him as a cushion. if we lych 2 town by mistake so town will not lose. I dont think we should lych him today. I am saying if we mess up tonight and guilty some another town make Number 2 auto lych for next night to reset our votes. Then town can't lose. Scum will be ages this idea because this plan will hurt them what do you think Sloal ?

    The Mislynches ONLY count for Innocent Attorney lynches. Hidden Courtroom Menaces/Courtroom Bomber/Corrupt Attorney Faction does NOT count towards it and would reset the counter.

    Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
    If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    This don't add us because if this was true. Voss would not be insane Pros attory . Because we know there is a bomber. Then why has Voss been so hard on me?

    @Avion If we lych a Nuet does that count as a mistrial or does it reset our Votes.

    Because if it does reset it good thing for town is WE will know for a fact what Number 2 is and I am now leaning more to bomber. if he is not we can use him as a cushion. if we lych 2 town by mistake so town will not lose. I dont think we should lych him today. I am saying if we mess up tonight and guilty some another town make Number 2 auto lych for next night to reset our votes. Then town can't lose. Scum will be ages this idea because this plan will hurt them what do you think Sloal ?
    i don't think everyone that goes hard on you is a executioner.

    It's true that voss can't be an executioner because of the existence of a bomber.

 

 

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