S-FM 299: Insanity 2: the Second One, Gamethread

[BananaCucho]

you're a lemur

You're a doe

[secondpassing]

so:
Town - Sen, MM, yzb, secondpassing
Scum - Light, Frinckles
is where I stand

Where does Varcron go?
What about Gyrlander?

[SuperJack]

I think Frinckles is much worse bc Frinckles supported a mass-claim rather apathetically, from the sides. and I think Frinckles is objectively scummier

Banana has the experience to know to stop such claims.
You vote someone day 1 it's because they are scum, roleclaims should have no impact upon this.

[BananaCucho]

I admit Ganelon suddenly voting Banana is weird. You were all buddy buddy yesterday

He's emotionally abusive that's what he is. Or just high

[secondpassing]

You're a doe

Am I'm a meerkat.

[Ganelon]

Where does Varcron go?
What about Gyrlander?

I guess I'd sooner believe that Gyrlander is town rather than scum
dunno about Varcron

about MM - mm has made some very interesting statements that he really has to explain because they seem to have come from nowhere

[BananaCucho]

Banana has the experience to know to stop such claims.
You vote someone day 1 it's because they are scum, roleclaims should have no impact upon this.

I have no such experience. This is my first game, stop spreading lies

You may be confusing me with AppleCucho, notorious sc2mafia villain

[secondpassing]

Banana has the experience to know to stop such claims.
You vote someone day 1 it's because they are scum, roleclaims should have no impact upon this.

I'm not really big on lynching claimed people. Possible confirmation later, and it's harder to keep up a narrative.

[Gyrlander]

He's emotionally abusive that's what he is. Or just high

I hope he doesn't pull the "I was drunk yesterday". Cause that'd be ridiculous (and actually true). But that way we know him supporting your chaos garbage was pure intention.

[Gyrlander]

I guess I'd sooner believe that Gyrlander is town rather than scum
dunno about Varcron

about MM - mm has made some very interesting statements that he really has to explain because they seem to have come from nowhere

Please mention which statements.

[BananaCucho]

-vote Ganelon

[BananaCucho]

This vote is 110% emotional

[Ganelon]

Please mention which statements.

he said Banana was a pro-town neutral which is a very interesting assertion

[Ganelon]

I hope he doesn't pull the "I was drunk yesterday". Cause that'd be ridiculous (and actually true). But that way we know him supporting your chaos garbage was pure intention.

nah I really wanted to support it

[SuperJack]

I'm not really big on lynching claimed people. Possible confirmation later, and it's harder to keep up a narrative.

Fool, confirmation will take multiple nights, if your lucky.
The setup makes it extremely easy to keep up with narrative.

You saying scum gets free pass for days if they claim a tpr?

It's also day 1. And anyrole claim means fuck all.
They should of been lynched.

[BananaCucho]

nah I really wanted to support it

Then wtf are you doing today

[BananaCucho]

Good god we still have more than 24 hours

[secondpassing]

Legit though, aside from the mass claiming era of yesterday, Frinckle's vote has been parked on Ganelon for about the whole game.
I don't remember seeing a good narrative to go along with it. Nor do I remember him pushing for it.

Wasn't he a bit apathetic about lynching D1 in general?

[BananaCucho]

Fool, confirmation will take multiple nights, if your lucky.
The setup makes it extremely easy to keep up with narrative.

You saying scum gets free pass for days if they claim a tpr?

It's also day 1. And anyrole claim means fuck all.
They should of been lynched.

[SuperJack]

Legit though, aside from the mass claiming era of yesterday, Frinckle's vote has been parked on Ganelon for about the whole game.
I don't remember seeing a good narrative to go along with it. Nor do I remember him pushing for it.

Wasn't he a bit apathetic about lynching D1 in general?

Ask him. I'd rather vote someone who's played anti-town.

[BananaCucho]

Ask him. I'd rather vote someone who's played anti-town.

Which is it JACK? Are you PLing me for being anti town, or voting me because I'm scummy?

[SuperJack]

Which is it JACK? Are you PLing me for being anti town, or voting me because I'm scummy?

Scum is anti-town. You are being anti town because you are scum.

[BananaCucho]

Scum is anti-town. You are being anti town because you are scum.

Scum is scum. You can be town and anti-town and you can be scum and pro-town

You think spamming "vote banana" for a whole day with 48 hours left is pro-town?

[SuperJack]

Scum is scum. You can be town and anti-town and you can be scum and pro-town

You think spamming "vote banana" for a whole day with 48 hours left is pro-town?

Compared to the level of spam and fluff you have delivered, what I've done is insignificant.

I.am calling you both anti town and scum. Does this please you?

[BananaCucho]

Compared to the level of spam and fluff you have delivered, what I've done is insignificant.

I.am calling you both anti town and scum. Does this please you?

Scum how? What about my play is specifically scummy and not just "anti-town"?

[BananaCucho]

Compared to the level of spam and fluff you have delivered, what I've done is insignificant.

I.am calling you both anti town and scum. Does this please you?

Yeah you haven't done anything in 24 hours except say vote Banana.

[Varcron]

Compared to the level of spam and fluff you have delivered, what I've done is insignificant.

I.am calling you both anti town and scum. Does this please you?

SJ, am I right thinking that Cucho could be jester? He is looking more and more like it the more he posts from my eyes.

[BananaCucho]

Which isn't pro-town in any way.

[BananaCucho]

SJ, am I right thinking that Cucho could be jester? He is looking more and more like it the more he posts from my eyes.

Does jester get to pick someone to die? If so lets hope I am jester

[Sen]

Ok. Kind of caught up, although my brain is still wishing to be asleep.

Banana, you are pretending that the votes on you are due to the whole TPR fishing of yesterday -just like yesterday you tried to make it lok like we were policy lynching you-.

While you pushing on the low-hanging fruit is indeed a part of the read, the fact is that you haven't changed anything since; tons of fluff and random buddying since we started voting you, followed by feigned indifference (which is scummy as fuck, because a town player would never let themselves get lynched nor allow others to waste time voting them), and now when it's landed that you are really being lynched today, you engage panic mode and jump into a train of the only player who has a chance of matching the amount of votes on you.

[SuperJack]

Scum how? What about my play is specifically scummy and not just "anti-town"?

Can't a scum claim they are just being anti-town? What are the differences?

[Varcron]

Ok. Kind of caught up, although my brain is still wishing to be asleep.

Banana, you are pretending that the votes on you are due to the whole TPR fishing of yesterday -just like yesterday you tried to make it lok like we were policy lynching you-.

While you pushing on the low-hanging fruit is indeed a part of the read, the fact is that you haven't changed anything since; tons of fluff and random buddying since we started voting you, followed by feigned indifference (which is scummy as fuck, because a town player would never let themselves get lynched nor allow others to waste time voting them), and now when it's landed that you are really being lynched today, you engage panic mode and jump into a train of the only player who has a chance of matching the amount of votes on you.

I think he wants to get lynched since he's jester, it makes sense.

[SuperJack]

Yeah you haven't done anything in 24 hours except say vote Banana.

Vote banana.

[Frinckles]

WOOoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooo

[BananaCucho]

Ok. Kind of caught up, although my brain is still wishing to be asleep.

Banana, you are pretending that the votes on you are due to the whole TPR fishing of yesterday -just like yesterday you tried to make it lok like we were policy lynching you-.

While you pushing on the low-hanging fruit is indeed a part of the read, the fact is that you haven't changed anything since; tons of fluff and random buddying since we started voting you, followed by feigned indifference (which is scummy as fuck, because a town player would never let themselves get lynched nor allow others to waste time voting them), and now when it's landed that you are really being lynched today, you engage panic mode and jump into a train of the only player who has a chance of matching the amount of votes on you.

Sen, yes, the votes are on me because of it. I had 0 votes until I started that play. None.

Pringles said that I only start playing once I'm pressured. I have 0 votes, no pressure, no suspicion from anyone. I just went back and checked, you didn't vote me until we had already run Treecko up for a claim. Then you voted me.

If I was scum, I had 0 reason to make that play. I am only voted because of the play that I made. Want proof? Let me get it for you.

[Frinckles]

Man this vodka is excellent.

[SuperJack]

I think he wants to get lynched since he's jester, it makes sense.

Banana wouldn't let himself get lynched on D1 if he got king jester rolecard. He would atleast set up future lynches though

[BananaCucho]

Can't a scum claim they are just being anti-town? What are the differences?

You've said "banana is experienced enough to know x, y, z" over and over

You're experienced enough to know the difference between "scummy" and "anti-town". How does my play make sense from a scum perspective?

[Sen]

I think he wants to get lynched since he's jester, it makes sense.

Lynching the Jester on this save helps everyone, so who cares.

He's not a jester, tho. His play is anti-town/pure scum. Benings should be helping the town if they care about winning.

[Sen]

How does my play make sense from a scum perspective?

I've explained this multiple times: low-effort non-actions that attempt to get on everyone's good side; buddying with active and power players, while pushing low-hanging, inactive ones. Can't think of an easier way to get free points while doing nothing.

[Sen]

I just went back and checked, you didn't vote me until we had already run Treecko up for a claim. Then you voted me.

Yes. I marked you as likely scum on my previous ISO. Starting spamming, pushing to get claims from inactive/new players simply confirmed that your intentions weren't the same as those of a town player.

[yzb25]

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@BananaCucho

Ganelon doing this is a totally Ganelonish thing to do. Dude can wake up one day and decide he feels totally different about the entire game. He used to be worse. He used to be able to flipflop this way and back like every 20 mins. He used to get lynched like crazy for it.

It really is just how it is. Trying to read the slot based on consistency is never going to work.

[SuperJack]

You've said "banana is experienced enough to know x, y, z" over and over

You're experienced enough to know the difference between "scummy" and "anti-town". How does my play make sense from a scum perspective?

Why refuse to answer?
Your play makes sense because it has hindered the town.
Fill the room with junk, participate in mass role clams.
All your actions have made a strong staring position for scum? But you couldn't play it light this round, you had to play wild to topple over your recent reputation

[Varcron]

Banana wouldn't let himself get lynched on D1 if he got king jester rolecard. He would atleast set up future lynches though

That's why you've been fooled

He expects you to think that, reverse psychology.

[Frinckles]

Back

@BananaCucho

Ganelon doing this is a totally Ganelonish thing to do. Dude can wake up one day and decide he feels totally different about the entire game. He used to be worse. He used to be able to flipflop this way and back like every 20 mins. He used to get lynched like crazy for it.

It really is just how it is. Trying to read the slot based on consistency is never going to work.

It's true.

[yzb25]

Jesus christ SJ Banana isn't the person you're adamant he is in your head. Stop with the "BC's play is wrong, BC is too good to be wrong, so town BC would never do that" >.<

[Gyrlander]

After some thought.

-unvote

Tbh I don't want to lynch today HEE HEE

[Sen]

Tbh I don't want to lynch today HEE HEE

After being explained how D1NL is something that exclusively benefits pure scum roles, there is no excuse for this.

Anyone not voting Banana right now: it should be clear by now that your candidate isn't getting any love today. Put it to some good use and let's get us some banana smoothies for tonight.

[yzb25]

Jesus christ SJ Banana isn't the person you're adamant he is in your head. Stop with the "BC's play is wrong, BC is too good to be wrong, so town BC would never do that" >.<

You're applying an already garbage meta read to a person you haven't played with in years.

[Gyrlander]

After being explained how D1NL is something that exclusively benefits pure scum roles, there is no excuse for this.

Anyone not voting Banana right now: it should be clear by now that your candidate isn't getting any love today. Put it to some good use and let's get us some banana smoothies for tonight.

Your explanation didn't convince me and I townread the current trains. So, no lynch for me.