S-FM Turnabout Mafia - Page 75
Register

User Tag List

Page 75 of 77 FirstFirst ... 25 65 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 LastLast
Results 3,701 to 3,750 of 3803
  1. ISO #3701

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    @Slaol probably had 1 of the most frustrating roles ive ever seen in FM lol

    but well played everyone. @light yagami you actually played damn well this game, especially from how u usually play xD

    @Marshmallow Marshall ....... =( u were just getting to the point of trusting me in games again... i even told aivion when u mentioned the squirrel stew i was like...fuck hes not going to trust me for another 5 games lol
    Yea I feel really bad about that... Sorry slaol

    Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
    If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.

  2. ISO #3702

  3. ISO #3703

  4. ISO #3704

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    thats an understatement. i literally had u as 100% locked town in my eyes lol. you tried so hard to convince me u were bomber. took so long lol we are talking multiple conversations, each 1 spanning over 1-2 hours
    That nickname better be fucking glorious @Mike

    :P

    Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
    If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.

  5. ISO #3705

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Numbertwo View Post
    Well played mike. I was extremely close to changing my vote to you during the day Voss was trialed because i wanted to punish you for talking about lynching me.
    I was totally ready to abandon my mission to lynch Voss just to screw everyone that wanted to lynch me over.
    If it make you feel better I never wanted to lych you I wanted to Bomb you.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

    <a href=https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/signaturepics/sigpic27614_1.gif target=_blank>https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/signat...pic27614_1.gif</a>

  6. ISO #3706

  7. ISO #3707

  8. ISO #3708

  9. ISO #3709

  10. ISO #3710

  11. ISO #3711

  12. ISO #3712

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Numbertwo View Post
    You didnt have any bombs the day voss was trialed.
    I had bomb when I put it out as a suggestion. that is why I didn't want you to be voted d3 no more bombs. but I had to keep looking like town. So used Mag tunneling on Voss as cover to switch my votes from Voss on bottom to Voss on top. When I so town read him. Major Scum move on my part but was counting on claiming it on Mag as i did Last day.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

    <a href=https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/signaturepics/sigpic27614_1.gif target=_blank>https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/signat...pic27614_1.gif</a>

  13. ISO #3713

  14. ISO #3714
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    I cannot believe MM was town. .1
    Kenny should've been lynched. .2
    Mike, please stop the spam. It's quite annoying. It got you townread in the end but please stop it, it's extremely annoying when someone tunnels on you.

  15. ISO #3715

  16. ISO #3716

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    this is actually pretty standard for here now. we are usually high posters =P lol take a look in the archives at most the recent games. from december 2017 to now
    Sfm watermeloan started it all. Was glorious

  17. ISO #3717

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    So assessment of players ive met this game. @Mike this is a very good neutral evil @Distorted this is a very good player in general @Marshmallow Marshall this is not a good town without information. Better with a power role or general info im sure @Damus_Graves lol this fucking scrub @Magoroth this is a good town leader @Light_Yagami this player needs to take things more srz but has ability @Kenny this is frankly an obvious scum who just happened to evade lynch by being slightly less lynchable. Good on that defense i guess but could be better. @blinkskater this is a good town @Stealthbomber16 this guy needs better timing of course @Slaol this guy needs to improve at hunting neutrals as his skillset is full on interaction assessment

  18. ISO #3718

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Only down side to this play I made will not work again. So I have to come up with a new style. So be warned now Meta will not work on me as I like to play different each game. I did use some of the same I did in Chicago. @Magoroth Great Job pointing out my scum Meta from Chicago. also at Light calling me out as bomber.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

    <a href=https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/signaturepics/sigpic27614_1.gif target=_blank>https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/signat...pic27614_1.gif</a>

  19. ISO #3719

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Since all of you wanted to help me with Lessons. Let me Give one Never Bet me because I never lose a bet. Distorted has learned that lol. Sorry distorted I have to admit that jury chat was so much fun. I can't believe Mag never read it it was basicly a Scum chat not jury chat. MaG never read it just voted I was Laughing so hard.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

    <a href=https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/signaturepics/sigpic27614_1.gif target=_blank>https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/signat...pic27614_1.gif</a>

  20. ISO #3720

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Since all of you wanted to help me with Lessons. Let me Give one Never Bet me because I never lose a bet. Distorted has learned that lol. Sorry distorted I have to admit that jury chat was so much fun. I can't believe Mag never read it it was basicly a Scum chat not jury chat. MaG never read it just voted I was Laughing so hard.
    Inb4 many vig shots n1

  21. ISO #3721

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Since all of you wanted to help me with Lessons. Let me Give one Never Bet me because I never lose a bet. Distorted has learned that lol. Sorry distorted I have to admit that jury chat was so much fun. I can't believe Mag never read it it was basicly a Scum chat not jury chat. MaG never read it just voted I was Laughing so hard.
    lol i started to think u were 'slow' in the chat... I figured u sounded good in the first FM maybe because u had more time to post in forum posts, so maybe u took ur time with them? then......rekt

    but yeah, that chat was literally a scumchat with all the details of the game in it lol

    Go here → → https://discord.gg/rYRT5Tz Type s.cat, enjoy.

  22. ISO #3722

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    @Slaol probably had 1 of the most frustrating roles ive ever seen in FM lol

    but well played everyone. @light yagami you actually played damn well this game, especially from how u usually play xD

    @Marshmallow Marshall ....... =( u were just getting to the point of trusting me in games again... i even told aivion when u mentioned the squirrel stew i was like...fuck hes not going to trust me for another 5 games lol
    OK so people voting Mike for MVP, and Distorted deserving a squirrel stew, and myself deserving a fucking bullet for worst attorney ever... WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  23. ISO #3723

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I hope you all know the Stupid Newb Mike was all an act. I Enjoyed playing with you all.
    -vote Mike


    lol
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  24. ISO #3724

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    8v5 with only 7 voters and 0 night actions is not winnable. Also one of the most taxing games ive ever played.

    Still fun and unique. Sorry to Gyrlander. No hard feelings bb.

    Otherwise i hope to see some people for a MUCH more light hearted clown town game lol
    Well, with the Executioner being anti-town... Uhm.... yeah. This setup just needs less court interruptions, and maybe one more citizen, but it was very very fun.


    Also, a shoutout to @Damus_Graves who has created a very big effect from quite small plays on D1. Good job. I am still quite shocked that the only one in this game who didn't think that I would be horribly trash as Damus' scummate was... Damus' scummate lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  25. ISO #3725

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    lol i started to think u were 'slow' in the chat... I figured u sounded good in the first FM maybe because u had more time to post in forum posts, so maybe u took ur time with them? then......rekt

    but yeah, that chat was literally a scumchat with all the details of the game in it lol
    Honestly, this game is the big reminder not to think noobs will act like stupid people. That's the general thing we should all learn here, including myself lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  26. ISO #3726

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    So assessment of players ive met this game. @Mike this is a very good neutral evil @Distorted this is a very good player in general @Marshmallow Marshall this is not a good town without information. Better with a power role or general info im sure @Damus_Graves lol this fucking scrub @Magoroth this is a good town leader @Light_Yagami this player needs to take things more srz but has ability @Kenny this is frankly an obvious scum who just happened to evade lynch by being slightly less lynchable. Good on that defense i guess but could be better. @blinkskater this is a good town @Stealthbomber16 this guy needs better timing of course @Slaol this guy needs to improve at hunting neutrals as his skillset is full on interaction assessment
    Why did you mention everyone but me


    Thank you Anonymous Donor

  27. ISO #3727

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    I will never ever ever ever let go of someone being inconsistent again.

    Good job Mike, but that will only ever work once with me in the game again.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  28. ISO #3728

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Honestly, this game is the big reminder not to think noobs will act like stupid people. That's the general thing we should all learn here, including myself lol.
    Will you SCUMREAD me every game? Maybe when I'm scum you'll townread me<3


    Thank you Anonymous Donor

  29. ISO #3729

  30. ISO #3730
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    yeah, I never read it. I didn't have time to read it, but even if I had, not much wold've changed. I was the only town in the jury lmao

  31. ISO #3731

  32. ISO #3732

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    btw @Marshmallow Marshall If I ever need a defense attorney...I am not hiring you xD lol that was so funny to watch
    Well, you definetly should hire me if you look at the Damus defense... xD I had so much fun defending a scum
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  33. ISO #3733

  34. ISO #3734

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    So assessment of players ive met this game. @Mike this is a very good neutral evil @Distorted this is a very good player in general @Marshmallow Marshall this is not a good town without information. Better with a power role or general info im sure @Damus_Graves lol this fucking scrub @Magoroth this is a good town leader @Light_Yagami this player needs to take things more srz but has ability @Kenny this is frankly an obvious scum who just happened to evade lynch by being slightly less lynchable. Good on that defense i guess but could be better. @blinkskater this is a good town @Stealthbomber16 this guy needs better timing of course @Slaol this guy needs to improve at hunting neutrals as his skillset is full on interaction assessment
    You monster didn't mention the cat empress. You're no longer honorable.

    but I agree with this list


    Also, I just noticed something. Magoroth could have been Bomber, since associations didn't clear him. He was following his town meta, though, but I could've got fooled there.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  35. ISO #3735

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Gyrlander View Post
    You have also played before with MM, SB, Light, Mike...

    You didn't mention me, check again
    You should read what you said again. Take part in the conversation you are having Gyr.

    I played with you long before. Youre not as new to me.

  36. ISO #3736
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    anyway: things as I see them. @Mike you're a good neutral. if that's the kind of play style you want to pull off, remember that whenever you're town, it'll become obvious as hell cuz you won't be flip-flopping and spamming then lol. so you got two options: either you improve your scum game, or you worsen your town game. I'd go with the former. Your reads are good, and your reasoning skills are very good, you just need to work on a few things:
    a) post count
    b) "stream of consciousness"; your reads violently wobble from one person to another. you need to either plan your game thoroughly beforehand, and you should primarily be interested in telling the truth, even as scum, because that makes people townread you hard. this isn't to say you should throw or anything like that, just that you should act more like a townie should, push lynches, and try to use the information you have as an advantage (i.e., the info that you're scum), without having it show.
    c) tunneling. try to listen more to people.
    @Distorted nicely played. nothing much else I can say here, except maybe you shouldn't have inno'd Damus. other than that, very good play there.
    @Marshmallow Marshall
    a) Stop caring so much about how people see you (scum/town). it's important, but not to the extent where you should be posting solely so that you don't get scumread. just act naturally.
    b) Please use fewer meta-reads. I know you love them, but I seriously don't think they're viable, especially not for very good players. they're also dependent on knowing a fuckton of things, such as the. relationship between two players, a player's personality, attitude, and personal/social situation, as well as posting style, affective background, etc etc. it's a lot, too much, I'd say, to account for.
    @Gyrlander
    a)We both need to stop being so passive. I'm not always passive, but I was this game.
    b)When people call you out for being passive, it doesn't necessarily make them scum. it just makes them displeased at your play style.
    @Numbertwo
    a) Nice play and good strategy. Perfect sense, pretty much forced us into voting Voss at the end game. well-played.

  37. ISO #3737

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    anyway: things as I see them. @Mike you're a good neutral. if that's the kind of play style you want to pull off, remember that whenever you're town, it'll become obvious as hell cuz you won't be flip-flopping and spamming then lol. so you got two options: either you improve your scum game, or you worsen your town game. I'd go with the former. Your reads are good, and your reasoning skills are very good, you just need to work on a few things:
    a) post count
    b) "stream of consciousness"; your reads violently wobble from one person to another. you need to either plan your game thoroughly beforehand, and you should primarily be interested in telling the truth, even as scum, because that makes people townread you hard. this isn't to say you should throw or anything like that, just that you should act more like a townie should, push lynches, and try to use the information you have as an advantage (i.e., the info that you're scum), without having it show.
    c) tunneling. try to listen more to people.
    @Distorted nicely played. nothing much else I can say here, except maybe you shouldn't have inno'd Damus. other than that, very good play there.
    @Marshmallow Marshall
    a) Stop caring so much about how people see you (scum/town). it's important, but not to the extent where you should be posting solely so that you don't get scumread. just act naturally.
    b) Please use fewer meta-reads. I know you love them, but I seriously don't think they're viable, especially not for very good players. they're also dependent on knowing a fuckton of things, such as the. relationship between two players, a player's personality, attitude, and personal/social situation, as well as posting style, affective background, etc etc. it's a lot, too much, I'd say, to account for.
    @Gyrlander
    a)We both need to stop being so passive. I'm not always passive, but I was this game.
    b)When people call you out for being passive, it doesn't necessarily make them scum. it just makes them displeased at your play style.
    @Numbertwo
    a) Nice play and good strategy. Perfect sense, pretty much forced us into voting Voss at the end game. well-played.
    Why did you mention everyone but me

  38. ISO #3738

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Why did you mention everyone but me
    HE DIDN'T MENTION EVERYONE

    LIAR = SCUM


    did i break the joke?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  39. ISO #3739

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    anyway: things as I see them. @Mike you're a good neutral. if that's the kind of play style you want to pull off, remember that whenever you're town, it'll become obvious as hell cuz you won't be flip-flopping and spamming then lol. so you got two options: either you improve your scum game, or you worsen your town game. I'd go with the former. Your reads are good, and your reasoning skills are very good, you just need to work on a few things:
    a) post count
    b) "stream of consciousness"; your reads violently wobble from one person to another. you need to either plan your game thoroughly beforehand, and you should primarily be interested in telling the truth, even as scum, because that makes people townread you hard. this isn't to say you should throw or anything like that, just that you should act more like a townie should, push lynches, and try to use the information you have as an advantage (i.e., the info that you're scum), without having it show.
    c) tunneling. try to listen more to people.
    @Distorted nicely played. nothing much else I can say here, except maybe you shouldn't have inno'd Damus. other than that, very good play there.
    @Marshmallow Marshall
    a) Stop caring so much about how people see you (scum/town). it's important, but not to the extent where you should be posting solely so that you don't get scumread. just act naturally.
    b) Please use fewer meta-reads. I know you love them, but I seriously don't think they're viable, especially not for very good players. they're also dependent on knowing a fuckton of things, such as the. relationship between two players, a player's personality, attitude, and personal/social situation, as well as posting style, affective background, etc etc. it's a lot, too much, I'd say, to account for.
    @Gyrlander
    a)We both need to stop being so passive. I'm not always passive, but I was this game.
    b)When people call you out for being passive, it doesn't necessarily make them scum. it just makes them displeased at your play style.
    @Numbertwo
    a) Nice play and good strategy. Perfect sense, pretty much forced us into voting Voss at the end game. well-played.
    I will always believe that meta reads are the strongest reads you can get in Mafia. There is no better read than something that comes directly from their personality. Yes, people can "cover" them; not many, but some can. but in the end, they will surface under the right amount of pressure. Just like how humanity covers up a lot of our animalistic instincts by creating a society with "higher standards". Put even the most 'proper' of people in the right situation, under the right stress/pressure, and their deeper, hereditary instincts will come out. I think thats the same with Mafia meta. A good way is to look past wording. look at the intention of the words. If they post 2 paragraphs, what is the purpose of each paragraph? main points? whats the drive of it? remove all the fluff wording and 'syntax' (this is going to become a new word here rofl), and look at the motivation behind them.
    You are correct though that it does take knowing the person. You wont be having real meta reads after 1-2 games with someone. Meta works more for us right now as well because we have known eachother in the discord so long and on sc2maf. we have literally played hundreds of games together.

    Go here → → https://discord.gg/rYRT5Tz Type s.cat, enjoy.

  40. ISO #3740
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Why did you mention everyone but me
    I didn't mention everyone. and I'm tired. and got some stuff to do, I'll compile the full list later

  41. ISO #3741

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    I will always believe that meta reads are the strongest reads you can get in Mafia. There is no better read than something that comes directly from their personality. Yes, people can "cover" them; not many, but some can. but in the end, they will surface under the right amount of pressure. Just like how humanity covers up a lot of our animalistic instincts by creating a society with "higher standards". Put even the most 'proper' of people in the right situation, under the right stress/pressure, and their deeper, hereditary instincts will come out. I think thats the same with Mafia meta. A good way is to look past wording. look at the intention of the words. If they post 2 paragraphs, what is the purpose of each paragraph? main points? whats the drive of it? remove all the fluff wording and 'syntax' (this is going to become a new word here rofl), and look at the motivation behind them.
    You are correct though that it does take knowing the person. You wont be having real meta reads after 1-2 games with someone. Meta works more for us right now as well because we have known eachother in the discord so long and on sc2maf. we have literally played hundreds of games together.
    if u dont believe me, go join a game on MU where u know NOBODY. start trying to pressure someone. first things ur going to do is start asking questions about their playstyle =P u start fishing for their meta. if you see someone acting weird, u are going to ask "is this how they usually play?". just like efe/yagami. if u used traditional mafia methods of "if its scummy its mafia" then they would get lynched every game. It's meta that keeps us from that.
    Last edited by Distorted; November 27th, 2018 at 02:19 PM.

    Go here → → https://discord.gg/rYRT5Tz Type s.cat, enjoy.

  42. ISO #3742

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    I will always believe that meta reads are the strongest reads you can get in Mafia. There is no better read than something that comes directly from their personality. Yes, people can "cover" them; not many, but some can. but in the end, they will surface under the right amount of pressure. Just like how humanity covers up a lot of our animalistic instincts by creating a society with "higher standards". Put even the most 'proper' of people in the right situation, under the right stress/pressure, and their deeper, hereditary instincts will come out. I think thats the same with Mafia meta. A good way is to look past wording. look at the intention of the words. If they post 2 paragraphs, what is the purpose of each paragraph? main points? whats the drive of it? remove all the fluff wording and 'syntax' (this is going to become a new word here rofl), and look at the motivation behind them.
    You are correct though that it does take knowing the person. You wont be having real meta reads after 1-2 games with someone. Meta works more for us right now as well because we have known eachother in the discord so long and on sc2maf. we have literally played hundreds of games together.
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    if u dont believe me, go join a game on MU where u know NOBODY. start trying to pressure someone. first things ur going to do is start asking questions about their playstyle =P u start fishing for their meta. if you see someone acting weird, u are going to ask "is this how they usually play?". just like efe/yagami. if u used traditional mafia methods of "if its scummy its mafia" then they would get lynched every game. It's meta that keeps us from that.
    I wasn't motivated enough to write a novel about it, so thanks for doing it disto xD

    maybe I should stop the stew.... maybe....
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  43. ISO #3743

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    'meta reading' so to speak, is also a good skill to have IRL ( u know what i mean). it is literally detecting patterns in people themself, rather than current mood, that is how i would compare mafia to. I see it as the deepest form of reading. If you get good at meta reads u can start forming strong meta on people u dont even know based on popular personality traits you notice from people.

    Go here → → https://discord.gg/rYRT5Tz Type s.cat, enjoy.

  44. ISO #3744
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    no, the strongest reads are logical reads. they correlate 100% with alignment, always. if a player acts in the town's interests they are town. otherwise. they are not. @Distorted , you for instance did not act towny. you didn't scum hunt, and just pushed a bit at players. but. you. never actually offered anything of value. of course, that. doesn't. make you scum, but it definitely doesn't make you town either. I'll admit that logical reads in and of themselves are insufficient to construct perfect reads, instead composite reads are required. it's probably (nay, certain!) that if you combine several reading styles into your analysis, your reads will correlate somewhere close to 90-100% with alignment. I can't even quite explain what I'm talking about here very clearly, because it's so highly abstract...

  45. ISO #3745

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    You should read what you said again. Take part in the conversation you are having Gyr.

    I played with you long before. Youre not as new to me.
    Hmmm. It was long ago and I don't remember. Besides FMs that I don't think you can take into account... I'm curious.


    Thank you Anonymous Donor

  46. ISO #3746
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    yes, that's true, but you have to realize that fundamentally people always have a purpose in saying something. otherwise you'll just be a highly sophisticated artificial intelligence, pumping out results without understanding them. EVERYTHING someone says has a purpose, somehow, be it immediate, self-centered, aimed at someone else, or something else. it's not as if the brain is a blackbox and "personality traits" are the primary engine of everything. personality traits just determine your representation of things, which also determines what you aim for. and that's what you read.

  47. ISO #3747

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    no, the strongest reads are logical reads. they correlate 100% with alignment, always. if a player acts in the town's interests they are town. otherwise. they are not. @Distorted , you for instance did not act towny. you didn't scum hunt, and just pushed a bit at players. but. you. never actually offered anything of value. of course, that. doesn't. make you scum, but it definitely doesn't make you town either. I'll admit that logical reads in and of themselves are insufficient to construct perfect reads, instead composite reads are required. it's probably (nay, certain!) that if you combine several reading styles into your analysis, your reads will correlate somewhere close to 90-100% with alignment. I can't even quite explain what I'm talking about here very clearly, because it's so highly abstract...
    I tried to prevent the town from skipping the day and putting us in a situation where the game is locked for scum pretty much. Entered a little late, so failed on it. I offered a LOT of legit reads to the town as well and helped progress the game and the town. If I wanted to be anti town i would have created false reads. Acting towny and giving info to town is simple, which is PRO TOWN. but I was scum. I actually did more scumhunting than half the town. u forget, i had a scum i needed to find also. ill repeat that, it is very easy to be pro town as scum. scum can actually be THE MOST pro town, because they know the facts.

    Go here → → https://discord.gg/rYRT5Tz Type s.cat, enjoy.

  48. ISO #3748

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    I tried to prevent the town from skipping the day and putting us in a situation where the game is locked for scum pretty much. Entered a little late, so failed on it. I offered a LOT of legit reads to the town as well and helped progress the game and the town. If I wanted to be anti town i would have created false reads. Acting towny and giving info to town is simple, which is PRO TOWN. but I was scum. I actually did more scumhunting than half the town. u forget, i had a scum i needed to find also. ill repeat that, it is very easy to be pro town as scum. scum can actually be THE MOST pro town, because they know the facts.
    and meta reads are logical? they are not separate lol. logic is something based off of good opinions or facts. meta is based on the facts of someones personality and behavior patterns, logically put together. things that are not easy to change on a whim.
    Last edited by Distorted; November 27th, 2018 at 02:37 PM.

    Go here → → https://discord.gg/rYRT5Tz Type s.cat, enjoy.

  49. ISO #3749

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    @Magoroth logical is not a type of reading style separate from things. logic applies to every situation. Meta reads is the persons style, unique to that individual. The other form of reading would be to just base what you see from the current game only, not taking into account past games. that means with every person u are just starting from scratch every time. that stops you from really developing in the game. meta is how you grow in mafia.

    if you learn typical scum patterns from how scum act from playing 500 games, thats meta style reading. You are putting together patterns based off of past games to improve your current game.

    You do the same thing with individual players for reading them. You take their playstyle, and compare the motive to how they usually play. if ur not using meta, why not lynch someone who is scumreading someone for coloring a text? that would come off horribly opportunistic to me if i didnt know kiras meta.

    Go here → → https://discord.gg/rYRT5Tz Type s.cat, enjoy.

  50. ISO #3750

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    @Magoroth logical is not a type of reading style separate from things. logic applies to every situation. Meta reads is the persons style, unique to that individual. The other form of reading would be to just base what you see from the current game only, not taking into account past games. that means with every person u are just starting from scratch every time. that stops you from really developing in the game. meta is how you grow in mafia.

    if you learn typical scum patterns from how scum act from playing 500 games, thats meta style reading. You are putting together patterns based off of past games to improve your current game.

    You do the same thing with individual players for reading them. You take their playstyle, and compare the motive to how they usually play. if ur not using meta, why not lynch someone who is scumreading someone for coloring a text? that would come off horribly opportunistic to me if i didnt know kiras meta.
    why do you think in sports they study eachothers playstyles? boxers study the person they are going to fight to learn their style. football teams study each others plays. poker players study each other hoping to find bluff-tells. Every single competitive game/sport does it. even E sports, in sc2 they watch each others replys before competitions to learn their styles. Those are the STRONGEST pieces of information that they can get on their opponent. Mafia is no different from that.
    Last edited by Distorted; November 27th, 2018 at 02:44 PM.

    Go here → → https://discord.gg/rYRT5Tz Type s.cat, enjoy.

 

 

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •