S-FM 218: Mafia Wars III

[God Emperor Trudeau]

aka not playing as town.

Acting is in quotes because I'm not acting anything. I am town, and I am being exactly who I am every single time.

I don't even know why I'm giving you the time of day.

[Cancer]

Such obvi scum
I'm gonna sleep

[deathworlds]

K. Even if someone check her or not, i still don't know why deathworld said be careful of framer.....i mean...does this setup have framer?!?!?!?

shit I was thinking of tailor, same affect, but stronger.

[Cancer]

Acting is in quotes because I'm not acting anything. I am town, and I am being exactly who I am every single time.

I don't even know why I'm giving you the time of day.

This act. So pro.
Plz you want Emmy?

Obviously scum gonna say they town.

[God Emperor Trudeau]

Such obvi scum
I'm gonna sleep

I would like to bet on this. I really would. $10 that your dumb as bricks and we are town.
-Mesk

[PowersThatBe]

This act. So pro.
Plz you want Emmy?

Obviously scum gonna say they town.

@MattZed Am I allowed to say they are not smart and that for two people with a lot of FM experience, their thought patterns are really shit. And that just like Spirits, they have no idea what the fuck they are talking about? Is that too far? Can you pm an approved list of how I can conduct myself ?Since I'm the only one being punished for bullshit everyone contributed to? I'd like that, I don't wanna break anymore rules or be mean, so matt can you do me a solid bro?

[deathworlds]

Roles that should not act:

Tailor
Janitor

Nothing good will happen from this, this will be the only TPR directing I will do this game.

[God Emperor Trudeau]

FUCK MY LIFE. WRONG ACCOUNT AGAIN. I just need to be signed into one at a time.

I DID NOT mean to post from my main.

[God Emperor Trudeau]

inb4 ptb is ejected from the game for accidentally posting on his main account for a second time.

[deathworlds]

So, who's willing to compromise?

I'm willing to vote cancer or yuki.

[Yukitaka Oni]

So, who's willing to compromise?

I'm willing to vote cancer or yuki.

I don't mind if I die. This game gave me cancer, if you can put me out of misery, that would be great since I don't have to spend almost 2 days reading these shitposting again

[Yukitaka Oni]

FUCK MY LIFE. WRONG ACCOUNT AGAIN. I just need to be signed into one at a time.

I DID NOT mean to post from my main.

......

[God Emperor Trudeau]

So, who's willing to compromise?

I'm willing to vote cancer or yuki.

We would like to vote Cancer.

[God Emperor Trudeau]

-vote Cancer

[Yukitaka Oni]

Maybe let the jailor do the job....

[deathworlds]

Maybe let the jailor do the job....

Would much likely like to town to agree on one thing, even if elephant does happen to be jailor.

[deathworlds]

-vote Yukitaka Oni

[Yukitaka Oni]

-vote Yukitaka Oni

Do it. Idgaf......this day 1 is shit show......I only can hope day 2 is less bullshit so I can contribute something

[Yukitaka Oni]

Although I have couple of reason to vote deathworld. But I believe he get himself trouble tonight for sure....

[Empathy17]

We are home and catching up.

~SW

[God Emperor Trudeau]

I think cancer would be a good lynch for 5 simple reasons:

1. They've painted us as scum since day 1. They're voting us because of ptb (me) being consistent with how I play every game. They're calling that scummy that I am the same as I always am, and I've always been town. This is confusing logic and doesn't make sense as a reason to vote someone.

2. They made an already tense situation worse and they've only fueled the fire in any argument people have been in.

3. They have made a long read list, but if you refer back to my post about it. You will see they wrote a lot but say very little.

4. When banana is town he is more actively trying to be a town leader, banana has taken a backseat in this game and is allowing chaos to break loose and is in fact contributing to distracting behavior.

5. Honestly, they've been here and super active and in all 141 of their post you will be hard pressed to find them actually contributing to anything. As they've said in their read list, they couldn't be bothered to read more than half the people in the game. What would be town motivated to not be bothered to read anyone in game?

[God Emperor Trudeau]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post657160


This is the post I was referring to.

[Yukitaka Oni]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post657160


This is the post I was referring to.

A bit disappointed with the read on me but.....still useful

[Frozen Angel]

I love how I asked Frozen to comment on the new part of the day and see if she still scum-read us, but she asked me to clarify and when I did she conveniently left for the rest of the day and her vote is still on us...

If we are lynched do not let that get away.

I'm going deeply back to see what i missed last night - as it was just a shuit show - around me RL last night and I just couldn't focus more than the way I was focusing

so I saw this "his comments in general" that I missed last night.

His comments didn't refuted a single concern I explained about your slot. DB tried to take down DW with saying "hey shit, your wrong all the time" and that would have been a good first reaction but it wasn't what you did back there was it? and using my comment about how I find DW's push on you because of the slip thing is not something he should be comfortable on, is ok I guess but that wasn't even slightly related to why I voted you. so what do you want me to comment on?

and he called me tunnely - but I'm certainly not that. and he called meta reasons that I can't see their traces yet - so I can't go with that or deny it.

talking about that in general I said I am considering other wagons - as I'm not sold about you , but then there is nothing new about the other slots I was intrested to see more reactions from (whad and RLVG) - so I kept my vote on my strongest scumread atm. what about that is something you want others to not let that get away?

I'm sure I asked you about your Whad vote. I can't find your response if you answered it - if not answer it now please.

[Frozen Angel]

Do you have any good reasons for Town-reading him? If so can I see it?

Did you see how he interacted in discussion of his vote with me and how he conveniently left when people started to lose interest in my train and Darkness appeared?

This is the closest thing I saw reagrding whad from you

I don't understand the first part of your second question - please elaborate

[Frozen Angel]

Um, so Cancer's only thing against us is that ptb (me) is playing consistent with how I played town in every game I've played. Thinks me just being an asshole is somehow a fucking gosu meta strat that a scum me thought of, and now i'm trying to mislynch people... Yawn. And SJ accuses me of "Conspiracy theories" ...so the archon I got in a fight with is not voting me and accusing me of scum but has nothing to say about mostly everyone. I'd like to point out, that Arrow did this as scum as well. Basically gave everyone null reads except for a few people that thought he was scum and some of his teammates to make it look blended.

Essentially, this shouldn't even warrant my attention because it's nothing more than an OMGUS vote. They have nothing credible to act on. Unknown posted two whole lists of our quotes and I went through and refuted everything, he had nothing to say back to me about any of that, and instead used me being "mean" as strategy and then reported me to the host and I'm now getting a 3 point infraction because unknown used the "appeal to emotion" to dance around what i said back. Which is whatever. Matt knows how I feel about it.

Moving on though. During my explosive fight with ika-wolf, Cancer sat by and fueled the fire more. No one has really pressed them about this and why a town would want to contribute to a fight that really wasn't on topic at all. Banana know's he can get under people's skin and FA called him out on it. Also, can you trust this archon? One of them is a serial liar! Basically, I think this whole little "read list" is a joke and a way to just vote us.

It's not like we've been soft claiming our role for PAGES now, or anything.

I can't trust banana if I'm write who he is and I admit - that I really feel that will be a good slot for me to do my first policy on for banana

Ignore my above sentence - I'm not that kinda person - policy is stupid and I'm no stupid. maybe just ignoring him works better.

[Empathy17]

-vote Cancer

I've made a few posts about why I don't like them, they've done a lot of fluff posting, I don't like their reaction to my argument with PTB, they have a very empty readslist with almost no townreads and a hell of a lot of nulls, and I don't think their case on GET has any merit. PTB is acting exactly like his last town game and I'd be hard pressed to think scum would act the way he is this game when it draws a lot of attention and maybe even gets a PL on them for it.

I do have to do some more reading to get more reads. Whad is someone I need to look into more and also yzb. I think GET is town based on behavior, FB is likely town, I'm leaning that way on FA and deathworlds and maybe even Grylander. Yuki and RLVG are null. Elephant has improved somewhat in play and I'm less sure they are scum. If Unknown gets easily flustered as town under pressure, that's something that has happened to me many times as town in games. Iced is also completely null.

~SW

[Frozen Angel]

Do it. Idgaf......this day 1 is shit show......I only can hope day 2 is less bullshit so I can contribute something

why you want me dead Yuki?

[Frozen Angel]

-vote Cancer

I've made a few posts about why I don't like them, they've done a lot of fluff posting, I don't like their reaction to my argument with PTB, they have a very empty readslist with almost no townreads and a hell of a lot of nulls, and I don't think their case on GET has any merit. PTB is acting exactly like his last town game and I'd be hard pressed to think scum would act the way he is this game when it draws a lot of attention and maybe even gets a PL on them for it.

I do have to do some more reading to get more reads. Whad is someone I need to look into more and also yzb. I think GET is town based on behavior, FB is likely town, I'm leaning that way on FA and deathworlds and maybe even Grylander. Yuki and RLVG are null. Elephant has improved somewhat in play and I'm less sure they are scum. If Unknown gets easily flustered as town under pressure, that's something that has happened to me many times as town in games. Iced is also completely null.

~SW

what Ika thinks about me?

I'm full cought up and I won't do policies. what is scummy about cancer fluff?

[Frozen Angel]

I don't like whad wagon composition. I don't like the way yzb made a vanity wagon on RLVG without making a subtle case for him - orasking others to vote him. Yuki is acting like people in MS that I will loose the game to them if their scum and there is nothing to do about it. GET is actually townish and consistant in every single point they made about the elephant vote or whatever else and I didn't like Elephant or cancer whatever - not saying I like cancer policied thats 100% another story. and the rest didn't do things that i want to note atm

[Frozen Angel]

Its EOD

where are everyone?

[deathworlds]

-vote Cancer

Elephant's off the hook for now.

[Firebringer]

I am here young warrior.
But I think I am not long for this world, as I must go hone my body (exercise), for I am a lazy butt.

How are you this fine evening young disciple?
How is the youngest warrior from clan angel, young ice cubicle?

~Genji

[Firebringer]

I can't trust banana if I'm write who he is and I admit - that I really feel that will be a good slot for me to do my first policy on for banana

Ignore my above sentence - I'm not that kinda person - policy is stupid and I'm no stupid. maybe just ignoring him works better.

Warrior angel, what do you mean by this highlighted part.
Are you referring to someone from MS?
Banana isn't from MS.

~Genji

[Empathy17]

what Ika thinks about me?

I'm full cought up and I won't do policies. what is scummy about cancer fluff?

It is what most of their first few posts consisted of and it adds nothing but noise. However, that's really not the only reason for the scumread. I was just looking for some substance along with the fluff and didn't find much until they gave the reads I didn't like. I also hated their role in the arguing I did with PTB.

I actually asked ika to talk to you some (he's busy but will be back in about 10min) because he's played with you more than I have and that might be useful.

~SW

[Firebringer]

I think cancer would be a good lynch for 5 simple reasons:

1. They've painted us as scum since day 1. They're voting us because of ptb (me) being consistent with how I play every game. They're calling that scummy that I am the same as I always am, and I've always been town. This is confusing logic and doesn't make sense as a reason to vote someone.

2. They made an already tense situation worse and they've only fueled the fire in any argument people have been in.

3. They have made a long read list, but if you refer back to my post about it. You will see they wrote a lot but say very little.

4. When banana is town he is more actively trying to be a town leader, banana has taken a backseat in this game and is allowing chaos to break loose and is in fact contributing to distracting behavior.

5. Honestly, they've been here and super active and in all 141 of their post you will be hard pressed to find them actually contributing to anything. As they've said in their read list, they couldn't be bothered to read more than half the people in the game. What would be town motivated to not be bothered to read anyone in game?

A lot of these aren't true, though I do agree their scumread on you is very very bad.
Like 4 isn't really true, they didn't lead town in Spirits, and they were town.
Kind of agree with 5 on various things, theres way more shit thrown than what seems like actual scumhunting, including their read on me.

~Soldier

I would be okay with Cancer lynch, but I don't really think they are scum. I prefer my scumread Whad.

[Frozen Angel]

No just get over that Fire , Its not discussable - I shouldn't talk about it at all - sorry

we both are fine!

@Whad if you beleive Elephant was misrepping you why you started a vanity wagon on yzb in that manner?

[Firebringer]

Young warrior angel, we need to condense the wagons at this time.
Please vote Cancer or Whad.

Prefer whad, personally.
Elephant wagon isn't a possibility.

~Genji

[Frozen Angel]

It is what most of their first few posts consisted of and it adds nothing but noise. However, that's really not the only reason for the scumread. I was just looking for some substance along with the fluff and didn't find much until they gave the reads I didn't like. I also hated their role in the arguing I did with PTB.

I actually asked ika to talk to you some (he's busy but will be back in about 10min) because he's played with you more than I have and that might be useful.

~SW

I believe the read list was from the head that explicitly claimed they don't give a fuck about game before (that I think is banana) so having so many nulls in that is not actually alarming me.

[Firebringer]

-vote Cancer

I've made a few posts about why I don't like them, they've done a lot of fluff posting, I don't like their reaction to my argument with PTB, they have a very empty readslist with almost no townreads and a hell of a lot of nulls, and I don't think their case on GET has any merit. PTB is acting exactly like his last town game and I'd be hard pressed to think scum would act the way he is this game when it draws a lot of attention and maybe even gets a PL on them for it.

I do have to do some more reading to get more reads. Whad is someone I need to look into more and also yzb. I think GET is town based on behavior, FB is likely town, I'm leaning that way on FA and deathworlds and maybe even Grylander. Yuki and RLVG are null. Elephant has improved somewhat in play and I'm less sure they are scum. If Unknown gets easily flustered as town under pressure, that's something that has happened to me many times as town in games. Iced is also completely null.

~SW

Sorry! but is Iced in this game?
He isn't on the player list....
I see no announcements on replacements.

Also what are you townreading about grylander?

I like that he is more active this game!
But he seems to be just complaining and I take that as a null.

~Mei

[Firebringer]

Effective immediately, @Iced_Monopoly has replaced ThePaladin.

Sorry!
I completely missed this!
Matt must have forgotten to update op!

I will sure miss the fact I won't be able to play with paladin
BUT ICED IS FUN!

~Mei

[Empathy17]

what Ika thinks about me?

I'm full cought up and I won't do policies. what is scummy about cancer fluff?

i think you are town. however the reason is hard to explain. ive told silverwolf what i think and she might be able to elaborate better then me

[Frozen Angel]

It is what most of their first few posts consisted of and it adds nothing but noise. However, that's really not the only reason for the scumread. I was just looking for some substance along with the fluff and didn't find much until they gave the reads I didn't like. I also hated their role in the arguing I did with PTB.

I actually asked ika to talk to you some (he's busy but will be back in about 10min) because he's played with you more than I have and that might be useful.

~SW

I believe the read list was from the head that explicitly claimed they don't give a fuck about game before (that I think is banana) so having so many nulls in that is not actually alarming me.

and I'm looking forward to that

pedit : I don't like the wagon on whad. It occured to me that elephant is voting whad because its the second wagon - and whatever he tells is try to justify that read.

and I don't even remember when Gyrlander voted whad.

why you scum read whad again?

and Ice replced in paladian slot

[Empathy17]

I believe the read list was from the head that explicitly claimed they don't give a fuck about game before (that I think is banana) so having so many nulls in that is not actually alarming me.

Right but they are both capable of being town and showing it without doing a ton of work so this "idgaf" attitude looks fake as hell. ika and I just modded a game they were in where they posted a lot more and put in effort as town.

Also take a look at their case on GET. I mean, they say they are scum because they are behaving exactly like they did last game when they are town and are now putting on an act because PTB said last game his play was like that on purpose. It's a bad scumread and doesn't follow a logical train of thought.

Plus other reasons I gave about their behavior during the arguments, awkward fluff posting, etc.

~SW

[Firebringer]

Well, I must concede to this then since I won't be around for next hour for EOD.
I guess this will have to do:

-vote Cancer

Farewell warriors, I must go train the body and mind.

~Genji

[Frozen Angel]

i think you are town. however the reason is hard to explain. ive told silverwolf what i think and she might be able to elaborate better then me

what do you think about cancer ika?

I apriciate your response SW but I want to hear it from Ika as well.

[Frozen Angel]

I'll be back soon

Yuki I see your online! I won't give you chocolates unless you say why you want me dead.

[Empathy17]

Also what are you townreading about grylander?

I like that he is more active this game!
But he seems to be just complaining and I take that as a null.

~Mei

It's pretty mild and mostly just tone of his posts and gut feel.

~SW

[Empathy17]

what do you think about cancer ika?

I apriciate your response SW but I want to hear it from Ika as well.

i would lynch them (silver is already voting) they have not done any scum hunting nor anything that i consider town from them when things were going toxix as well they kinda just sat there instead of trying to stop i

[Empathy17]

oh and if anyon ever sees letters at end of my posts it cus my keyboard/sote os weird and needs to have something for me to put a space