S-FM 227 Lady Gaga

[Whad]

I stated this earlier and you pointing it out allows me to reemphasize how trash I think town is if they end up lynching me. At this point, I will play like the best townie here to get cult'd and win with them. You guys blow if you lynch me.

If you are a hater then your only shot now is to solve the game for the town before you get lynched. You'll lose if you don't become pro-town and solve the game for us since we are all trash townies. Myself being the biggest trash bag of all.

[Mesk514]

Whad bb, I love you. Although I miss the Sia you

[Whad]

Why do you think I've been fanned? Because my not wanting to lynch fury fits with your gaga strategy?

You or The Lawyer seem like the best choices to fan because I think that Gaga would not want both of you around at LYLO or MYLO. Therefore Gaga has to kill one of you off via fanning.

[Whad]

Whad bb, I love you. Although I miss the Sia you

Thank you! Please post some fans to prove you're still town thanks.

Also what do you think of my thought that Gaga would fan the most widely townread/least influence-able voters in the early game and keep the scummiest low key players around for MYLO/LYLO?

[PowersThatBe]

You or The Lawyer seem like the best choices to fan because I think that Gaga would not want both of you around at LYLO or MYLO. Therefore Gaga has to kill one of you off via fanning.

AWWWW are you saying I cant be tamed =) (miley reference)

[Mesk514]

In my high regarded humble opinion. I don't ptb would be converted because there's many people here that have played games with ptb to know when ptb is off from his normal game.

[Mesk514]

I actually have a little guide for you all.
IF PTB ISN'T OVER THE TOP THEN HE'S SCUM. THAT'S THAT

[Fury]

Btw, scum probably wants me dead because they know when MYLO or LYLO time comes, I'm going to ream their assholes.

[Fury]

I accept my fate if town decides to penetrate me and thus themselves simultaneously.

[Fury]

I also won't be employing this strategy if I play another cult game. lol.

[PowersThatBe]

I actually have a little guide for you all.
IF PTB ISN'T OVER THE TOP THEN HE'S SCUM. THAT'S THAT

BITCH HOW YOU GONNA FUCKING THROW MY META OUT THERE. WHAT IF I'M CONVERTED TOMORROW.

P.S. I'VE NEVER ROLLED SCUM. ... ON SC2MAFIA.COM THAT IS.... DUN DUN DUN.

[Fury]

Btw, whad or trine is converted tomorrow. Hopefully me saying this will throw off a conversion on one of them. I will say Sinon, Suntax, Lawyer are your list of possible scum. Ignore everyone else.

[Fury]

I'll go figure out which one of those 3 are gaga now. @Whad , suntax, sinon, lawyer. 2 of them are scum.

[Fury]

didn't mean to include you in that list if it looks like it, whad.


Suntax > sinon > lawyer for list of most likely to least likely scum. Now hammer me and lynch suntax so I don't get converted and lose.

[PowersThatBe]

I'll throw this out there.

Fury scares the fucking shit out of me.

If I were scum, I'd be pushing his lynch for 2 reasons.

1. He's a loose cannon, I wouldn't give gaga a loose cannon like that for fear of him accidentally making a connection back to the lord of the pokerface.

2. I wouldn't wanna convert him until it was almost a lock to win, and keeping him around that long as a town player is super dangerous, because he will probably find the scum. He destroyed everyone in April fools.

Maybe i'm metaing him too much. And if people think i'm the fan now because I don't sign off on lynching people I know I can rely on to actually scum hunt later, then that's what it is. I don't care. I just want to be the voice of reason here. I've played fury's wifom before, and I actually found the scum day 1 in Masquerade Madness, but because I was trying so hard to make myself an unconvertible target, I was mislynched because people thought I was shitting the bed.

When I actually figured out who the scum was, and town ALMOST lost.

So I see what he's attempting, but I also recognize why you all wont just take my word for it.

[PowersThatBe]

You or The Lawyer seem like the best choices to fan because I think that Gaga would not want both of you around at LYLO or MYLO. Therefore Gaga has to kill one of you off via fanning.

What did you think about my last two highlighted points on the lawyer? Did you read my response to her wall of text?

I put two lines in big bold. Check em out. You might be on to something.
@Whad

[Fury]

I'll throw this out there.

Fury scares the fucking shit out of me.

If I were scum, I'd be pushing his lynch for 2 reasons.

1. He's a loose cannon, I wouldn't give gaga a loose cannon like that for fear of him accidentally making a connection back to the lord of the pokerface.

2. I wouldn't wanna convert him until it was almost a lock to win, and keeping him around that long as a town player is super dangerous, because he will probably find the scum. He destroyed everyone in April fools.

Maybe i'm metaing him too much. And if people think i'm the fan now because I don't sign off on lynching people I know I can rely on to actually scum hunt later, then that's what it is. I don't care. I just want to be the voice of reason here. I've played fury's wifom before, and I actually found the scum day 1 in Masquerade Madness, but because I was trying so hard to make myself an unconvertible target, I was mislynched because people thought I was shitting the bed.

When I actually figured out who the scum was, and town ALMOST lost.

So I see what he's attempting, but I also recognize why you all wont just take my word for it.

I appreciate the helpful words. I've townread everyone except for those 2 (since the START of day 2. Even day 1 I didn't like sinon).

By POE, suntax/sinon are gaga/fan. I'm not sure which is which, but I know 100% that Sinon has changed his play. Suntax has not. If you guys think suntax could be scum, then lynch him. If he's town, then fucking string me up by my dick tomorrow.

[Whad]

I'll throw this out there.

Fury scares the fucking shit out of me.

If I were scum, I'd be pushing his lynch for 2 reasons.

1. He's a loose cannon, I wouldn't give gaga a loose cannon like that for fear of him accidentally making a connection back to the lord of the pokerface.

2. I wouldn't wanna convert him until it was almost a lock to win, and keeping him around that long as a town player is super dangerous, because he will probably find the scum. He destroyed everyone in April fools.

Maybe i'm metaing him too much. And if people think i'm the fan now because I don't sign off on lynching people I know I can rely on to actually scum hunt later, then that's what it is. I don't care. I just want to be the voice of reason here. I've played fury's wifom before, and I actually found the scum day 1 in Masquerade Madness, but because I was trying so hard to make myself an unconvertible target, I was mislynched because people thought I was shitting the bed.

When I actually figured out who the scum was, and town ALMOST lost.

So I see what he's attempting, but I also recognize why you all wont just take my word for it.

Ok, so since you town read me. Do you think Suntax AND Sinon are both scum pushing for Fury, riding my coattails? I think that at most, one scum is on Fury right now. Gaga and Fan have daychat and would probably want to coordinate their votes to look uncoordinated. If you had to choose between Suntax and Sinon as scum which would it be?

[Fury]

@Whad , @The Lawyer , @Trine , @ccantman , @TwentyTwo

if suntax is town, then lynch me tomorrow. My 2 scum reads (sinon and suntax) have been pushing my lynch ever since I outed them. Don't fall in line with scum.

[Whad]

Ok, so since you town read me. Do you think Suntax AND Sinon are both scum pushing for Fury, riding my coattails? I think that at most, one scum is on Fury right now. Gaga and Fan have daychat and would probably want to coordinate their votes to look uncoordinated. If you had to choose between Suntax and Sinon as scum which would it be?

This is in the universe where I suspend my disbelief and hypothetically Fury is a hater.

[Whad]

@Whad , @The Lawyer , @Trine , @ccantman , @TwentyTwo

if suntax is town, then lynch me tomorrow. My 2 scum reads (sinon and suntax) have been pushing my lynch ever since I outed them. Don't fall in line with scum.

If you are hater, why would both Gaga and Fan both be vote coordinated and vote you? I think at most one of Suntax and Sinon is scum.

[Fury]

Whad is 100% town, which is why I've called him trash and not scum. If I had to pick the most likely between suntax and sinon, then I'd have to think and go back.

[Suntax]

If fury flips hater then I'm number 1 suspect. But If it is a hater flip vote 22

[PowersThatBe]

Ok, so since you town read me. Do you think Suntax AND Sinon are both scum pushing for Fury, riding my coattails? I think that at most, one scum is on Fury right now. Gaga and Fan have daychat and would probably want to coordinate their votes to look uncoordinated. If you had to choose between Suntax and Sinon as scum which would it be?

Did you not read my read list earlier?

[Fury]

If you are hater, why would both Gaga and Fan both be vote coordinated and vote you? I think at most one of Suntax and Sinon is scum.

Sometimes if you think something is too obviously scummy, then it can't be used by scum. That is a fallacy. Something you're considering with them, but not with me frankly.

[Fury]

If fury flips hater then I'm number 1 suspect. But If it is a hater flip vote 22

LMFAO "if fury flips hater, then vote 22" yea because 1 more mislynch after me ends the fuckin game lol.

[Suntax]

@Whad , @The Lawyer , @Trine , @ccantman , @TwentyTwo

if suntax is town, then lynch me tomorrow. My 2 scum reads (sinon and suntax) have been pushing my lynch ever since I outed them. Don't fall in line with scum.

I did say there is a small part of me who.is like, let them lynch me and make a point
is saying lynch me as a hater gamethrowing? Even if its making a point.

[Sinon]

Thank you! Please post some fans to prove you're still town thanks.

Also what do you think of my thought that Gaga would fan the most widely townread/least influence-able voters in the early game and keep the scummiest low key players around for MYLO/LYLO?

I also had the same thought for who Gaga would fan. 2 for 2. But interesting, I would think low key meant townread/least influence-able (more the latter). Like a wallflower.

[PowersThatBe]

@Whad

Lynches I would support today:


1. @ccantman
2. @Suntax

Lynches I would be hesitant to support today:

1. @TwentyTwo (at most he is fan)
2. @Sinon
3. @Unknown1234
4. @The Lawyer

Lynches I refuse to support today:

1. @Trine *LOL*
2. @Fury
3. @Whad



Ok leaving now for work. see yas later

You could be right. I assure you though, i'm not riled up. I just find it interesting the method of "play" they both just used. I think they both might of slipped, or it's possible 22 is innocent and just a shitty person overall.

I'm being critical but as you know me, I like to consider every possible rabbit hole. I find those two to have the strongest scum holes (hehe) to travel down atm.

I'll post a read list:

Potential town:


1. Whad (mostly set up spec) no way gyrl would replace out the gaga, unless POD never submitted a night action. Still you get replace shield for now. However, you have also been keeping town on task and pushing your scum reads, and you are casting somewhat of a wide net in terms of potential targets, while focusing in on some of the scummier people.
2. Unknown (mesk) I believe she is playing her typical town apathy lemme sheep ptb and fury voting style. I suspect her to be more contributing once we have a scum flip or whenever someone triggers her lol.
3. Fury not as strong as previous iterations of fury play, however, like I said before, I believe he is just trying to WIFOM his way into never getting converted.

(i WILL say I am biased against all 3 of my town reads, because I've seen each of them play town, and for me, they are very consistent with their normal town play. I know cross game meta is bad, but IDC it's day 1 part 2 in my book)

NULL/NAI posts:


1. The lawyer - - while she is tunneling 22 a bit, she is also trying to place interactions on fury. TBH, i think fury is low hanging fruit, and anyone really pushing him is either just not understanding his style of play or is trying to get a ML. The lawyer hasn't made a super strong caae against fury, but as I said earlier, I see how she came to the conclusions that she came to. Initially I wasn't fully supportive of her vote on 22. I don't agree that 22 is Gaga, and therefore am not going to vote him unless we're at some sort of impasse and need a lynch. I put her as null or nai because she hasn't posted enough for me to consider scum motivation, but, also hasn't scum hunted hard enough looking at everyone to give me a town read either. So right now, I'm baffled by her. It's probably because shes literally brand new and this is her first play on the site. Unless she's secretly @Calix or bC LOL.

2. Me: Because, I don't like only one person being null...and I'm very conflicted as a real life fan of Lady GaGA, have to be a hater and lynch my queen is just very confusing to me. Also, I'd like to give people more reason to suspect me, so I can shut them down, like idiot 1 and idiot 2. <3

Potential Scum:

1. Sinon would be a good fan choice imo because he comes off inherently scummy, based on a game I played with him, where we all SWORE he was scummiest of all scum and he flipped town. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was day 2 cannon fodder for the scum. He's a perfect shield. I do not think he is gaga, but his circle jerk with fury and whad seems to me a bit odd, and just doesn't allow me to read him as town because I read both of them as town atm.

2. Ccantman: Lady gaga suspect, reasons stated above

3. 22: Fan, reasons stated above.

4. Suntax his posts are shitposts, but as I said earlier, I feel like they're forced shit posts. He admitted he was tired, so that could be it. I slightly scum read him, but not not enough to put him in null and not more than the other two who I might be tunneling, but IDK it's day 1 again, so who fucking knows. None of his posts have been really that game related though. I mean some, but most of them are just dumb bullshit. Like his question to the host "can I call everyone cunts?" LOL what? Could be another fury-esk strat, but could also be mirroring fury so we inherently link them both as town? IDK, never seen him play, so for now, I'm going with my gut and putting him in my scum pile until he proves otherwise.

[Fury]

Oh hai.

Forgot who originally posed the question, but four town reads for me are: ccantman, The Lawyer, Trine, and Unknown.

Unknown1234 - null
Sinon - town~
Trine - town
Fury - absolutely scum-ptious!
TwentyTwo - neutral/slightly scummy
The Lawyer - somewhat scummy
powerofdeath/Whad - ?
ccantman - town
Suntax - slightly scummy

hm... so between day 1 and 2 (very little time in between) 2 town reads changed to be null/scum. Also, I noticed Sinon was tunneling me from day 1. Considering it's his first game he may not be fan and may just be bad.

[Whad]

I'll throw this out there.

Fury scares the fucking shit out of me.

If I were scum, I'd be pushing his lynch for 2 reasons.

1. He's a loose cannon, I wouldn't give gaga a loose cannon like that for fear of him accidentally making a connection back to the lord of the pokerface.

2. I wouldn't wanna convert him until it was almost a lock to win, and keeping him around that long as a town player is super dangerous, because he will probably find the scum. He destroyed everyone in April fools.

Maybe i'm metaing him too much. And if people think i'm the fan now because I don't sign off on lynching people I know I can rely on to actually scum hunt later, then that's what it is. I don't care. I just want to be the voice of reason here. I've played fury's wifom before, and I actually found the scum day 1 in Masquerade Madness, but because I was trying so hard to make myself an unconvertible target, I was mislynched because people thought I was shitting the bed.

When I actually figured out who the scum was, and town ALMOST lost.

So I see what he's attempting, but I also recognize why you all wont just take my word for it.

Tbh this post makes you look really bad Trine. It makes you look like a Fan who knows that Fury is not Gaga and you want to gain towncred for not jumping on a mislynch. If you were sincere about wanting to avoid a potential mislynch, you'd put up some other reasonable targets and like REALLY push them instead of just sitting in the background being like "oh well I disagree with this but will not try to lead my own countertrain to avoid what in the mind of Trine is a certain mislynch"

You (Trine) or The Lawyer was the best Fan target N1.

[Sinon]

Ok, so since you town read me. Do you think Suntax AND Sinon are both scum pushing for Fury, riding my coattails? I think that at most, one scum is on Fury right now. Gaga and Fan have daychat and would probably want to coordinate their votes to look uncoordinated. If you had to choose between Suntax and Sinon as scum which would it be?

Riding your coattails? You're coming to the same conclusions I've already had. Please.

[Fury]

Maybe Sinon isn't a fan and is just terrible. I need to think more.

[Fury]

Actually, I think Sinon is town

[PowersThatBe]

Ok, so since you town read me. Do you think Suntax AND Sinon are both scum pushing for Fury, riding my coattails? I think that at most, one scum is on Fury right now. Gaga and Fan have daychat and would probably want to coordinate their votes to look uncoordinated. If you had to choose between Suntax and Sinon as scum which would it be?

I mean both of them are pretty much buddying you hardcore. Sinon is hard because I still inherently scum read him lol.

If I had to pick, I would definitely lynch suntax over sinon.

[Fury]

Riding your coattails? You're coming to the same conclusions I've already had. Please.

Yes. Can you acknowledge that you may be tunneling me, however?

[Fury]

Actually, I'm changing my read on sinon to be null. He is just tunneling me, but he isn't scum (imo). I'd much rather get suntax over him.

[Whad]

Sometimes if you think something is too obviously scummy, then it can't be used by scum. That is a fallacy. Something you're considering with them, but not with me frankly.

Well another part of why I don't think Sinon/Suntax is the Gaga/Fan team is because neither Sinon nor Suntax makes sense as a N1 Fan pick over TheLawyer or Trine. And tbh both The Lawyer and Trine have done things today that make me suspicious of them as a fan which only reinforces my belief that the Fan is not among Sinon/Suntax.

[Suntax]

Somebody answer my question
is suceeding to a lynch, a mislybch agsinst the town gamethrowing

If I said everybody lynch me, then i flip hater to make a point that I was a hater all along as a form of tribute lynch, is that gamethrowing?

[Fury]

Well another part of why I don't think Sinon/Suntax is the Gaga/Fan team is because neither Sinon nor Suntax makes sense as a N1 Fan pick over TheLawyer or Trine. And tbh both The Lawyer and Trine have done things today that make me suspicious of them as a fan which only reinforces my belief that the Fan is not among Sinon/Suntax.

I see we have just came to the same conclusion. I do not find Sinon scum anymore.

[Whad]

What did you think about my last two highlighted points on the lawyer? Did you read my response to her wall of text?

I put two lines in big bold. Check em out. You might be on to something.
@Whad

Tbh your big rainbow wall of text was way too hard for me to read. I couldn't figure out what was posted by The Lawyer and what was added commentary by you without going back to The Lawyer's original post which I couldn't be bothered to do. Sorry.

I prefer to add commentary outside of the quote tags for clarity.

[Sinon]

I appreciate the helpful words. I've townread everyone except for those 2 (since the START of day 2. Even day 1 I didn't like sinon).

By POE, suntax/sinon are gaga/fan. I'm not sure which is which, but I know 100% that Sinon has changed his play. Suntax has not. If you guys think suntax could be scum, then lynch him. If he's town, then fucking string me up by my dick tomorrow.

You say I changed I play but offer no evidence. I'm playing how I played in the only other FM game I've played, and I've already said this. Put up or shut up.

[Sinon]

You say I changed I play but offer no evidence. I'm playing how I played in the only other FM game I've played, and I've already said this. Put up or shut up.

WHERE I WAS mislynched I should clarify!!

[PowersThatBe]

Tbh this post makes you look really bad Trine. It makes you look like a Fan who knows that Fury is not Gaga and you want to gain towncred for not jumping on a mislynch. If you were sincere about wanting to avoid a potential mislynch, you'd put up some other reasonable targets and like REALLY push them instead of just sitting in the background being like "oh well I disagree with this but will not try to lead my own countertrain to avoid what in the mind of Trine is a certain mislynch"

You (Trine) or The Lawyer was the best Fan target N1.

Certainly that is true.

But let me put it this way. I don't know, I pushed suntax earlier, I've written up a large post about the lawyer, I offered credible evidnece against both ccantman and 22. EVERYTHING I SAY IS SHOT DOWN.

So what do you want me to do? Everyone is pretty much afk when I've been getting off work. I can only push, and then people push back when I'm gone.

Sure, it could seem like I'm sitting back. But if I was actually sitting back, would I get into it with ccantman and go to the lengths that I have? Would i post extended read lists and offer 2 valid targets? Would I literally go and read all of the lawyers wall post and dissect it? Seriously whad?

You're the one driving the conversation. If you want fury out of the way, then get him out of the way. I'm playing to my win con and that's to lynch scum, I don't believe fury is scum, y'all are all fucking tunneling him to death.

So if that makes me seem like I'm suddenly not as towny as you thought I was 25 minutes ago.

It also fucking triggers me that ccantman was basically buddying the fuck out of 22 today, and was inconsistent as hell, and yet everyone is like "idk why trine is pushing him" "hes sooo consistent"

It's like we're playing 2 completely different games here.

[Suntax]

Somebody answer my question
is suceeding to a lynch, a mislybch agsinst the town gamethrowing

If I said everybody lynch me, then i flip hater to make a point that I was a hater all along as a form of tribute lynch, is that gamethrowing?

LEGIT QUESTION NEEDS ANSWERING
@Alright

[Sinon]

I see we have just came to the same conclusion. I do not find Sinon scum anymore.

LOL I didn't see this, maybe I should have just left well enough alone!

[Fury]

I suspect that Lawyer was converted. Her activity day 2 pales in comparison to her activity day 1. She was trying day 1 really, really hard. Today she has been shit posting mostly. I'd do the same thing if I knew it was my last day. Also,

Overextended fluff and buddying

-vote Suntax

-vote suntax

[PowersThatBe]

Tbh your big rainbow wall of text was way too hard for me to read. I couldn't figure out what was posted by The Lawyer and what was added commentary by you without going back to The Lawyer's original post which I couldn't be bothered to do. Sorry.

I prefer to add commentary outside of the quote tags for clarity.

BRO I LITERALLY SIGNED EACH RESPONSE WITH -PTB

Whad you're throwing around a lot of accusations.

I remember I blindly town read you last game and you turned out to be witch.

You've now put the target on 5 different people's back while still holding onto this "fury is scum mantra"

[Suntax]

Certainly that is true.

But let me put it this way. I don't know, I pushed suntax earlier, I've written up a large post about the lawyer, I offered credible evidnece against both ccantman and 22. EVERYTHING I SAY IS SHOT DOWN.

So what do you want me to do? Everyone is pretty much afk when I've been getting off work. I can only push, and then people push back when I'm gone.

Sure, it could seem like I'm sitting back. But if I was actually sitting back, would I get into it with ccantman and go to the lengths that I have? Would i post extended read lists and offer 2 valid targets? Would I literally go and read all of the lawyers wall post and dissect it? Seriously whad?

You're the one driving the conversation. If you want fury out of the way, then get him out of the way. I'm playing to my win con and that's to lynch scum, I don't believe fury is scum, y'all are all fucking tunneling him to death.

So if that makes me seem like I'm suddenly not as towny as you thought I was 25 minutes ago.

It also fucking triggers me that ccantman was basically buddying the fuck out of 22 today, and was inconsistent as hell, and yet everyone is like "idk why trine is pushing him" "hes sooo consistent"

It's like we're playing 2 completely different games here.

Would you like some snowflake cream
DO YOU SUCK DICK PRIVATE PILE

Have you seem full metal jacket

[Fury]

Sinon, I don't read games I'm not part of. I don't know what you're referring to.