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    Question WC3Mafia

    Now that Warcraft 3 Reforged has been released a few hours ago, I have been watching Grubby play the Campaign on Twitch.

    But it got me thinking about -Mafia-.
    To my knowledge, WC3 has the same Mafia as SC2 has, is that correct?
    Maybe @Frinckles or @Elixir knows?

    Does anyone know anything more? Is it being played? Is it being moderated? How similar is it? And most importantly - does it have a prospect of forming a new Forum Mafia community?

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    Re: WC3Mafia

    @powerofdeath
    Was hoping you could give some answers?
    I know you played Mafia on WC3.
    Found your thread from last year: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...th-v1-29-patch

    Edit: ok nvm you already answered.
    Quote Originally Posted by powerofdeath View Post
    12 players, less roles, less customization, like you couldnt choose how many ammo a vig would have, and certain mechanics are different, like bus driver cant bus themselves, etc.

    meta is different in general

    much easier to cheat, and you can get away with it because no staff team to moderate the community, but hosts have the ability to kick out trolls in the game anyway
    Ok so Mafia there is bad/dead and there is no prospect of WC3Mafia ever coming in existence.

    It's kinda sad though that the map editor is so different. Makes it impossible to let's say combine this community with the non existent theirs.
    Last edited by OzyWho; January 28th, 2020 at 09:01 PM.

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    Re: WC3Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    @powerofdeath
    Was hoping you could give some answers?
    I know you played Mafia on WC3.
    Found your thread from last year: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...th-v1-29-patch

    Edit: ok nvm you already answered.


    Ok so Mafia there is bad/dead and there is no prospect of WC3Mafia ever coming in existence.

    It's kinda sad though that the map editor is so different. Makes it impossible to let's say combine this community with the non existent theirs.
    Sc2 is free. They can join whenever they'd like.

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    Re: WC3Mafia

    Dark Revenant's original Mafia Map is still floating around WC3.
    We've got no plans on updating that map to work on reforged. It is less feature complete than sc2 and as stated by Frinckles before you cant just open up a galaxy map in that editor and hope to have a good time. Pretty sure DR said he doesnt want it there anyway.
    Photobucket in 2017
    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    if you have elixir to contend with gl hf

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    Re: WC3Mafia

    Well guys, grab a seat and let me tell you about WC3 mafia.

    It's awful. Terrible UI, day 1 lynches, not a lot of customization. Oh also if I'm not mistaken days can take forever if the town doesn't lynch someone or skip the day. Oh and no trials/defense.
    I have no use for these bloodless minnows. Bring me a prey that will sate my bloodlust. I hunger.

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    Re: WC3Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by MrMostache View Post
    Well guys, grab a seat and let me tell you about WC3 mafia.

    It's awful. Terrible UI, day 1 lynches, not a lot of customization. Oh also if I'm not mistaken days can take forever if the town doesn't lynch someone or skip the day. Oh and no trials/defense.
    Hey, D1 lynches and no trials is pretty good and standard. Those features are in the game because people usually can't restrict themselves on lynches (and maybe because trial is fun sometimes).
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: WC3Mafia

    We've also just been made Aware of blizzards new custom map policy in war3 reforged. If we were to even think about making anything for that platform, not only would blizzard get exclusive ownership of it but we'd get banned for using 3rd party ip anyway.

    The new new policy is definitely designed because blizzard are still super angry that dota and the multi billion dollar moba market started in their game and they got fuck all from it - even losing the naming lawsuit against valve. As far as we know this only applies to reforged and can't be really retroactively applied to sc - but it's something to keep an eye on
    Photobucket in 2017
    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    if you have elixir to contend with gl hf

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    Re: WC3Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Elixir View Post
    We've also just been made Aware of blizzards new custom map policy in war3 reforged. If we were to even think about making anything for that platform, not only would blizzard get exclusive ownership of it but we'd get banned for using 3rd party ip anyway.

    The new new policy is definitely designed because blizzard are still super angry that dota and the multi billion dollar moba market started in their game and they got fuck all from it - even losing the naming lawsuit against valve. As far as we know this only applies to reforged and can't be really retroactively applied to sc - but it's something to keep an eye on
    Can you elaborate on the highlighted part?
    Does someone own the IP of all mafia games or something?
    I don't quite get it. There are many different versions of every single thing in the world. Like, there are several mafia games on steam for example - what would be the difference in this mafia game?

    Sorry for the dumb question. I imagine some people just facepalmed hard.

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    Re: WC3Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Can you elaborate on the highlighted part?
    Does someone own the IP of all mafia games or something?
    I don't quite get it. There are many different versions of every single thing in the world. Like, there are several mafia games on steam for example - what would be the difference in this mafia game?

    Sorry for the dumb question. I imagine some people just facepalmed hard.
    The map uses certain songs from certain places.

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    This is so sad to hear tbh...
    Like, I played WC3 custom maps for years before SC2 came out.

    I mean, I understand Blizzard I guess. They're a company after all.
    But it still feels disrespectful to all those awesome map makers who gave me and so many others so much joy.
    Some people grew up with comic books.
    Some people grew up with D&D and the like.
    To each their own.
    To me, custom maps were larger part of my childhood than I care to admit.

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    Re: WC3Mafia

    All the big SC2 mod makers that I know of have decided to not work on WC3 because of their crappy new policy. A big part of their game goes away there. They won't get another "MOBA incident" for sure, but they won't get creators either.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: WC3Mafia

    I watched a copyrights attorney talk about WC:R https://youtu.be/3zQXg7BLQXo
    In intro he says metacritics rate the game 0.9/10
    I'm like "that's not right, it's 1.6/10"
    So I go to metacritics and it's 0.7/10 https://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/w...t-iii-reforged
    People get more and more dissatisfied with WC:R as time goes by

    Is it me or is this website lagging more and more often lately?
    Last edited by OzyWho; January 31st, 2020 at 07:06 PM.

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    Re: WC3Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by powerofdeath View Post
    https://gyazo.com/5d9676dcb2247ae6afd6486818049384

    I found a version hosted that was updated on WC3:R, not sure if someone did it.
    OMG PoD YOU'RE ALIVE :3
    hai
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    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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    Re: WC3Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by powerofdeath View Post
    Yeah, only came here to report this discovery :-)
    Can we get another survivor? I've been working on my stay up 24/7 skills.
    Quote Originally Posted by AnassRhamur View Post
    Please don't post in the punished players section if you're not involved. Consider this a warning from Thugnificent. You got one Thug ticket. Collect 3 more of those and i'll have to issue a Thug Infraction. Collect 3 Thug Infractions and you get 1 Thug Misdemeanor Charge.

    Spoiler : :
    Citizen, Agent, Citizen, Vigilante, Citizen, Godfather, Citizen, Citizen, Voter, Elder, Mafioso, BackUpSleuth, Escort, Mafioso, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Tailor, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, Citizen, TheJoker, Citizen, LadyGaga, Mafioso, Winston Wolfe, Detective, Citizen, Citizen, Masquerader

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