S-FM 203 Artificial Intelligence II

[Never Unlucky]

Twice?

Again, it was a mistake. I'm new to this whole forum, I did not know how the multi-quoting worked.

To answer your question, I was going to use those quotes to showcase how you're acting as a victim.

[ThePaladin]

Cool!

I still don't much believe it, but that's okay.

Did this guy just admit to not even bothering to read.


Check the spoiler genius

[ThePaladin]

the only thing i have explictly claimed is being roleblocked

[Never Unlucky]

But see, this is what will happen.

Giving a look at where the votes are currently, and judging by who is what and who is confirmed, there likely won't be enough votes on ThePaladin. RLVG and Carrot Cake + 3 mafias = 5, 11-5=6. So unless all 6 remaining remaining towns agree on lynching ThePaladin, there won't be anyone dying. The only reason I suggest me is for two reasons:

[...].

You're suggesting yourself that Paladin isn't an Ultron. Slip.

[Never Unlucky]

LMAO, I can't believe you took the "as well" as if I was talking about myself. I was talking about the two people that practically ignore everything I say.

You pick the two noobs to give reads on, wow. Explain your town reads. I'm not impressed seeing a "gut feeling" read ether.

No. I thought RLVG could be scum when he claimed I lied about my night action because that was bullshot. Before that I said that RLVG COULD be scum based on his interactions with pre-flip associations (I also said I'd re-read if ThePaladin flipped scum, so nice job there) my thedougler read was based on 4 pages, I sucked at the beginning, sure. I know that my thedougler read was wrong. That's the only time I've been wrong, and the difference between us is that I make enough of an opinion to be wrong. Where have you been? Sitting around waiting to call someone stupid. Nice work detective.

The reason you didn't board ThePaladin train is why I am linking you with him, I read you both scum for separate reasons but when I connect them together it makes sense. You just proved my point. You didn't have any valid reasoning on Banana btw, and your reasoning on mine was shit. Carrot Cake played really dumb so of course everyone would vote him.

Why would I want to defend myself and argue with others? This entire game those 3 have been set on lynching me, and everything I say/do is ignored or considered a 'slip.' So tell me why I should be more defensive then, id rather spend my time saying why I think people are scummy before I die then waste my time saying "this person is scummier then me though"

You can't assume I'm Carrot Cake v2 and then say I 'slipped' that's another reason you are highly scummy. You are trying to shape it so there is a logical excuse when I flip town, but towns don't 'slip' so you actually just contradicted myself.

I was supposed to guess? If you taught me something, Unknown, it's that guessing isn't the way to play Mafia. Just check your previous reads. Lol.
Still, my point stands. You rarely answer questions, and when you do, you reply with other questions.

Uhm... I'm the newest player in here. Unicron's played 2 games before, Spruance has played some games before as he said he sometimes claims citizen. Sooooooooooooooooo, your argument is invalid. If anything, you're arguing against yourself as you're the one who's picking on the noob.

Mesk is the only remaining hard town read I have, and I've explained this read before. I'm not hard-town-reading Paladin as you think I am. I'm holding a reserve because I find him to be manipulative and somewhat hypocritical.

And what's the reason I didn't board the paladin train, detective Carrot?

Yet again answering with questions.

More and more thinking you're just another Carrot Cake town. You slip, but act as town.

[Lolunicorn12358]

Hello and welcome to Claimed Roles with special guest Comic Sans!

Carrot Cake- 1UP! +35877 Mayor
Mattzed-
RLVG- ?Vig (Ya see, idk)
Unknown1234- Doctor
Mesk- Citizen
Never Unlucky-
Grylander-
ThePaladin- Um, +1 ult
Firebringer-
Spruance-
Lolunicorn12358- You thought I would RC?! Pahaha

[ThePaladin]

The site is lagging extremely for me right now.

[Never Unlucky]

So... Shall we poke Spruance?

To which ThePaladin responded:

I still scum read unknown. He's not confirmed and he slipped.

Add this to why I don't town-read ThePaladin. I hard-scum-read Spruance, and I can sort of see ThePaladin defending him. Paladin is leading most discussions and rarely talks about Spruance. Take note of this, boys.

[Never Unlucky]

The site is lagging extremely for me right now.

Yes, for me too.

[RLVG]

@RLVG Why are you reading me half-scum?

You see a lot of half scum reads and you question your own instead of the others? That's quite "me" right there, so... Added suspicion as to why it matters.

I don't care if this get's me killed, LMAO.

Such apathy, much anti-town, wow

I TRUST UNKNOWN WITH MY LIFE AND IF THIS IS THE BEGINNERS GAME AGAIN WELL THAN FUCK ME! BUT SERIOUS I ALREAY SAID WHAT I AM AND I WILL DEFEND UBKNOWN TIL YOU RUN A TRAIN ON ME OR WHOEVER THE FUCK THE VIGI IS BUSTS A FUCKING CAP IN MY ASS WHICH BY THE WAY WOULD BE A TOTAL WASTE, KILL NEVER UNLUCKY

Ditto.

SENPAI NOTICES MESK

Okay, reading through the 72 friggin pages you people left me to read, and so far, it looks to me like its RLVG and Carrot being scummy, with Paladin, our probable Ultron, at the center. Thats why they are doing that, they see me as less a threat, and at the point i am at in the discussion there are 5 rather active players, (3 of which the scum) and you threaten them w/ intelligence. Yup, I logiced it.

At this point, I think even Scum wants to kill Unicorn and would not prevent a Vigi from policy shooting Unicorn lol.

I was told I was Princess. One day I got tired of being a Princess. Then I moved away and i became a Normal Citizen.

Did you just claim Citizen?

Oy, how many posts is Calix making me read by replacing out due to inactivity. She's the most active poster on this forum and can't show up for a game.

How do I put this, @Calix ....

Shame.

Shame.

Shame.



*rings bell*

I quote this in full glory just to further antagonize Calix. :troll:

Believe it or not, Mesk voting strenghtened the town-read I had on her. She's trying to pressure people, and I can respect that. Also, she hasn't scumslipped like you have, I wouldn't support a Mesk lynch, but I'd support seeing you lynched.

Doesn't it make them more scummy on the illogical buddying?

The irony.

Lol, you're a player who can't see gambits. Even Paladin gave a full version as to why this made perfect sense.
I'm Un-CC'd.

I accused you of being scum and you blanked me. so I SC read you further.
the stubirn town are to stoborn to not argue with each other and vote or even pressure scum.

This isn't how Mafia works. "You must be pressured because I think you're scum" with zero proper explanation, coming from the person who is all nazi like "You got a 100% scum read on someone, now focus on someone else and don't lynch the scummy player or convince them".

Anywho, gimme a good reason to vote Grylander and I shall. I always follow the mayors vote when I am confused in Town Of Salem, but this is smaller.

Don't you fucking dare compare this to SC2 Arcade Mafia Map, or Town of Salem, this is infinitely larger and longer by a huge margain.

Hey that helped me too now I have a players list

You didn't bother with a player list before?

There.

He was joking. "NOT REALLY"
Misrep.

all 3 Scum are in the following:
3. Firebringer
5. Spruance
6. Calix/matzed
8. Lolunicorn12358
9. Gyrlander
10. Never Unlucky

Just to tinfoil this, why is Paladin town and why can't he be a possible scum?

it called mafia.

You know Mafia, but you're shit at mafia theory lol.

@Lolunicorn12358

get voting or become voted. i dont know how inexperianced you are but by the sounds of it you are unsure and its a norm for newb scum to avoid voting.

Unicorn has been in about 5 games here from my knowledge, there could be more.
Just a year break or something.

Still, "get voting or become voted", is this policy or?

grylander?!

Freudian slip? Are you someone else than Unicorn?

paladin is town. shown town intentions. his last will should be enough information to show how he is town.

So Paladin is Town based on his Last Will that you do not have access to and if he flips, if he is scum then he's a town-scum because of his last will?
I don't even.

Or anyone else? I haven't seen too much a reason for the people you are looking towards. I think Paladin, or maybe RLVG

Seriously, can we policy Unicorn? No offense, a huge waste of space here right now.

DO YO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW MAFIA WORK?

[Never Unlucky]

"Lol, you're a player who can't see gambits. Even Paladin gave a full version as to why this made perfect sense. I'm Un-CC'd."

It makes perfect sense, never said the opposite. I just found it ironic that you claimed either lookout or detective not to get witched and you turn out being vigilante, the role witches love the most.
Misrep.

[RLVG]

"Lol, you're a player who can't see gambits. Even Paladin gave a full version as to why this made perfect sense. I'm Un-CC'd."

It makes perfect sense, never said the opposite. I just found it ironic that you claimed either lookout or detective not to get witched and you turn out being vigilante, the role witches love the most.
Misrep.

I misread leading to a misrep, I'll take that back.

I'm bad at irony.

[Carrot Cake]

@Lolunicorn12358

how do you find out if someone is scum or town. for example gyrlander. how do we find out what they are.

[RLVG]

If Unicorn is Town, the scum will avoid killing Unicorn due to how much of a hinderance of the Town that Unicorn is. Unicorn doesn't contribute, doesn't read, doesn't properly vote, sheeps the wrong people, questions logic in a horrific and bad way and overall isn't a player I'd trust to have in the end-game.

For this, I request a mandatory Policy lynch on Unicorn.

If Unicorn is scum, yay, we got a scum down.

-vote Lolunicorn12358

[Carrot Cake]

so this is the plan if you are gooing to be stupid

lynch unknown because scum might of no killed and its impossible that he might be doctor
when he flips town
lynch mesk because scum might of no killed and impossible to be healed by dead doctor
when she flips town
lynch paladin because obviously since he was wrong about those two he must be scum who was roleblocked.
when he flips town
lynch rvlg because after all this time he has been fake claiing vigi because the real vigi is a fish that cant type.

after that it should be game over and scum win.

good plan. focus 100% of tunneled mistakes and dont bother trying to find scum. because it is apparently impossible for unknown to be doctor and paladin to be town.


i am fine with going with this plan. it is gamethrowing in my eyes because they are town. but because there is always some way which they are not town i can vote them up.

[RLVG]

Carrot Cake, read Post #1514 and agree with it.

[Carrot Cake]

If Unicorn is Town, the scum will avoid killing Unicorn due to how much of a hinderance of the Town that Unicorn is. Unicorn doesn't contribute, doesn't read, doesn't properly vote, sheeps the wrong people, questions logic in a horrific and bad way and overall isn't a player I'd trust to have in the end-game.

For this, I request a mandatory Policy lynch on Unicorn.

If Unicorn is scum, yay, we got a scum down.

-vote Lolunicorn12358

i am completly happy with this

-vote Lolunicorn12358

unicorn refuses to try and find scum. and seems to only want to vote them if there is 100% no chance they are town aka comfirmed scum.

im sorry if i rage a lot i am big time pissed at some of the attutudes people have had. and what them issues have caused.

[Carrot Cake]

Carrot Cake, read Post #1514 and agree with it.

alredy.did.

[Never Unlucky]

so this is the plan if you are gooing to be stupid

lynch unknown because scum might of no killed and its impossible that he might be doctor
when he flips town
lynch mesk because scum might of no killed and impossible to be healed by dead doctor
when she flips town
lynch paladin because obviously since he was wrong about those two he must be scum who was roleblocked.
when he flips town
lynch rvlg because after all this time he has been fake claiing vigi because the real vigi is a fish that cant type.

after that it should be game over and scum win.

good plan. focus 100% of tunneled mistakes and dont bother trying to find scum. because it is apparently impossible for unknown to be doctor and paladin to be town.


i am fine with going with this plan. it is gamethrowing in my eyes because they are town. but because there is always some way which they are not town i can vote them up.

Lol. We're not saying that it's impossible for them to be town, we're saying it's possible they could be scum. They are not at all confirmed, you can't account them as town.

You have to be trolling. Please tell me you are.

[Never Unlucky]

No surprise, she's been on my lynch list since day 1.

-vote Lolunicorn12358

[Spruance]

To which ThePaladin responded:


Add this to why I don't town-read ThePaladin. I hard-scum-read Spruance, and I can sort of see ThePaladin defending him. Paladin is leading most discussions and rarely talks about Spruance. Take note of this, boys.

Did you even read day 1? lmao

[Spruance]

Well I don't think hes town, and I don't think you are scum, therefore I shall not vote you... yet.

This is a weird post but he refuses to vote someone he thinks is town with a train on him.

Or anyone else? I haven't seen too much a reason for the people you are looking towards. I think Paladin, or maybe RLVG

RLVG claimed vigi and unicorn still doesn't believe him?

So are we trying to do a full roleclaim, or are we just spouting about as the feeling passes? I mean, unknown was pressured, but like Mesk just kinda put it out there.

Seemingly against roleclaiming and doesn't want to be the last to do so.

Normally I wouldn't vote unicorn just because I don't understand him, but since mayor and a confirmed town are voting him we know the train isn't influenced by scum.

-vote Lolunicorn12358

[ThePaladin]

To which ThePaladin responded:


Add this to why I don't town-read ThePaladin. I hard-scum-read Spruance, and I can sort of see ThePaladin defending him. Paladin is leading most discussions and rarely talks about Spruance. Take note of this, boys.

I still read spruance as scum.
I pushed him for 90percent of dayq

Scumslip > scumread

[ThePaladin]

Day1, typing on phone

[Orpz]

Why did I agree to do this...

@Orpz , can I get a link to D2 start?

It has been added to the OP.

[ThePaladin]

Why are we policy lynching when we have a guy who scumslipped by claiming to have a lead on impossible information


FFS.

Lynch the scumslip over the scumread

Also it would be an easy claim for scun to claim doctor when it is unconfirmable if mafia shot and healed versus no shooting then claiming pseudo confirmed doc

[ThePaladin]

Unicorn is scummy as hell for obly sheeping and acting like he doesnt even know the basics of how to play such as not knowing the playerlist

But acumslip is greater than purely scumread which isgreater than policy

[ThePaladin]

Also since no one is going to confirm rbing ne when we mass roleclaimed(i still havennt)

I think its fair to assume we have a consort

[Lolunicorn12358]

Geez people...
I would Role claim but I don't think it'll matter. Allow me to explain myself as calmly as possible in my situation.

I AM TRYING TO FORUM MAFIA AND I JUST SUCK AT VIDEO GAMES ITS MY FIRST GAME IN PROBABLY OVER A YEAR I AM STILL FIGURING OUT HOW TO DO THIS I AM A TOWN AND YOU PEOPLE EVEN SAID THEY PROB WONT KILL ME SO HERE I AM THE TOWN THAT WILL SURVIVE! If you people would just ANSWER my QUESTIONS and LET ME TRY then Ill LEARN VERY QUICKLY I'm SURE, if I can JUST get a CHANCE to figure out how to judge who is LYING and when someone MESSES UP and THAT KINDA CRAP, OKAY?

Thank you.

[ThePaladin]

Given all the claims, confirmedtown , slips, and hard reada everyone seems to have.

We shouldnt be lynching based on policy, lynch on reads andor slips,

[ThePaladin]

Unicorn playing bad or being bad at a game you signed up for does not excuse scummy behavoir. This applies to any psychological game not jsut mafia

[Lolunicorn12358]

Unicorn playing bad or being bad at a game you signed up for does not excuse scummy behavoir. This applies to any psychological game not jsut mafia

But the thing is, there isn't scummy behavior. Multiple people SAID that. I'm just a potential policy lynch. And I can see why, but I was not given a chance to figure it out. It's D2, can we not do this?

[Carrot Cake]

Why are we policy lynching when we have a guy who scumslipped by claiming to have a lead on impossible information


FFS.

Lynch the scumslip over the scumread

Also it would be an easy claim for scun to claim doctor when it is unconfirmable if mafia shot and healed versus no shooting then claiming pseudo confirmed doc

the impossible information is also impossible for Scum this is no alignment indicator. stop tunneling on shit points. there are more Scum out there so focus on them.

[ThePaladin]

the impossible information is also impossible for Scum this is no alignment indicator. stop tunneling on shit points. there are more Scum out there so focus on them.

Learn to play.

Scum get rp names
We dont
He slipped by claiming to know an rp name
Forgot that town dont know

[ThePaladin]

We dont base scumslips off of a scum wouldnt scunslip cause thats dumb. Its a slip fir a reason

[Carrot Cake]

Unicorn. Give a list of who is town and who is scum.
Also explain why you have these reads.

[ThePaladin]

6There is NO REASON a town would ma ke a claim that they could somehow figure out or narrow down to know impossible information

Seriously this mayor wtf orpZ

[Carrot Cake]

Learn to play.

Scum get rp names
We dont
He slipped by claiming to know an rp name
Forgot that town dont know

because he himself is a trp and he felt fairly certain he would end up as javis. you are tunneling on the worst points ever seen. Refusing to look elsewhere.

[Carrot Cake]

what will you do when he flips doctor? paladin.

[ThePaladin]

Even if you dont believe the slip he has behaved scumily elsewhere

Such as trying ti get vites.. Typing on phone acnt repeat argume,t again

[ThePaladin]

what will you do when he flips doctor? paladin.

If he does, i will say whelp this town is dumb for making a claim of scunslip

What would I do if a guy claimed to know about an anon chat between scun then flipped town

Same thing

[Never Unlucky]

But the thing is, there isn't scummy behavior. Multiple people SAID that. I'm just a potential policy lynch. And I can see why, but I was not given a chance to figure it out. It's D2, can we not do this?

There is a scummy behavior. It goes into policy lynching.

[ThePaladin]

Unicorn is bei,g dumb

What if he flips town what will you do.

Garbage argument is garbage

[ThePaladin]

There is a scummy behavior. It goes into policy lynching.

Pretty sure I sae someone say they were doing this becuase of policy, mightve been spruance, thats what i was talking about

[ThePaladin]

I could perfectly see unknown being a consort (since no one will verify my claim)who told scum not to kill and claimed doc cause of it

[Never Unlucky]

Here, Unicorn, let's put it that way:

The goal of the town is to lynch the scums, not to be accepted as a town.

It really does look like you're just trying to be accepted as town, you don't want anyone lynched.

[ThePaladin]

It would make sense since he pushed me so hard on mw being scum cause of my rb claim earlier

[Carrot Cake]

paladin you are not getting unknown today. focus on the other two scum.

[ThePaladin]

paladin you are not getting unknown today. focus on the other two scum.

I can lynch unknown mesk or unicorn today

Why do you care if I am stating ehy I scunread a guy outside of the slip(which apparebtly you dont understand what a slip is)

[ThePaladin]

On a sidenote

Unicorn you are at l2 roleclaim