S-FM Turnabout Mafia

[Gyrlander]

Also not surprised almost everyone but Voss is a complete retard putting me high in their lists. With what happened I'm basically almost confirmed Town. Just tell me in which world I'm either:

a) Corrupted Attorney : I literally get prosecutor against the person I want to leave, and have him literally number one of my suspect list. I believe I did even before Slaol told people he wanted him trialed...
b) Courtroom Bomber: I was away when the bombing took place, and I literally cannot see why the fuck would I bomb in a trial that I'm doing 0% and lazy as fuck. Idk, it would be so fucking random bombing my own trial.

Anyway, I'm happy my gut was correct about Damus and blink. Cats never miss.

[Slaol]

You did kind of just let his defense win though

[Mike]

This is a thought if we lych MM our number 1 suspect I am leaning to it being helpful to town any way we look at it. If he is scummate of Dumas 1 less scum 2 he is bomber as number2 thinks still we need lynched. 3 he is town we no longer have to worry about him. As Avion we don’t lose unless we lych town 3 times in a row. So we do have some leeway. Or 4 bomber sticks again and town still has 2 free lychs before a loss. Anyway we look at it Sorry MM but I see it as a town win. And the town MM would agree am I right MM? So do you agree with this MM?? And judge what about you what are your thoughts on this?

[Gyrlander]

You did kind of just let his defense win though

I already said several times that I mainly put Damus Graves because of gut, and then you confirmed you wanted him voted up. I had no real reason to get him lynched besides that. Well, I also didn't like the questions post blink sent me.

Also, bad idea blink. The "YOU WEREN'T IN THE RECEIVING END OF THOSE QUESTIONS". Yeah, so I wasn't fooled

I admit blink logically did an infinitely much better work than me but I think I gave an explanation for how weak I was. Also, as I said, it wouldn't make sense me insta putting him first on my cvote. Also, I think there was a lower chance of me being the prosecutor if the G.Defendant is trialed.

[Gyrlander]

I am really curious whether MM's defense of Damus was forced, very intense or... well, normal (?)

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Also not surprised almost everyone but Voss is a complete retard putting me high in their lists. With what happened I'm basically almost confirmed Town. Just tell me in which world I'm either:

a) Corrupted Attorney : I literally get prosecutor against the person I want to leave, and have him literally number one of my suspect list. I believe I did even before Slaol told people he wanted him trialed...
b) Courtroom Bomber: I was away when the bombing took place, and I literally cannot see why the fuck would I bomb in a trial that I'm doing 0% and lazy as fuck. Idk, it would be so fucking random bombing my own trial.

Anyway, I'm happy my gut was correct about Damus and blink. Cats never miss.

I believe you said somewhere in the trial you said you were there because you had followed Slaol or something like that? Not sure about if it was you or someone in the jury chat who said that though

[Mike]

Also not surprised almost everyone but Voss is a complete retard putting me high in their lists. With what happened I'm basically almost confirmed Town. Just tell me in which world I'm either:

a) Corrupted Attorney : I literally get prosecutor against the person I want to leave, and have him literally number one of my suspect list. I believe I did even before Slaol told people he wanted him trialed...
b) Courtroom Bomber: I was away when the bombing took place, and I literally cannot see why the fuck would I bomb in a trial that I'm doing 0% and lazy as fuck. Idk, it would be so fucking random bombing my own trial.

Anyway, I'm happy my gut was correct about Damus and blink. Cats never miss.

Why are you defending from being bomber no one has accused you???

[Marshmallow Marshall]

This is a thought if we lych MM our number 1 suspect I am leaning to it being helpful to town any way we look at it. If he is scummate of Dumas 1 less scum 2 he is bomber as number2 thinks still we need lynched. 3 he is town we no longer have to worry about him. As Avion we don’t lose unless we lych town 3 times in a row. So we do have some leeway. Or 4 bomber sticks again and town still has 2 free lychs before a loss. Anyway we look at it Sorry MM but I see it as a town win. And the town MM would agree am I right MM? So do you agree with this MM?? And judge what about you what are your thoughts on this?

Well... NO. I don't agree with my death because fuck dying when you have good reasons to scumread other people. I have good reasons to scumread Kenny (if you remember a bit the jury chat, you should know what I mean lol), good reasons to have doubts on Numbertwo, on Gyrlander especially since he's trying to make himself look like "confirmed town"...

That being said I understand that I'm scummy and that from a town who isn't me PoV, what you propose makes sense.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Why are you defending from being bomber no one has accused you???

cough I slightly did and Voss LITERALLY did...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I am really curious whether MM's defense of Damus was forced, very intense or... well, normal (?)

Very intense with epic attorney roleplay lol... I wouldn't say that your case was very... convincing... The Judge himself had to make the case, and I considered it as weak and based on very uncertain things (such as 4 years ago meta).

But I guess you want someone else's version anyway? :P

[Mike]

cough I slightly did and Voss LITERALLY did...

Ok then nm I missed gnoses posts thanks MM I will reread the posta then.

[Mike]

Ok then nm I missed gnoses posts thanks MM I will reread the posta then.

Mind if you tell me when you and Voss did?

[Gyrlander]

Why are you defending from being bomber no one has accused you???

I've been voted highly by many deficient people including you. No one has accused me of ANY role so I just take all possible scum roles and write them. What are you even trying?

[Gyrlander]

cough I slightly did and Voss LITERALLY did...

Oh, did you? I kinda skipped that if you did during D2. However Voss voted me quite low so that's why I dont have him on the "kindergarden list"

[Gyrlander]

Well... NO. I don't agree with my death because fuck dying when you have good reasons to scumread other people. I have good reasons to scumread Kenny (if you remember a bit the jury chat, you should know what I mean lol), good reasons to have doubts on Numbertwo, on Gyrlander especially since he's trying to make himself look like "confirmed town"...

That being said I understand that I'm scummy and that from a town who isn't me PoV, what you propose makes sense.

Yeah... I'm being kinda objective about facts and tried to explain why me being scum makes no sense. You can continue to use anything I say against me though.

[Mike]

I've been voted highly by many deficient people including you. No one has accused me of ANY role so I just take all possible scum roles and write them. What are you even trying?

I am trying to scum hunt.

[Distorted]

Interesting... @Distorted , why did you inno?

because i saw him pressuring people, same thing blink saw. It looked like he was going pretty far in depth with drilling people, and to me that tripped a town tell. Slaol said he was good at that, but honestly i thought slaols reasons were weak because I had MM as a high town read, and it sounded like he scumread damus because of MM.

because i knew that if there actually was a bomber that he would use that opportunity to frame me. i also wanted damus dead, and making myself seem scummy in order to make the bomber kill a scum seemed worth it.

I am just going to state that if anyone believes this, lol. Numbertwo is the bomber. Him and MM got into a pretty decent argument over Damus being guilty. I think Numbertwo did it to prove himself right. It was a thick enough argument that I think that is warranted as an easy grudge response to it.

im on post 1486 stil lcatching up

[Slaol]

I scumread Damus for Damus reasons. His interactions with MM made me certain. Same goes for MM as well- scum alone and together

[Distorted]

Dunno if it’s been stated yet but I made it known in the chat that I was also planning on voting Damus inno

no you did not.... you literally posted a meme in the memes section about bathrooms and left. I don't recall you actually saying anything in general chat. I pinged you for your read on the situation and you said you were busy and would be back later. the bombing happened like 10 hours AFTER that. so..... stealth could be the bomber as well. he asked for opinions and never came back and bomb went off. so the bombing action was submitted right around that time.

[Mike]

This is a thought if we lych MM our number 1 suspect I am leaning to it being helpful to town any way we look at it. If he is scummate of Dumas 1 less scum 2 he is bomber as number2 thinks still we need lynched. 3 he is town we no longer have to worry about him. As Avion we don’t lose unless we lych town 3 times in a row. So we do have some leeway. Or 4 bomber sticks again and town still has 2 free lychs before a loss. Anyway we look at it Sorry MM but I see it as a town win. And the town MM would agree am I right MM? So do you agree with this MM?? And judge what about you what are your thoughts on this?

Judge what do you think of this Idea?

[Distorted]

I would like to make a point again.

I am confident the insane benigns are town aligned.

Id like everyone to tell me who their prosocutor target is, and their defense target is.

Obviously if you are neutral tell the truth, all others should just make up 2 claims.

I do this kinda thing a lot with sheriffs in no last wills games

My defense target is Mag
My prosecutor target is stealthbomber.

[Ganelon]

Did anyone vote guilty on Damus' trial? if so, who?

[Mike]

Did anyone vote guilty on Damus' trial? if so, who?

No one voted guilty. LIght wanted to abstain.

[Voss]

"i knew that the real bomber would use my soft bomber claim in the jury as a reason to strike and make everyone think that im the bomber."
-Number 2

There's no getting around the fact that Number 2 softed bomber. He admits this. Number 2 need to die for this, and moves up to the top of my reads list.

Catching up.

Spoiler : cvote :

Kenny,Numbertwo,LightYagami,Mike,MarshmallowMarsha ll,Distorted,Stealthbomber16,Gyrlander,Magoroth,Vo ss,

[Distorted]

The Judge stated before (iirc) that mafia > bomber and that the bomber is more his friend right now. however, I do want to point out that the bomber can KILL. Mafia CANT. their role that can force trials is dead. so if the bomber dies, town controls every death for the rest of this game. Mafia, at this point, would want to keep the bomber alive so they could get some additional kills to even up the match. That is my opinion on that scenario. I had a quote with it but it got deleted =( rip

[Voss]

“Back up one min I am not the one who defending him in jury chat. MM was you are so not town every chance you have had to put me on the spot you have. I do believe you are the insane pros atty. and your target is me. That I have no doubt about now. Only person you push all game for the most part is me over and over. You don’t put me as number 1 becuse you know it would be obvious. You know I am town. Well I know who you are now. Town don’t bother putting her up she is not scum. And we don’t need her to win. At least we know know who our nuet are and if MM is the scummate of Dumas I will bet he is. All we have left to find is the last evil Jurrer.*

What I find funny Voss you preach a good game of Follow Judge yet when he put me as town read you still target me. One hand you say follow Judge other hand you say Judge is wrong.”

Sorry Mike, I’m done talking to you. You call me a liar when I point out facts WITHOUT my interpretation. The scumminess inherent in them is your own fault. Not mine. Now you’re calling me flip floppy on Slaol to scum paint me. 

Welcome #2 vote.

Spoiler : cvote :

Numbertwo,Mike,Kenny,LightYagami,MarshmallowMarsha ll,Distorted,Stealthbomber16,Gyrlander,Magoroth,Vo ss,

[Voss]

dafaq, his case against you, if you can call it that, even, is very weak. he's slating you for a policy lynch more than anything else. and I can't blame him at all.
notice that you are not the primary person he's voting for.

The notes he pinned against you yesterday are un-exelike. This is not to say he couldn't be exe, just that what he did yesterday does not make him executioner.

THANK you.

[Mike]

“Back up one min I am not the one who defending him in jury chat. MM was you are so not town every chance you have had to put me on the spot you have. I do believe you are the insane pros atty. and your target is me. That I have no doubt about now. Only person you push all game for the most part is me over and over. You don’t put me as number 1 becuse you know it would be obvious. You know I am town. Well I know who you are now. Town don’t bother putting her up she is not scum. And we don’t need her to win. At least we know know who our nuet are and if MM is the scummate of Dumas I will bet he is. All we have left to find is the last evil Jurrer.*

What I find funny Voss you preach a good game of Follow Judge yet when he put me as town read you still target me. One hand you say follow Judge other hand you say Judge is wrong.”

Sorry Mike, I’m done talking to you. You call me a liar when I point out facts WITHOUT my interpretation. The scumminess inherent in them is your own fault. Not mine. Now you’re calling me flip floppy on Slaol to scum paint me. 

Welcome #2 vote.

Spoiler : cvote :

Numbertwo,Mike,Kenny,LightYagami,MarshmallowMarsha ll,Distorted,Stealthbomber16,Gyrlander,Magoroth,Vo ss,

First I did not scum paint you I called it as I see it. I also said you where not scum but you are a nuet role. Insane pros becuse you act like it.

[Voss]

Judge god supreme statement:
You may not quote your juror chat but you may write down extensive notes, like EVERYTHING SAID, and share them here. I expect every town juror to do so and every scum juror to argue against this idea.

I'm sorry I was an idiot and didn't think this about this.

[Slaol]

"i knew that the real bomber would use my soft bomber claim in the jury as a reason to strike and make everyone think that im the bomber."
-Number 2

There's no getting around the fact that Number 2 softed bomber. He admits this. Number 2 need to die for this, and moves up to the top of my reads list.

Catching up.

Spoiler : cvote :

Kenny,Numbertwo,LightYagami,Mike,MarshmallowMarsha ll,Distorted,Stealthbomber16,Gyrlander,Magoroth,Vo ss,

Voss ima need you to get your reads a little better. But ima let you catch up

[Slaol]

Judge what do you think of this Idea?

MM is a good lynch given the current circumstance. However he's very active and id like to find a better lynch if we can

[Voss]

@ Sloal can you spot your votes so I can reflect them. Because so fare you have called it exactly correct. and you are the only one i trust at this point in time. Yes everyone will see it scummy for me to do this so be it I dont care town will win. but we have to admit Slaol was correct.

OH SO NOW ITS OKAY TO FOLLOW SLAOL. AM I JUST HIPSTER? DOING THINGS BEFORE THEY'RE COOL?

i swear to @#%@ if i'm ever on trial before Mike I'm giving up.

[Distorted]

Spoiler : cvote :

Stealthbomber16,MarshmallowMarshall,Numbertwo,Gyrl ander,Voss,Kenny,Mike,LightYagami,Magoroth,Distort ed,

updating votecount - judged earned a faith vote for sure on this last one.

[Distorted]

OH SO NOW ITS OKAY TO FOLLOW SLAOL. AM I JUST HIPSTER? DOING THINGS BEFORE THEY'RE COOL?

i swear to @#%@ if i'm ever on trial before Mike I'm giving up.

No. you're a lurker xD

[Distorted]

and responding to writing down everything in the jury chat....not a chance. it would have to be greatly paraphrased from when people were awake. people were not reading much of it either because when they left and came back there was like 50 new posts lol if they left for an extended period (hours) then they come back to god knows how many more. it was a very active discord lol ill take notes on the next ones, but we need people to agree to talk LESS in jury chat and only talk about relevant, trial related things. (kinda like how it happened at the end of the chat).

[Slaol]

OH SO NOW ITS OKAY TO FOLLOW SLAOL. AM I JUST HIPSTER? DOING THINGS BEFORE THEY'RE COOL?

i swear to @#%@ if i'm ever on trial before Mike I'm giving up.

You need to get your shit together but you're very clear town to me so ill be against your trial

[Slaol]

and responding to writing down everything in the jury chat....not a chance. it would have to be greatly paraphrased from when people were awake. people were not reading much of it either because when they left and came back there was like 50 new posts lol if they left for an extended period (hours) then they come back to god knows how many more. it was a very active discord lol ill take notes on the next ones, but we need people to agree to talk LESS in jury chat and only talk about relevant, trial related things. (kinda like how it happened at the end of the chat).

Okay Distorted is our lynch for the day. I have other observable reasons from today but this is straight up harming our information

[Mike]

OH SO NOW ITS OKAY TO FOLLOW SLAOL. AM I JUST HIPSTER? DOING THINGS BEFORE THEY'RE COOL?

i swear to @#%@ if i'm ever on trial before Mike I'm giving up.

Then answer me this if you want to follow him so much why have you been on my case when he called me green? I understand a little push. But you have been on my case non stop. And this last statement does not screen exe I don’t know what does

[Slaol]

MM is a good lynch given the current circumstance. However he's very active and id like to find a better lynch if we can

He's actually who im referencing here

[Distorted]

Okay Distorted is our lynch for the day. I have other observable reasons from today but this is straight up harming our information

by trying to get people to talk less in the jury chat? it was a shitshow in there lol MM and numbertwo had an argument. Voss and mike had an argument. There was a music channel added, and even a memes and off--topic section because it got to be so much. Aivion even almost turned on delayed posting (where people have to wait 5+ seconds between posts) to calm down the activity so people could follow.

[Voss]

I believe Voss mentioned that the neutrals should reveal yesterday.

I'd see mafia doing that. Not to say that there aren't town motivations for doing so, but there are definitely scum motivations.

There's also the possibility of Voss being a neutral and baiting neutral claims himself.

He did vote blinkskater yesterday, I recall it having to do something with the neutral claim.

Wow first fluff post by Mag. I'm disappointed.

Neutrals should reveal. What I'm suggesting has town benefit. No one's laid out the scum benefit. There might be, but I asked like 50 times for someone to prove it to me. And I voted blinkskater for calling me a lurker initially, and for being inconsistent previously.

[Distorted]

by trying to get people to talk less in the jury chat? it was a shitshow in there lol MM and numbertwo had an argument. Voss and mike had an argument. There was a music channel added, and even a memes and off--topic section because it got to be so much. Aivion even almost turned on delayed posting (where people have to wait 5+ seconds between posts) to calm down the activity so people could follow.

so yes, what im speaking about someone writing down 1000's of posts being illogical, I stand by lol. thats why we need to come to an agreement to TALK LESS in jury chat in order to record data better.

[Slaol]

by trying to get people to talk less in the jury chat? it was a shitshow in there lol MM and numbertwo had an argument. Voss and mike had an argument. There was a music channel added, and even a memes and off--topic section because it got to be so much. Aivion even almost turned on delayed posting (where people have to wait 5+ seconds between posts) to calm down the activity so people could follow.

Less talking is pro scum.
Arguments can be read.
Time of availability can be read.

If you personally would paraphrase and cut through nonesense to only mention what you wanted that would be fine but to discoursge archiving and sharing more information with the confirmed judge as well as up to 3 more players is insanely non-town

[Distorted]

Wow first fluff post by Mag. I'm disappointed.

Neutrals should reveal. What I'm suggesting has town benefit. No one's laid out the scum benefit. There might be, but I asked like 50 times for someone to prove it to me. And I voted blinkskater for calling me a lurker initially, and for being inconsistent previously.

Slaol says he has a good idea for whom the neutral is, hence why he wanted everyone to post a target for defense and lynch.

[Slaol]

Slaol says he has a good idea for whom the neutral is, hence why he wanted everyone to post a target for defense and lynch.

Which @Voss you havent done

[Distorted]

Less talking is pro scum.
Arguments can be read.
Time of availability can be read.

If you personally would paraphrase and cut through nonesense to only mention what you wanted that would be fine but to discoursge archiving and sharing more information with the confirmed judge as well as up to 3 more players is insanely non-town

lol well im telling you right now, and i think anyone in that chat can agree. You could not PAY ME to write down that entire discord chat in a 24 hour period. no game would be worth that headache.

[Slaol]

lol well im telling you right now, and i think anyone in that chat can agree. You could not PAY ME to write down that entire discord chat in a 24 hour period. no game would be worth that headache.

Dont worry you wont need to

[Mike]

by trying to get people to talk less in the jury chat? it was a shitshow in there lol MM and numbertwo had an argument. Voss and mike had an argument. There was a music channel added, and even a memes and off--topic section because it got to be so much. Aivion even almost turned on delayed posting (where people have to wait 5+ seconds between posts) to calm down the activity so people could follow.

Didtorted did become Admin to help set it up for Avion all this is true

only reason I am putting Distorted up is because I judge I dont scum read him.

Spoiler : cvote :

Distorted,MarshmallowMarshall,Kenny,Gyrlander,Numb ertwo,Voss,Stealthbomber16,LightYagami,Magoroth,Mi ke,

[Slaol]

Anyone who has trusted me with their votes, please trust @Distorted when he tells you its good to follow me further and vote @Distorted

[Gyrlander]

Is the Narrator Condorcet Calculator updated manually? Cause if I'm really 2. in the consensus I'm going to start insulting left and right.