S-FM: ???? Gamethread

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[PowersThatBe]

@RLVG you killed a red and brought this on us. Jesus. lol What a game.

[RLVG]

I'm. Fucking. Confused.

[RLVG]

Well the Crusade is basically that Morgan le Fay has 2 less votes required to be lynched.
That seems fucking negated with this double-crusade.

And now I'm two cults, dafuq.

And then there's this fucking Reality Bender. I assume that's the lord of disruption, since it's immune to disruption.
Disruption, hmm... Does that mean avoid mechanics?

Wait a minute... Isn't that part of PowersThatBe? Avoid mechanics?

Guys, check if PowersThatBe is part of a cult.

[Voss]

He's in my other cult with goatse

[Voss]

Playing mafia irl, so I'm not 100% here

[RLVG]

Reality Bender
GOC Member
GOC Member
GOC Member
Serpent's Hand Operative
Serpent's Hand Operative
Researcher
Researcher
Researcher
Researcher
Researcher
Researcher
Director
D-Class
D-Class
D-Class

This role list is probably bullshit.
Red flipped as "Team Scum Member" instead of "GOC Member", and Merlin flipped as a specific name "Merlin the Wizard", instead of "Team Scum Member".

There's the 6 "researchers" and "director", so 7 vassals, but no king arthur. There's a lack of "Town Power Role" flavor and "Site Director".
There's also a flipped Mayor which is plain open for interpretation.

SuperJack flipped as a Member instead of a Leader, so it makes me wonder if they hid their real leader or if they were truly a faction of 2.

And remember all the flaws about the Win Conditions?

I don't know what to believe anymore, for all we know the scum has a Crier based role.

By the way, someone asked me to get into a strange device. Declined. Is that you, Otaku?

[RLVG]

Didn't Mr.StoleUrGurl also claim to be a priest of sorts, which isn't a TPR?

Holy shit I've been afk, and came back to a shit show. My role is Holy Priest. I can target one person and dispel any magical effects. I thought this role was useless, but I guess it has something to do with curses and herbs. I think I may be able to get the shop back(no fucking idea). I got cursed last night and targeted NoctiZ.

[GoatseOntheCupboard]

WE HAVE GREEN CULTS NOW WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GAME

I ASKED THE MOD FOR A CUP OF WISDOM AND HE GAVE IT TO ME

I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT A CUP OF WISDOM DOES

I couldnt get the holy grail from mods, but I was able to get the "cup of wisdom" HmmmMMMMmMMmMMmmm...

[RLVG]

WE HAVE GREEN CULTS NOW WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GAME

I'm in two cults, you're just in one?

[RLVG]

I assume this "Green Cult" is with GoatseOntheCupboard, Voss and PowersThatBe (based on Voss saying he's with Goatse).

I'm in the Roman cult which has Otakudweeb69 and Stealthbomber16, and I'm also in the Aztec cult with Voss and Stealthbomber16.



Green cult : GoatseOntheCupboard, Voss, PowersThatBe
Roman cult : RLVG, Otakudweeb69, Stealthbomber16
Aztec cult : RLVG, Voss, Stealthbomber16

[PowersThatBe]

I assume this "Green Cult" is with GoatseOntheCupboard, Voss and PowersThatBe (based on Voss saying he's with Goatse).

I'm in the Roman cult which has Otakudweeb69 and Stealthbomber16, and I'm also in the Aztec cult with Voss and Stealthbomber16.



Green cult : GoatseOntheCupboard, Voss, PowersThatBe
Roman cult : RLVG, Otakudweeb69, Stealthbomber16
Aztec cult : RLVG, Voss, Stealthbomber16

So how my ability helps here.

I cannot die if one of my cult members is killed. I cannot die if I hammer the reality bender. Both deaths are considered weird mechanics.

So I should hammer any person we want to lynch today

which should be mr stole ur girl as it seems he is not in any cults atm.

We're the celtic cult btw

I think Merlin was either the lord of disruption or part of the purple team.

Remember mayor had a specific name.


I don't believe that holy priest bs tbh.

[PowersThatBe]

Also we should try to figure out all the cults today. So we can discover which are real and which are fake.

I assume since I am only in one cult that -- that cult between me voss and goatse is real.

So therefore the cult between rlvg voss and sb might be fake but rlvgs cult with sb and otak is real.

Sb are you in any other cults and if so with whom?

Goatse are you?

Otak you?

We have to becareful because lynching the wrong person will devastate another player which could be bad for us in the majority faction

[RLVG]

I assume since I am only in one cult that -- that cult between me voss and goatse is real.

So therefore the cult between rlvg voss and sb might be fake but rlvgs cult with sb and otak is real.

Stealth is in 2 cults together with me. If you're using logic that you're only in one cult, then you have to assume that both me and Stealth ain't in a real cult either.
Voss is also in 2 cults.

[RLVG]

So how my ability helps here.

are considered weird mechanics.

You're still in a Cult, isn't that a weird mechanic? You avoided a curse, remember?

[Voss]

You're still in a Cult, isn't that a weird mechanic? You avoided a curse, remember?

maybe he avoided the fake cult.

[Voss]

i honestly have no idea what i'm supposed to do anymore.

[RLVG]

maybe he avoided the fake cult.

With that mechanic, he should've avoided both cults.
If we assume that only one player is in a single cult, then we can assume everyone else is in two cults. Hmm.

[Voss]

oh yeah, my theory from yesterday was that accepting otaku's catapult would lead you to the director. now i'm thinking it'll just eject you from this reality.

I'M NOT SAYING RLVG SHOULD DO IT. i'm just saying what i'm thinking.

[Voss]

With that mechanic, he should've avoided both cults.
If we assume that only one player is in a single cult, then we can assume everyone else is in two cults. Hmm.

this did not make any sense.

[RLVG]

oh yeah, my theory from yesterday was that accepting otaku's catapult would lead you to the director. now i'm thinking it'll just eject you from this reality.

Voss, plz. Why not just say, it'll fucking kill you?

[Voss]

Voss, plz. Why not just say, it'll fucking kill you?

that's what i thought originally and floated that idea first.

[RLVG]

RLVG is the fucking King Arthur.
Otaku seems to be a TPR, but we don't really know much of their full role outside of catapult.
Stealthbomber is known as a roleblocker, but we're not even certain what exactly it is other than dimension and no contact.
Voss is the Architect, as previously confirmed. His claim of it being even days is oddly specific however.
PowersThatBe claims being a role that avoids weird mechanics, avoids a curse but is in a single cult - which is contradictory.
MrStoleGurl claims a nonsense role with a specific name, which IMO is a scumslip.
GoatseOntheCupboard is a fucking weird role, ANY DRINK - like, wot. It doesn't fit ANY theme.

At the moment I'm most suspicious of MrStoleGurl, moderate suspicious of PowersThatBe, and mildly suspicious of GotaseOntheCupboard.

I'm more inclined to believe in Voss but I'm a bit alarmed at the restriction of every 2nd day. Otaku seems straight forward about the role, so I'm more inclined to believe them too.
Stealth is a 50-50 in my book, since it's plain open for interpretation.

Fukk dis geme

[RLVG]

Actually, I'm curious. If SB16 is the supposedly roleblocker, why isn't it a priority of scum to kill him?

[PowersThatBe]

Stealth is in 2 cults together with me. If you're using logic that you're only in one cult, then you have to assume that both me and Stealth ain't in a real cult either.
Voss is also in 2 cults.

1. No idea why I was able to be added to a cult.

2. I asked about the hammering and about if voss or goatse are lynched. I avoid both consequences.

3. Without metaing the host..: I think adding me to a cult was a host error, but he can't change it now because two other people saw me in their cult. It could also not be a curse and might be considered apart of standard mafia play I.e. Getting culted is apart of the mod and fm standard and might not be considered weird. I can't say.

4. In terms of fake cults. I believe your cult with otak and sb is real. I think the one you're in with voss is fake. Had my cult been fake my ability would have told me. If I was addded to another one that was fake that one would also fade away.

Assuming my cult is real. That means yours with voss is fake. Any secondary cults otak or goatse are in are also fake. This is just an opinion. But i believe this is most supported by logic.

[PowersThatBe]

Curse =host error lol. I was thinking about how I avoided the curse lol. I meant to write host error not curse

[PowersThatBe]

We all belong to ONE real cult

[RLVG]

1. No idea why I was able to be added to a cult.

2. I asked about the hammering and about if voss or goatse are lynched. I avoid both consequences.

3. Without metaing the host..: I think adding me to a cult was a host error, but he can't change it now because two other people saw me in their cult. It could also not be a curse and might be considered apart of standard mafia play I.e. Getting culted is apart of the mod and fm standard and might not be considered weird. I can't say.

4. In terms of fake cults. I believe your cult with otak and sb is real. I think the one you're in with voss is fake. Had my cult been fake my ability would have told me. If I was addded to another one that was fake that one would also fade away.

Assuming my cult is real. That means yours with voss is fake. Any secondary cults otak or goatse are in are also fake. This is just an opinion. But i believe this is most supported by logic.

1. Tinfoil theory here, but what if you're actually part of Purple Team as Morgan le Fay, and thus you werren't cursed like everyone else because of that, using that as an advantage of saying you're immune to mechanics? When I build the shop, the unholy thing wasn't originally there - which might probably be something Morgan could've added to the shop.
It's just a tinfoil theory to try and make sense, lol.

2. What do you mean?

3. Lol, host error. If you're saying getting culted is part of the mod, which is indirectly caused by the double clash of crusades, wouldn't that mean the shop's unholy item would affect you because it's part of a standard mechanic (the shop)?

4. How can you be so sure of that? It's a biased logic.

[PowersThatBe]

1. Tinfoil theory here, but what if you're actually part of Purple Team as Morgan le Fay, and thus you werren't cursed like everyone else because of that, using that as an advantage of saying you're immune to mechanics? When I build the shop, the unholy thing wasn't originally there - which might probably be something Morgan could've added to the shop.
It's just a tinfoil theory to try and make sense, lol.

2. What do you mean?

3. Lol, host error. If you're saying getting culted is part of the mod, which is indirectly caused by the double clash of crusades, wouldn't that mean the shop's unholy item would affect you because it's part of a standard mechanic (the shop)?

4. How can you be so sure of that? It's a biased logic.

1. Merlin cursed everyone not morgan. Honestly you said you were immune to everything. So actually you shouldn't have been cursed too.

2. I asked if dying by hammering the reality bender would kill me like it will anyone else. I then asked if either member of my cult are lynched, will I also die like it says. He said to me "you are immune to all weird mechanics." That to me is a yes.

3. No I mean getting cutled is part of the sc2 mod and vanilla/quasi vanilla fm set ups. The shop is unique to this game and is a weird mechanic. Hence why my ability works here.

4. I'm not sure. I said it's just an opinion. BUT host literally said, "some cults are fake" then you're placed into 2 cults. Logically you have to assume both cults aren't real or else you're fucked if any of those 3 people get lynched. However, I believe I'm the control group. I'm in one cult and one cult only. I think that people who are in 2, one is fake. Since voss is both in mine and yours, it's logical to assume his with yours is not the real cult. I don't know if that's true. It's just my theory.


In regards to the unholy item. Wido also took it and used it and nothing happened to her or goatse who she targeted. So idk.

[RLVG]

Honestly you said you were immune to everything. So actually you shouldn't have been cursed too.

That's what I find fucking weird. I told you Merlin tried to do a spell on me, failed, and then cursed everyone including myself.
For that matter, Merlin didn't do anything tonight but that's obvious because we lynched Merlin.

2. I asked if dying by hammering the reality bender would kill me like it will anyone else. I then asked if either member of my cult are lynched, will I also die like it says. He said to me "you are immune to all weird mechanics." That to me is a yes.

That doesn't exactly answer the question, lol. That's just putting a statement of your possible role. And weird mechanics, cult ain't?

4. I'm not sure. I said it's just an opinion. BUT host literally said, "some cults are fake" then you're placed into 2 cults. Logically you have to assume both cults aren't real or else you're fucked if any of those 3 people get lynched. However, I believe I'm the control group. I'm in one cult and one cult only. I think that people who are in 2, one is fake. Since voss is both in mine and yours, it's logical to assume his with yours is not the real cult. I don't know if that's true. It's just my theory.

"Some cults are fake" might imply a plural, but you're the one who argued with me about grammatical semantics. So let's see... What if all but one cult is real?

We're 7 players, each cult is 3 players. That's already 2 less players than cult slots can provide (3+3+3), so maybe the reason we got double-cults is because there's not enough players?

And how do you know you're the only one in a cult? Or how do you know your mechanic is here to the rescue? If we assume there's 4 cults (I've only seen 3 so far, but there's players not part of any cult) then it means that it's 3+3+3+3 = 12. Divide on half is 6, there's just one player leftover anyway.

[RLVG]

Mind you, this isn't standard cults. This is part of a mechanic and the cult effect is lost after a lynch, according to the RP flavor.

[PowersThatBe]

That's what I find fucking weird. I told you Merlin tried to do a spell on me, failed, and then cursed everyone including myself.
For that matter, Merlin didn't do anything tonight but that's obvious because we lynched Merlin.



That doesn't exactly answer the question, lol. That's just putting a statement of your possible role. And weird mechanics, cult ain't?



"Some cults are fake" might imply a plural, but you're the one who argued with me about grammatical semantics. So let's see... What if all but one cult is real?

We're 7 players, each cult is 3 players. That's already 2 less players than cult slots can provide (3+3+3), so maybe the reason we got double-cults is because there's not enough players?

And how do you know you're the only one in a cult? Or how do you know your mechanic is here to the rescue? If we assume there's 4 cults (I've only seen 3 so far, but there's players not part of any cult) then it means that it's 3+3+3+3 = 12. Divide on half is 6, there's just one player leftover anyway.

1. Like I said. I assume that was a host error.

2. Again. Cults are apart of standard Mafia play. Having a cult is not necessarily weird. Something that is completely unique to this game and this game only is weird. At least that is my assumption.

3. When did I argue with you about grammatical semenatics? Wasn't that SJ? Lol. Don't confuse me with him.

As of now. Mr stole ur girl isn't apart of any cult.

He could be. But he might not be.


I don't know how many cults are real or not. I just know I am in one. I have to assume my cult is real. This makes sense with being in 2 cults being a weird mechanic. My ability probably made it so I can help town by taking all of the risks or allowing us to make moves that won't be detrimental. Aka lynching the wrong person and causing someone else to die by that accident. I don't know. I really dont. I will assume that my cult is real. Maybe both of yours are real too. It just makes sense to me that one would be real and not the second.

[PowersThatBe]

Mind you, this isn't standard cults. This is part of a mechanic and the cult effect is lost after a lynch, according to the RP flavor.

Again, maybe he accidentally put me in the cult. But being in one cult is not a weird mechanic. Belonging to two at the same time is a weird mechanic.

[RLVG]

What if you're in a fake cult and that's the only cult that's fake? Lol.

As for the semantic thing, sorry if I remembered wrong and it was with SJ.

[PowersThatBe]

What if you're in a fake cult and that's the only cult that's fake? Lol.

As for the semantic thing, sorry if I remembered wrong and it was with SJ.

But a fake cult would be a weird mechanic and therefore it would either tell me or I wouldn't be in one. I'll double check with dw in private. But if I'm in this cult, and it wasn't a host error then it's a real cult and that's all I can assume based on my ability.


And for full transparency. I was originally cursed, and I had to pm dw to tell him he made a mistake and he corrected it and told me I wasn't cursed. This is why I got feedback. I didn't wanna bring it up earlier because I didn't want to get ml due to host error.

But considering you were effected by the curse and now the cult. I think it applicable. Considering both could be host error.

[RLVG]

But a fake cult would be a weird mechanic and therefore it would either tell me or I wouldn't be in one. I'll double check with dw in private. But if I'm in this cult, and it wasn't a host error then it's a real cult and that's all I can assume based on my ability.

Since when is it normal that one cult member is lynched, another cult member dies but the third guy lives?
Cults change win conditions, this doesn't.

[PowersThatBe]

Since when is it normal that one cult member is lynched, another cult member dies but the third guy lives?
Cults change win conditions, this doesn't.

I am immune to that stipulation. That is considered a weird mechanic within the cult. I also believe that mechanic applies because it makes sure each cult member works to save the other cult member because you could die too.

[Voss]

-vote Mr.StoleUrGurl

the role claim doesn't match anyone else's. If I'm alive tomorrow and this game isn't over, I'm going after PTB.

[PowersThatBe]

-vote Mr.StoleUrGurl

the role claim doesn't match anyone else's. If I'm alive tomorrow and this game isn't over, I'm going after PTB.

Bish wahhh?

I'll hammer whatever train y'all want so if we accidentally hit the Reality Bender no one is hit by the negative effects.


And who said my ability was for me only?

[Voss]

@Otakudweeb69 @GoatseOntheCupboard @Stealthbomber16

if y'all aren't going to be around, can you vote so at least game can end faster?

[Otakudweeb69]

Sorry I was busy--
Yes, I did use my role on rlvg, I wanted to prove I was what I said I was.
And what the FUCK just happened

[Otakudweeb69]

"can you vote" there's only one train, and I agree that stole was scummy even before the switch so I'll vote him

However

??? Just happened I was a town power role now I'm part of the Roman cult??

[PowersThatBe]

Sorry I was busy--
Yes, I did use my role on rlvg, I wanted to prove I was what I said I was.
And what the FUCK just happened

we're in cults. Who are you in a cult / cults with. We know about the one you're in with RLVG

[Otakudweeb69]

Am I an evil? Was I not supposed to reveal?

[Otakudweeb69]

Cults? I'm in 1 cult, is everyone else in 2?

[RLVG]

Cults? I'm in 1 cult, is everyone else in 2?

Lol, this proves that Power isn't the only one not in a single cult.

[Voss]

being in a cult today doesn't mean you're evil. we're jsut divided up in groups and if you lynch one person in your group, you have a 50% chance of dying, unless the cult group was fake altogether.

[PowersThatBe]

Lol, this proves that Power isn't the only one not in a single cult.

So this means ur cult with otak and SB IS REAL

This actually validates my theory.

[Otakudweeb69]

Who wasn't in a cult? Just stole?

[Voss]

Who wasn't in a cult? Just stole?

hasn't checked in yet. that slot hasn't made very many posts this game.