S-FM 220: Empire

[deathworlds]

Jailor + Escort is way too OP. SJ is 100% correct here.

Kill it.

Inb4 repeat of M-FM overwatch

[Sino]

No, she just can't pick Jailord tonight.

Didn't Gyrlander say the Emperess pick a role n1 ?

[Calix]

Didn't Gyrlander say the Emperess pick a role n1 ?

He specifically stated that for the JAILOR because jailing is a day action.

[MattZed]

Jailor + Escort is way too OP. SJ is 100% correct here.

Kill it.

How bad is it for town to have two roleblockers in a setup where doesn't even control the NK?

I still have no idea how you still try to host meta possible roles after you got burned in MW2.

[Calix]

How bad is it for town to have two roleblockers in a setup where doesn't even control the NK?

I still have no idea how you still try to host meta possible roles after you got burned in MW2.

Not everyone deliberately trolls the players with their setups.

[ika]

This is a misrep. I never said SilverWolf is not allowed to defend her town reads or clarify things that I seem to be misrepresenting about your work schedule.
I clearly know that Mesk gets on and plays mafia at odd hours (she was here last night near midnight, 9 pm for her)

Obviously no one knows everything about you. I'd like to believe I know something, for everything I don't know, I'll make an assumption to fill in the gaps of information.
People can't be paralyzed by indecision forever. I said there is a disconnect between your belief and your actions. I explicitly stated I don't care how feasible the action was.

And don't go pushing the responsibility to your better half, you said Mesk should be helped. You should have gone to do it, or have tried to do it.

I WAS NOT FUCKIGN AROUND HOW DENSE MUST YOU FUCKING BE TO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT KINDA OF SHIT AND HOW THERE IS NO DICSONNET BETWEEN THAT

YOU BASILY QUESTIONED HER FOR DEFENDING ME AND GAVE AN EQUIVLEWNT OF "FUCK OFF" TO HER

SO NO IM GONNA FUCKING REPEAT MYSELF UNTILLY OU REALIZE IM NOT MISREPRESTING YOU BUT YOU ARE MISREPRESTNING ME AND SEEING HWO I AM NOT AORUND THAT I CAN NOT HELP HER

I AM NOT PAWINGING IT OFF ON SILVERWOLF EITHER I AM JSUT STATING SHE IS THE BETTER HALF AT HELPING, WHY THE FUCKDO YOU THINK WE FUCKING HDYRA EVERY DGOD DAMN GAME

[Unknown1234]

Matt and Deathworlds are both making me want to vote.

On the other hand, Calix and Jack are way too desperate.

[secondpassing]

Secondpassing is the biggest distraction I've seen.

I'm onto something.
Also, if you wanted my opinion on the current situation: I don't think deathworlds is scum.
My gut tells me his lynch is wrong, but I have no real idea where it got that thought.
It is likely the type of squirming being at a high vote count that seem genuine to me.

[Sino]

Matt and Deathworlds are both making me want to vote.

On the other hand, Calix and Jack are way too desperate.

So you're basically wanting to go against everyone here

[Calix]

ika, just ignore SP. He's using you to avoid commenting on the other events.

[SuperJack]

Matt and Deathworlds are both making me want to vote.

On the other hand, Calix and Jack are way too desperate.

Wait until he flips scum then I will laugh in your face.

[Unknown1234]

So you're basically wanting to go against everyone here

Fuck yeah.

[deathworlds]

Wait until he flips scum then I will laugh in your face.

Lol you and Calix are tunnelworldsing me

[Calix]

Fuck's sake, Unknown.

[Unknown1234]

Wait until he flips scum then I will laugh in your face.

Considering you waited until EOD to go on a mass rampage, you earn 0 respect if you're right.

[ika]

ika, just ignore SP. He's using you to avoid commenting on the other events.

I WANT HIS FUCKING HEAD ON A PLATTER. IF ANYHTING MAKES ME 0 TO PISSED OF IS WHEN PEOPLE MISREPRESNT MY RL AND PUT THIS STUPID STANDRAD ON ME WHEN I CAN NOT BEA ROUDND

WHY DO YOU THINK I LOVE THE HDYRA. WHEN IM NOT AROUND SILVER CAN BE

[secondpassing]

I WAS NOT FUCKIGN AROUND HOW DENSE MUST YOU FUCKING BE TO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT KINDA OF SHIT AND HOW THERE IS NO DICSONNET BETWEEN THAT

YOU BASILY QUESTIONED HER FOR DEFENDING ME AND GAVE AN EQUIVLEWNT OF "FUCK OFF" TO HER

SO NO IM GONNA FUCKING REPEAT MYSELF UNTILLY OU REALIZE IM NOT MISREPRESTING YOU BUT YOU ARE MISREPRESTNING ME AND SEEING HWO I AM NOT AORUND THAT I CAN NOT HELP HER

I AM NOT PAWINGING IT OFF ON SILVERWOLF EITHER I AM JSUT STATING SHE IS THE BETTER HALF AT HELPING, WHY THE FUCKDO YOU THINK WE FUCKING HDYRA EVERY DGOD DAMN GAME

This is a misrep. I never said SilverWolf is not allowed to defend her town reads or clarify things that I seem to be misrepresenting about your work schedule.
I clearly know that Mesk gets on and plays mafia at odd hours (she was here last night near midnight, 9 pm for her)

Obviously no one knows everything about you. I'd like to believe I know something, for everything I don't know, I'll make an assumption to fill in the gaps of information.
People can't be paralyzed by indecision forever. I said there is a disconnect between your belief and your actions. I explicitly stated I don't care how feasible the action was.

And don't go pushing the responsibility to your better half, you said Mesk should be helped. You should have gone to do it, or have tried to do it.

Here is your answer.

[Sino]

@Calix Why did you chose to believe my claim over his ?

[ika]

Considering you waited until EOD to go on a mass rampage, you earn 0 respect if you're right.

OMG JUST FUCKING VOTE UNKNOWN. IM SICK AND TIRED OF THIS SHIT AND YOU DOING THIS IS ANTI-TOWN AS FUCK

[Calix]

@Calix Why did you chose to believe my claim over his ?

Because Jailor is a dumb claim for scum to make when Empress can't even replicate Jailor.

Also I didn't know how Jailor worked exactly - I thought it was just the kill it had due to the rolecard presented.

I don't think Jailor/ Escort are a thing.

[Unknown1234]

Why didn't Deathworlds claim earlier so we could have avoided this entire day when we almost lynched him is sad.

[ika]

Here is your answer.

SO I SHOULD JSUT NOT SAY IT INSTEAD? WOW 10/10 LOGIC THERE YOU JSUT BASICLY INVAILDATED YOUR WHOLE ARGUMENT

FUCK OFF

[RLVG]

This is where my vote goes.

-vote MattZed

[deathworlds]

Because Jailor is a dumb claim for scum to make when Empress can't even replicate Jailor.

Also I didn't know how Jailor worked exactly - I thought it was just the kill it had due to the rolecard presented.

I don't think Jailor/ Escort are a thing.

waah, my setup spec is wrong, waah.

[Unknown1234]

OMG JUST FUCKING VOTE UNKNOWN. IM SICK AND TIRED OF THIS SHIT AND YOU DOING THIS IS ANTI-TOWN AS FUCK

IKA, breathe.

[SuperJack]

Considering you waited until EOD to go on a mass rampage, you earn 0 respect if you're right.

Im supposed to go on Mass Ramapge at the start?

I gave DW the chance to explain himself earilier, he ignored my comments and changed his play. And then on only got scummier.

Its the last 30 minuts of the day, of corse I'm rampaging when a no lynch is a terrible Idea.

[Calix]

I told you all that this would happen.

Someone will claim TPR at the last second and everyone runs around with their heads cut off.

[deathworlds]

Why didn't Deathworlds claim earlier so we could have avoided this entire day when we almost lynched him is sad.

Because I was prob gonna be lynched by sino and formed a nice lil' town block.

[SilverWolf]

secondpassing-STFU, seriously you are doing nothing but clogging up the thread with BS rather than talk about the relevant points

Seriously stop!!

[MattZed]

Because Jailor is a dumb claim for scum to make when Empress can't even replicate Jailor.

Also I didn't know how Jailor worked exactly - I thought it was just the kill it had due to the rolecard presented.

I don't think Jailor/ Escort are a thing.

Calix, could Jailor/ Doc be a thing, or does Jailor does preclude all protectives?

I'd like to know how strongly you feel certain role combinations just aren't possible.

[ika]

IKA, breathe.

FUCK OFF AND FUCKING VOTE

NOW YOU GET WHY I HAVE A FUCKING HDYRA WITH SIVLERWOLF

[Unknown1234]

Deathworlds, you did this to yourself if you openly let people vote you until 20 minutes where you expect people to last minute change their minds.

[SuperJack]

5 Minutes Left

[Calix]

UNKNOWN, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES AND HE'S AT L-2

[Unknown1234]

Deathworlds, this is on your head.

-vote Deathworlds

[SilverWolf]

ika-walk away and take a few deep breaths, calm down

[RLVG]

UNKNOWN, WE HAVE THREE MINUTES AND HE'S AT L-2

Calix obv scum.

-vote Calix

[deathworlds]

Deathworlds, you did this to yourself if you openly let people vote you until 20 minutes where you expect people to last minute change their minds.

Because I was more or less confirmable, or empress wastes her action by role blocking me.

[Sino]

Fuck it.

-vote deathworlds

Your call, Unknown

[MattZed]

Deathworlds, you did this to yourself if you openly let people vote you until 20 minutes where you expect people to last minute change their minds.

He wasn't at L-2 or under that serious of a threat to lynch until SJ commented about the Emperor being able to blackmail. It's not DW's fault his roleclaim had to come so late.

[The Godfather]

deathworlds has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


deathworlds (7 [L-0]): Sino, SuperJack, ika, SilverWolf, Calix, Unknown1234, Mesk514
Calix (2 [L-5]): MattZed, RLVG
ika (1 [L-6]): secondpassing

[Gyrlander]

Night One

Deathworlds was lynched! He was an Escort!

Living Players	Dead Players	Roles
@Sino @Unknown1234 @Mesk514 @SuperJack @MattZed @RLVG @yzb25 @SilverWolf @ika @Calix @secondpassing	Deathworlds -Escort	Emperor Empress Emperor's Royal Guard Random Pleb -LEADER- Random Pleb Random Pleb Random Pleb Random Pleb Random Pleb Random Pleb Corrupted Royal Assasin

Day 2 starts in 24 hours.

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[Gyrlander]

Day Two

Unknown died last night. He was a Detective and the ORIGINAL TOWN LEADER.

Living Players	Dead Players	Roles
@Sino @Unknown1234 @Mesk514 @SuperJack @MattZed @RLVG @yzb25 @SilverWolf @ika @Calix @secondpassing	Deathworlds - Escort Unknown1234 - Detective / Original Town Leader	Emperor Empress Emperor's Royal Guard Random Pleb -LEADER- Random Pleb Random Pleb Random Pleb Random Pleb Random Pleb Corrupted Royal Assasin

Night Two starts in 48 hours.

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[Mesk514]

Why would sino hammer if he could have easily used his jail to confirm himself...

[Unknown1234]

Sino can Jail regardless of lynch. Something I realized the scum could not do.

[Sino]

Why would sino hammer if he could have easily used his jail to confirm himself...

Because i was agreeing with SJ, i can still confirm myself by killing.

[Sino]

Sino can Jail regardless of lynch. Something I realized the scum could not do.

No i can't

[Unknown1234]

I'm fairly certain you can Jail but not kill.

[Calix]

[SuperJack]

I've re-read the end of the day, and have updated my read list, combined with a few thoughts and comments about the end of day.
One of the most concerning parts where the amount of people avoiding EoD votes, despite the majority of people agreeing that DW was scum they still seemed very reluctant to lynch him, and would rather leave it to a vulnerable jailer.
And instead tried to de-rail the situation by either trying to create counter trains (Which, at this time would obviously fail) or choose this time to discuss something completly different
(Mz & rlvg @ Mesk, rlvg @ Me, Mz@Unknown Sp @ika , Mz and Rlvg @ Calix)
YZB and Mesk didn't even turn up for EoD. Mesk did inform though.
This list is Town to scum.
And at the end of it, you can understand that Unknown is top of my suspect and is currently my no.1 vote for today. And also seems to be working well with RLVG without much public interaction.
Followed

Calix
I feel like quite a few of our posts, thoughts and goals have been synchronised. I town read her because I feel she has the same town motivation as I do, and making the logically correct moves.
I can safely read her as town. The only thing that is bugging me is that she forgot about the Blackmailer.

Sino
Has Hard-Claimed Jailor, and at this current state, its been unquestioned, universally accepted as true.
I would not believe any scum would have the balls and Idiocy to claim such a role in such a game. Especially Day 1.

ika
Watching him rage like that reminds me of the townie rages that PTB and Duck have done. When ika is scum, he normally just lurks, and when called out for being scum he gives up and rolls over.
This game I am town reading him, he is active and forward, and only seems to be lacking the self-confidence that a town player uncertain of everyone else alignment would show.
Puts a week Sheep vote onto DW #1273

Mesk514
With my current scum reads trying to push it in her direction, I'm more inclined to read her as town for now.
Mesk herself may be only a null from her own posts, but how other people react to her and interact with her helps me determine which alignment I think she is.
Not around for EoD

SilverWolf
Still in my Null tiny town read pile, the only thing that pushes her above the others is her confrontation with YZB which I have only skimmed through
Is bascially just saying Yeh to DW being lynched trying to just be agreeable with the majoirty #1419

Unknown1234
Anti-Policy Jail Mesk #1247

Asks to be Jailed? #1321
Unvotes DW 1430#

secondpassing
Questional Position in #1335
Hinting things that could go wrong at night, and that no kill could happen. And that he -WANTs- to see this happen
He trys to get a wagon on Ika started #1379


yzb25
Not Around for EoD, My next target for a read as I have seen little interaction with him with him other than his jabba with SW.


RLVG
Tried to push a Policy Jail onto Mesk. (Claims he thinks is scum, Will Read back and try to find out Why) Post#1200
(Pushing a Policy jail onto someone who has already claimed their role, to be Jailed by someone who has just had personal confrontation with her, certainly will result in execution)
Calls me Scum for "lurking & showing up late" #1297
Despite himself being away for a large portion of the day. And Unknown brings up that he didn't suggest the same for YZB25 #1300
Joins MZ with the Calix vote #1487

MattZed
Also agrees that Mesk should be Policy Jailed #1246
Claims to have never wanted Mesk to be Jailed (Despite his earlier arguements) #1313

THIS post has turned out to be extremely accurate, I'm getting a sense of TMI from MZ #1388
THIS post where MZ has coincidentally forgotten about the Blackmailer, after spending a good amount of the day talking about the setup but not to worry. Because they probably couldn't cause problems with it anyway (Which shows that he does already have thoughts of how well the Blackmailer can work #1404
Places a vote onto Calix for driving this mess #1432
#1490 Last post, MZ pushed the Blame to me for DW getting lynched. Dispute it being (at the time) the most logical and best move