S-FM 233: 8-2-2

[Hybrid]

Scvmurderer (2 [L-5]):
Hybrid, Mesk514

xramza (1 [L-6]):
SuperJack

TheDarkestLight (2 [L-5]):
Marshmallow Marshall, PIayer

Hybrid (1 [L-6]):
Scvmurderer
why keep voting TDL mm?

[SuperJack]

Your stance? You had suspicion on me because the way I had worded the previous post seemed like I refused to claim an alignment, but I didn't intend it to be so. I didn't specifically acknowledge your claim when I spoke about my automatic leaning towards a neutral perspective - but that could be a sort of defense for what you said against me. I've read FM's more than played, so I default to a neutral POV.

I am completely town and I am looking at the game from the perspective of a townie. I just felt it unnecessary to say it outright.

Though I guess I did that in the first post of the game, even if in a joking way. Your points are valid, I have just been more focused on these other conflicts atm.

More pertinent stuff has come up while I was writing this it seems, I shall return

Nice reply.
But there is honestly no way to defended something if it was sub consciously done ^^
Yet it doesn't put you on the hanger. Just would add to the case.

-unvote

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Ok then so far my reads then i m goin off

Town
RLVG
Mesk
PIayer
xramza
MM he kinda changed my opinion but he can get to scum if he were to twist my words again

Null
SJ(if he were to twist my words again i d get him to scum catogery)
TDL
unknown
wife


Scum
ScvMurderer so much sheeping and lynch happy, can t claim citizen if he were to do that he d be too obv scum

Yay you gave your reads!

Uhhh... Explain why RLVG is at the TOP of your list...
Mesk? Null/minor scum lean for me. I don't get why you think he's town so much.
PIayer? I agree.
Xramza? I agree. Null/minor town lean for me.
Myself? Uh ok. Remember I'm French, And That I Got Hacked By Efekannn. (oops I mean that I don't understand English perfectly lol.)
SJ is still my highest town lean.
TDL's posts seem good. I put him in my minor town leans now.
Dr Unknown? My lean is pretty much... unknown.
Mrtrophywife is null/minor scum lean for me.
Scvmurderer is a null read, I don't know if he's just new and used to the mod too much or if he's scum. I was like him the first time I was town, so I'll give him a chance and say he's just null for now. He may get to scum category if he does susp things.

[SuperJack]

Scvmurderer (2 [L-5]):
Hybrid, Mesk514

xramza (1 [L-6]):
SuperJack

TheDarkestLight (2 [L-5]):
Marshmallow Marshall, PIayer

Hybrid (1 [L-6]):
Scvmurderer
why keep voting TDL mm?

Because he has not changed it yet.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Scvmurderer (2 [L-5]):
Hybrid, Mesk514

xramza (1 [L-6]):
SuperJack

TheDarkestLight (2 [L-5]):
Marshmallow Marshall, PIayer

Hybrid (1 [L-6]):
Scvmurderer
why keep voting TDL mm?

What what? Crap... I didn't realize my pressure vote was still on him lol. Sorry xD

-unvote

Thanks Hybrid for letting me know lol

[Hybrid]

Yay you gave your reads!

Uhhh... Explain why RLVG is at the TOP of your list...
Mesk? Null/minor scum lean for me. I don't get why you think he's town so much.
PIayer? I agree.
Xramza? I agree. Null/minor town lean for me.
Myself? Uh ok. Remember I'm French, And That I Got Hacked By Efekannn. (oops I mean that I don't understand English perfectly lol.)
SJ is still my highest town lean.
TDL's posts seem good. I put him in my minor town leans now.
Dr Unknown? My lean is pretty much... unknown.
Mrtrophywife is null/minor scum lean for me.
Scvmurderer is a null read, I don't know if he's just new and used to the mod too much or if he's scum. I was like him the first time I was town, so I'll give him a chance and say he's just null for now. He may get to scum category if he does susp things.

RLVG secret, also If i want i can borrow efe's acc and act like him and join forum mafias etc, i m so good at immitating him. Tbh, tdl seems all shiny and dendy cause of it he s null, SJ twisted my words twice if i were not to give him a proper answer he d just get me lynched whatever the case is except he is jailor vigi or mayor or marshall he will never be 100% town in my eye or wont even pass 75%

[Hybrid]

What what? Crap... I didn't realize my pressure vote was still on him lol. Sorry xD

-unvote

Thanks Hybrid for letting me know lol

[SuperJack]

Ok then so far my reads then i m goin off

Town
RLVG
Mesk
PIayer
xramza
MM he kinda changed my opinion but he can get to scum if he were to twist my words again

Null
SJ(if he were to twist my words again i d get him to scum catogery)
TDL
unknown
wife


Scum
ScvMurderer so much sheeping and lynch happy, can t claim citizen if he were to do that he d be too obv scum

You are basically threatening. Telling me not to pressure you or else you will call me scum because "I'm twisting your words"
But that's scum hunting, unless someone " I am scum" it is twisting words. The scum have twisted their words to look townie and it's town's job to untwist them to reveal the scum.

-vote Hybrid

[Mesk514]

Could you answer my previous post plz.

???? Can I get a quote plz

[Hybrid]

You are basically threatening. Telling me not to pressure you or else you will call me scum because "I'm twisting your words"
But that's scum hunting, unless someone " I am scum" it is twisting words. The scum have twisted their words to look townie and it's town's job to untwist them to reveal the scum.

-vote Hybrid

AGAIN HE TWISTED MY WORDS (in wihte)
I DIDN T EVEN SAY THAT IF U PRESSURE ME I LL ASSUME YOU SCUM
I said that if you TWIST MY words again that i will assume you are scum. Which you did read it again.

-vote SuperJack

[SuperJack]

AGAIN HE TWISTED MY WORDS (in wihte)
I DIDN T EVEN SAY THAT IF U PRESSURE ME I LL ASSUME YOU SCUM
I said that if you TWIST MY words again that i will assume you are scum. Which you did read it again.

-vote SuperJack

Omgus

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Mesk, why are you still voting Scvmurderer? I feel like you are sheeping Hybrid. And I still suspect Hybrid. So I'm not glad with it lol.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

AGAIN HE TWISTED MY WORDS (in wihte)
I DIDN T EVEN SAY THAT IF U PRESSURE ME I LL ASSUME YOU SCUM
I said that if you TWIST MY words again that i will assume you are scum. Which you did read it again.

-vote SuperJack

SJ is right: OMGUS.

-vote Hybrid

OMGUS + Reactionary vote + Bullshit + No contribution = SCUM.

[Hybrid]

Omgus

i really hate you... espeacilly when we are playing togheter...
as i said you twisted my word (the one in white sentece) so now i m voting you. There s nothing wrong with it. So it s not a situation like u voted me so u has to be scum, you just keep twisting people's words and when we do to you, you are being defensif as hell. You are on my scumlist now.

[Hybrid]

SJ is right: OMGUS.

-vote Hybrid

OMGUS + Reactionary vote + Bullshit + No contribution = SCUM.

I m feeling like my posts aint getting enough care read the posts again you dumbass... See how he twisted my words to get me offguard and get the lynch potentional out of me like he did in ?????? game

[Marshmallow Marshall]

i really hate you... espeacilly when we are playing togheter...
as i said you twisted my word (the one in white sentece) so now i m voting you. There s nothing wrong with it. So it s not a situation like u voted me so u has to be scum, you just keep twisting people's words and when we do to you, you are being defensif as hell. You are on my scumlist now.

Uh what? He's not being defensive as hell. However, you are. ++++++scumpoints.

[Hybrid]

Uh what? He's not being defensive as hell. However, you are. ++++++scumpoints.

ok i have to quote that. 1 min

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I m feeling like my posts aint getting enough care read the posts again you dumbass... See how he twisted my words to get me offguard and get the lynch potentional out of me like he did in ?????? game

I honestly don't think ???? should be an argument, since the game was weird as fuck. I don't even remember what SJ was in that game :P

[SuperJack]

xramza didn't react like you did.

[PIayer]

I'm awaking folks, let me catch up

[Hybrid]

Alignment does not equal role.
Nice try in trying to twist my words.

the thing he was saying to "nice try"

The person hatrs claiming now wants the people wallpossting to claim a role?

Which was logical y'know everyone in this game would claim Town as an allginment not neutral role so him asking allgiment is litreally him asking role which it was scummy as fuck as well but no one really did see that.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I'm awaking folks, let me catch up

Well you're better catch up fast, because you have like 15 pages to read... xD welcome to the club PIayer

[Marshmallow Marshall]

the thing he was saying to "nice try"


Which was logical y'know everyone in this game would claim Town as an allginment not neutral role so him asking allgiment is litreally him asking role which it was scummy as fuck as well but no one really did see that.

And when did he ask us to claim a role in a wallpost, pray tell?

[Hybrid]

xramza didn't react like you did.

i don t care how i acted against your huge changings to my words. There was still a lot of suspicon on me and still you just go ahead and "let s push hybrid more for funzies lol" or "he s 'bout to get lynched he s a easy fish to catch let s get him lynched" that s what your behaviors tells to me rn after the game ??????

[SuperJack]

the thing he was saying to "nice try"


Which was logical y'know everyone in this game would claim Town as an allginment not neutral role so him asking allgiment is litreally him asking role which it was scummy as fuck as well but no one really did see that.

Lol seriously this again? Didn't we get over it?

[Hybrid]

And when did he ask us to claim a role in a wallpost, pray tell?

It's really weird the way you worded it.
You previously where neutral but you never played town before.
Yet it's worded so your not claiming what your alignment is, rather you avoided it yet made it look like you are suggesting your town. When intact you are not claiming any alignment.

here he justasked for his allgiment, why d he do that since he knew he d say i m town, he was just asking for his role litreally.

[Hybrid]

Lol seriously this again? Didn't we get over it?

nope, i didn't and what happend? You used Lol atm, why? You coulda just say sth like "yes i did" if u were to be town, at least i d do

[Marshmallow Marshall]

i don t care how i acted against your huge changings to my words. There was still a lot of suspicon on me and still you just go ahead and "let s push hybrid more for funzies lol" or "he s 'bout to get lynched he s a easy fish to catch let s get him lynched" that s what your behaviors tells to me rn after the game ??????

Objection! This is not a defense, Your Honor.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

here he justasked for his allgiment, why d he do that since he knew he d say i m town, he was just asking for his role litreally.

And this justifies a vote against him?

[Hybrid]

So now, as I said, my vote is on SJ since he s been twisting my words and posts 3 times in a row and just keep doing it therefore it made my defence to be much more harder. If i had acted so excited it s SJ's fault done.

Scum readsJ and ScvMurderer

[Hybrid]

And this justifies a vote against him?

i may post the twisted posts outted by me if you want. Also you are not the one to say that mr blaming scum by showing love to someoneelse

[Marshmallow Marshall]

So now, as I said, my vote is on SJ since he s been twisting my words and posts 3 times in a row and just keep doing it therefore it made my defence to be much more harder. If i had acted so excited it s SJ's fault done.

Scum readsJ and ScvMurderer

Objection! You are the suspect, not the interrogator. Defend yourself, stop attacking your voters.

[Hybrid]

Zeratul, I know you are retarded as fuck and can't think about how much games have SJ played as well as hosted and spectated. He knows how to twist words as well as how to frame people and get them lynched easily. If he was scum like in the game that i was mafia, i d get rid of him ASAP. Won't tell why or else it ll make a disadvantage to me in future games.

[Hybrid]

Objection! You are the suspect, not the interrogator. Defend yourself, stop attacking your voters.

Nope, I am both of them. Best defence is to attack. So just shut up.

[SuperJack]

I wanted him to defend his post. The way it was worked specifically avoided saying he was Town I'm this game, yet freely told us other similar yet mostly useless information. He could of simply said this was his first game as town, but he didn't. He made a more complicated explanation.

I call it a subconscious claim that he isn't town.

I wanted to see how he reacted and his reason, if he was scum his reaction would of been different. But he managed to post a non-scum reply. (Does not confirm him as town though)

At no point did I ask for his role.

You claimed that. Which is a lie. You are lying to try and lower my credibility.

[Hybrid]

I wanted him to defend his post. The way it was worked specifically avoided saying he was Town I'm this game, yet freely told us other similar yet mostly useless information. He could of simply said this was his first game as town, but he didn't. He made a more complicated explanation.

I call it a subconscious claim that he isn't town.

I wanted to see how he reacted and his reason, if he was scum his reaction would of been different. But he managed to post a non-scum reply. (Does not confirm him as town though)

At no point did I ask for his role.

You claimed that. Which is a lie. You are lying to try and lower my credibility.

Like you did to me ^^ so now will you stop accusing me and go on playing? Or else i will really turn into a mafioso. My defences are always assaults and i won't ever defend my posts. As i said if you wantwhy i assume scvmurderer is mafia go ahead and check it my internet is so slow i can t be bothered with it.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I wanted him to defend his post. The way it was worked specifically avoided saying he was Town I'm this game, yet freely told us other similar yet mostly useless information. He could of simply said this was his first game as town, but he didn't. He made a more complicated explanation.

I call it a subconscious claim that he isn't town.

I wanted to see how he reacted and his reason, if he was scum his reaction would of been different. But he managed to post a non-scum reply. (Does not confirm him as town though)

At no point did I ask for his role.

You claimed that. Which is a lie. You are lying to try and lower my credibility.

Indeed.

He did that to me previously.

And don't say you're not the suspect. Lol. Gtg for a while. Bye bye

[Hybrid]

Indeed.

He did that to me previously.

And don't say you're not the suspect. Lol. Gtg for a while. Bye bye

As i said my defence is my assault ^^ if you attack me i will atttack you twice, so that you wont have the power to attack me.
NOW STOP ACCUSTING ME AS A SCUM I REALLY WANT TO WIN CRYLANDER S SAVE

[SuperJack]

Like you did to me ^^ so now will you stop accusing me and go on playing? Or else i will really turn into a mafioso. My defences are always assaults and i won't ever defend my posts. As i said if you wantwhy i assume scvmurderer is mafia go ahead and check it my internet is so slow i can t be bothered with it.

I'm gonna eat Pizza. Bye. I'll be back tonight.

[PIayer]

SJ vote is ridiculous, why not pressure anyone else Hybrid ? I said earlier it was either pro cit play or mastermind DH play but either way he's contributing more than anybody else so doesn't make sense at all to lynch. Plus if actually mastermind scum this soft pressure won't have any effect

Wall of quotes inc but I don't have much time

[Hybrid]

nooo i wanna spend more time with you player, you are the only one here who loves me

[Hybrid]

Also @SuperJack there were no ways here to me to defend my post with thatr poor IC and after all those assumptions that i was evil it was just too much, i bet u d die after those assumptions just like in the game i was mafia.

[PIayer]

Ok. First of all, I tried to make people get active. Not actively shitpost, because it was ALREADY happening. And yes, by doing so, I may get town points. It's good to have town points when you're town :P

Now, for the Hybrid situation.

1) Am I exe? I know Hybrid since several months now, maybe a year. We played a lot together. He is very obvious when he's scum, but I'm always the only one to find it out and then he wins that makes me rage a bit when it happens. He usually takes a "am I jester? am I some town invest wanting to be known?" to finally just be a Mafia member. Right now, his play is very similar to his scum pattern in the mod. Plus his posts were scummy af lol...

2) Is Hybrid jester? As jester, Hybrid doesn't use spam like that. He will just "slip" enough for someone to notice, then get lynched. He didn't do that here, he literally acted in a way to confuse the Town. Any townie that wants to confuse the Town is terrible. Hybrid is not terrible but tries to confuse the Town. So, Hybrid is not a towny (and not a jester, because the Jester will try to make a clear case against himself.)

3) RLVG/TDL These guys are indeed scummy. I'd like to hear them a bit more.

I just looked at your post again, and you say you gave me +scumpoints for defending you?! Okay... In the beggining, you tried to make town less confused, while saying nothing scummy. I had a town lean on you, because a new player who gets a scum role will very probably be more obvious than that. So basically, if I vote you, I'll get town points? ;) I'm kidding here, but your reasoning was weird.

I still can't see you being exe atm, and Hybrid can still be Jester.
Yeah I give you scumpoints for defending me blindly, don't take it bad, I think it's rational. And yeah I gave SJ town points not just for voting me but for voting me with decent enough reasons. Reasons is the only thing I'm after here.
Still, I don't buy what Hybrid says about you, think to you as a town atm. I may go in depht later when I'm back from work

Look at the vote count. Hybrid and Mesk voting Scvmurderer. What a surprise, they are voting the same!

I don't think it mean much, Scvmurderer is also acting susp. Got a not-that-good vibe from him so far.

I STARTED A FIRE

Yup lol. I hope you'll use your vagina soon to help us extinguish now

hehehe, now that you got your counter dialouge now u can't push as hard as you could before right? so sad exe so sad. Also no lover no jester. MM= Exe

So may you shut up? You are kinda trying to give evils free win lol

How would you know there's no lover no jester? This is pure BS

btw +scum points to MM just because he gave up on lynching me and started to poke out the afks, as well as tryuing to waste jailor/vig's kills
even if u aint exe, you are 60% scum atm if u really are twon try to get me lynched

Poking AFK makes sense to me from a town perspective, so either no, or explain better please.

I would not disagree with Scv or MM being the lynch of this list. Even if they survive and the game moves forwards I don't think I see either, particularly Scv, being useful to the town. Hybrid at the least has done well at calling a few points out. I will be saving my vote until later today, by then I hope that the lesser contributors weigh in.

I agree Scv is not useful at all atm. To me he's on the verge to fall into category 4. On the other hand I see MM actively trying to contribute. I have little basis to tinfoil MM or SJ being mastermind scum atm, sticking to the facts they both try to get the game going in a good way, and that's whatever their alignment.
We could better use the pressure on other people atm imo.

Some people have different time zones and life time table.
I assure you TDL is a very capable player.
Don't make such a big deal about it.

Alright, but at least confirm me it makes sense trying to get the most quiet to talk.
TDL being very capable by your book is meta, I've yet to seen him contribute to the town

He answered, but still not contributed to anything imo. Still, would have switched my vote on RLVG but I'm okay with leaving him more time as his irl issue may well be real.

If anybody have something to say about poking the less active before the obvious scumlean Hybrid/SCV please do

[Hybrid]

So now, the ScvMurderer thing, he is obvious scum cause of his behaviours behind his votes against eveyone. Whoever MM assumes evil, he just jumps into it without giving a real lead

Spoiler : his votes so far :

And when did he ask us to claim a role in a wallpost, pray tell?

It's really weird the way you worded it.
You previously where neutral but you never played town before.
Yet it's worded so your not claiming what your alignment is, rather you avoided it yet made it look like you are suggesting your town. When intact you are not claiming any alignment.

here he justasked for his allgiment, why d he do that since he knew he d say i m town, he was just asking for his role litreally.

this one has more of a influence of Otaku which is more underground atm, he has a null read for now but he suddenly may become evil, after that post

-vote mesk514

We all agreed day 1 lynches, lets do it

No we didnt, only u, mm and otaku did. MM wasn't that sure enough after that the weird post of him...

Notice Me superjack, I need your attention.

Why'd he need your attention? Let s assume that MM is cit, maybe ScvMurderer is lover or triad with SJ cause he wants his attention? It's the same logic with me and mesk.

Hm the hybrid/mesk love comes out again. You two defend each other all game.

that s utterly a lie, i ve always defended myself. And said who i think evil is which s him.

This is what I wanted to say. I don't think he's jester. I know Hybrid. If this was the mod and that I was a citizen, I'd say that he is a Neutral Killing role (yes I know there's none.) That's how he plays Arsonist. I think he is the Triad Random.

[QUOTE=Scvmurderer;695860]Hm, Hybrid has been particularly aggressive and defensive against accusations of scumminess, at least a lot more then mesk.

Hm, Hybrid has been particularly aggressive and defensive against accusations of scumminess, at least a lot more then mesk.

-vote Hybrid

If I could vote both of you I would but hybrids the aggressive one here.

what's that i see a goatse play here, yolo voting like him. In that game i won. The scum vote is here. Right there. It perfectly matches with goatse's srsly.

[PIayer]

nooo i wanna spend more time with you player, you are the only one here who loves me

You forgot Mesk already! <3

You promised you'll start contributing better to the town (even stealing the town lead from SJ) and I would actually be glad if you seriously did so

Meanwhile, you're still not worth lynching atm imo, we got more important issues to address

[PIayer]

One a side note, "RED IS MAFIA" was definitely a thing D1 in the mod. Is "PURPLE IS TRIAD" a thing? (<.< RLVG)

[Hybrid]

How would you know there's no lover no jester? This is pure BS



Poking AFK makes sense to me from a town perspective, so either no, or explain better please.

1st i was assuming MM as an exer so there d be no chance to neu benign
2nd he wanted to waste vig/jailor kill to me with no real reason. that s the point i wanted to point out if he really was town he would ve get me lynched was what i meant

[Hybrid]

One a side note, "RED IS MAFIA" was definitely a thing D1 in the mod. Is "PURPLE IS TRIAD" a thing? (<.< RLVG)

RLVG is town, trust me. I won't say why i think like that so.

[Hybrid]

That'd make him #1 hit for mafia

[Hybrid]

Tho even saying that made him #1 hit for them, so i ll just go ahead and say it
HE
IS
THE
MOST
OBV
TOWN
KILLING
OR
POWER
ROLE
I
VE
EVER
SEEN

or gov which has 30% chance