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    Re: 7 of my friends changed gender today

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    I have proof that PTB said I could be his once and a lifetime female fuck.
    This is true. Also, me personally I am open to falling for anyone, despite their gender/identity. However, I've only found myself to be attracted to men overwhelmingly more than any female I've been attracted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    @RLVG

    Look what you have caused. Seems like everyone who posted is now confused about their own gender and are venting their frustration into opinions.
    Oh no, looks like I've become a Gender Villian.

    It's a very controversial topic though so quite often it leads to a long debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    This is true. Also, me personally I am open to falling for anyone, despite their gender/identity. However, I've only found myself to be attracted to men overwhelmingly more than any female I've been attracted to.
    dude, you just need 15 minutes with me and i'll fix all your problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    Oh no, looks like I've become a Gender Villian.

    It's a very controversial topic though so quite often it leads to a long debate.
    We have proven the butterfly effect.

    By norway passsing a law the sc2mafia community now has proven to be very divisive in their political opinions which we previously didn't know, which will change people's reactions to each other in games from now on.

    Good Job @RLVG

    Science at work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


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    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    I thought the article did a good job of explaining it, so I picked it. IDC if it was peer reviewed or not, I was just trying to help you to understand, since you claim to want to understand.

    What do you identify as, if not straight?
    Thankyou for the long post. That was what I was trying to get from you with the first post, but I couldn't think of a less obscure way of asking for it.

    I don't identify as anything. I put my penis in what I want to put my penis in, given that it gives informed consent and all that shit, and have never felt a need to "define" my sexuality or gender, because I don't use either to help construct my "identity", whatever the fuck that is. As you said, we're all bisexual on an abstract level, though I have a clear preference for the opposite sex, I've occasionally felt an attraction to men before, so *shrug*.

    Anyone can feel physical pleasure from anything, given the correct context, and people lean towards feminity or masculinity in different contexts. The "he's homosexual, he's straight" and the "he's a boy, she's a girl" thing seems to come from people with a very traditionalist view on sexuality and gender, so it's rather unfitting for us "enlightened progressives" to use such labels too, dontcha think? :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    @RLVG

    Look what you have caused. Seems like everyone who posted is now confused about their own gender and are venting their frustration into opinions.
    I would go gay for this man.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mesk514 View Post
    dude, you just need 15 minutes with me and i'll fix all your problems.
    What problem? He doesn't have a problem, you saying he has a problem? Rudeeeeee

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    We have proven the butterfly effect.

    By norway passsing a law the sc2mafia community now has proven to be very divisive in their political opinions which we previously didn't know, which will change people's reactions to each other in games from now on.

    Good Job @RLVG

    Science at work.
    Nah you will just claim mafia and solve the game for us~.




    #rainbowflag

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    We have proven the butterfly effect.

    By norway passsing a law the sc2mafia community now has proven to be very divisive in their political opinions which we previously didn't know, which will change people's reactions to each other in games from now on.

    Good Job @RLVG

    Science at work.
    This will conclude by a nuclear explosion in Ohio, somehow.

    At least I know some political views of people here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    This will conclude by a nuclear explosion in Ohio, somehow.

    At least I know some political views of people here.
    Ummm....

    https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/02/breaki...ion/index.html

    How.....
    Last edited by ThePaladin; July 3rd, 2016 at 02:05 PM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


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    I don't think being gay is a choice per se, but then again I don't really believe in choice so, meh. If you have to ask I'll just say I am a determinist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Nice tu quoque attempt. So many fallacies from the bigots in this thread.
    Just asking to see if you know what constitutes as a mental illness. I'll give you a hint, its an abnormality within brain chemistry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    @Ash

    Not every transgender individual experiences gender disphoria. Gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder. The critical element of gender dysphoria is the presence of clinically significant distress associated with the condition.
    I'm actually starting to believe that you're retarded. You're starting to pick at straws. Yes, technically gender nonconformity by itself is not a mental disorder. If you're a child you need to have 6 of the following 8 conditions in order to be classified with Gender Dysphoria for at least 6 months.

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    1. A strong desire to be of the other gender or an insistence that one is the other gender(or some alternative gender different from one’s assigned gender).
    2. In boys (assigned gender), a strong preference for cross-dressing or simulating femaleattire: or in girls (assigned gender), a strong preference for wearing only typicalmasculine clothing and a strong resistance to the wearing of typical feminineclothing.
    3. A strong preference for cross-gender roles in make-believe play or fantasy play.
    4. A strong preference for the toys, games, or activities stereotypically used or engagedin by the other gender.
    5. A strong preference for playmates of the other gender.
    6. In boys (assigned gender), a strong rejection of typically masculine toys, games,and activities and a strong avoidance of rough-and-tumble play; or in girls (assignedgender), a strong rejection of typically feminine toys, games, and activities.
    7. A strong dislike of one’s sexual anatomy.
    8. A strong desire for the primary and/or secondary sex characteristics that matchone’s experienced gender.


    As for adults, you only need to have 2 of the following 6 conditions for at least 6 months.

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    1. A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and primaryand/or secondary sex characteristics (or in young adolescents, the anticipatedsecondary sex characteristics).
    2.A strong desire to be rid of one’s primary and/or secondary sex characteristics becauseof a marked incongruence with one’s experienced/expressed gender (or inyoung adolescents, a desire to prevent the development of the anticipated secondarysex characteristics).
    3. A strong desire for the primary and/or secondary sex characteristics of the othergender.
    4. A strong desire to be of the other gender (or some alternative gender different fromone’s assigned gender).
    5. A strong desire to be treated as the other gender (or some alternative gender differentfrom one’s assigned gender).
    6. A strong conviction that one has the typical feelings and reactions of the other gender(or some alternative gender different from one’s assigned gender).


    So basically, not all "transgender" children may be diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria right away, because you have to meet 6 of the 8 standards. However, as for adults and adolescents, that's different because you only need to meet 2 of the 6. "Transexual" is kind of a loose term, but we can safely say that those individuals that undergo sex change DO have this disorder because they automatically fit into adult category #2 and #4. On top of this, most transexuals (not all, but most from what I've seen from personal experience and videos) automatically fit #5 and #6. If an individual claims to be a transgender, and they only manage to meet 1 of the 6 standards, then they must be a very rare case.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Paladin gave an incomplete story with that reference to the DSM. It used to be Gender Identity Disorder, which is what you were referring to, a classification of mental illness, but now has been reclassified.

    Homosexuality used to also be classified as a mental disorder and has been removed as it is now understood to not be. Get with the times you dinosaur.
    I honestly have no idea what you're talking about here. Gender Dysphoria is a type of Gender Identity Disorder. Reclassification does not make my point invalid. Also I'm not sure why you're bringing up the topic of homosexuality. Did I ever say that homosexuality was a mental disorder? Don't put words into my mouth.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    I see MZ took ducks cock out of his mouth for a second. How's it taste?
    Maybe they'll place his cock in your new vagina next, eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Cite your sources that sex reassignment doesn't help. Prove your points. And no, everyone is entitled to their private business. YOU are not entitled to know what anyone in your society is doing if it has nothing to do with you. Stop with your retarded logic.

    Your last few sentences prove you're nothing more than an ignorant bigot who clearly has no fucking idea what he's talking about.

    ALSO: Educate your fucking self, it's not just LETS DO SURGERY. SNIP SNIP. https://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Gender-...Treatment.aspx

    ALSO: READ THIS: The fucking regret and shame they feel isn't because of the surgery, or any treatment, it comes from the fucking bullying of people in society like YOU. https://transadvocate.com/fact-check-...al_n_15483.htm -- skip to the bottom, they have a TL;DR

    It's a long and sometimes painful process because its hard to change, but when they do change they feel complete in most cases, they feel they are finally where they should, they're the happiest they've been. Not everyone get's the surgery, not everyone is the same. But every one of you ignorant assholes who thing you can control someone are. Their life is not your fucking business, it does not impact you whatsoever, and don't even say that it does. Because it fucking doesn't, get your small minded ass out of your poop-hole. So sick of people like you who just spew ignorant bullshit because you're too fucking stupid to realize what you're saying is both stupid and backwards.
    More ad hominem. You keep saying that the regret and shame they feel is a result of "bullying" however that is not true for all cases. That's a fallacy of the single cause. I already said that some transexuals do feel satisfied, but some simply don't because of how much pain they have to undergo through surgery, and because their body may not feel "natural". I'm sure there are other causes, but I'm not a fucking expert. Here's an example of one.
    Skip to 27:56.

    Even if harassment and bullying etc. were the prime cause of depression and anxiety, why should we encourage a treatment that society frowns upon?

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Its not a mental illness. You said technically Ash was right when he's completely off the mark.
    Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness. You're really stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho View Post
    Then call it a condition not an illness. Illness makes it seem like schizophrenia, which its not.

    Ash is conflating gender disphoria with being transgender, and flat out stating that all transgender individuals are mentally ill. There is nothing "technically correct" about that statement and instead of defending yourself over agreeing with him on that you should correct him.
    Your argument is very weak.

    Quote Originally Posted by PowersThatBe View Post
    Ash is saying all people who are transgender have GID, which is untrue. Some who have GID are transgendered, some who have GID are not. So technically, no he's not correct, and he's a bigoted asshole.
    Can you give me an example instead of just calling me a bigoted asshole?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    Gender Identity Disorder is also no longer recognized by the APA since DSM-V.
    Gender Dysphoria falls under it. It's basically the same thing. No need to get technical over it.
    Last edited by Ash; July 3rd, 2016 at 02:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post


    Gender Dysphoria falls under it. It's basically the same thing. No need to get technical over it.
    It is different since an "identity" tends to be related to separate personality(s).

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


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    Re: 7 of my friends changed gender today

    @Ash -- society once frowned upon black people being seen as anything more than property. Your arguments are shit.

    Homosexuality was once a disorder, and sodomy laws were once on the books. History has shown that society is often wrong about the "norm." So no, anyone who is transgendered should not be forced to live in the body they don't feel comfortable in if it's their choice to change. Therapy is already an option for people who want it. Your arguments lack any substance and it reeks of an extremely closed minded and ignorant opinion.
    Last edited by PowersThatBe; July 3rd, 2016 at 03:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    How would you treat your child if you found out they were LGBTQ
    If I'm being honest, I would be concerned. LGBT statistically have more mental health concerns and are often troubled. I would be concerned for my childs happiness most of all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quick View Post
    If I'm being honest, I would be concerned. LGBT statistically have more mental health concerns and are often troubled. I would be concerned for my childs happiness most of all.
    You do realized they are troubled because of the way society treats them, though?

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    How would you treat your child if you found out they were LGBTQ
    I would treat them like normal, and take them to church and make them a proud Christian. No son of mine is going to become an atheist cuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    I would treat them like normal, and take them to church and make them a proud Christian. No son of mine is going to become an atheist cuck.
    Would you tell your child they are mentally ill and try to make them straight?

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    Would you tell your child they are mentally ill and try to make them straight?
    Homosexuals are actually superior to heteros. They could become a proud homosexual Christian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    You do realized they are troubled because of the way society treats them, though?
    Possibly, but the lines are a bit blurry to tell the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    I would treat them like normal, and take them to church and make them a proud Christian. No son of mine is going to become an atheist cuck.
    What would you do if your son became an atheist/non-religious or switched religions?


    (Cause we aren't touching on enough sensitive topics)

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    I would treat them like normal, and take them to church and make them a proud Christian. No son of mine is going to become an atheist cuck.
    You do realise that the Church will (usually, majority) actually make them worse by a bullshit public excorcism, scaring them and usually leading to physical punishment in order to "Teach them" to keep quiet, while never fixing the issue? And most of these lead to throwing the kid out on the street or being adopted?

    The suicide and homicide rates caused of this thing is enormous.



    Don't take them to the church to "cure" transexuality or homosexuality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLVG View Post
    You do realise that the Church will (usually, majority) actually make them worse by a bullshit public excorcism, scaring them and usually leading to physical punishment in order to "Teach them" to keep quiet, while never fixing the issue? And most of these lead to throwing the kid out on the street or being adopted?

    The suicide and homicide rates caused of this thing is enormous.



    Don't take them to the church to "cure" transexuality or homosexuality.
    Yup, truth. Church does more harm than good.

    https://m.deseretnews.com/article/865...ty.html?pg=all
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaCucho

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    Re: 7 of my friends changed gender today

    Since the discussion is still going on and I don't want to end my input with a post that causes anger.

    First, my view is that homosexuality is an abnormal condition. And I don't carry any hatred or disrespect whatsoever do those who are LGBT. I understand that the term mental illness may carry weight but I don't mean it in an insulting way. What I mean by not giving support is that we shouldn't do something encourage LGBT, some may misunderstand me there. After all, in the non-western part of tbe world and my country, LGBT is still considered unacceptable. Isn't it okay to think that something is wrong?

    Secondly, if you guys insult people like me for bigotry and ignorance. That isn't healthy to the society either, if you shit on those who don't agree with LGBT then that isn't going to change their opinion and is just another form of oppression.

    I believe that we can continue this discussion from both points of view without resorting to insults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatalis View Post
    Since the discussion is still going on and I don't want to end my input with a post that causes anger.

    First, my view is that homosexuality is an abnormal condition. And I don't carry any hatred or disrespect whatsoever do those who are LGBT. I understand that the term mental illness may carry weight but I don't mean it in an insulting way. What I mean by not giving support is that we shouldn't do something encourage LGBT, some may misunderstand me there. After all, in the non-western part of tbe world and my country, LGBT is still considered unacceptable. Isn't it okay to think that something is wrong?

    Secondly, if you guys insult people like me for bigotry and ignorance. That isn't healthy to the society either, if you shit on those who don't agree with LGBT then that isn't going to change their opinion and is just another form of oppression.

    I believe that we can continue this discussion from both points of view without resorting to insults.
    Hey, The APA hasn't even recognized homosexuality as even something to be psychiatriclly treated [much less a mental illness](since the 1980's I believe?)

    If you are going to make a claim calling it an mental illness, you are expected to back it up with evidence and show a chain of logic proving why it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


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    just because a belief is popular doesnt make it right

    we all know you live in a shitty third world country anyway fatalis, what was it again? like malaysia? capital of trans genders and sex trafficking for little kids?

    oh but no, you guys are morally sound

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post
    Hey, The APA hasn't even recognized homosexuality as even something to be psychiatriclly treated [much less a mental illness](since the 1980's I believe?)

    If you are going to make a claim calling it an mental illness, you are expected to back it up with evidence and show a chain of logic proving why it is.
    ThePaladin, I would continue the discussion but I'm done if people can't see my opinion as nothing more than offensive and decides to attack me via rep messages and (wrongly) call me homophobic.

    Seriously, if I think that Alzheimer is a mental illness and then 50 years later science-wise and social-wise people state that it is natural, does that mean I hate and insult people with Alzheimer? Am I Alzheimer-phobic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatalis View Post
    ThePaladin, I would continue the discussion but I'm done if people can't see my opinion as nothing more than offensive and decides to attack me via rep messages and (wrongly) call me homophobic.

    Seriously, if I think that Alzheimer is a mental illness and then 50 years later science-wise and social-wise people state that it is natural, does that mean I hate and insult people with Alzheimer? Am I Alzheimer-phobic?
    oh you're not homophobic, right?

    i fucking hate jews, hitler was totally right... but don't worry, i'm not an anti-semite. it's ok for me to be backwards cause my country is too

    answer the fucking question: are you, or are you not, from a shitty third world country?\

    fucking some shithole southern asian country. vietnam, taiwan, malaysia, some bullshit area like that. where prostitution and fucking little kids is pretty acceptable, but not being gay


    there's gay members of this site, yet here you sit calling them mentally abnormal. you're a real stand up fella.

    go fuck yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatalis View Post
    ThePaladin, I would continue the discussion but I'm done if people can't see my opinion as nothing more than offensive and decides to attack me via rep messages and (wrongly) call me homophobic.

    Seriously, if I think that Alzheimer is a mental illness and then 50 years later science-wise and social-wise people state that it is natural, does that mean I hate and insult people with Alzheimer? Am I Alzheimer-phobic?
    You can't compare an illness that makes you forget things with something that just changed what kind of people you like. It's not... right.

    By saying that something is a mental illness you're implying that it has to be cured.


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    to build on what gyrlander said, to call something a mental illness implies somebody is, definitively, wrong.

    he hit the nail on the head pretty good imo.


    thank god raptor and lys don't come on this site anymore, they'd tear you a new fucking ass for being such a little bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatalis View Post
    ThePaladin, I would continue the discussion but I'm done if people can't see my opinion as nothing more than offensive and decides to attack me via rep messages and (wrongly) call me homophobic.

    Seriously, if I think that Alzheimer is a mental illness and then 50 years later science-wise and social-wise people state that it is natural, does that mean I hate and insult people with Alzheimer? Am I Alzheimer-phobic?
    If new information comes about of something, you are expected to change your position or at the very least consider the new information.

    I don't think Alzheimers is a very good comparison due to its nature and clear demonstrable negative(hard to argue positive) effects, a better example might be MPD or DID.

    Yeah, insulting people even if you think the insult is good, isn't a way you really want to start a discussion off. In morality/philosophy debates, you never due that during the debate, you may do it after the debate, but not during.
    The point of debates is to convince either the other debator or the judges/audience of a position. Insulting people does nothing in this regard.

    Even if I thought my opponent was a Neo-Nazi. I wouldn't just call the guy a neo-nazi. I would ask the question well your position on X,Y, Z, etc. seems to be very similar to the National Socialist mindset in the 20th century, do you find this comparison apt and if so do you find that the behaviour of B was justified back then since its key justifications were X and Z.....
    [of course you'd word this a whole lot differently if this was a formal, moderated, and judged debate; but here's a quick example]

    This goes for both sides.
    Moral High Ground doesn't apply in a debate on morality, that's what you are trying to prove.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firebringer View Post
    Lynching paladin is like picking out the biggest guy in prison and trying to beat him up because he looks the toughest.He is the most townie person here and its really silly he [has a train on him], given the level of stupid on this wagon, should I be even surprised?


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    Re: 7 of my friends changed gender today

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    oh you're not homophobic, right?

    i fucking hate jews, hitler was totally right... but don't worry, i'm not an anti-semite. it's ok for me to be backwards cause my country is too

    answer the fucking question: are you, or are you not, from a shitty third world country?\

    fucking some shithole southern asian country. vietnam, taiwan, malaysia, some bullshit area like that. where prostitution and fucking little kids is pretty acceptable, but not being gay


    there's gay members of this site, yet here you sit calling them mentally abnormal. you're a real stand up fella.

    go fuck yourself

    This doesn't even remotely matter to the veracity of a position.

    Now you've just insulted multiple country's, their people, and made broad generalization, some of which I don't even think are stereotypes.

    In a debate there are usually people in the audience who are already aligned with a certain position. It doesn't change the veracity of claims.



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    Re: 7 of my friends changed gender today

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaladin View Post

    This doesn't even remotely matter to the veracity of a position.

    Now you've just insulted multiple country's, their people, and made broad generalization, some of which I don't even think are sterotypes.


    country's? nice grammar kid

    im not arguing or debating jack shit, i'm pointing out fatalis is a nigger.

    i didnt insult anything. those countries are shitholes. don't think so? move to one rofl. check out some sick photos online, and maybe try visiting one if you disagree with the views of somebody who has


    dirt ass nasty countries

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    Re: 7 of my friends changed gender today

    also, you seem to be a little kid. maybe 10th grade on summer break? don't care

    asia is very well known for its prostitution and child sex rings, maybe you should break out a book or two rofl

    asian territories (the ones i listed, anyway) are also well known for the trannie brothels

    checkmate

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    Re: 7 of my friends changed gender today

    Quote Originally Posted by Fatalis View Post
    If you even read what you type and you think I'm the one being offensive,

    'go fuck yourself'
    lol okay buddy

    go have fun in ur poverty shit hole country where people drive shitty ass fuckin 30 year old cars

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    Re: 7 of my friends changed gender today

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    lol okay buddy

    go have fun in ur poverty shit hole country where people drive shitty ass fuckin 30 year old cars
    Plz prove a perfect country in the world right now lel


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    Re: 7 of my friends changed gender today

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    didnt claim there's a perfect country, simply that i'd rather live in a 1st world country than a shitty 3rd world country
    1st world country problem: femminism......lot of crazy debate about transgender......conspiracy....etc
    3rd country problem: war, civil war, war against usa, war, war....war never changes.....


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    Re: 7 of my friends changed gender today

    Bruno deliberately winds people up for kicks. He probably doesn't actually think everyone from Third World Asia should be ignored when talking about sex ethics due to sex problems Asia has, because that's an insane position. Nah, I think he's (awkwardly) trying to stick up for homosexuals on the forum.

    Just take some stuff he says with a pinch of salt :3

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    Re: 7 of my friends changed gender today

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno View Post
    country's? nice grammar kid

    im not arguing or debating jack shit, i'm pointing out fatalis is a nigger.

    i didnt insult anything. those countries are shitholes. don't think so? move to one rofl. check out some sick photos online, and maybe try visiting one if you disagree with the views of somebody who has


    dirt ass nasty countries
    LOL 😂😂 WHAT A 🗿🗿🗿🗿 HAHHA GET A FUCKIN LIFE 🌝🌚🔥🔥🔥

 

 

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