S-FM 227 Lady Gaga

[Mesk514]

Sorry folks, I lied. My shiftat the red light starts at 10 so I won't be on til 12
Soznotsoz

[Suntax]

I mean, if ya'll make a case for sinon, I could vote for him. I said I was hesitant to vote him, only fury and whad are absolute deal breakers for me today.

I made my very simple case in #529
also im sure unknown was fine with voting him aswell

[Fury]

What if he does not flip fan eh?

Idk, I'm very capable of being wrong. Maybe I'm tunneling, but ah fuck idk.

[PowersThatBe]

I'm going to be working during EOD. So this is rally the only time you guys have me. Otherwise my vote stays planted.

[Whad]

I just got back and am not caught up but if Fury can play pro-town as the sk in April Fools then he can play pro-town in this game too. I'm not gonna change my vote unless something very convincing comes along.

[Whad]

Considering this is my 4th FM and the last 3 FM's I've all been scum in and I won all of them, then by process of elimination I am not scum! Right?!?! (please God save me). If I'm allowed to stroke my own dick for a moment, then if I were scum, I would not be a strong lynch candidate!

By PTB and Mesk's logic where they are ALWAYS town then you are ALWAYS scum. Aka this game you are lady gaga so we should lynch you already. K BYE

[Whad]

I'm not comfortable with a Sinon lynch or ccantman lynch. Tbh they feel very logical and townie to me. idk why Trine is pushing ccantman so hard. ccantman is doing well imo.

If not Fury (who I think is lady gaga), I would be down to vote The Lawyer (who I think is a fan).

[Whad]

Well I'm not going to be on near EOD but I'll try to come back in the morning. Due to activity levels during that time period, this probably means I'm keeping my vote on Fury.

I guess I'm ok with a no lynch today.

[Suntax]

So WHAD is sticking on Fury
gonna switch my vote back as i feel the only vote we get off today is on Fury.
because of this I implore any and all of you to vote

-vote Fury

[Suntax]

Also guys i just finished polishing my first setup since my return, its in the setup workshop, about to put it to the queue

[Fury]

if Fury can play pro-town as the sk in April Fools then he can play pro-town in this game too.

I just fucking knew this would happen after the flip. Well, my friends, Whad may be a degenerate, but you all are not!

[Fury]

Current votes on me: suntax (Lady Gaga), Sinon (obvious fucking fan), Whad (degenerate idiot)

Either vote Tictack/sun tan lotion/suntax, or do not lynch period.

[Fury]

I have a town read on Whad and will maintain that for the rest of the game. Sometimes townies are just dumb cunts though.

[Fury]

it's ok though. Considering scum already voted me, that would mean 2 town would have to vote me for me to be lynched. Lawyer has the potential to be a brainless idiot, but I think she is smart enough to not vote me. Ccantman is town this game, so fuck off of voting him. Trine is town, 22 is town, Unknown may be salty from the last FM but she is town. That means scum cannot hammer me even with 1 utterly piece of shit townie (2 if lawyer votes me)

[Suntax]

Why are you tunneling me as hard as i tunneled your mum's asshole.

[Fury]

Therefore, I will sit atop my L-1 perch and not die. From my perch, I will take a massive shit on Whad. Terminal velocity will be reached and he will be instantly killed.

[Fury]

Why are you tunneling me as hard as i tunneled your mum's asshole.

Shit I tunneled that too

[Suntax]

Why are you tunneling me as hard as i tunneled your mum's asshole.

You know what I feel ashamed by such a shit insult i just made

[Fury]

Suntax/Sinon vote me because they are scum. Whad can suck a dick.

[Whad]

@Sinon and by low hanging fruit I mean he's making himself an easy lynch target on purpose so we can analyze who pushed his lynch when he flips town. Thats the town motivation for why he would do what he's doing. Also, it prevents him from getting converted because there's too much of a risk of him being lynched and his interactions would fall back on gaga/he's a loose cannon and in a game like this, it's doubtful the scum would take the risk of having him accidentally wifom into a game throw.

Scum motivation is that he's simply a gaga shield and is fan at most. Gaga motivation is that he wants us to read him as scum acting acummy to appear as town acting scummy to make us think that he is too scummy to be scum, and that's whads point. Right now he's wifoming really hard and any possibility is possible at this point because we have no other information.

I hear what you are saying, but it is wildly suboptimal if Fury is town and pulling this. IF he is town, then he causes us to WASTE time speculating over him and tbh I'm not scum but I'm pushing his lynch. So we'll just end up analyzing the train and at least one person who pushed it (me) is town. If everyone acted like this then we would literally all just be covering for Gaga.

I think it's unlikely that he's a fan since Gaga would want to keep a really scummy person around until LYLO or MYLO. HOWEVER I think it's way more likely that Fury is Gaga actually. He can claim "oh Gaga kept me around until LYLO or MYLO since I'm easy mislynch bait". But if we don't lynch Fury now, we are literally saying that we will never lynch Fury on further days. He will become "too scummy to be scum" and I am 100% uncomfortable with letting Fury get to LYLO or MYLO.

People who get fanned early on will be people that Gaga doesn't think they can vote manipulate. People who get fanned early on will also be people that are too town-read to get mislynched.

Additionally, I think optimal Gaga strategy is to seem scummy but not scummy enough to get lynched. Players who fall into this category tbh are Fury, with a side shot of Suntax or TwentyTwo.

[Fury]

Btw Whad, you missed day 1. Reread day 1 very carefully before you embarrass yourself more.

[Fury]

So we'll just end up analyzing the train and at least one person who pushed it (me) is town.

I know you're a dumb slut, but you're a town dumb slut.

[Fury]

@Whad , I've town read you all day now take your grimey little vote off of me.

[Suntax]

I have this tiny little part of me going, just let the town lynch you so you flip hater and make a point painting fury as one massive suspicion sandwich.
the other part of me goes, nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhnhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Whad]

it's ok though. Considering scum already voted me, that would mean 2 town would have to vote me for me to be lynched. Lawyer has the potential to be a brainless idiot, but I think she is smart enough to not vote me. Ccantman is town this game, so fuck off of voting him. Trine is town, 22 is town, Unknown may be salty from the last FM but she is town. That means scum cannot hammer me even with 1 utterly piece of shit townie (2 if lawyer votes me)

In what universe is Sinon or Suntax an optimal fan choice. Gaga has incentive to fan the most unlynchable pro-town people since that is how Gaga kills people off (and tbh neither seemed the most pro-town unlynchable going into N1).

Alternate theory is that you are gaga and fanned Trine. Trine makes sense as a good N1 fan selection since Trine is widely townread. Also Trine is hard defending you.

[Fury]

I mean, I am town. This may be my first game rolling town, but I am town ^_^

[Fury]

Trine is not hard defending me. She attacked me start of day 2. (Wow you have a shit memory) and Sinon said if he were Gaga he'd fan someone lowkey day 2 (AKA THAT IS WHAT FUCKIN HAPPENED TO HIM LOL). His play is totally different day 1 -> day 2

[Fury]

Town just wants to lynch me since I'm bisexual. Fucking hypocrites! Suntax hates me cuz I'm bi and he's Russian so I'd be executed if I lived there. He's trying to follow oh glorious putin even on FM.

[Whad]

Btw Whad, you missed day 1. Reread day 1 very carefully before you embarrass yourself more.

I have fully read Day 1. My reads are all I have to contribute to the town so I'm going to advocate for whoever I think is Gaga. I am open to being convinced otherwise, but all signs point to you at this point.

@Whad , I've town read you all day now take your grimey little vote off of me.

If you were really a hater, you wouldn't care this much that you are getting lynched. This type of behavior only makes me more convinced that you are Gaga who is flailing and trying to avoid lynch at all costs. If you were a hater you would accept that your behavior put you here and you would provide as much help to town as possible before getting lynched. But you would also acknowledge that you brought this on yourself.

[Fury]

OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE

[Fury]

I have fully read Day 1. My reads are all I have to contribute to the town so I'm going to advocate for whoever I think is Gaga. I am open to being convinced otherwise, but all signs point to you at this point.



If you were really a hater, you wouldn't care this much that you are getting lynched. This type of behavior only makes me more convinced that you are Gaga who is flailing and trying to avoid lynch at all costs. If you were a hater you would accept that your behavior put you here and you would provide as much help to town as possible before getting lynched. But you would also acknowledge that you brought this on yourself.

Dawg, you don't win 3/3 scum games by flailing when pressured xD

[Suntax]

I hear what you are saying, but it is wildly suboptimal if Fury is town and pulling this. IF he is town, then he causes us to WASTE time speculating over him and tbh I'm not scum but I'm pushing his lynch .

This part of Whads post is really important
if fury is town
he is the worst town in the history of towns

Sure i seem slightly scummy, but im a shit player in player rehab trying to become active and form a play style
fury is just a shit cunt
a cunty cunt if he is indeed town
a cunty stupid cunt town
a whorish town

Basically he is shit at playing town
too much wifom

[Whad]

Trine is not hard defending me. She attacked me start of day 2. (Wow you have a shit memory) and Sinon said if he were Gaga he'd fan someone lowkey day 2 (AKA THAT IS WHAT FUCKIN HAPPENED TO HIM LOL). His play is totally different day 1 -> day 2

Trine is hard defending you now, when the lynch trains are starting to get rolling. That's what a Fan would do to prevent their Gaga from getting lynched.

[Fury]

Dude I'm playing town in A FUCKING CULT SAVE. OF COURSE I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A GOOD TOWN AS I COULD BE CULT ANY DAY

[Fury]

Dude I'm playing town in A FUCKING CULT SAVE. OF COURSE I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A GOOD TOWN AS I COULD BE CULT ANY DAY

[Fury]

Dude I'm playing town in A FUCKING CULT SAVE. OF COURSE I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A GOOD TOWN AS I COULD BE CULT ANY DAY

[Fury]

Are you mother fuckers so dense that you have missed every post where I've said that?

[Fury]

Maybe if I post it 3 times even you of all people can see it.

[Fury]

Let me know if it needs to be posted more. Blink twice if you've read this message.

[Suntax]

Town just wants to lynch me since I'm bisexual. Fucking hypocrites! Suntax hates me cuz I'm bi and he's Russian so I'd be executed if I lived there. He's trying to follow oh glorious putin even on FM.

Hey Im no filthy chechnyans
we don't mind you non straights
we just don't like you being non straight on public
Putin's words not mine
The gas attack was a false flag by the west
hail the glorious Motherland

[Whad]

Dude I'm playing town in A FUCKING CULT SAVE. OF COURSE I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A GOOD TOWN AS I COULD BE CULT ANY DAY

If you are currently town then it is your JOB to help the town. If you are cult then by all means be a bad town. Play to your win condition, not to get or avoid being culted. If you are a hater, then you win by lynching Gaga. So let's find Gaga instead of making it HARDER to find Gaga.

[PowersThatBe]

The first claim at knowing who gaga was that Fury made on D1 was his post #13

That seemed a bit too early for such a claim especially since by that point in time only Suntax, ccantman and 22 have posted besides Fury. However it isn't entirely impossible to legitimately scumread someone based on 1 or 2 posts.
You took him literal. Don't take him literal. Fury has a god complex. He's very good town acting scum. Considering he was SK and had everyone, and I mean everyone fooled into thinking he was vigi. So this isn't really in the fury scum handbook. -ptb
What I found interesting about that claim was if it was a real claim and if he was right about knowing who lady gaga was then it narrows it down to Suntax, ccantman and 22. Again, he wasn't being literal, and if he was I doubt it was any of them and i doubt it was/is him.

However I couldn't just rely on someone else's early scum read so I preferred to do my own work. I voted Suntax first for the slightly scummy intro post but didn't have an actual scum read on him so I removed the vote and since I found Fury's D1 content very interesting especially his claims on knowing who lady gaga was, I decided to interrogate him. As far as I can remember he didn't answer most of my questions and said that didn't want to give out his reads because they could be used against him if he was converted. A lot of his D1 content was revolving about the possibility of him being converted which makes sense if he expected to be converted because he knew who lady gaga was and had been threatening to reveal it. He also generated a lot of wifomy content on D1 and there was a substantial and even slightly exaggerated amount of shitposting which would allow him to render his D1 content useless in case he is converted on N1. If he has prior knowledge of who gaga is then he is A. Cheating. B. Cheating AND game throwing. C. Lady gaga. But that doesn't make sense to make that play if he's acting like he'll get converted. I'd definitely convert him over anyone else now after the FUCKING SK reveal. If I was gaga he'd be a fucking pro ass choice. Ib4 someone claims I'm hinting to gaga to convert him. Scum has day chat, this wouldn't make sense for me to do this if I was scum. Just saying. Look at you ccantman and 22.-PTB

Upon interrogating him I wasn't able to find out much because of the wifomy answers that I got, but ultimately I got to the conclusion that he was wifoming so much because he was town and expecting to be converted on N1. Throughout D1 he kept confirming his claim at knowing who lady gaga was which made me believe that his early claim could have been a legit scumread especially since I was getting nowhere with my own D1 investigation. I had a town read on Unknown, Trine and Suntax which I posted on D1. After I concluded that Fury was most likely town expecting to get converted on N1, I removed the vote on him and voted PoD for being completely afk the whole day. In the meanwhile The Burning Phoenix appearead just to say hi and placed a random vote on someone (at the time there were 3 votes on PoD and 0 on TPB I believe). By doing this TBP made himself the best D1 mislynch for town and #2 best lynch for town after lady gaga because he was a better lynch then all the active users since he appeared on D1 only once shortly and hasn't contributed at all, and he became a better lynch than PoD because no information at all could have been gained from poD's lynch if he flipped town because he was completely afk the whole D1. @ccantman read this line. This is me teaching you.

However I believed that TBP was probably town because he appeared when PoD had 3 votes on him do if TBP was the power scum of this game he would have used this in his favor and probably remained completely afk, in which case PoD would have almost certainly been lynched. I left my vote on PoD and waited for them to appear but they didn't. I think everyone assumed yesterday was going to be a ML

I decided to go back to Fury's D1 content because I didn't have my own scum read on anyone and decided to investigate the possibility that his earliest claim in post #13 was correct and that lady gaga was either Suntax, ccantman or 22. I immediately dismissed Suntax as scum because for me he was a town read. I considered ccantman but I had a town lean on him due to his D1 analysis. Then only 22 was left and first I dismissed him as lady gaga because his D1 posts looked like pikachu wrote them and this kind of makes you not want to vote him because no one wants to lynch pikachu. But still I had to get back to this possibility and analyze all of his D1 content upon which it became clear to me that even though he didn't say anything particularly scummy the overall impression of him was scummy because he looked just good enough to not be lynched D1 but he didn't do anything useful on D1. So at this point I concluded that he had to be the power scum of this game and then I noticed that my own scum read on him was overlapping with Fury's early claim at either Suntax, ccantman or 22 being lady gaga. So I decided to vote him but didn't expect that he would be lynched D1 even if I pushed him and if Fury was right with his claim on him and if I pushed him at the end of D2 I would most likely fail to lynch him since I didn't have enough time to elaborate my read on him, Fury wasn't pushing him either and neither was anyone else. So if I pushed him most likely he wouldn't have been lynched and then he would convert either me or Fury. Fury even said on D1 that he was down for a mislynch which indicates that he knew he would mislynch on D1 and therefore knew that TBP was town. He was the one who pushed the TBP lynch knowing that he would mislynch but this was the best mislynch for town and I take it he thought that if he couldn't lynch lady gaga on D1, then the best mislynch of all possible lynches gives a good chance to town later on.


And what's your opinion on 22 now? For someone you weren't so sure was scum, that was an awfully large claim to say you're intention is to continue to vote him every day because "he is the gaga." -ptb

So are you saying Fury is gaga or the fan? Because for him to push the lynch yesterday he would be game throwing or cheating if he was a hater yesterday, because gaga starts alone. Is that what you're saying, or is this a reason to consider fury as gaga as well, and try to cypher out between him and 22. Because you stated in the uncolored part between that 22 has to be the scum. However, you're pushing fury harder today than your gaga target. -PTB

When he said that TBP was his top scum read I asked him if he ever played with TBP, because I wondered how he could have a top scumread on someone who was almost completely afk to which he responded that he played with TBP only once and that in that game TBP was just as afk and useless as in this one, and then he even openly said that he wasn't meta reading TBP. This confirmed my assumption that he knew that power scum was someone other than TBP. once again, he would have no way of knowing this without cheating.

At one point in our D1 conversation (forgive me but you will have to find this conversation yourself for I can't do everything for you) Fury stated that he had reads on everyone. The only way he could have had reads on everyone even though 2 players were afk was if he had a very strong scum read on someone. So basically his D1 content makes perfect sense if he knew that 22 was lady gaga and thought that he wouldn't be able to lynch him D1 so he decided to post all those claims so that he can claim all of this on D2 if he isn't converted and combined with D1 collective town reads this would at least narrow down the list of potential power scum giving town a fairly good chance to lynch 22.


I'm sorry but this is such a stretch and doesn't make logical sense. He would have no way of knowing, and he'd have no way of counting on being converted n1. Unless of course, he's cheating. -PTB

This way he basically forced lady gaga aka pikachu.22 to convert him. I assumed that Fury would be converted and he himself assumed that he would be converted as you can see from his D1 content. Since I assumed that he would be converted by 22, I left my final D1 vote on 22 to claim it on D2 which I did claim at the start of D2 if anyone feels like bothering to read that claim but I have the impression that most of the players have missed it or don't feel like bothering to read it. So on D1 as I assumed that 22 would convert Fury I decided to claim Fury's D1 town content and claims at lady gaga for him on D2 which I did just now.

So we should lynch 22 today, is that what you're saying? Because it seems like your case is against fury, who in your scenario was a hater yesterday,
who magically knew who the lady gaga was, and this vast conspiracy was formed and 22 was able to pick up the clues to get fury and convert him.
Don't you see how bad that seems? The only way for fury to know this information is to have cheated. -PTB

Since Fury said on D1 and Suntax noticed this too, that Fury left content on D1 that he could claim if he was town on D2 but he also had to give himself a fair chance to win if he is converted because he wanted to win regardless of alignment and therefore had also created wifom on D1 and posted shit to give himself a fair chance on D2 if he is scum on D2. I am surprised that none of you have noticed that Fury is spreading infinite wifom as of D2 instead of claiming his D1 town content. He is able to create and did create such levels of wifom on D2 that no one even knows what was happening on D1 anymore.

Once again, his play was to make it so that if he was converted he wouldn't be traced back to anyone. However, if he's not converted he's making it hard for scum to want to convert him because they need to get other mslynches to maximize their conversions. Lynching a fan doesn't HURT the scum team, however, it does stem the bleed off to 1 for that particular day/night seq. -PTB

Now all of you who are still town need to ignore Fury's D2 content and go back to his D1 content not only because his D1 content reveals everything but also because his powers of wifom are such that if you keep reading his D2 posts you will be stuck on his D2 wifom not just until the end of this game but probably for the rest of your life. I assumed that this would happen if he gets converted so I posted on D2 and made the first post stating that Fury was a zombie so that your subconscious can at least get a chance to get out of his wifom that would undoubtedly happen on D2 if I was right with my theory.

Did you just scum slip by not adding yourself to the town?

Now all of you town players need to do your own damn work but then again you don't really need to since I basically solved the game for you or to be fair Fury solved the game for you and I presented the solution to you. Since I am hereby done with my official mission, the rest of the content that I will post on D2 and later if I post at all, will be trolling, shitposting, and possibly flirting and wifoming about my gender.

I added my points above.

Two thoughts. You either are gaga or the fan trying to get fury lynched today because you don't wanna convert him and he's too loose of a cannon for you. And in that instance 22 is your scumpartner because you're putting all of the focus on fury, and none of it on 22 who you suspect to be GaGA. Now your vote is on 22. But most of this was about fury, which makes the reader believe fury might be who you subconsciously want us to read as gaga.

Also, you're two points about "you town players" seems like you divorced yourself from the town. What you should have said was "the rest of you town players."


Second option:

You're still very new to our site and you don't know which way is up yet, and you're throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks. I am more inclined to believe this.

What was day 1 like on your site? Similar to this game, different, and how so?

The above question helps me to sort you a bit better, because right now it seems like you're trying to tie a loose fitting noose around fury's neck, however, different sites basically could be speaking different languages altogether in terms of meta and play and such. I would like to gauge how you are used to reading day one so I can help you sort fury better.

Although, like I said, I will be working the last few hours of EOD and tomorrow I will absolutely not be able to get to my phone. I'm in client meetings all day. I will however get two breaks and one of them should be in the middle of EOD, so I can pop in for 20 mins or less.

That's all I can promise.


Oh and your points about fury "knowing" they only work if he OOGC'd with gaga, otherwise you might want to say he assumes he knows, because like you said, he would have no way to know without actually knowing and if he knew, he needed to replace out. Unless of course he is gaga, but your premise is that he is a fan. So under that pretense, he would be cheating.

So are you accusing him of cheating?

[Whad]

Honestly Fury is a CANCER to this town. But is most likely Gaga who is trying to avoid being lynched. So I guess I'll forgive the terrible behavior being exhibited by that slot.

[Fury]

If you are currently town then it is your JOB to help the town. If you are cult then by all means be a bad town. Play to your win condition, not to get or avoid being culted. If you are a hater, then you win by lynching Gaga. So let's find Gaga instead of making it HARDER to find Gaga.

I already said this. I said I will help find Gaga by following opinions I agree with. Hence, why I went on suntax (BECAUSE OTHERS SAID TO AND I AGREED)

[Suntax]

I think we should get the 2 best lawyers to lynch fury
@TwentyTwo
@The Lawyer

[Fury]

Oh, and I'm not cheating.

[Fury]

I think we should get the 2 best lawyers to lynch fury
@TwentyTwo
@The Lawyer

I think I need to fly to Russia for you to suck my dick.

[Fury]

I'm legit lol'ing so hard atm. This is a hilarious game.

[Fury]

I'm going to legit tell everyone to suck my dick until they don't lynch me LOL

[PowersThatBe]

I'm not comfortable with a Sinon lynch or ccantman lynch. Tbh they feel very logical and townie to me. idk why Trine is pushing ccantman so hard. ccantman is doing well imo.

If not Fury (who I think is lady gaga), I would be down to vote The Lawyer (who I think is a fan).

I'm actually not pushing them. I just don't see ccantman as logical as everyone else does. Maybe I'm biased and perhaps I'm tunneling him. of course you'd think he was doing well if he wasn't tunneling you though lol.

I mean I pointed out his voting habits today, he still contends I'm probably scum, but he has no other reads.

Now I'll give him the benefit of the doubt with his computer.

And again, I haven't really pushed his lynch too hard, I just think he could be scum and I see scum motivation for his play. However, I doubt he's getting lynched, and if he's town I'm not getting accused of MLing him by "starting a train."

-unvote