S-FM Turnabout Mafia

[Voss]

because

Spoiler : this :

[
(38%) Gyrlander > Numbertwo,
(27%) Gyrlander > Mike,
(27%) Mike > Magoroth,
(27%) Gyrlander > Distorted,
(27%) Gyrlander > LightYagami,
(16%) Kenny > Mike,
(16%) Gyrlander > Kenny,
(16%) MarshmallowMarshall > Kenny,
(16%) Kenny > LightYagami,
(16%) Distorted > Magoroth,
(16%) LightYagami > Magoroth,
(16%) Gyrlander > Magoroth,
(16%) Gyrlander > Voss,
(16%) MarshmallowMarshall > Magoroth,
(12%) Distorted > Mike,
(12%) Mike > Numbertwo,
(12%) Kenny > Numbertwo,
(12%) Kenny > Magoroth,
(12%) Distorted > Numbertwo,
(12%) Distorted > Voss,
(12%) Numbertwo > LightYagami,
(12%) Numbertwo > Magoroth,
(12%) Voss > Magoroth,
(7%) Numbertwo > Voss,
(5%) MarshmallowMarshall > Mike,
(5%) Kenny > Distorted,
(5%) Distorted > MarshmallowMarshall,
(5%) MarshmallowMarshall > Numbertwo,
(5%) MarshmallowMarshall > LightYagami,
(5%) MarshmallowMarshall > Gyrlander,
(5%) MarshmallowMarshall > Voss,
(0%) LightYagami > Mike,
(0%) Voss > Mike,
(0%) Voss > Kenny,
(0%) LightYagami > Distorted,
(0%) Voss > LightYagami]

There's only like one vote or so separating Gyrlander and Marshmallow. 2 or 3 votes between MM and Kenny.

@Distorted

[Distorted]

because

Spoiler : this :

[
(38%) Gyrlander > Numbertwo,
(27%) Gyrlander > Mike,
(27%) Mike > Magoroth,
(27%) Gyrlander > Distorted,
(27%) Gyrlander > LightYagami,
(16%) Kenny > Mike,
(16%) Gyrlander > Kenny,
(16%) MarshmallowMarshall > Kenny,
(16%) Kenny > LightYagami,
(16%) Distorted > Magoroth,
(16%) LightYagami > Magoroth,
(16%) Gyrlander > Magoroth,
(16%) Gyrlander > Voss,
(16%) MarshmallowMarshall > Magoroth,
(12%) Distorted > Mike,
(12%) Mike > Numbertwo,
(12%) Kenny > Numbertwo,
(12%) Kenny > Magoroth,
(12%) Distorted > Numbertwo,
(12%) Distorted > Voss,
(12%) Numbertwo > LightYagami,
(12%) Numbertwo > Magoroth,
(12%) Voss > Magoroth,
(7%) Numbertwo > Voss,
(5%) MarshmallowMarshall > Mike,
(5%) Kenny > Distorted,
(5%) Distorted > MarshmallowMarshall,
(5%) MarshmallowMarshall > Numbertwo,
(5%) MarshmallowMarshall > LightYagami,
(5%) MarshmallowMarshall > Gyrlander,
(5%) MarshmallowMarshall > Voss,
(0%) LightYagami > Mike,
(0%) Voss > Mike,
(0%) Voss > Kenny,
(0%) LightYagami > Distorted,
(0%) Voss > LightYagami]

There's only like one vote or so separating Gyrlander and Marshmallow. 2 or 3 votes between MM and Kenny.

@Distorted

i have no idea how to read that......

[Voss]

Spoiler : i shortened it :

[
(16%) Gyrlander > Kenny,
(16%) MarshmallowMarshall > Kenny,
(5%) MarshmallowMarshall > Gyrlander,

58% of voters think Gyr over Kenny
58% of voters think Marsh over Kenny
52.5% of voters think Marsh over Gyr.

If you flip people's minds on Kenny and Marsh or Gyr and Marsh, you can bring Marsh down. And Gyr/Marsh would be easier since the margin's lower.

@Distorted

[Gyrlander]

Hum.. I'm starting to not feel so ok with Dist being scum. And I don't like it cause now I need to choose between people.

[Mike]

Spoiler : i shortened it :

[
(16%) Gyrlander > Kenny,
(16%) MarshmallowMarshall > Kenny,
(5%) MarshmallowMarshall > Gyrlander,

58% of voters think Gyr over Kenny
58% of voters think Marsh over Kenny
52.5% of voters think Marsh over Gyr.

If you flip people's minds on Kenny and Marsh or Gyr and Marsh, you can bring Marsh down. And Gyr/Marsh would be easier since the margin's lower.

@Distorted

Ok this makes me reconsider the Voss Gry thing. Voss and Gry can't be team no way Voss would bring this up if Voss was pro Gry.

I am sorry Voss I think I was wrong about you.

[Mike]

Ok this makes me reconsider the Voss Gry thing. Voss and Gry can't be team no way Voss would bring this up if Voss was pro Gry.

I am sorry Voss I think I was wrong about you.

unless i read this post wrong is Voss going for Gry to be voted up or pushing MM vote?

[Distorted]

unless i read this post wrong is Voss going for Gry to be voted up or pushing MM vote?

neither. he is just stating how the voting system works

[Voss]

-vote skip

[Mike]

Tomorrow is sunday again, I will not be on much so if you are doing @Mike I am not ignoring it I just can't get on much on Sunday due to morning and evening Church. This is just a heads up like I gave last week.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Lol. That's surprising. He was voted up but everyone voted him inno because of my shitty prosecution, even though I was mostly afk D1 as I do most games. I didn't have a good case against Damus besides gut and the Judge order as I previously stated. I think there must be something wrong with that.

I was actually wondering why people were ROLEPLAYING so much that just the performance of 1 person can determine your opinion ^^

Also: I literally roleplayed my entire defense of Damus. And I believe I roleplayed quite well :P roleplay =/= useless, proof is that I nearly convinced everyone to inno the scum!

[Marshmallow Marshall]

unless i read this post wrong is Voss going for Gry to be voted up or pushing MM vote?

He's co-host, and it's "his" voting system (even if his name is not Condorcet :P) so he explains us how it works, I think that's more it.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Hum.. I'm starting to not feel so ok with Dist being scum. And I don't like it cause now I need to choose between people.

ARE YOU TOWN?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Not changing anything, re-stating it.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Not changing anything, re-stating it.

Spoiler : cvote :

Gyrlander,Voss,Kenny,Mike,Numbertwo,LightYagami,Di storted,Magoroth,MarshmallowMarshall,

Copypaste didn't work o.O

[Voss]

@Mike please skip?

[Voss]

This is not me trying to execute a quick vote out. Unless anyone thinks their order is going to change for one reason or another, you shouldn't worry about changing your vote because you should have already locked in your preferences.

Does that make sense? It's the benefit/curse of condorcet in that there's no such thing as a 'quick vote out'.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

@Mike please skip?

I'd prefer not to be lynched, thank you. Either Gyrlander or Kenny.

[Distorted]

This is not me trying to execute a quick vote out. Unless anyone thinks their order is going to change for one reason or another, you shouldn't worry about changing your vote because you should have already locked in your preferences.

Does that make sense? It's the benefit/curse of condorcet in that there's no such thing as a 'quick vote out'.

why the hell would we skip with MM being the top voted person? move him down or me and MM both die during trial.

[Voss]

why the hell would we skip with MM being the top voted person? move him down or me and MM both die during trial.

I suggest you talk to people that have Marshmallow Marshall in their top 2 before you talk to me about changing my vote list. Slaol said Gyr or Kenny, and I've made my choice. You should talk to Mag or #2

[Voss]

I'd prefer not to be lynched, thank you. Either Gyrlander or Kenny.

Reorder Kenny above Gyr and I'll move Light above you.

[Distorted]

I suggest you talk to people that have Marshmallow Marshall in their top 2 before you talk to me about changing my vote list. Slaol said Gyr or Kenny, and I've made my choice. You should talk to Mag or #2

whats ur current votes?

[Voss]

whats ur current votes?

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[Distorted]

Reorder Kenny above Gyr and I'll move Light above you.

so you are strategically moving the votes to get gyrlander down?

[Voss]

so you are strategically moving the votes to get gyrlander down?

If you don't want MM, and I don't want Gyr, we can work together to put up Slaol's second scum read. So yeah, I'm bargaining.

[Distorted]

If you don't want MM, and I don't want Gyr, we can work together to put up Slaol's second scum read. So yeah, I'm bargaining.

thats my top vote now. whoever the top is though im switching my votes near EoD to avoid the arena of death.

[Voss]

Safest thing to do then would be to have Slaol give an ordered vote list, and for us to try and adjust our votes so that we can get the next 2 scummiest people into defendant/prosecutor.

That way if bomber hits, they might kill off another scum for us. I could give my recommendation on how that can be achieved, but you'd have to trust that recommendation coming from me as not the host.

I'll get to work on the algorithm.

[Voss]

As a side note, this algorithm is necessary only because we have a random element in this game, which is not my favorite in mafia games.

[Slaol]

Safest thing to do then would be to have Slaol give an ordered vote list, and for us to try and adjust our votes so that we can get the next 2 scummiest people into defendant/prosecutor.

That way if bomber hits, they might kill off another scum for us. I could give my recommendation on how that can be achieved, but you'd have to trust that recommendation coming from me as not the host.

I'll get to work on the algorithm.

Ordered vote list is as follows
- gyrlander

[Distorted]

Safest thing to do then would be to have Slaol give an ordered vote list, and for us to try and adjust our votes so that we can get the next 2 scummiest people into defendant/prosecutor.

That way if bomber hits, they might kill off another scum for us. I could give my recommendation on how that can be achieved, but you'd have to trust that recommendation coming from me as not the host.

I'll get to work on the algorithm.

thats what i was telling him on D1. a little too late right now in this day since less than 10 hours left, but tomorrow im down for it.

[Voss]

Ordered vote list is as follows
- gyrlander

Okay, but that doesn't help protect the people you want to survive, aka not be the prosecutor or defense. Should I restate what I'm trying to achieve here?

Spoiler : cvote :

Gyrlander,Kenny,Mike,MarshmallowMarshall,Magoroth, LightYagami,Distorted,Numbertwo,Voss,

[Voss]

thats what i was telling him on D1. a little too late right now in this day since less than 10 hours left, but tomorrow im down for it.

there's no reason everyone else won't check in to adjust their votes accordingly.

[Slaol]

Okay, but that doesn't help protect the people you want to survive, aka not be the prosecutor or defense. Should I restate what I'm trying to achieve here?

Spoiler : cvote :

Gyrlander,Kenny,Mike,MarshmallowMarshall,Magoroth, LightYagami,Distorted,Numbertwo,Voss,

No i read it. Id like kenny as his defense if we can make that happen

[Voss]

No i read it. Id like kenny as his defense if we can make that happen

Do you not have a third? Maybe #2 for the third? I doubt bomber would kill off #2

[Slaol]

Do you not have a third? Maybe #2 for the third? I doubt bomber would kill off #2

Ill think about it

[Ganelon]

On further reflection, I can agree with what Distorted is saying about MM and Damus - that it's far too obvious. Fair point.

Spoiler : cvote :

Gyrlander,Kenny

[Distorted]

No i read it. Id like kenny as his defense if we can make that happen

then we are going to need kenny to have gyrlander bottom vote. he has to ge ton within 10 hours for that

[Voss]

Spoiler : cvote :

Gyrlander,Kenny

[Ganelon]

I agree with this. it's up to Slaol to pick the scummiest out of the two.
Gyrlander is not someone I want in the endgame with me.

FUCK. This was me. I apologize.
I'm going to delete this, so here's what was said:

I agree with this. it's up to Slaol to pick the scummiest out of the two.
Gyrlander is not someone I want in the endgame with me.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

If you don't want MM, and I don't want Gyr, we can work together to put up Slaol's second scum read. So yeah, I'm bargaining.

Bargaining here is slightly strange... I don't trust you, so I feel like I'd be bargaining with the devil here :P

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I'm beginning to doubt about Gyrlander's scumminess, but his play has been so scummy and not towny AND anti-town that I don't want him to the end of the game. There's just meta town-ish read on him appearing now, but he could fake that too... So my vote will stay here today, and if the Judge and I have the same suspect I guess it's a good sign...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Spoiler : cvote :

Gyrlander,Kenny

[Voss]

The best chances for us to get the outcome of Kenny and Number2 as trial attorneys would be to have everyone but Kenny put Gyrlander first. DIstorted's intuition did the trick here.

[Gyrlander]

Nvm, you are all scum. AIVION must be fucking with me.

[Gyrlander]

If you guys trial me I'll just encourage bomber to bomb my fucking trial with the person of my choice.

[Gyrlander]

Which most probably will be my prosecutor.

Damn, basically everyone is voting me Number 1 but Kenny who has gone afk and I can't be sure about him..

[Gyrlander]

Despite the low chances of me being scum after that Damus vote you have managed to change it into it being a strategy of mine to win the game when I was basically afk D1. Congrats. Did I do something D1 or not? Cause if we follow what you say damn I worked very hard.

[Gyrlander]

Ordered vote list is as follows
- gyrlander

^^ And then you'll try to cover up your fail tunnel lynching N2. With the Corrupted Attorney power probably another towny will be killed and then boom scum has majority!!

And this is not taking Bomber into account lmao.

[Gyrlander]

And you know the worst thing? That as they are following the Judge they'll just blame Slaol and get a free pass. Dang.

[Numbertwo]

interesting fact. If the bomber kills 2 townies on this trial then the mafia+neutrals will have majority.

[Numbertwo]

also @Voss , could you try to not become the defender or prosecutor? would suck for me if you died from a bomb.