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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    See you cannot keep arguing both sides of something like this. Earlier you said I wanted to elect Survivor Washington for president because I am scum. Now you're saying I knew he was town power and wanted him elected to get rid of his power. You cannot double dip in trying to scumpaint people by saying they did two opposite things and expect to keep getting away with it.
    Nope you were telling me I lynched my own town power because he was town power rofl that is ridiculous because like I said he was no longer Town Power but a citizen - I found two SCUMMY reasons as to why you would want to get him elected/lynched, and you cannot deny that both of those paths are pro-scum =P

  2. ISO #3652

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Nope, invalid argument. If you were trying to get one elected over the other you would become CONFIRMED scum and placed into their team
    .... multiple people picked one over the other and have not become CONFIRMED scum. I do appreciate that you're ignoring everything else in my post

  3. ISO #3653

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    .... multiple people picked one over the other and have not become CONFIRMED scum. I do appreciate that you're ignoring everything else in my post
    Nope, this is a logical fallacy. Just because MOST people have done so doesn't mean scum wouldn't. Obviously if there is a scum in there NO SCUM WILL SUPPORT THEIR LYNCH, OR MAYBE THEY WOULD 'SUPPORT' THE LYNCH BUT NOT SHOW ANY INTEREST IN ACTUALLY VOTING ANYONE

  4. ISO #3654

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Hoping I would get a quick Lynch rofl why did I quote you then? Clearly I wanted to have this argument with you. Also I'll give you that, you're right about the 'Truman' thing, partially =P still the fact that you were the first to point out his death REEKS of scum, I didn't point out his death and I didn't jump to conclusions, I wanted to know if there was a possibility he might've died for his reads and not for his role. I honestly would never kill someone for their role rofl, roles are shit.
    How is it clear that you wanted to have this argument with me.... you LITERALLY said everyone vote Nixon when you get online.

    It's not partially - you LITERALLY said "People that Truman was townreading" have something to gain from his death and he scum read me just like he scum read you.

    You asked why I thought Truman died and I responded why. You are the one who then claimed that you somehow slipped that you were escort during D1 and that the mafia knew your target was killed Truman to frame you - a bunch of BS that is far more scummy than saying "he probably died because they thought he was TPR".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    GAIN TOWNPOINTS, ROFL, NO I'M TRYING TO PREVENT A SPEEDHAMMER FROM OCCURRING BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE FUCKING RETARDED. DO. NOT. QUOTE. MORE. THAN. ONE. PERSON. IN YOUR POSTS OR REPLY BECAUSE THAT COULD BE SEEN AS CALLING YOUR SCUM TEAM TO FUCKING HAMMER

    Literally the only people I will not see as scummy if they are pinged/quoted are Clinton, Reagan and Kennedy and Bush.
    You already tagged everyone in the game multiple times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Make it obvious I am scum - why are you not pushing me? Literally the only one voting me is the confirmed scum

    Nixon I'd stop posting in your place. You're burying your grave deeper and deeper if you're town, and I don't see how you could be.
    Okay
    -vote Abraham Lincoln


    Of course Teddy is voting you. That makes you look towny. Why would teddy help town by confirming people as non-scum?

    I was more focused on responding to your posts than voting you.

  8. ISO #3658

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    1) You are fucking hypocritical - you NAMEDROPPED at the start of the fucking lobby rofl, why not admit to this shit, and your pushing me for this kind of stuff is just borderline retarded. Also I've yet to see you do anything other than call people retards and call me/Roosevelt MAFIA as opposed to scum/neutral
    2) This is WRONG. Yes people have been scum hunting. What am I doing right now? What has Bush been doing? What has Truman been doing? What the fuck did Obama/Kennedy/Reagan do rofl you just shut people down for scum hunting you. By the way this is a logical fallacy known as 'Cherrypicking town mistakes'
    3)Yep I recall you giving Bush 'dumb town points' or something like that. That is a fucking insult and a way of discrediting/pocketing people
    4) Yep Jefferson/Trump are literally the common man's scapegoats at this post. Trump could be 50/50, maybe he's scum, maybe he's town, idfk. Like Bush said I hope to be dead before I have to deal with Trump.
    1) This did not happen. Tell me what name I gave myself
    2) People have only started scumhunting since I revealed you as consort. Prior to that D3 was 100% spent on Reagan v Clinton and D2 was 100% spent on Washington v Roosevelt. The only person I can think of that scumhunted D2 was Kennedy when he pushed me.
    3) You said all I have done all game is call people retards and dumb. Please quote some examples instead of saying "I recall ___".
    4) If they are the common man's scapegoats, so am I. I have been scumread by most people all game long. In addition - if they are both scum with you then how is town supposed to find any scum if we give a free pass to "scapegoats".

  9. ISO #3659

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    I lynched him because Roosevelt is a master manipulator and convinced me to do something I didn't want to do =P
    Your not voting indicates that you have no need to vote someone, indicating you or your allies have a powerful action, and since you're journalist the only ability that can be is FACTIONAL NIGHT KILL
    So, you lynched a president you had confidently believed was town power long before EOD because Roosevelt made you do it? Roosevelt who had been acting scummy as fuck all day? Seriously?

    Me not voting indicates I was offline...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Yep I did not push it - I tried to convince Clinton to vote for him but nobody else was. I thought of that idea and just admit that if I hadn't you wouldn't have elected him rofl, coming up with idea of electing the neutral is so scummy no scum would try that (and no this doesn't NECESSARILY clear me), so obviously what you had to do was WAIT for someone to yap about that and along I came. You're proving my point, not denying it.
    Please quote where you said let's elect Washington after he claimed Survivor and before I said to elect him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Also, I am going to repeat this. DO NOT REPLY OR QUOTE THE NEUTRAL OR ANYONE ELSE THAT I HAVEN'T QUOTED YET

    DOING THIS IS GROUNDS FOR INSTANT LYNCH, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. DON'T GAMETHROW.


    Reminding you all of this. DO NOT FUCKING QUOTE ANYONE EXCEPT FOR REAGAN, CLINTON BUSH OR KENNEDY OR MYSELF.
    why not JFK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Nope you were telling me I lynched my own town power because he was town power rofl that is ridiculous because like I said he was no longer Town Power but a citizen - I found two SCUMMY reasons as to why you would want to get him elected/lynched, and you cannot deny that both of those paths are pro-scum =P
    I never thought he was town power during D1. I pushed that a survivor president was good pretty hard and I don't think it makes sense as scum to put myself out there like that just to get a TOWN power elected president. Why would I even push him as president then instead of just trying to get the real neutral or one of my teammates/self elected. I mean it's plausible what you're saying but it's such an unlikely conspiracy type idea that I feel like I would at least have needed time to think it over (ie the week it's been IRL since then) before coming up with the idea.

    Yea scum could want survivor elected president just because they think they can turn him later, but I don't think that's as viable as letting a townie be elected, killing him, and then campaigning for the presidency later on. Especially since the survivor has vests so if he sticks to town you cannot get rid of him. It's a bit too risky I think on D1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Nope, this is a logical fallacy. Just because MOST people have done so doesn't mean scum wouldn't. Obviously if there is a scum in there NO SCUM WILL SUPPORT THEIR LYNCH, OR MAYBE THEY WOULD 'SUPPORT' THE LYNCH BUT NOT SHOW ANY INTEREST IN ACTUALLY VOTING ANYONE
    It's like you don't even read the posts I am quoting of yours. You said if scum tried to push 1 out of Clinton or Reagan to be lynched that scum would out himself as confirmed scum.

    I said, no they wouldn't because multiple people already sided with 1 or the other and didn't get marked as confirmed scum.

    Now you say: "just because most people have done so doesn't mean scum wouldn't". I didn't disagree with that at all... but my point stands that nobody has been marked as confirmed scum for siding with Reagan or Clinton

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    TLDR:
    My defense for anybody reading through -

    1) Before I made my reads post and said Lincoln was probably consort, everyone was tunneled on lynching Clinton or Reagan. If I am scum, unless BOTH Clinton and Reagan are my teammates I have no reason to break that tunnel the way I did. After all, scum need 1 mislynch to win and that's it. So even if I just had 1 teammate between Clinton and Reagan, I could just lynch the other one very easily with all 3 votes between me and my two teammates.

    2) Lincoln tried to push this turbolynch through when most people were offline. He literally tagged everyone in the game and said "VOTE NIXON AS SOON AS YOU COME ONLINE". He clearly was hoping to push my lynch through before I could defend myself.

    3) I revealed myself to Washington as Journalist, and even confirmed my identity to him during D2 by making a post about the French and Indian War (I would said I would confirm myself this way to him in the interview). This could be construed as scum trying to buddy with the neutral; however, as scum I do not believe it would make sense to reveal my identity to him so early on and hope he does not screw me over. My goal as journalist was to build a town voting block by revealing myself 1 by 1 to my top town/town-aligned reads each day, which was unfortunately ruined when Washington name-dropped me.

    In my opinion, Lincoln is consort. His plan was to not attack last night and roleblock Reagan to get an easy mislynch today, which effectively wins the game for scum. The contingency plan if Clinton was assassin and shot somebody was to then say if Reagan is town, Clinton must be scum, effectively dividing the town and forcing them to mislynch and not even consider anybody else for the lynch. I ruined this plan so now Lincoln is trying to get rid of me.

  17. ISO #3667

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    It's like you don't even read the posts I am quoting of yours. You said if scum tried to push 1 out of Clinton or Reagan to be lynched that scum would out himself as confirmed scum.

    I said, no they wouldn't because multiple people already sided with 1 or the other and didn't get marked as confirmed scum.

    Now you say: "just because most people have done so doesn't mean scum wouldn't". I didn't disagree with that at all... but my point stands that nobody has been marked as confirmed scum for siding with Reagan or Clinton
    Yep they would out themselves as confirmed scum, hence why you're not doing that =P

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    I would also like to point out that where I used quotes and facts to support my arguments, Lincoln just kept saying "You did X and Y" without any proof, and I showed that multiple of those claims were untrue (like saying I scum-read Truman and Roosevelt D1, that I wanted to lynch Roosevelt D2, that I sheeped my support for Washington as president off of him, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    It's like you don't even read the posts I am quoting of yours. You said if scum tried to push 1 out of Clinton or Reagan to be lynched that scum would out himself as confirmed scum.

    I said, no they wouldn't because multiple people already sided with 1 or the other and didn't get marked as confirmed scum.

    Now you say: "just because most people have done so doesn't mean scum wouldn't". I didn't disagree with that at all... but my point stands that nobody has been marked as confirmed scum for siding with Reagan or Clinton
    Nope if you would that you would instantly be put into a scum team by Bush, who, by the way, thinks you are scummy as fuck and it would also allow you get a mislynch going =P framing someone as your teammate. As it stands there's probably no scum there. Also your NOT voting today and casting a scenario that AGREES with you not voting = FUCKING scum. Town HAS to vote. And no don't bring up Roosevelt's vote because Roosevelt also wants to vote =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    I would also like to point out that where I used quotes and facts to support my arguments, Lincoln just kept saying "You did X and Y" without any proof, and I showed that multiple of those claims were untrue (like saying I scum-read Truman and Roosevelt D1, that I wanted to lynch Roosevelt D2, that I sheeped my support for Washington as president off of him, etc.)
    Yep you did scum read Truman/Roosevelt D1, you said 'seems like fake bussing' and then you cancelled your scum read on him for one post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Yep they would out themselves as confirmed scum, hence why you're not doing that =P
    Seriously you're not making sense anymore. Let's do this one more time:

    Nixon: If I were scum and I had one teammate between Reagan and Clinton I would be fine with the tunnel being on them because I would just make sure the one who isn't my teammate gets lynched

    Lincoln: That would out you as confirmed scum so you couldn't do that

    Nixon: Multiple people already sided with either Clinton or Reagan earlier and none of them were outed as confirmed scum. Also, scum only need 1 mislynch to win anyway so it doesn't matter if they out themselves.

    Lincoln: That's a logical fallacy! Just because people did it already doesn't mean there isn't scum in there!


    Nixon: Wut Here let me re-summarize the whole thing for you...……………….


    Lincoln: Yep they would out themselves as confirmed scum!


    Nixon: WUT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    Seriously you're not making sense anymore. Let's do this one more time:

    Nixon: If I were scum and I had one teammate between Reagan and Clinton I would be fine with the tunnel being on them because I would just make sure the one who isn't my teammate gets lynched

    Lincoln: That would out you as confirmed scum so you couldn't do that

    Nixon: Multiple people already sided with either Clinton or Reagan earlier and none of them were outed as confirmed scum. Also, scum only need 1 mislynch to win anyway so it doesn't matter if they out themselves.

    Lincoln: That's a logical fallacy! Just because people did it already doesn't mean there isn't scum in there!


    Nixon: Wut Here let me re-summarize the whole thing for you...……………….


    Lincoln: Yep they would out themselves as confirmed scum!


    Nixon: WUT

    L.O.L. don't reframe my posts fucking scum, I STATED that JUST because people did it doesn't mean that someone who is doing that as well is fucking town, but either your head is too small to comprehend such words or you're a fucking liar. Probably the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Nope if you would that you would instantly be put into a scum team by Bush, who, by the way, thinks you are scummy as fuck and it would also allow you get a mislynch going =P framing someone as your teammate. As it stands there's probably no scum there. Also your NOT voting today and casting a scenario that AGREES with you not voting = FUCKING scum. Town HAS to vote. And no don't bring up Roosevelt's vote because Roosevelt also wants to vote =P
    So, you agree with my scenario that they are both town, but you also find it scummy that I did not vote either of them? "Town HAS to vote". I am sorry for not wanting to let a scum hammer right at the start of the day like you were hoping for. My scenario is also what I posted right when I came on for the first time during D3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    Seriously you're not making sense anymore. Let's do this one more time:

    Nixon: If I were scum and I had one teammate between Reagan and Clinton I would be fine with the tunnel being on them because I would just make sure the one who isn't my teammate gets lynched

    Lincoln: That would out you as confirmed scum so you couldn't do that

    Nixon: Multiple people already sided with either Clinton or Reagan earlier and none of them were outed as confirmed scum. Also, scum only need 1 mislynch to win anyway so it doesn't matter if they out themselves.

    Lincoln: That's a logical fallacy! Just because people did it already doesn't mean there isn't scum in there!


    Nixon: Wut Here let me re-summarize the whole thing for you...……………….


    Lincoln: Yep they would out themselves as confirmed scum!


    Nixon: WUT
    Also this is yet another discredit on your part. Get better at defending yourself (if you are town) or just fucking drop dead and shut up =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    For every post the neutral makes, I will say this:

    Also, I am going to repeat this. DO NOT REPLY OR QUOTE THE NEUTRAL OR ANYONE ELSE THAT I HAVEN'T QUOTED YET

    DOING THIS IS GROUNDS FOR INSTANT LYNCH, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. DON'T GAMETHROW.
    hence u are responding to me, just not quoting it =P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    L.O.L. don't reframe my posts fucking scum, I STATED that JUST because people did it doesn't mean that someone who is doing that as well is fucking town, but either your head is too small to comprehend such words or you're a fucking liar. Probably the latter.
    You somehow still don't seem to get it. You claim that anybody who sided with Reagan or Clinton would get outed as confirmed scum. I said people already sided with one or the other. You're saying then that those people can be town but maybe if somebody else did it they would be scum.


    Do you not see how you've just agreed with me, that not anybody who sided with one or the other would out themselves as confirmed scum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    You somehow still don't seem to get it. You claim that anybody who sided with Reagan or Clinton would get outed as confirmed scum. I said people already sided with one or the other. You're saying then that those people can be town but maybe if somebody else did it they would be scum.


    Do you not see how you've just agreed with me, that not anybody who sided with one or the other would out themselves as confirmed scum?

    Nope, don't twist my words =P if YOU would do that, Bush would immediately become suspicious of one of their reads and quite possibly hammer; besides I saw your post as an attempt to lash back at me the CONFIRMED escort/consort from your perspective. Trying to Lynch such a useful role is a big scum tell from my side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Also this is yet another discredit on your part. Get better at defending yourself (if you are town) or just fucking drop dead and shut up =P
    I mean it IS a discredit because you've ignored almost everything else I have said to you and just repeated this one line that doesn't make any sense 3 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Also if you're thinking Roosevet will only hammer town you are seriously wrong. Roosevelt will hammer at any opportunity, him wanting to hammer is NOT INDICATIVE OF HIS SCUMREADS
    If Roosevelt really felt that somebody was scum he wouldn't hammer them.... Why on earth would he? A scum might hammer his teammate to earn town credit but Roosevelt is already outed as scum-aligned neutral so he has no need to gain town credit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    If Roosevelt really felt that somebody was scum he wouldn't hammer them.... Why on earth would he? A scum might hammer his teammate to earn town credit but Roosevelt is already outed as scum-aligned neutral so he has no need to gain town credit
    You know full well why that is, and no that's not the reason. If I were to state the reason that would be OPEN WOLFING, WHICH IS GROUNDS FOR INSTANT LYNCH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Nope, don't twist my words =P if YOU would do that, Bush would immediately become suspicious of one of their reads and quite possibly hammer; besides I saw your post as an attempt to lash back at me the CONFIRMED escort/consort from your perspective. Trying to Lynch such a useful role is a big scum tell from my side.
    1)scum only need 1 mislynch. Scum don't care if Bush scumreads them tomorrow.. they've already won at that point.

    2) Scum need 1 mislynch. They don't need to lynch the escort or any other power role. If a town is lynched today it's 4 v4 already and probably 3 v 4 tomorrow with teddy as president. Your role is thus irrelevant in why a scum would want to push you.

    3) You previously claimed that my reads post where I accused you of being consort gave me town cred and you even agree now that both Reagan and Clinton are town. It's not twisting your words, it's what you said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    1)scum only need 1 mislynch. Scum don't care if Bush scumreads them tomorrow.. they've already won at that point.

    2) Scum need 1 mislynch. They don't need to lynch the escort or any other power role. If a town is lynched today it's 4 v4 already and probably 3 v 4 tomorrow with teddy as president. Your role is thus irrelevant in why a scum would want to push you.

    3) You previously claimed that my reads post where I accused you of being consort gave me town cred and you even agree now that both Reagan and Clinton are town. It's not twisting your words, it's what you said.

    1) Nope. Bullshit they do. Of course they fucking care if they get scum read rofl get the actual fuck out of here.
    2) lol there is still the slight chance that Roosevelt won't have time to vote for someone =P still I have to admit this is somewhat true. But still pushing to Lynch the Escort is FUCKING scummy as town.
    3) Yep they did give you towncred. It's a free townpoints move that is equivalent to pocketing BOTH CLINTON AND FUCKING REAGAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    Clinton if you are town don't fucking vote me. If you are you're handing them the win. Did you even listen to my argument?
    Yeah, you're worrying me m8 I think you could be scum now at this point lol I haven't seen you this locked on to someone all game. All game you've been flip flopping back and forth and now you're dead set on something. You're either scum or you just can't admit when you're wrong.
    jazzy jizz man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Clinton View Post
    Yeah, you're worrying me m8 I think you could be scum now at this point lol I haven't seen you this locked on to someone all game. All game you've been flip flopping back and forth and now you're dead set on something. You're either scum or you just can't admit when you're wrong.
    What the fuck? Tell me where I am wrong or I will start regretting that I trusted you in the first place. Tell me that you don't see Nixon as fucking scum and explain WHY, because if you are town you are literally voting the same person the confirmed scum is voting me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham Lincoln View Post
    1) Nope. Bullshit they do. Of course they fucking care if they get scum read rofl get the actual fuck out of here.
    2) lol there is still the slight chance that Roosevelt won't have time to vote for someone =P still I have to admit this is somewhat true. But still pushing to Lynch the Escort is FUCKING scummy as town.
    3) Yep they did give you towncred. It's a free townpoints move that is equivalent to pocketing BOTH CLINTON AND FUCKING REAGAN
    1 + 2) Again, lynch a town today = 4 v 4. Scum get a kill tonight = 3 v 4. Teddy would be president on D4. Town then DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH VOTES to lynch anybody. So, no, the scum do not have any reason to care if you scumread them AFTER a misylynch today.

    3) If I am scum I don't need free townpoints because I can just lynch Clinton or Reagan and win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Clinton View Post
    Yeah, you're worrying me m8 I think you could be scum now at this point lol I haven't seen you this locked on to someone all game. All game you've been flip flopping back and forth and now you're dead set on something. You're either scum or you just can't admit when you're wrong.
    You can't possibly change your opinion about me for being too logical, get a real reason to scum read me or admit that you're wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    1 + 2) Again, lynch a town today = 4 v 4. Scum get a kill tonight = 3 v 4. Teddy would be president on D4. Town then DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH VOTES to lynch anybody. So, no, the scum do not have any reason to care if you scumread them AFTER a misylynch today.

    3) If I am scum I don't need free townpoints because I can just lynch Clinton or Reagan and win.
    Yes you care if you scum read because you don't want to be lynched, duh. Also you're lying again.

 

 

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