S-FM 231: Black Flag Nightless 3.0

[Stealthbomber16]

You're not saying that you aren't scum though o.o

The fuck good would that do?

[Spruance]

Tbh if I was In charge I would lynch stealthbomber and if he isn't mafia then hybrid. Mesk is still really sketch but he was mafia last time so idk.

[Spruance]

The fuck good would that do?

He always spams he is town so it is odd.

[Mesk514]

I HAVE A FUCKING VAGINA, HOLY JESUS FUCK

[Mesk514]

He always spams he is town so it is odd.

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[Stealthbomber16]

Tbh if I was In charge I would lynch stealthbomber and if he isn't mafia then hybrid. Mesk is still really sketch but he was mafia last time so idk.

Good thing you aren't in fucking charge then. You've done nothing memorable this game other than confuse the living shit out of everyone by not having an avatar and having people think you're marshmarsh.

He always spams he is town so it is odd.

she*

[Iced_Monopoly]

The only times you can actually get mesk to appear in this thread and post are by unvoting someone with their name, or assuming her gender to be male.

Is it possible to replace this slot? I feel like an iso would leave maybe 1 post of content, if that.

[Stealthbomber16]

The only times you can actually get mesk to appear in this thread and post are by unvoting someone with their name, or assuming her gender to be male.

Is it possible to replace this slot? I feel like an iso would leave maybe 1 post of content, if that.

Tbh mesk did do a fair bit this game so far.

[Spruance]

-vote Stealthbomber16

Pretty darn sure about this one.

[Stealthbomber16]

-vote Stealthbomber16

Pretty darn sure about this one.

and why, pray tell, am I scum?

[Spruance]

and why, pray tell, am I scum?

Because I can see through your games.

[Stealthbomber16]

Because I can see through your games.

[Spruance]

See I knew it. Guys vote him before it's too late.

[Mesk514]

The only times you can actually get mesk to appear in this thread and post are by unvoting someone with their name, or assuming her gender to be male.

Is it possible to replace this slot? I feel like an iso would leave maybe 1 post of content, if that.

hey, I've been putting in effort into this game

[Iced_Monopoly]

hey, I've been putting in effort into this game

Maybe here and there, but there is an unhealthy amount of shitposting that far exceeds that of any actual posting. I dont even know if thats indicative of your scum or town play, but either way, its shit and frustrating. Pl0x.

[Spruance]

Are we really going to let the night end in a SuperJack lynch? This has got scum written all over it.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Are we really going to let the night end in a SuperJack lynch? This has got scum written all over it.

Thank fuck someone else agrees. Move vote to RLVG and pray someone else rocks up in the next hour and a half.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Thank fuck someone else agrees. Move vote to RLVG and pray someone else rocks up in the next hour and a half.

I'll vote RLVG tomorrow.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

-vote Stealthbomber16

Pretty darn sure about this one.

Uhh... reason please? Out of "darn sure about this one"...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Let's see.
Yes, the hammer will fall in the
Next hour of gaming
Cause SJ is scum and because
Hour of the Hammer has come.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Lim
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[Marshmallow Marshall]

Good thing you aren't in fucking charge then. You've done nothing memorable this game other than confuse the living shit out of everyone by not having an avatar and having people think you're marshmarsh.

How do you make an avatar, please? :P

[deathworlds]

How do you make an avatar, please? :P

You control Water, Air, Fire, and Earth.

20 minutes to end day.

[deathworlds]

Day Two

RLVG (3 [L-3]):
Iced_Monopoly, Hybrid, SuperJack
SuperJack (5 [L-1]):
Marshmallow Marshall, RLVG, yzb25, Mesk514, Omegasaur
Stealthbomber16 (1 [L-5]):
Spruance
Hybrid (1 [L-5]):
Stealthbomber16

Living Players:
1. Marshmallow Marshall
2. Hybrid
3. Monopoly of the Iced variety
4. RLVG
5. Mesk514
6. Stealthbomber16
7. Omegasaur GoatseOntheCupboard
8. Spruance
9. yzb25

Role List:
Goon
Goon
Goon
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Dead Players:
Superjack, lynched day 1

Day 2 ends at 10 PM PDT, August 24, 2017


5 votes to hammer.

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DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS

[Mesk514]

okay, onto omegasaur.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

SORRY SJ

RLVG, could you please come here? Just two seconds...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

okay, onto omegasaur.

Let Omegasaur defend himself before lynching. We cannot afford another Town lynch. If it happens, we will be a MYLO situation, which is really bad to get at D3...

[Marshmallow Marshall]

COME HERE RLVG!!! DEFEND YOURSELF!!!
come on lol

[Iced_Monopoly]

COME HERE RLVG!!! DEFEND YOURSELF!!!
come on lol

Dont you dare be throwing that noose around. You had every opportunity to avert yesterdays lynch if you moved your vote to rlvg.

I am literally happy to vote everyone today, except spruance and maybe mesk/omega.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Dont you dare be throwing that noose around. You had every opportunity to avert yesterdays lynch if you moved your vote to rlvg.

I am literally happy to vote everyone today, except spruance and maybe mesk/omega.

I won't throw the noose at your neck, since SJ wasn't guilty... However, I am leaving my vote on RLVG and going off to sleep. But remember: DEATH IS RESTLESS.

[RLVG]

Just saying, I'm keeping my thought at the moment I read - I may not know what actually happens later in the game until I read that point.
Reading discresions - I don't know the flips until I get there, etc.

LOL

This is coming from the same person who said its fine if the hammer isn't met because the person with the most votes is lynched.
To then place a vote on someone he is not reading as scum because a lynch needs to happen.


I am seriously down for either Stealth or RLVG at this point because of the way they are both handling my wagon.

Because players are voting someone else, so my parked vote means it's more likely you'll be lynched - while still not hammering.
Is this to put me at a bad light on purpose? Because I mentioned my intend to lynch and that there was no other intended lynch targets.

Tbh

-vote RLVG

He shouldn't have voted... IT ISNT SJ WAKE UP GUYS GEEZ...

Lol, sheep-defending SuperJack much?

RLVG's last second vote for the sole reason "intent to lynch" in a game where lynch is unstoppable. Ignoring my points of "Read my posts and not my flip" and "Lynching scum>Lynching for scum tells"

-vote RLVG

Are you guys just... What even.
How can you lynch someone with intend to lynch if the one with most votes is anyone but the intended target to lynch?
I was going to sleep as well, so what better thing can I do than to park my vote?

Pulling straws I see and also OMGUS.

What are you even doing right now

Uhh, vote SJ and then head to sleep? Isn't that straight forward?

That was sarcasm. He literally said that he wouldn't vote sj anytime soon because of plurality. And then said he'd unvote if hybrid did. Is anyone in this game actually capable of maintaining a consistent stand point?

You too don't see the logic in parking a vote while heading away? Gee.
Also, THIS IS A LIE!!! I didn't say I'd unvote, I was voting Stealthbomber at the time - I was threatening Hybrid to do a proper unvote or else I'd vote SuperJack and do a legit hammer.
Hybrid is someone I haven't known yet, so I wanted to give him pressure in doing an actual unvote lol (it was an empty threat, didn't want to end the day earlier anyway).
If my threat was legit, why not just NOT threaten and just go for a hammer?

How am I stopping people from lynching? Whoever has the most votes gets lynched, so lynching is impossible to stop.

I'm being defended by players, Like iced, because I'm being vote by players, like you, that voted me without explaining why.

RLVG said "SJ isnt scum, but we should lynch him. But if you unvote him we wont lynch him"
RLVG then goes and votes me afterwards because "A lynch must happen"
Although RLVG said "Lynches cant be stopped, its whoever gets the most votes so I dont need to place my vote"




Basically, RLVG is saying im Town, saying I shouldnt be lynched, but then voting to lynch me.
That is what scum do.

Holy shit is this a massive big lie. Since when did I say SuperJack is 'Town'? I may not have outright claimed them scum, but I've never claimed them as legit Town.
This is a wall of lies.

@yzb25 quit playing the im not talking to you card. You only hurt town by doing that. RLVG and MM both have made comments about believing/knowing SJ to be town, but still voting him. How can you possibly be okay still being on that train, and why are you paying 0 attention to those comments by those players? Are you even trying this game? Fucking laziest scum on the planet.

Iced too? This is jumping on with SuperJack.

The only other train with traction, and credibility is rlvg.

-vote RLVG

Im not even going to preach this. If youre actually read up on the game, you know why this is a better lynch than SJ

At this point the probability of you being scum is almost 100% if SJ flips scum, or about 50% if they flip town. I'm convinced they'll flip scum by the way players are just flipping opinions everywhere and trying to straw lies on me.

If SJ is lynched today and flips scum, I'd say RLVG and Iced for the scums. But it's not done yet, so we cannot think about it further...

Uh, why would I be scum for being the one to borderline attempt to force a lynch on SuperJack while others seem to disagree and attack me for it?

SORRY SJ

RLVG, could you please come here? Just two seconds...

I'm mighty disappointed, SJ flipped Citizen.
But now we have information that SJ is Town, which will help with reads in the game because opinions are all over the place!
(Which I had previously said)

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Spoiler : RLVG's RLVG ISO (Biggest Wall of Text EVER :

RLVG is claiming to be a SUUUUPER important guy in the signup section...

People saying they are "important" are always mafia.

-vote RLVG

Voted for such an obvious lie.
I claimed nothing at all and no one claimed I was important lol.

Why would either a Town or a Mafia put themselves in the limelight like this? WIFOM, so I have no actual idea, but I want an answer for the early scummy act.

-vote Marshmallow Marshall

What is RLVG doing, and where?

I was asleep when the game started.

Here I vote Marshmallow for the early bullshit.

You heretic, spelling Marshmallow as Marshmellow.

So what's the reason a Town would get themselves on the limelight like Marsh did? What's the reason for Mafia?
Is it hoping for early voting conflict so that the partners can look less scummy? Or is it trying to lure them to vote a low hanging fruit?
The only dispute for low hanging fruit is that it's too obvious and requires an answer of sort.

Here's just me putting on a stance towards Marshmallow about wtf is going on.

If we want to go super conspiracy mode - MM is scum and quoted something rlvg wrote in night chat, so 2/3 scum found and game over.

Except this is Nightless and there's no nightchat, but day chat, and he went with his stuff in 28min. I admire your attempt though.

Mechanics
Nightless
The Mafia share a day chat.
Game starts day 1, with lynch.

When is the Daychat enabled for the mafia? Can the Mafia chat in it before the actual game starts?

Here I counter Iced Monopoly's claim of the potential theory I chat with "my mafia team mates" before the game even started, which ain't possible.
Good try, Iced.

I... I think he just mixed the "BFN 3 signups" up with RLVG's "I'm back" thread, where RLVG states his return is an "important message" XD.

Lolwut, that's in the General Chat. I still didn't claim anything important there, literally the only statement is that I'm coming back and repeating it.

RLVG is claiming to be a SUUUUPER important guy in the signup section...

As you can see YZB, Marshmallow explicitly says Signup Section and that I'm claiming to be 'suepr important'.

More Marshmallow bullshit, I counter YZB's idea with that it could be a misunderstanding from a different thread.

I can already tell the early day discussion is going to be very fruitful =D

Just wait, Firebringer will randomly appear with a conspiracy that will knock your socks off (and probably get lynched).

This is potentially my first fluff post, but I'm kinda serious about Firebringer - if Firebringer even appeared... SAD

Nope, I'm town.

And I'm sexy.

You're just going to jump in the game with the usual "I'm Town" meta but with no input on the bullshit / strawing that happened early?
You seem uninterested.

I subtly call out Mesk on fluff, and with a serious pointing out on that Mesk seems uninitiated / uninterested.

Fun fact: RLVG himself didn't even vote me back. I think he got what I wanted to do there.

He actually voted me back. Oops. Maybe he didn't understand

You w0t m8? This is some mighty psychology right here!

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It seems to me that mafia would rather not post much today and wait till they communicate with each other to start interacting.

What kind of assumption is that? This is a logical fallacy, this just means that the town are automatically those who chat a lot.
Unless you're one and want to blend in.

Wait, I thought scum had a one-use ability to force a lynch? Has that since been removed?

Isn't this game part of the vanilla game list? I'm pretty sure this is a non-vanilla ability lol.

I call out on Marshmallow for being weird, Spruance for making a logical fallacy, and I inform YZB it's a vanilla game.

I ain't unvoting SB unless he gives me a satisfying response, so I guess your votes are gonna be on me for at least 12-24h, and perhaps the entire day lol.

So you're parking your vote on someone who haven't talked much. Effective way of making them chat though, if they are actually around. Otherwise, useless usage of your vote.

I kinda want to threaten people to talk so that way we can get info. Later...

So your logic is that you want to do something about it and then you just leave and not do anything? Dat procrastination

Yeh im down with lynching Mesk.

I like Sprunce. I can't see him being a scum player and pretending to post what a scum player would do,.

I Dont like RLVG. Asking useless questions to look thoughful and useful.
I am wary of you. Cause Siance

Meta bullshit 101 RLVG : I always ask questions, may it be retarded, helpful, useless or weird.
Science says, SuperJack is trying to get met o look bad by the very most subtle means. Hon hon hon, subtle rivalry.

RLVG's question wasn't so bad in the original context, but I see what you mean. And he's been tapping into the forum several times since and hasn't actually talked when ACTUAL CONVERSATION can be had, rather than dissecting Iced's outlandish conspiracy theories.

See, this may be a problem with different timezones. I've been asleep for a while and a lot of stuff were happening while I were asleep.

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Spoiler : Stealthbomber's big wall of quotes :

Heyyyy I'm here gu-








I can help with this.



Hybrid once again opens the game up with a hypocritical post. Telling someone not to vote so early on but voting in his first post.
/sigh



This post strikes me as odd. It's a particularly defensive way of stopping an alleged gambit that hasn't really come into fruition yet.



Thing is this is a nightless game and mafia can already communicate through their daychat.



I had a couple more sentences on hybrid but uh this post says what I wanted to better so I'm just going to say look at this. Look at it. You done looking at it up and down? K good.








School starting up today inhibited my ability to post, as I mentioned was happening on the signup thread. Not apprecaiting this tunnel before I even make a post.



the fuck?



the fuck?



tbh sj only rolls scum



yea you reserved your first post for me




Just because we're not a scum team for once doesn't give you the right to vote me.

All that shit, you vote Hybrid instead of pressuring Marshmallow or YZB for more shit? Just so I understand the priority, you're thinking of them as an associate of sorts?
Wouldn't it be better to pressure the guy in question so that their team mate would have to be more aggressive in subtle defendings?
I dunno on stealth's train of thought here.

Of course, immediately after the vote, a quick argument quickly turns to an unvote instead of pressuring the weird guys. What even.

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Agreed, but to stop a force, you have to counter force it. So they won't stop random voting until they realize that we are not suppose to hurry that much instead we have to think about it and make the rightest choice. Or else after 2 citizens died they will be like "Oh no... We are almost losing this game we cannot make even a single mistake" then *puff* Town loses the game and mafia gets a sweet victory.

We don't have to strictly follow a 'strategy', with something obvious-sounding like a countermeasure. The point is discussions to have gambits, WIFOM and et cetera, and eventually one will slip up or something.

I don't think we should lynch hybrid or marsh today because they are active and if we kill one the thread will turn dead. Do I think they are town? They are just as likely to be scum as the afks are lol.

This line of thought is toxic. Hey man, just because someone is active in the chat doesn't necessarily mean that they can't be lynched.
The game won't turn up dead either and there's regulations on activity. If anything, it could increase activity and not everyone has properly checked in yet because of day 1 mentality.

Effective immediately, @Omegasaur has replaced Firebringer!

As you can see, regulations on activity.


I'm gonna vote Stealth, his train of thought doesn't seem like a town mind, doesn't seem to have a focused priority when it seems like there should be one, he makes a vote - receives a post - and immediately unvotes with full agreement. While I shouldn't argue about that post in itself, the speed of it and how quick to back down is just kinda odd considering the lead up to it.

-vote Stealthbomber16

My first wall of text, woohoo.

1. I'm calling out on YZB for parking his vote on someone who ain't around thus the vote ain't being effective.
2. I'm calling out on Hybrid for shit logic. "I want to threaten people, so I'm gonna leave and return later to actually do it", such procrastinatino.
3. Here's my first call out on Superjack. "I don't like RLVG, asking useless questions" - really? I say SJ tried to make me look bad.
4. I call out on YZB that I wasn't around because of timezone differences.
5A. Replying to a wall of text, so I've edited the quote with two lines to make it easier to see.
5B. Basically I'm calling out on Stealth for their shitty priority, broken train of thoughts, how 'aggressive' they were before insta-submissive? Dafuq.
6. I'm informing Hybrid that there's things known as WIFOM, gambits and et cetera, and we shouldn't simply rely on a single strategy.
7. I'm calling out on Spruance for not wanting to lynch active players because it kills the game. What if scum are active?
8. It's a continuation from 7, when I'm showing Spruance that activity is regulated in this game.

And conclusion, I'm voting Stealthbomber for the bullshit, back in point 5.

Since this guy is around...

@ysb25

Hey, what's your thought about the exchange between Hybrid and Stealthbomber in the context that the two could be possible scum together?

I'm poking YZB to give an opinion between Hybrid and Stealth. Cue mispelling their name lol.

I don't like how RLVG is. He comes on, but does not post here. He does not post on the other threads. So I am asking: what is he doing when he comes online? Does he post in a private chat? Like a Mafia chat...?

Please tell me your thoughts about this.

Everyone has a real life, lol.

If you mean "comes on" as in me being online, I have the thread open in a tab so it might show up even if I'm afk.

SuperJack is too funny... he's like, okay i'm down to vote mesk or like rlvg... && of course he doesn't like YZB.... then like 2 posts later he votes stealthbomber and then uses "stealth always makes boring wall posts that look big, but really contain very little. its easier to find someone by engaging in conversation with them. Its easy to get away with scum by making wall posts." as his reasoning when stealth posted a long post after SJ voted lololol

Iced is just all over the place, has a RLVG theory and a Hybrid theory, but someone is okay with looking at stealth as well....

Hybrid is just being hybrid, so I don't know why people think his activity so far is indicative of anything.

You're talking about Superjack's opinions and votes, then mention Iced is all over the place, and that Hybrid is just Hybrid.
Then what's your opinion about Marshmallow really? Someone completely disconnected from all of us so there's nothing worth mentioning?

-vote SuperJack

If I had to put my money on a third person, I bet firebringer was a no show cause he rolled scum

Why is Firebringer likely scum for not showing up?
That's completely non-role, non-faction, because there's not a single post.

-vote SuperJack

Well you might say that i was the only one who was against lynching but I had a feeling that SJ was goon, if anyone else agrees with me and mesk we will lynch superjack, i mean he really feels like goon...

You're buddying up with mesk, ain't you? Hmm.

Another wall of text! Smaller though.

1. I'm saying that I have a real life, that's why I wasn't around at the time.
2. I'm asking Mesk about the seemingly avoiding the Marshmallow discussion, or seemingly not linking them to anyone.
3. Calling out on Mesk for shit meta. NAI.
4. Also calling out on Hybrid for buddying up to Mesk.

I have a feeling that SJ is more sheeping than actually agreeing the points to.

L-1 btw!

Hybrid (1 [L-5]):
Iced_Monopoly SuperJack (5 [L-1]):
Marshmallow Marshall, yzb25, Hybrid, Mesk514, Omegasaur Stealthbomber16 (2 [L-4]):
RLVG, SuperJack Firebringer (1 [L-5]):
Spruance

I'm mentioning that SJ's votes has potentially more sheep than serious votes.
Also warning everyone it's L-1 and showing the votes.

We are waiting SuperJack for an explanation but he s nowhere to be seen...

Sure, "waiting", but with L-1 when anyone of RLVG, Iced, Spruance and Stealth, can just hammer and no discussion is met.
I won't hammer since we have a plurality vote anyway, and I'm going to be sooo hateful to either Spruance or Stealth if they go with hammer before SJ talks, and I'm going to be probably 600% mad if SuperJack doesn't talk anyway.

Here I am being passive-aggressive about the L-1 and I'm mentioning about the plurality vote.
An important thing right here - I explicitly say I won't hammer. This doesn't mean I won't vote.

By the way, since 6 players are required to cause a 'hammer'...
Me RLVG, Iced Monopoly, and Spruance, have the ability of hammer.

If we assume that SuperJack is actually scum, Scum themselves should shy off from the hammer, which by shitty logic and stuff means that it's 1/3 chance of the remaining players being scum with a probability of 2/3.

Based on shitty looking of things, might give Iced Monopoly there an extra look because everyone seems to collectively agree they're scummy.

RLVG is afraid to vote, but gives an opinion on everything. Could be a strategy, but suspicious.

Objection : I'm not afraid to vote, I just want SJ to talk. Considering how the game is, SJ will get lynched anyway regardless of hammer.
If I were to vote now, I'd hammer - thus no discussion.

Mechanics
Lynches will be handled by the automated lynch system using [vote] tags, with a 51% hammer. If no lynch occurs then the player with the most votes will be lynched.

Here's my shitty logic as to why either me (RLVG), Iced Monopoly or Spruance is scum, based on the idea that SuperJack is actually scum.
Also a hidden callout from me that my eyes are on Iced for being scummy.

Next is that I'm calling out on Marshmallow about how I am seemingly cowarded when I'm not, and presenting the plurality vote mechanic.

I'm trying to figure out what I'm defending other than feels. Dearie.

Here's the vote posts.

Guys, stop blaming me for being new also I see Hybrid as the less scummy guy here. He is obviously trying to find the scums, without anyone to support him or to sheep him.

SuperJack is being SuperSuspicious...

-vote SuperJack

yeah, sorry for all this spam. I'll just vote SJ with you guys. He's not #1 priority like Iced, but he'll do XD

-vote Superjack

-vote SuperJack

Well you might say that i was the only one who was against lynching but I had a feeling that SJ was goon, if anyone else agrees with me and mesk we will lynch superjack, i mean he really feels like goon...

-vote SuperJack

If I had to put my money on a third person, I bet firebringer was a no show cause he rolled scum

-vote SuperJack

I agree that SJ is probably scum

I have a feeling half of these is sheeping, lol.

Here I'm showing SJ the vote posts in question and also pointing out that there's some sheeping here.

Inb4 Omega is Firebringer's shadow clone.

In serious tone though, I feel most of the recent discussion is just not where it should be. Discussions are all over the place lol.

Unless Hybrid unvotes for real, I'm considering to hammer SJ so that we can have proper association reads, as well as WIFOM based on what the flip is.
It's Nightless, so the only thing that's really happening is throwing SJ out (sorry!) while we gain a small amount of useful informaiton.

@Hybrid

Joking that Omega is Firebringer 2.0.

Then I'm pointing out that discussion isn't as it should be, because it's all over the fucking place. You're scum, you're scum and yooouuu'reee scum!
This guy is scum because X reason, meta or feel.
This guy is scum because why not and I'd rather die.
Let's switch opinion right away.

Honestly? Fuck that, I'd rather get some information so we can continue with proper discussion. However - I'm not hammering as I mentioned before.
This gives a subtle pressure to the players.

Right after that, I'm threatening Hybrid that I will hammer if Hybrid doesn't unvote for real after the 100 failed attempts.
It gave me so much OCD. My threat was empty though because if I was serious about hammering, I'd do it right away.

Question, what sort of read associations can you get from my flip, from both results?
Save yourself 6 hours of waiting and post them now!
(Recommend doing town flip first)
Also, note amount of useless votes on me.

From how I see it, Iced seems to desperately try to get attention away from you.
That's already a potential association, and a common suspect.

It gives more insight about those fucks known as Sheep.

You started the game out with bare minimum interaction, but others made a heck of a deal out of you and now you're in the limelight which has given tons of interactions which we may interpret from.

Also, dafuq Hybrid. 1 more unvote and I'll just vote lol.

[unvote][/unvote]

Here I'm calling out Iced for trying to seem desperate geting votes away from SuperJack, which genuinely gives me the associate impression and a better solid scumread to SJ, who I previously just thought as 'scummy' for trying to go all ad hominem on my ass. I saw two mafia teams at this point.

I don't outright say I think of SJ as scum though. My previous stance is that SJ is far more informative because of the influence circle of players.

After that, I point out the 'sheep' could also help with reading the game.

Then I point out to SuperJack that their early interaction of the game is shit, but the other players made a heck out of a deal about SJ so their influence is more important than SuperJack's in the early game, which then I point out that SuperJack was forced to interact with the response players have made.

Lastly, I thraten Hybrid that if they get the unvote wrong 1 more time, I'm hammering. (Again another empty threat)
I was nice enough to provide the unvote code.

1 more unvote

Another unvote that fails, that is.

Here I'm just correcting myself.

If you want to hammer him i am ready for it just tell me to do it. But I am telling you, he is town.

You w0t m8?
If you think someone is town, defend them, not agree to lynch them on the will of another lol.

I'm calling out on Hybrid for an extremely poor mindset. "They're town, but I can lynch them if you want to", holy shit is that bad.

heh, that was the answer was looking for
if you were to say "let's lynch him" I'd lead town to get your head

Uh, what kind of response / gambit is this?
You're expecting me to be a complete newb? Lol.

Naturally Hybrid responds that it's some kind of shit WIFOM, so I'm just saying that this is too newbie bait for me to work.

Going to sleep, parking my vote on SuperJack because of my intend to lynch.

-vote SuperJack

Here I am going to sleep, and because SuperJack is L-2, I'm voting them so I'm not hammering but my intend to lynch vote remains.

So with all that shit said...

MY CALL OUT ON LIES ARE SOLID! THERE'S NO EVIDENCE ON THE BASE OF LIES!

Iced is Scum. Trying to undermine me and make me look bad, post lies to get me in a negative light, intentionally sheep with someone to try and make themselves look town, defend a town to look town, trying to get me lynched for potential shit reasons, and it doesn't feel like a town Iced at all.

Don't take this out of context, the big wall of text is there for a reason.

I have never said SJ is Town, and other stuff. If I had to guess scum team, it's Iced_Monopoly, Stealthbomber16 and either Mesk orHybrid.

-vote Iced_Monopoly

[RLVG]

My vote didn't count for some reason.

-vote [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/18974-Iced_Monopoly"][B]Iced_Monopoly[/B][/URL]

[RLVG]

My vote didn't count for some reason.

-vote [URL="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/18974-Iced_Monopoly"][B]Iced_Monopoly[/B][/URL]

Okay, I'm embarassed.
This is the biggest fuckup ever LOL

-vote Iced_Monopoly

[RLVG]

I have never said SJ is Town, and other stuff. If I had to guess scum team, it's Iced_Monopoly, Stealthbomber16 and either Mesk orHybrid.

Last post for now, but I'm just changing my opinion. Looking at things, maybe Iced informed Hybrid to sheep and defend with Superjack to look like town themselves, maybe?
I'm more inclined towards lynching Hybrid over either Mesk or Stealthbomber, but Iced is what I must say is a priority for now.

[Iced_Monopoly]

I'll make this brief, because I need to get to sleep. Your actions yesterday were scum as fuck. 3 people independently read your actions as scum motivated. So don't come in here pretending everything was fine and dandy with what you were doing.

I've been around here long enough to know buddying is a bad move. SJs train was a disgusting mess. You were the only other train at the time with any votes and substance, so don't pretend like you were innocent till i rocked up.

Also self isoing is the most pointless shit in existence. The whole act of self portrayal and presenting your own arguements to your own behavior is scum behavior.

When im back, im hitting up yzb hybrid and mm. You're in that bucket too with your shit behavior.

[Hybrid]

If SJ is lynched today and flips scum, I'd say RLVG and Iced for the scums. But it's not done yet, so we cannot think about it further...

I was the one who defended him as well so it would be better me and iced but he isn't scum

MarshMarsh and spruance can yall upload avatars so its easier to tell you guys apart?

ikr please x)

Tbh if I was In charge I would lynch stealthbomber and if he isn't mafia then hybrid. Mesk is still really sketch but he was mafia last time so idk.

dafaq are you talking about?

-vote Stealthbomber16

Pretty darn sure about this one.

LMAO YOU SURE BUDDY?

hey, I've been putting in effort into this game

I know you do, and i know that you arent scum neither SJ. Spruance just talking shit atm.As well as Iced...

Let's see.
Yes, the hammer will fall in the
Next hour of gaming
Cause SJ is scum and because
Hour of the Hammer has come.

Instead of making poems try to be more usefull ;)

Just saying, I'm keeping my thought at the moment I read - I may not know what actually happens later in the game until I read that point.
Reading discresions - I don't know the flips until I get there, etc.



Because players are voting someone else, so my parked vote means it's more likely you'll be lynched - while still not hammering.
Is this to put me at a bad light on purpose? Because I mentioned my intend to lynch and that there was no other intended lynch targets.



Lol, sheep-defending SuperJack much?



Are you guys just... What even.
How can you lynch someone with intend to lynch if the one with most votes is anyone but the intended target to lynch?
I was going to sleep as well, so what better thing can I do than to park my vote?

Pulling straws I see and also OMGUS.



Uhh, vote SJ and then head to sleep? Isn't that straight forward?



You too don't see the logic in parking a vote while heading away? Gee.
Also, THIS IS A LIE!!! I didn't say I'd unvote, I was voting Stealthbomber at the time - I was threatening Hybrid to do a proper unvote or else I'd vote SuperJack and do a legit hammer.
Hybrid is someone I haven't known yet, so I wanted to give him pressure in doing an actual unvote lol (it was an empty threat, didn't want to end the day earlier anyway).
If my threat was legit, why not just NOT threaten and just go for a hammer?



Holy shit is this a massive big lie. Since when did I say SuperJack is 'Town'? I may not have outright claimed them scum, but I've never claimed them as legit Town.
This is a wall of lies.




Iced too? This is jumping on with SuperJack.



At this point the probability of you being scum is almost 100% if SJ flips scum, or about 50% if they flip town. I'm convinced they'll flip scum by the way players are just flipping opinions everywhere and trying to straw lies on me.



Uh, why would I be scum for being the one to borderline attempt to force a lynch on SuperJack while others seem to disagree and attack me for it?



I'm mighty disappointed, SJ flipped Citizen.
But now we have information that SJ is Town, which will help with reads in the game because opinions are all over the place!
(Which I had previously said)

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Spoiler : RLVG's RLVG ISO (Biggest Wall of Text EVER :

Here I vote Marshmallow for the early bullshit.



Here's just me putting on a stance towards Marshmallow about wtf is going on.



Here I counter Iced Monopoly's claim of the potential theory I chat with "my mafia team mates" before the game even started, which ain't possible.
Good try, Iced.



More Marshmallow bullshit, I counter YZB's idea with that it could be a misunderstanding from a different thread.



This is potentially my first fluff post, but I'm kinda serious about Firebringer - if Firebringer even appeared... SAD



I subtly call out Mesk on fluff, and with a serious pointing out on that Mesk seems uninitiated / uninterested.



I call out on Marshmallow for being weird, Spruance for making a logical fallacy, and I inform YZB it's a vanilla game.



My first wall of text, woohoo.

1. I'm calling out on YZB for parking his vote on someone who ain't around thus the vote ain't being effective.
2. I'm calling out on Hybrid for shit logic. "I want to threaten people, so I'm gonna leave and return later to actually do it", such procrastinatino.
3. Here's my first call out on Superjack. "I don't like RLVG, asking useless questions" - really? I say SJ tried to make me look bad.
4. I call out on YZB that I wasn't around because of timezone differences.
5A. Replying to a wall of text, so I've edited the quote with two lines to make it easier to see.
5B. Basically I'm calling out on Stealth for their shitty priority, broken train of thoughts, how 'aggressive' they were before insta-submissive? Dafuq.
6. I'm informing Hybrid that there's things known as WIFOM, gambits and et cetera, and we shouldn't simply rely on a single strategy.
7. I'm calling out on Spruance for not wanting to lynch active players because it kills the game. What if scum are active?
8. It's a continuation from 7, when I'm showing Spruance that activity is regulated in this game.

And conclusion, I'm voting Stealthbomber for the bullshit, back in point 5.



I'm poking YZB to give an opinion between Hybrid and Stealth. Cue mispelling their name lol.



Another wall of text! Smaller though.

1. I'm saying that I have a real life, that's why I wasn't around at the time.
2. I'm asking Mesk about the seemingly avoiding the Marshmallow discussion, or seemingly not linking them to anyone.
3. Calling out on Mesk for shit meta. NAI.
4. Also calling out on Hybrid for buddying up to Mesk.



I'm mentioning that SJ's votes has potentially more sheep than serious votes.
Also warning everyone it's L-1 and showing the votes.



Here I am being passive-aggressive about the L-1 and I'm mentioning about the plurality vote.
An important thing right here - I explicitly say I won't hammer. This doesn't mean I won't vote.



Here's my shitty logic as to why either me (RLVG), Iced Monopoly or Spruance is scum, based on the idea that SuperJack is actually scum.
Also a hidden callout from me that my eyes are on Iced for being scummy.

Next is that I'm calling out on Marshmallow about how I am seemingly cowarded when I'm not, and presenting the plurality vote mechanic.



Here I'm showing SJ the vote posts in question and also pointing out that there's some sheeping here.



Joking that Omega is Firebringer 2.0.

Then I'm pointing out that discussion isn't as it should be, because it's all over the fucking place. You're scum, you're scum and yooouuu'reee scum!
This guy is scum because X reason, meta or feel.
This guy is scum because why not and I'd rather die.
Let's switch opinion right away.

Honestly? Fuck that, I'd rather get some information so we can continue with proper discussion. However - I'm not hammering as I mentioned before.
This gives a subtle pressure to the players.

Right after that, I'm threatening Hybrid that I will hammer if Hybrid doesn't unvote for real after the 100 failed attempts.
It gave me so much OCD. My threat was empty though because if I was serious about hammering, I'd do it right away.



Here I'm calling out Iced for trying to seem desperate geting votes away from SuperJack, which genuinely gives me the associate impression and a better solid scumread to SJ, who I previously just thought as 'scummy' for trying to go all ad hominem on my ass. I saw two mafia teams at this point.

I don't outright say I think of SJ as scum though. My previous stance is that SJ is far more informative because of the influence circle of players.

After that, I point out the 'sheep' could also help with reading the game.

Then I point out to SuperJack that their early interaction of the game is shit, but the other players made a heck out of a deal about SJ so their influence is more important than SuperJack's in the early game, which then I point out that SuperJack was forced to interact with the response players have made.

Lastly, I thraten Hybrid that if they get the unvote wrong 1 more time, I'm hammering. (Again another empty threat)
I was nice enough to provide the unvote code.



Here I'm just correcting myself.



I'm calling out on Hybrid for an extremely poor mindset. "They're town, but I can lynch them if you want to", holy shit is that bad.



Naturally Hybrid responds that it's some kind of shit WIFOM, so I'm just saying that this is too newbie bait for me to work.



Here I am going to sleep, and because SuperJack is L-2, I'm voting them so I'm not hammering but my intend to lynch vote remains.

So with all that shit said...

MY CALL OUT ON LIES ARE SOLID! THERE'S NO EVIDENCE ON THE BASE OF LIES!

Iced is Scum. Trying to undermine me and make me look bad, post lies to get me in a negative light, intentionally sheep with someone to try and make themselves look town, defend a town to look town, trying to get me lynched for potential shit reasons, and it doesn't feel like a town Iced at all.

Don't take this out of context, the big wall of text is there for a reason.

I have never said SJ is Town, and other stuff. If I had to guess scum team, it's Iced_Monopoly, Stealthbomber16 and either Mesk orHybrid.

-vote Iced_Monopoly

1st it isnt a sheep defence since i ve been defending him...
2nd I forgot the mechanics sorry this is my litreally 3rd game...
3rd This isn't a lie... Youl itreally did this.
4th Tbh, Iced is just trolling the game there can be no obvious scum like him...
5th SJ was town as i said...
6th Yeah MM is retardish sometimes
7th TOLD YOU LONG AGO


I told you guys he was fucking citizen but no listens only do the thing you want.

[Hybrid]

Can't believe you guys lynched sj... RVLG shouldn't have voted like a retard...

I assume that my vote isnt on atm so I will just vote him again.

-vote RLVG

[RLVG]

Can't believe you guys lynched sj... RVLG shouldn't have voted like a retard...

I assume that my vote isnt on atm so I will just vote him again.

-vote RLVG

"Voted like a retard", well, good sir, it's normal in a Day 1 game. I voted who I genuinely thought as scum, though it could be a viewpoint that was fabricated by the real scum.
The town flip is disappointing, but it's not pointless : it gives a lot of information. A lynch isn't information lacking.

With a Confirmed Flip, as in - someone is confirmed - we can read potential associations based on roles.

Also, did I mention I avoided hammering? It was to allow discussion, which is something we need, in a game without investigation roles.

Discredit everything I said, suuure.

4th Tbh, Iced is just trolling the game there can be no obvious scum like him...

I request a proper explanation of this.

[Hybrid]

"Voted like a retard", well, good sir, it's normal in a Day 1 game. I voted who I genuinely thought as scum, though it could be a viewpoint that was fabricated by the real scum.
The town flip is disappointing, but it's not pointless : it gives a lot of information. A lynch isn't information lacking.

With a Confirmed Flip, as in - someone is confirmed - we can read potential associations based on roles.

Also, did I mention I avoided hammering? It was to allow discussion, which is something we need, in a game without investigation roles.

Discredit everything I said, suuure.



I request a proper explanation of this.

Nope you were just like: "I ll make it seem like i trolled, but not fall for Hybrid's trap" so it's more like you really wanted to lynch SJ in the end which not giving a shit about my proofs about SJ's town. Like seriously I've pushed him as far as I can. I didn't want him to be lynched. He wasn't lying as well so...

Also my 4th reason is Iced just can't be mafia, I've never seen someone being that obvious LMAO. Also he defended SJ so even if he is mafia he actually know how to play, or maybe want to play town x)

[RLVG]

Also my 4th reason is Iced just can't be mafia, I've never seen someone being that obvious LMAO. Also he defended SJ so even if he is mafia he actually know how to play, or maybe want to play town x)

You're a scum associate, thanks for making the game easier.

Iced is not a newbie. "Too scummy to be scum" is a logical fallacy not to be taken lightweight of.
Also, didn't I multiple times say that defending SJ is just an act to look towny since SJ would seemingly get lynched anyway?
And I'm apparently the counterwagon for whatever reason, so in the scenario I'm lynched and I flip town - SJ would be next because of the counterwagon fallacy.

I'm 100% convinced that Iced is scum, and I'm certain you're scum with them.

[RLVG]

Just making sure you're not pulling words up your behind, make a case as to why they're "obvious scum", leading up to the "too scummy to be scum", thus town.
What makes them so obvious? This is a request, make a case.

[Hybrid]

You're a scum associate, thanks for making the game easier.

Iced is not a newbie. "Too scummy to be scum" is a logical fallacy not to be taken lightweight of.
Also, didn't I multiple times say that defending SJ is just an act to look towny since SJ would seemingly get lynched anyway?
And I'm apparently the counterwagon for whatever reason, so in the scenario I'm lynched and I flip town - SJ would be next because of the counterwagon fallacy.

I'm 100% convinced that Iced is scum, and I'm certain you're scum with them.

Yes just like SJ you started to accusations then, why didn't you request everyone to unvote sj, and vote up and lynch him instead? Answer this SJs death was unnecessary made by your unnecessary vote

[RLVG]

Yes just like SJ you started to accusations then, why didn't you request everyone to unvote sj, and vote up and lynch him instead? Answer this SJs death was unnecessary made by your unnecessary vote

You didn't read my wall of text. +scumpoints.

[Hybrid]

Just making sure you're not pulling words up your behind, make a case as to why they're "obvious scum", leading up to the "too scummy to be scum", thus town.
What makes them so obvious? This is a request, make a case.

I am not even sure who iced is voting or thought rn.
It was me at the first, then SB then he seemed like he was hostile to sj but i am not sure he changed sides too much which he probably trolling. Geez can't you even think of that? OR you don't want to think of that?

[Hybrid]

You didn't read my wall of text. +scumpoints.

If you think Iced is scum go on and lynch with the others, he will be end up as town and we will have no more chance but lynch both scums at the same time

[Hybrid]

But RLVG I am here the one who is thinking you as a scum

[RLVG]

I am not even sure who iced is voting or thought rn.
It was me at the first, then SB then he seemed like he was hostile to sj but i am not sure he changed sides too much which he probably trolling. Geez can't you even think of that? OR you don't want to think of that?

At the top bar of the thread, there's Vote Count which you can click.

Current vote is that Iced votes for me and I vote for Iced. You're thinking of me as scum, why not vote me?

As for that "case", is that really your reasoning behind why Iced is obv-scum to the point they're so scummy they can't be scum?

If you think Iced is scum go on and lynch with the others

Why the fuck do you think I'm voting Iced? LOL

But RLVG I am here the one who is thinking you as a scum

If you think I'm scum, then vote me!

[Hybrid]

At the top bar of the thread, there's Vote Count which you can click.

Current vote is that Iced votes for me and I vote for Iced. You're thinking of me as scum, why not vote me?

As for that "case", is that really your reasoning behind why Iced is obv-scum to the point they're so scummy they can't be scum?



Why the fuck do you think I'm voting Iced? LOL



If you think I'm scum, then vote me!

Yea i think like that so, well he might be scum as well i don t know him that much since it s my only 3rd game and i ddon t see him around in normal mafia but seriously if he is mafia he should not play anymore of this thing

Well yea, but be more determined about it

I already did vote you x)

[RLVG]

Yea i think like that so, well he might be scum as well i don t know him that much since it s my only 3rd game and i ddon t see him around in normal mafia but seriously if he is mafia he should not play anymore of this thing

Well yea, but be more determined about it

I already did vote you x)

Oh, I'm retarded. I thought it was Iced that was voting me, but it was you.

+1 points to you for me being stupid.

Iced_Monopoly (1 [L-4]):
RLVG

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RLVG (1 [L-4]):
Hybrid

Anyway, you're still on the "too scum to be scum" fallacy, lol.
3 games isn't enough to understand how players behave here either.

You're also kinda ignoring the whole ordeal that you're very likely a scum associate.

[Hybrid]

But anyways, I didn't vote you cause of Iced, I vote you cause of your stupid vote of SJ that got him lynched...He was tottaly town in my opinion...