S-FM 215: Inside Job

[PowersThatBe]

This game is super active. Just saying.

[MattZed]

This game is super active. Just saying.

I would tell you how the activity of this game compares to the M-FM, but that would actually be cheating for those involved.

You likely do have a point about yzb being TPR, though.

[Firebringer]

I would tell you how the activity of this game compares to the M-FM, but that would actually be cheating for those involved.

You likely do have a point about yzb being TPR, though.

What a cock tease.

[XDarkDragonDX]

I would tell you how the activity of this game compares to the M-FM, but that would actually be cheating for those involved.

You likely do have a point about yzb being TPR, though.

We all know that you are the SK

[MattZed]

We all know that you are the SK

I certainly hope not. Mesk would have to be gamethrowing to tell everyone she was my student.

[PowersThatBe]

I would tell you how the activity of this game compares to the M-FM, but that would actually be cheating for those involved.

You likely do have a point about yzb being TPR, though.

THE THROW OFF. GET YOUR WIFOM BS OUT OF HERE.

YZB AND MATTYZED.

LOOK AT MATT TRYING TO MAKE ME THINK MY THOUGHT ABOUT YZB BEING POSSIBLE TPR IS PLAUSIBLE. He's subtly trying to make me see YZB as green -- without really coming out and defending him.

SCUM THEY'RE SCUM.

[MattZed]

THE THROW OFF. GET YOUR WIFOM BS OUT OF HERE.

YZB AND MATTYZED.

LOOK AT MATT TRYING TO MAKE ME THINK MY THOUGHT ABOUT YZB BEING POSSIBLE TPR IS PLAUSIBLE. He's subtly trying to make me see YZB as green -- without really coming out and defending him.

SCUM THEY'RE SCUM.

I do not even know why I tried.

[PowersThatBe]

I do not even know why I tried.

LOOK AT YOUR SIGNATURE.

[MattZed]

LOOK AT YOUR SIGNATURE.

I'm voting you for ruining my WIFOM.

-vote PowersThatBe

[XDarkDragonDX]

Get the scum out of the town

-vote MattZed

[PowersThatBe]

I'm voting you for ruining my WIFOM.

-vote PowersThatBe

HOW COULD YOU, YOU WERE MY FORMER MENTOR. MY MY MY ....Matt Zed must be lynched tomorrow no matter what.

[MattZed]

Get the scum out of the town

-vote MattZed

No u.

HOW COULD YOU, YOU WERE MY FORMER MENTOR. MY MY MY ....Matt Zed must be lynched tomorrow no matter what.

1v1 me m8.

[PowersThatBe]

No u.



1v1 me m8.

Brah, I was afk during the last game we played with the archons. I came back and in less than an hour, I took over my archon, and hard pushed for @Unknown1234 to be lynched. Don't make me come for you. Should I survive n1.

VOTE MATT ZED -- MAKE THIS GAME GREAT AGAIN.

[PowersThatBe]

#i'mwithher #@mesk514 2016

[PowersThatBe]

-vote mattzedd

[MattZed]

Brah, I was afk during the last game we played with the archons. I came back and in less than an hour, I took over my archon, and hard pushed for @Unknown1234 to be lynched. Don't make me come for you. Should I survive n1.

VOTE MATT ZED -- MAKE THIS GAME GREAT AGAIN.

If I were scum, I'd probably kill you N1, tbh. #lockhimup

[PowersThatBe]

If I were scum, I'd probably kill you N1, tbh. #lockhimup

See, now when I die n1 he can claim that he put the idea out there and scum stole it. Making it look like scum is framing him, but really he came up with a great idea to kill me and to get the blame off of him. And if I don't die, he can say well I said if I was scum you'd be dead n1 :P

#mattzedforprison2016

Since this is just two matt's wifoming all over each other's faces, I'm gonna take a nap!

[Unknown1234]

Honestly Town was dumb for lynching me, but my claim didn't really help (or that I was sleeping during my lunch)

[MattZed]

See, now when I die n1 he can claim that he put the idea out there and scum stole it. Making it look like scum is framing him, but really he came up with a great idea to kill me and to get the blame off of him. And if I don't die, he can say well I said if I was scum you'd be dead n1 :P

#mattzedforprison2016

Since this is just two matt's wifoming all over each other's faces, I'm gonna take a nap!

You may be better at WIFOM than I thought. Well done.

[Mesk514]

I certainly hope not. Mesk would have to be gamethrowing to tell everyone she was my student.

Can you hold off on this infraction? I don't like having too many going at the same time.

[Yukitaka Oni]

I thought we can't lynch day 1?!?!? Why not focus on strategy rather than scumhunt? It won't worth much right now because most likely nobody feel danger from being lynch day 1 anyway? (Host claim not lynch day 1 right?)

[PowersThatBe]

-vote MattZedd

[PowersThatBe]

-vote MattZed

[PowersThatBe]

THESE ARE SYMBOLIC VOTES. I would like for Matt to be taken out nmw tomorrow.

[Mesk514]

- PM @Unknown1234 Check MattZed tonight

[Unknown1234]

Lol I don't see why Matt is scum. Also, you people need to stop tagging me.

[PowersThatBe]

Possible Secret Police Force roles: Detective, Lookout.
Possible Town roles: Bodyguard, Citizen, Doctor, Escort.

Here's our play.

Unknown on MattZed
Lookout on me.

Doc/BG on Unknown

Escort on YZB

This way we will know for sure if yzb and Matt are scum. Also, it will limit are pool of suspects if someone from the pool dies.

[PowersThatBe]

Lol I don't see why Matt is scum. Also, you people need to stop tagging me.

You don't see his obvious scum slips? And his way too obvious attempts at trying to use WIFOM? IDK.

[Mesk514]

probably gonna die cause unknowns a prick

[PowersThatBe]

Also, Brendan has gotten away with barely any posts.

His "I don't feel like reading this cancer" approach is validated by DD's bullshit posting. I'm willing to have unknown check out brendan tonight and yzb still receive the block if there's an escort.

Essentially, I think we should check Zed tonight and Lynch Brendan tomorrow... or .... vice versa / read what happens given who was targeted n1 and such.

[PowersThatBe]

Gosh, I wish there was a day 1 lynch. The lack of one really gave people the opportunity to not participate

Hopefully the Secret police and TPR's go with my plan so that we can gain some info going into day 2.

I like neat little bows.

[yzb25]

@yzb25 -- When did I post other town power roles? I only posted my thoughts AFTER unknown hard-claimed Det. Joke or not, I'm fishing for something.

I could take your criticism in one of two ways.

1. You are scum, feigning annoyance or agitation to me claiming you're TPR. Thus giving credence to any soft claim you might have made. All the while, you were the SK.

2. You're TPR and you just slipped hardcore. Don't get baited.


Brendan welcome to town. YZB welcome to scum.

The only developed reads you've talked about, as far as I can see, me and DD, both partially include a TPR read. Like, it was sort-of contextual with the DD thing so I didn't say anything, but now you've posted the entire read wall and... No... I heavily disagree with these plays...

You seemed to have misinterpreted my message - I wasn't necessarily talking about myself. The important point is, every role has its own role worth softing (perhaps itself), to try and misdirect the NK to get the optimal group-formations for when we start trying to FOS/deduce roles/whateverer. By stating your TPR reads so early outright like that, you're fucking things up.

The most obviously worst one is the protectives. Legit posting who you think is protective and potentially giving scum inspiration in which protectives they should look for is a massive strategic blunder. If DD gets nightkilled because they reckon your protective read is spot-on, for example, and they turn out to be right, it will be bad.

I don't scumread you for this, because scum share a night chat where they can post their TPR reads and try and suss out where they should place the NK anyway. But talking about these things in d1-chat is still a misplay, in my opinion. Anyway, you're reading the wrong kind of anger in my posts lol :P

anyway, PLEASE DON'T POST ANOTHER READWALL ON D1 LIKE THAT... IT'S TRIGGERING...

[PowersThatBe]

The only developed reads you've talked about, as far as I can see, me and DD, both partially include a TPR read. Like, it was sort-of contextual with the DD thing so I didn't say anything, but now you've posted the entire read wall and... No... I heavily disagree with these plays...

You seemed to have misinterpreted my message - I wasn't necessarily talking about myself. The important point is, every role has its own role worth softing (perhaps itself), to try and misdirect the NK to get the optimal group-formations for when we start trying to FOS/deduce roles/whateverer. By stating your TPR reads so early outright like that, you're fucking things up.

The most obviously worst one is the protectives. Legit posting who you think is protective and potentially giving scum inspiration in which protectives they should look for is a massive strategic blunder. If DD gets nightkilled because they reckon your protective read is spot-on, for example, and they turn out to be right, it will be bad.

I don't scumread you for this, because scum share a night chat where they can post their TPR reads and try and suss out where they should place the NK anyway. But talking about these things in d1-chat is still a misplay, in my opinion. Anyway, you're reading the wrong kind of anger in my posts lol :P

anyway, PLEASE DON'T POST ANOTHER READWALL ON D1 LIKE THAT... IT'S TRIGGERING...

You think it's a misplay, and that's your opinion. Every post has a reason, and every reason is my reason.

I never said you were talking about yourself. I am saying if you are scum or tpr you would feel the need to respond...which you did.

Also, losing DD would not be bad. He's a shit-poster imo and does little to contribute. He's come in saying MESK IS EVIL MESK IS EVIL MESK IS EVIL, and is tunneling her before she's even had a chance to play.

You putting some much emphasis on my reads or giving them so much value MUST mean I've hit pretty close to something. Because, as I've stated, I'm hard claiming a citizen, and there's 1 hard claim of TPR...so...you're more mad at me for posting "reads" but you're not mad that unknown hardclaimed a TPR??! Why is that?

Perhaps maybe because you're scum????

[Mesk514]

i laugh i laugh i laugh

[PowersThatBe]

i laugh i laugh i laugh

Good laugh, bad laugh, no laugh?

[Mesk514]

Good laugh, bad laugh, no laugh?

this game. i laugh.

[yzb25]

You think it's a misplay, and that's your opinion. Every post has a reason, and every reason is my reason.

I never said you were talking about yourself. I am saying if you are scum or tpr you would feel the need to respond...which you did.

Also, losing DD would not be bad. He's a shit-poster imo and does little to contribute. He's come in saying MESK IS EVIL MESK IS EVIL MESK IS EVIL, and is tunneling her before she's even had a chance to play.

You putting some much emphasis on my reads or giving them so much value MUST mean I've hit pretty close to something. Because, as I've stated, I'm hard claiming a citizen, and there's 1 hard claim of TPR...so...you're more mad at me for posting "reads" but you're not mad that unknown hardclaimed a TPR??! Why is that?

Perhaps maybe because you're scum????

I brought up your reads because you asked me when you'd talked about tprs =P The only way I could know my own and DD's role is if we're both scum together... but then I can't be scum with mattzed. Fuck, if I was so intimidated by the reads on me and DD I'd probably be too scared to bring it up - try and shove it under the rug, y'know? Your reasoning appears to be losing rigorousness. Be more critical of your own theories pls >.>

Again, individuals have their own reason for approaching their softing/claiming in different ways, that may or may not be honest or may or may not be strategically viable given their role, however, you DEFINITELY do not know for sure whether assigning someone a role is strategically viable, because you do not know their original role. This is the underlying point.

Fuck it, you seem to understand, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Hell, if you post another readwall - it will probably only serve to devalue the first (and the new one), so this discussion is pretty meaningless at this point. Please, post 3 more readwalls LOL.

Just resist puking every thought that grazes your brain =P

[PowersThatBe]

I brought up your reads because you asked me when you'd talked about tprs =P The only way I could know my own and DD's role is if we're both scum together... but then I can't be scum with mattzed. Fuck, if I was so intimidated by the reads on me and DD I'd probably be too scared to bring it up - try and shove it under the rug, y'know? Your reasoning appears to be losing rigorousness. Be more critical of your own theories pls >.>

Again, individuals have their own reason for approaching their softing/claiming in different ways, that may or may not be honest or may or may not be strategically viable given their role, however, you DEFINITELY do not know for sure whether assigning someone a role is strategically viable, because you do not know their original role. This is the underlying point.

Fuck it, you seem to understand, you're just arguing for the sake of arguing. Hell, if you post another readwall - it will probably only serve to devalue the first (and the new one), so this discussion is pretty meaningless at this point. Please, post 3 more readwalls LOL.

Just resist puking every thought that grazes your brain =P

HA

You clearly don't know who i am

@Mesk514 -- please tell him about my read wall from the beginners game. If he thinks this is bad.

I have not even remotely blurted out everything in my mind.

TBH no one is even really playing in this game right now. You and DD, Matt, and Unknown were really all I had to go on.

I made theories, and as time develops, and as we get some flips going into day 2 -- I'll be able to go with them or change them.

However, I never said you KNEW what DD's role was. I said I clearly hit a nerve regarding YOU. You seem to REALLY care about my posts...and I just don't know why you're putting so much stock into my thoughts. They're truly meaningless Day 1, unless, of course, you are a TPR or Scum role and you do not want the spot light on you. So you are attempting to devalue my input by telling us all about how bad of a play it is. Which is fine, game respect game.

We wont know anything, unless the TPRS follow my plan above for NIGHT ACTIONS. I think that will help us figure stuff out more.


Also, as I have stated again and again. I am not a good FM player, I come to games, tunnel an innocent member of my team via over analysis and then get them mislynched by endlessly campaigning.

Day 2 I push some one on the opposite side of my theories and get them mislynched. Then I get killed.

Except last game I played, I successfully pushed a lynch on Unknown and got taken out the very next night because my archon got too close to the truth.

[Mesk514]

HA

You clearly don't know who i am

@Mesk514 -- please tell him about my read wall from the beginners game. If he thinks this is bad.

PTB, the only person to throughly read himself and come to the conclusion that he was in fact town.

[Unknown1234]

"Got too close to the truth" lol.

[PowersThatBe]

"Got too close to the truth" lol.

We did! We said whatever his name was scum and he turned out to be scum. We just mislynched you lol...because you know, pre flip associations and all.

[PowersThatBe]

PTB, the only person to throughly read himself and come to the conclusion that he was in fact town.

God, I remember I spent so many pages defending that LOL. Oy vey.

[yzb25]

HA

You clearly don't know who i am

@Mesk514 -- please tell him about my read wall from the beginners game. If he thinks this is bad.

I have not even remotely blurted out everything in my mind.

TBH no one is even really playing in this game right now. You and DD, Matt, and Unknown were really all I had to go on.

I made theories, and as time develops, and as we get some flips going into day 2 -- I'll be able to go with them or change them.

However, I never said you KNEW what DD's role was. I said I clearly hit a nerve regarding YOU. You seem to REALLY care about my posts...and I just don't know why you're putting so much stock into my thoughts. They're truly meaningless Day 1, unless, of course, you are a TPR or Scum role and you do not want the spot light on you. So you are attempting to devalue my input by telling us all about how bad of a play it is. Which is fine, game respect game.

We wont know anything, unless the TPRS follow my plan above for NIGHT ACTIONS. I think that will help us figure stuff out more.


Also, as I have stated again and again. I am not a good FM player, I come to games, tunnel an innocent member of my team via over analysis and then get them mislynched by endlessly campaigning.

Day 2 I push some one on the opposite side of my theories and get them mislynched. Then I get killed.

Except last game I played, I successfully pushed a lynch on Unknown and got taken out the very next night because my archon got too close to the truth.

Dude, I'm sitting here writing essays upon essays about why risking messing up WIFOM attemps with the readwall can affect group deduction, or FOS later on in the game. You are not reading between the lines. You are literally backspacing my lines and going "nah I think you're actually interested in that thing over there tho". I do not have any problem with the fact your play may have flaws - I'm no better. I am the twattiest of all the twats when it comes to this game. I just feel like I'm not being listened to right now.

Oh my god, I'm so cranky tonight. I have no idea why I'm so cranky tonight. I'm sorry, I just... Oh my god my autism's been triggered.

This is like someone choosing the number 24. WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY CHOOSE 24 WHEN THEY'RE SO CLOSE TO FUCKING 25. OH MY GOD. NO. NOT ONLY IS 25 A PERFECT SQUARE, BUT BY BEING THE COMPOSITION OF 2 AND 5 IT BEAUTIFULLY LINKS TO 10 AND THE BASE 10 SYSTEM. WHY CAN'T THAT CRETIN HAVE ANY APPRECIATION FOR THE NATURAL NUMBERS?! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD. NO... NO...

Where we again? Oh yeah, I appreciate if you're refraining from posting other reads, but pls don't post TPR speculation on other players. Let other players handle their own WIFOM chains then post your analyses later. I vaguely remember making such points.

I need a time-out. Ugh.

[Cryptonic]

S-FM Inside Job

Night 1

Setup: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post612214

Role List	Living Players	Graveyard
Serial Killer Student Hidden Secret Police Force Hidden Secret Police Force Hidden Town Hidden Town Citizen Citizen Citizen	@Brendan @MattZed @XDarkDragonDX @PowersThatBe @Yukitaka Oni @Mesk514 @Firebringer @yzb25 @Unknown1234

Night will end @ 7:00 PM Eastern, November 10.
Night actions must be received prior to 1 hour before night ends.
Night chats are now open.

[Cryptonic]

Sorry guys I typed up the post and forgot to hit send before I left to the store. I'll be home in 15 min's to open

[Cryptonic]

S-FM Inside Job

Day 2

Brendan was killed last night.
His role was Detective.

Role List	Living Players	Graveyard
Serial Killer Student Hidden Secret Police Force Hidden Town Hidden Town Citizen Citizen Citizen	@MattZed @XDarkDragonDX @PowersThatBe @Yukitaka Oni @Mesk514 @Firebringer @yzb25 @Unknown1234	Brendan (Detective)

Day 2 will end @ 7:00 PM Eastern, November 12.
With 8 people alive, it takes 5 votes to hammer.

Also, with 1 Secret Police already dead, Nights will be reduced to 24 hours unless there are any objections.

[Mesk514]

LOL well then. I'm the real Detective. YZB is not the SK. that's that.

I'm thinking Firebringer tbh

[Mesk514]

Unknown, who did you check last night.

[Unknown1234]

I'm not Detective lol.

[Mesk514]

I'm not Detective lol.

no but you're clearly clueless.