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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    @Kenny @Arsonist @Yayap @Mike @Ganelon @Glip @Eclipse

    Day 4 - Lynch 1


    Efekannn02 was lynched. His role was will be revealed at the end of day.


    Spoiler : Alive :

    Kenny
    The Lawyer Arsonist
    Yayap
    Mike
    Ganelon
    Banshis Glip
    Eclipse


    Spoiler : Dead :

    Light_Yagami - Citizen(Town) - Hit by the mafia night 1
    Marshmallow Marshall - Cross Reality Bus Driver(Town) - Lynched day 2
    Damus_Graves - Cross Reality Gunsmith(Town) - Hit by the mafia night 2
    Stealthbomber16 Slaol - Citizen(Town) - Hit by the mafia night 3
    Bahkieh - Citizen(Town) - Modkilled day 4
    Effekannn02 - ???


    Day will continue for up to 48 hours more.

    • 00

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    DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS





    4 votes to hammer.


  7. ISO #957

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Auckmid View Post
    [LEFT @Kenny @Arsonist @Yayap @Mike @Ganelon @Glip @Eclipse

    Day 4 - Lynch 1


    Efekannn02 was lynched. His role was will be revealed at the end of day.


    Spoiler : Alive :

    Kenny
    The Lawyer Arsonist
    Yayap
    Mike
    Ganelon
    Banshis Glip
    Eclipse



    Spoiler : Dead :

    Light_Yagami - Citizen(Town) - Hit by the mafia night 1
    Marshmallow Marshall - Cross Reality Bus Driver(Town) - Lynched day 2
    Damus_Graves - Cross Reality Gunsmith(Town) - Hit by the mafia night 2
    Stealthbomber16 Slaol - Citizen(Town) - Hit by the mafia night 3
    Bahkieh - Citizen(Town) - Modkilled day 4
    Effekannn02 - ???


    [/LEFT]
    Day will continue for up to 48 hours more.

    [Countdown Timers Cannot be Quoted from Other Posts]



    4 votes to hammer.

    @Kenny as well, link failed.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Wow, we have 3 mafia and the best play is to go after a confessed Neutral ????

    just lynch me I give up town deserves to lose. I made my post will not be posting any more feel free to scum paint me all you want yayap. mafia won. Town to stupid.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    From what I understand, I'm one of the town's plantation owners who secretly sided with the mages against the templars in the past because I wanted to be on what I saw was going to be the winning team, taking bribes from the mages and using my wealth and influence to peddle drugs to help control the populace.

    Now that the anti-magic freedom fighters have emerged and I'm getting old, I'm hoping to avoid any more fighting. Hoping the mages can quell the conflict before it reaches me, I've given a generous donation to their cause.



    Very well then. To keep the day going, if we won't get traction anywhere else, I'll put my vote on the confirmed evil.

    -vote Efekannn02


    Sorry buddy.
    you have been townie but this feel like you are explaining why you are lynching elf. as in you know his flip.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    @Mike @Glip @Eclipse @Arsonist
    EoD is in 1 hour if noone gets lynched. Please be aware of this.
    why push on an outed neutral????? you and glip could have just as easyly voted Yayap. Something feels off about all this.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Auckmid View Post
    Day 4 Lynch 1 - Final Vote Count

    Efekannn02(4): Yayap, Ganelon, Kenny, Glip
    Yayap(2): Mike, Efekannn02
    Arsonist(1): Eclipse
    It is interesting the votes on elf as in the people. Why didn't arson vote? I belive mafia protected there own.
    -vote yayap
    this is who we need to vote next. I told you all vote yayap and Ganelon for both lynches now mafia is garenteed 2 alive tonight. Do as you will town. At this point IDGAF.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    why push on an outed neutral????? you and glip could have just as easyly voted Yayap. Something feels off about all this.
    I have stated several times that if I were to vote in that direction it'd be on either Ganelon or Arsonist. I am not willing to vote the only sheriff claim we have here. As such the choice was also either Efekan, the confirmed neutral, or a no-lynch and the same situation, but likely without me, tomorrow again.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny View Post
    I have stated several times that if I were to vote in that direction it'd be on either Ganelon or Arsonist. I am not willing to vote the only sheriff claim we have here. As such the choice was also either Efekan, the confirmed neutral, or a no-lynch and the same situation, but likely without me, tomorrow again.
    *confirmed scum, not neutral. For all we know a 10-3 is still possible.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Efekannn02(4): Yayap, Ganelon, Kenny, Glip ->town core
    Yayap(2): Mike, Efekannn02 -> scum
    Arsonist(1): Eclipse -> wth is this? 2 scum or 1 scum and 1 town afk/lurker/gamethrower?


    That pretty much sums up my reads after part 1 of the day.

    I'll make a bigger post to show my reads on Arsonist vs Eclipse with quotes.

  17. ISO #967

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Arsonist with a whopping 16 posts total:
    Spoiler : Arsonists posts :
    Day 3:
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    Thanks for tl;dr version of previous day
    -vote Mike
    This is where is vote ended at the end of day 3.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    Due efekannn02's nature, he may be a town, just a troll.
    To be honest a troll is kinda bad too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    So you're claiming that me = you? Or it's a magic mirror from Terraria that will teleport me to your house?
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    +MM is already dead
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    Ok, mike is just seems to swear a lot and say "i don't guve a fuck, ur scum yayap".
    Whole game summed in 1 post tbh.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    I don't know that much about this game but it seems like Mike f**ked up with the code and started being agressive (Chill out, man, it's just a game!).
    So it's a Mike VS Yayap scandal, i think Mike is scum because Yayap has many cool throughts that help me to understand what's happening.
    end of day read is that he thinks that Efe is trolling hard and can't read him at all and he sided with me vs Mike


    Day 4:

    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    nooo he got killed
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    heeey i'm not scum in neither of realities
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    proably cit or something but it's good 4 us
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    what
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    Shut the fuck up
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    Since 90% of Efekannn02's posts are jokes i'm just gonna respond his jokes with jokes and it wouldn't be scummy because it's a joke! :smartass:

    Admiral Ganelon, they want to lynch you together! Do anything or we'll lose this battle!


    Smart move!


    Because we won't lynch you? #ROASTED


    Hey, don't overstimate yourself, you're too young to be the mayor



    You just revealed your strategy! Admiral Ganelon, we still can win.

    So yeah, this post is a huge shitpost.
    Thanks for wasting ur time on reading it lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    I can't provide any help due not knowing about the setup and what's happening.
    So yeah, i'm just useless.
    You can lynch me if you want.

    Anyways i'll just shitpost and maybe someone will find a hidden meaning in my shitposts...
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    Taking efekannnn02's posts seriously in 2019 be like...
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    Anyways, i'm a useless Mason.
    And Eclipse is my teammate, idk why he voted me .
    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    So yeah, @Eclipse look at ur rolecard again
    Seems to be clueless how the setup works - defends himself against Eclipse, provides retorts against Efe but doesn't vote.




    Basically, I don't see any major scum points other than the lack of a vote on Efe. His cluelessness about the setup could be genuine (he was a replacement after all) or could be fake so I'll ignore that. He didn't defend Efe or try to detract any discussion away from him so small + pts for that. He did vote Mike d3, +pts in my books.

    I'll go check up on Eclipse now.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    ? I'm not a mason anymore

    if he's mason, he's telling porkies or maybe he's mason with someone else?

    someone confirm for Asonist, if you're his partner come out

    I HARDCLAIM NOT ASO'S mason, I'm citizen this present
    Wait you got un-masoned?
    Just my rolecard was proably on previous day anyways.
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  19. ISO #969

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    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    And Also How The Hell Does Town Think Scum Would Train On Someone If The Entire Town Is Lurking What The Hell Did You Guys Think While Training On Me

    Only Scum Would Train On Me And Im The Only Comfiirmed Neutral Ffs
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    Eclipse If You Are Neutral Side With Me If Not Then Help Me Get The Mafia Lynched
    If you're a neutral, then why you want get mafia lynched?
    First non-joke quote, beware!
    -vote Efekannn02
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    Arsonist with a whopping 16 posts total:
    Spoiler : Arsonists posts :
    Day 3:

    This is where is vote ended at the end of day 3.









    end of day read is that he thinks that Efe is trolling hard and can't read him at all and he sided with me vs Mike


    Day 4:





















    Seems to be clueless how the setup works - defends himself against Eclipse, provides retorts against Efe but doesn't vote.




    Basically, I don't see any major scum points other than the lack of a vote on Efe. His cluelessness about the setup could be genuine (he was a replacement after all) or could be fake so I'll ignore that. He didn't defend Efe or try to detract any discussion away from him so small + pts for that. He did vote Mike d3, +pts in my books.

    I'll go check up on Eclipse now.
    Funny, that i didn't voted efekannn02 because he was so scummy, so i didn't take him seriously due his troll nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Wow, we have 3 mafia and the best play is to go after a confessed Neutral ????

    just lynch me I give up town deserves to lose. I made my post will not be posting any more feel free to scum paint me all you want yayap. mafia won. Town to stupid.
    Yeah, we can't lynch a single guy because:
    Yayap VS Mike drama
    Lots of AFKs
    Efekannn02 is gay
    Wait... Efekannn02 is gay?
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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    You are a bit late to the party Arsonist - Efe has already been lynched. While you are here, can you release the mason chats for night 1 and 2 for the past? I have a hunch and want to examine them.
    Hmm, he gave me links but somehow they doesn't open...
    Mason Chat (20 Years Ago): https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/RBTrxYwkP8f
    Night 0: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/WHWx6URZknJ6
    Night 1: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/ZiWHxuV4uDC

    Idk if it's legal to quote the inbox rolecard so...
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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Arsonist View Post
    Hmm, he gave me links but somehow they doesn't open...
    Mason Chat (20 Years Ago): https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/RBTrxYwkP8f
    Night 0: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/WHWx6URZknJ6
    Night 1: https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/ZiWHxuV4uDC

    Idk if it's legal to quote the inbox rolecard so...
    not exactly what I wanted but technically - Auckmid's rules didn't forbid posting the link
    Quote Originally Posted by rule
    Discussion about one of the game threads from the other game thread IS PERMITTED.
    And technically the past reality game is over... soooo it does fall into a grey area. Anyways, thx - thats all I needed to know. And no - you may not post your rolecard.


    Eclipse had a lot more posts - and I'm including the past and convergence posts since I do feel that they are relevant.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    All quotes are from eclipse - quote within the quotes have the author mentioned. I can't multiquote from a closed threads so I copy/pasted them all here. If anyone doesn't trust that I did it, feel free to waste your time to painstakingly verify my work. Anything in pink are my thoughts so that they are easy to find in the mess.

    Eclipse:
    Spoiler : Eclipse Past (confirmed mason) :

    Hey hey hey

    whaddup bois? Already a hardclaim on this page? My oh my

    have we entered rush hour?
    So lemmings get this right

    Damus had a sob story, a dadda who wanted to avenged his son in this time (past)

    for present, he realised he's a guilty mofo with his son's blood on his filthy wretched hand

    - to me this points to some vengeful ability

    - you hate magic now so it's cool, you're town I guess but I suspect you're selling stale donuts in the other thread where you're not the same, we'll talk more about this thre

    I like you in this present

    Ganelon, have you
    Ganelon, have you heard that Make called magic users evil now and templars evil in the other thread?

    Claiming town PR with magic is very iffy now, I have my FOS on you based on Mike's info

    Also, Mikey, I'm curious, isn't there a story for you like we had one with Damus? Just a miller who got older? No family, no nothing?

    defender of the mill? no encounters with anyone?
    Lmao Efe trolling us

    but is there a purpose to this?

    Dr Newspaper, release the news: who are them guilty bastards? and how many of them are there?
    This could be cross reality bleedage - he is already painting efe as a troll that should be ignored.

    Light, pls continue
    Damus might be scum in one reality

    also not fond of Light, he's completely different from my 1st game with him

    He seems corrupted

    These 2 are my choices for today, I need to make up my mind for which thread

    Also, what are the odds for someone to be a scumo in both realities
    what happened to this guy

    -vote Stealthbomber
    -vote Banshis


    come out, come out wherever you are
    Don't touch Kenny

    don't even touch Lawyer

    they are town

    I'll explain next day if alive

    they are my trust circle at this point

    at least in this reality I can guarantee that at least Lawyer is town

    and I'll explain NOT this day phase but D2

    as for Kenny, more explanations will come once I look over posts during night

    Town, don't screw this shit up, trust me pls

    I can guarantee for one, this past reality proves to me that Lawyer is town

    as for Kenny, details will come up

    Buenas noces
    This post is odd in any context, as town, he pretty much screams that he has TMI on Lawyer - I first thought it was scum slippin as it made no sense, but I did piece together that he was a Mason (see mike & yayap n1 chat for that evolution of the read). If anything he painted a HUGE target on all 3 of them for scum. I still don't see how this post is townie - it may be him trying to get those people killed so that they vote the present reality later.

    Day 2

    Stale hard donuts, that's what you've been selling, Damus!

    What about your son? How you wanna take vengeance on him in this past reality? You know already you killed him yourself, your target is wrong because it was explained by you in present that you're the one with your son's blood on your hands, not Ganelon!

    And then that cutesy tone, this is vile
    Btw, is Ganelon also called Maggaroth?


    I've seen MM used Mag and other variations to address him
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon
    Only scum would follow an executioner
    This! How is Damus trustworthy? Executioner is a neutral role that wins by itself.

    No town winning with him, IT'S ALL ABOUT HIM, he wants to be an INDEPENDENT WINNER

    yes, Damus will be sole winner if he gets his exe target


    Also, I'm NOT VOTING for Ganelon in this reality, he's my solid town together with Mikey


    Once again, drill this in your heads, EXEs are neutral, of course he would say town lynch with me, I win with you to trick us. Like, no

    we need to find SCUM, if we can't do it today, lynching Exe is still okay
    Ganelon and Mike being solid town read... why? Ganelon maybe because he is scumreading Damus and damus was going after him, but why town read mike in the past?
    Quote Originally Posted by damus
    Please reread the thread because there is a soft claim that points at Ganelon being scum
    do you rememember which page? I have a post on him in the other thread where he's desperate to keep himself alive in this past day because of his TPR claim

    anyhow, I think this is scum, even D1 I suspected him a bit

    -vote Bahkieh
    Quote Originally Posted by Damus
    Also lol what is this tone shift eclipse??
    just like your shoujo tone
    Quote Originally Posted by Damus
    Why bahkieh > Ganelon
    Are you eliminated from the game if you get your target lynched?
    Also pls answer this: was your entire father/son story BS?

    I want to find scum in this reality, I think pandering to an exe is a waste of time, I need proof that Ganelon is scum, what if he's town?

    we spend time listening to a neutral and we end up killing one of our own!

    I'm only voting Ganelon if that anon person will point it to me
    Quote Originally Posted by Damus
    Why bahkieh > Ganelon
    Ganelon - interested in the game, interacting, wanting to solve

    bahkieh - rare pop-ins, in the background, wasn't curious over anyone D1, but today suddenly he's so interested in killing Ganelon

    if people listen and kill Ganelon and if he flips town (we'll find out after converging), Bahkieh is outted scum imo
    Quote Originally Posted by Damus
    Think about it eclipse
    I've also asked Ganelon early D1 to explain how he's town magic kp

    since Magic are evil this past according to Mikey


    Also Ganelon was very shy when he was faced with your attack

    For a town PR to not fight back it's a bit suspicious, I need more opinions, I just don't wanna lynch town and being tricked by a neutral.

    Cause let's face it, as a neutral, you want to survive and convince the masses,

    I honestly think you will remain a neutral afterwards
    Do we have a tool for ISOs? how do I get to look over someone's entire posts in this game?
    I too highly miss this tool - I have all your posts open in all separate windows so I don't just see the preview.
    you're a neutral, I wanna catch the filthy trio, ze mighty scum team whoever they are

    Now, for this 'years ago' reality I have SOLID towns in Lawyer, Ganelon/Mikey

    - you say Ganelon is scum, I'll keep him in a separate pocket until I hear him speak more


    So it's me/ you as neutral/Lawyer/Mikey/

    even MM is a solid town for me, in this reality I can narrow it better

    the poe that I have can lynch scum, bahkieh is a candidate, guy that replaced stealthbomber is one as well, I'm scared of LIGHT in this reality

    there's many possibilities
    What happened to Kenny? Why isn't Kenny in your town core as he was late d1? Kenny didn't change at all imo - also, again heavy town read on mike for no real reason (Mike only claimed architect in present so his past role is still null)
    yes

    Ganelon you gotta open your mouth wide and fight this over with Damus

    I need Mikey on board
    Donno why he specifically needs Mike and not anyone else
    also yayap made the entire scumteam afraid with his bravado

    we'll wait for others to give in their thoughts

    peace
    Can't wait to read the scum chats, I expect to see something on this topic in there.
    Light, you mentioned in your previous role that someone had a crush on you. do you think this is any way related to your present where you were killed?
    And I find it funny how Light has been given a evildoer slayer of some sort

    he was hired, to me it points to some warrior type. anyway, I won't speculate, he was killed while in retirement


    but when he was young, like right in this thread, Light is past meaning a young mercenary of some sort, he wasn't deemed dangerous
    Look
    Quote Originally Posted by Yagami
    Who Said I Was Messing With Mike... This Guy You Call Mike Seems Ta Have A Hard On For Me..
    Quote Originally Posted by Yagami
    Also, Yes Eclipse Has Peaked My Interest..
    oh so trying to figure things out, to solve is suspicious! I guess staying in the background is much safer seeing how those get to have a smooth ride

    see you later then, much much later then
    It would appear that Yagami may have been onto something - the cross reality bleeding may have hit his scum radar and just messed up which reality Eclipse was scum in. Too bad that Yagami couldn't kill dual reality.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yagami
    Do You Read The Context Or Are You Just Looking At What I Said?
    you were killed when you were retired? why?
    I really don't see the point of this post since Yagami probably has no idea why he was killed in present other than he hinted he was vig in past - maybe scum present thought he was same role in present
    Still having confidence in Mikey
    why?
    Damus - neutral
    Kenny ? town in 1 reality
    Stealthbomber - ?
    The Lawyer - town
    Bahkieh - scum candidate
    Efekannn02 - doctor Efe
    Yayap - overall scary, not sure if town/scum
    Mike - town
    Ganelon - town
    Banshis - ?
    Light_Yagami - town
    Eclipse - town
    Marshmallow - town
    Pushes the Efe is doc narative much more than I would have given Efe credit for, I also saw journalist/architect and even mayor hints from Efes posts. This may be another instance of Efe having claimed his role in scum chat that he was a doc in past and Eclipse trusts that over any other hint.
    Kenny is now town in only 1 reality... why? what did he do in either reality that was scummy for him not to be town in both?
    his read on me... lol, overall I AM scary if you are scum - if you are town, then you can read all the reasoning I provide with my reads and reason on it yourself. As long as you are logical and provide arguments (not just omgus when I start questioning you [mike]), I'm willing to listen. Make a misplay and you'll hit my scum radar and I will question you for it (like ganelon and slaol unvoting Efe d3).
    Also - I find it curious that he has MM as town in past at this point.


    what does bussed mean?

    Yepyap and Ganelon were bussed
    yes I'm fine with Banshis as suspect

    I wonder if we have freedom fighters in 1 realities and magician group in the other, I wonder if it's 2 or 3

    it seems confusing and nothing has been revealed, I wanna be alive for D3
    what does that bus driver do?

    this site has the weirdest mafia roles in the universe
    I can prove myself in this reality for any doubters

    for the other reality, you just have to trust me

    so nobody should be concerned with me..for now
    more mason hinting, why should we be concerned with you later? odd....

    Was surprised that you were killed in the other reality

    over Mikey, over Damus, over the talkative ones, I couldn't understand why
    Quote Originally Posted by Yagami
    Are You Saying You Know What The Mafia Roles Are?
    mafia the game, not mafia the evil team

    I've looked and it seems driver is a role switcher!
    old and wise with magic

    right, Ganelon?
    Damus, you suspect Ganelon but the present tells us that it was YOU who killed him (your son)

    you already know Ganelon is not the person that killed him
    This is so twisted it messes up everything
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon
    no magic
    why do you say this now?

    when earlier on this thread you were all
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon
    Also, boys and girls, I hardclaim Town Magic User.

    I refused to follow my magical peers into rebellion.

    And I have access to an interesting night ability...
    won't be voting for Ganelon

    he has been caught with making false statements regarding magic, but then Damus also was fake D1

    so No, right now I'm NOT willing to vote Ganelon

    also because of mechanic, there's no way for an exe to have a target on a mafia

    I'm town, I'm not interested in lynching a town (Ganelon) just to get another town (Damus)

    are we playing footsie or what?

    SHOULDN'T WE BE LYNCHING SCUM? I'm talking to townfolk, like Damus can stay in his own special non-alignment category, moreover if he gets on mafia side, might as well vote him after all

    WHO GUARANTEES THAT DAMUS BECOMES TOWN after his target? Like NO,

    vote PEOPLE that are scummy, that are potentially evil
    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap
    Don't have time right now, heading to work but I'd like to know who has rarely played on this site and doesn't know this sites terminology for role names and actions. I'll give you a rundown when I get home around midnight.
    moi
    well it was obvious Light commented that he had a killing role

    why did you holster? We had no kill
    Light Yagami for president

    Kira taking over the world!!!!!!!!!
    Not trusting Mikey that much, from a town POV he shouldn't have listened to the exe

    the fact that he really wanted to follow a neutral is quite telling

    Secure town fortress:
    Lawyer
    Efekannn (sheeping Light)
    Aayap
    Ganelon
    Light
    MM
    Kenny


    Townish...pulled by hair like I'm not sure
    Mikey

    Who are these people?
    Stealthbomb
    Bahkieh
    Banshis
    More buddying of Efe and even provides a reason to reinforce that buddying, finally relinquishes his buddying of Mike

    Kenny's mind!

    I never would have thought of a blackmail, this makes perfect sense!

    Don't vote for Ganelon!
    an Earthquake is about to happen...
    Thanks for that mention and exposition of all SC2mafia roles, will definitely look into it more in detail

    I just came on thread and saw Kenny? having me as part of a team. What is up with that ?
    Because it's obvious for us that you were teamed with lawyer - town reading him for no reason with his super low post count
    Okay someone quote to me and answer THIS asap: is bus driver scum/neutral/town?
    Also I know who's bus driver

    winkeu winkeu cause I can't load that emote
    I wonder, did present day scum know MM was bus driver before he was lynched? Consigilere check him maybe?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike
    I am so conflicted. But I will say I trust Yayap over everyone here.
    Moi aussi. Mikey, you've been demoted to a lesser town, a simple miller because you've left yourself seduced by Damus

    He was also pushing me to vote Ganelon, I wavered a bit but I withstood him in the end.

    Hip Hip Hooray. My vote is on the right suspect I think

    Yapyap is my main town and he's also leading in the right direction from what I've noticed

    It feels that there are only a few towns in this 'past'.
    Well that didn't take long, buddying Mike again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike
    Bahkieh who do you suspect? and who do you want to follow? What about the Lawyer he is also a good suspect to follow.
    don't touch The Lawyer. I mean it!
    ??? can you paint a bigger target on him plz, I don't think scum heard you. And why would you be worried about a detective claim following lawyer to nowhere? (although I don't think bahkieh had confirmed that he could only follow people in the past at this point so why wouldn't he want lawyer followed?)
    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol
    but why tho
    can't say right now without revealing important info
    as if it wasn't obvious already (dammit Yagami, how did you miss all these hints)
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon
    Also, explain to me the logic of pretending to be blackmailed executioner to lynch your scum mate. That’s stupid.
    Never heard of a scum member to come with such a complex plan. This is some twisted shit right there
    It's what went through my head soo...
    Quote Originally Posted by Yagami
    I Was Yes Recruited By The Templars.. Per My RP Card.. However, It Wasnt Enough.. To Lead Me To Believe There Are Masons.. If There Are Masons.. Then Odds Are There Is A Cult.. I Was Highered Because, Im Skilled At Hunting Witches/Mages If You Wanna That Route..
    you're a wizard, Harry.
    seriously Yagami, the mason is right in front of you!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap
    You do realize that both of them asked what a bus driver does, no one explained it. I said I would when I get on... a whole bunch of time by while I'm at work, still no one explains bus driver, I get on and do as I said I would. It was an out of game post that I judge I could have sent by PM and not break any rules but also thought it would be prudent not to.

    What is your point by calling me out on it?
    He's right. MM, his post on roles was a request from us who are new to SC2


    Spoiler : Eclipse Present - pre convergence :


    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Haven't looked at previous pages, I wanna set my foot in the thread

    Hi, I'm town and I think that's amazing, free from worry and suspicion
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Effenn, could you pls offer more details about your story

    newspaper then and newspaper now right?

    Now you love and appreciate the magicians

    Stealth feels somewhat of an amnesiac role
    first order of business, engage in conversation with your daily troll to paint him more townie. And he expects Efe to answer him and not continue trolling???
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    The realities are confusing af for me

    Thankfully, I'm town in both

    ahahahahahhahhahahhahahahhaha
    ???
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Kenny is inquisitive

    /me likey very much

    Marshmallow is secretive and it points me to 'why'

    There's nobody that looks great because it's too early, because they might not tell ze truth

    patience, pagadan, patience will triumph
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Came back because I'm curious and something bugs me about Mikey's story

    How did he got to have abilities in present day? From a simple mill town guy to now being bold enough to ask all scum to jump on him at night

    I think there's more to the story, you don't get to transform into a might brave PR without something happening in-between

    Either you got a special visitor that did some hocus-pocus or an ability was bestowed upon you by someone or something
    already setting up for a RP related stuff with mike: something Mike made sure to do in werewolf ball was to make a plan to link all their RPs together. And Mike made it sounds like his RP was SUPER important again, not knowing how insignificant it actually was.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    choo choo

    what a nice sound the train will do
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Damus, he feels somewhat evasive, not sure on which thread someone asked him about his role

    and he got mega upset calling that person (was it Mikey?) of trying to PR hunt, then he voted for him

    I understand if Marshmallow wants to be mysterious, but that overreaction wasn't okay imo

    Also Damus what's up with your ava? Are you trying to become unlynchable? How will I ever vote for you with that cute ava? Not fair
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Marshmallow is the subject
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    How did you get that from my post? Quote it for me where I say you accuse people of PR hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    You asked me about Marshammlow

    I reply Demus, he feels

    it's about HIM, the subject, Marshammallow, that's why there's a ',' there cause I address you to talk about your request, Marsha
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    @MM, can you pls give me some nicks to use for you?

    Marshmallow feels too long Mallo? Mar?

    tell me whichever you prefer
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Man, so Light came into town years ago, entered a tavern

    and he came in this thread 'yawning'...some bar girl spiked his drink! something happened

    also it looks as if he was forced to stay and fight with a team since he's fed up of this town

    Also Ganelon, why are you so shocked in this present time? You were Town Magic PP years ago

    did something happen?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Everything feels confusing, we need to connect the dots in order to find out the truth

    All details are important
    More RP related hunting
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    No Mikey changed his story

    he's a freaky architect now, I guess that's better than just being miller and sitting around

    Think his ability is proven, N1 he chooses someone and that we all agree on and then that person will confirm Mikey's purity

    I'm fine with totally accepting him TODAY in both realities
    and just like that "poof" Mike is 100% town in BOTH realities in Eclipse' mind. Also - notice that word "confirm", again I'll bring up the argument, how does confirming architect = confirmed town?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    you took the question right out of my mouth

    Not recognising this uncertainty

    Damus, is there something wrong?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Kenny is way too pure this reality

    I'm not touching him
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    you're a newspaper, Efe

    It contains juicy gossip, fake news and some informative content

    there's value in there
    I wonder if scum were pre-preemptively setting up a journalist claim for Efe if town had a journalist - we would all assume Efe was it if there was an article d2 and the real journalist would most likely not have been trusted if he claimed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Quick feels, will update myself later

    This is based on skim, interaction and a bit of sniff

    A bit creepy

    Damus
    Efe

    Coolio group:

    Kenny
    Light

    Dunno:

    Stealth
    Ganelon

    [Redacter]:

    Lawyer

    No feels whatsoever


    Bahkieh
    Banshis


    Bravado:

    MM
    Yap

    Town (for now):

    Mike
    "redacter": intentional cross reality bleed

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Mike offers strong townie vibes, he's transparent, open and willing to collaborate, cooperate and be used as a tool for town

    Nobody so far has had this sort of desire to show themselves as Mikey did

    I'm vetoing any votes on him

    Rest will be sorted when I look over previous posts again, there's a lot of details to take in, most of players have told their stories, there wasn't anything concrete that would point to a scummy player

    Beware those in creepy group and those in bravado, I'm slightly thinking there's at least 1 scumbo in these 2 groups
    By far scummy post - Mike was confusing, changed his claim mid day for no reason and we had no reason to trust his new claim, also I still hold that a mafia could easily claim architect and just say he invited his scum buddy who would confirms him. Eclipse should not have this town view on Mike with no other information AND the fact that I was very active and giving strong arguments openly why Mike couldn't be trusted. He ignores all of my arguments against mike to have this read and doesn't address any of them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    someone pls tell me how to vote

    I forgot

    -vote Kenny
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    -unvote


    ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    okay I think that's it

    I got this
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Damus

    you didn't answer mine and Ganelon's question: why do you roleplay? If it's something that you can't talk about, fair enough

    but it's very unusual to see it

    Also I forgot my thought regarding this person
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    if Mikey wants to take me to a chat N1, I'm all for it

    all for proving him town

    because I seriously doubt one player has scum chat and also the ability to create a different chat. I haven't heard of it.


    Mikey's story proves me to his loyalty to town
    Hey look! The exact situation that I foresaw is the plan you proposed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Ganelon asked a mod a very telling question

    -vote Ganelon


    you don't need to throw, we'll just vote you if you want
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    So if you look at my recent post, in the other thread, you see me pumped up for Lawyer and Kenny


    I'm no longer trusting them in this reality, but please don't lynch Lawyer, I need this night to find this out, I need this night in this present reality to find out if Lawyer is still town

    Please do not touch either one of them

    Not sure on Kenny, he's been fine I gues

    just trust me and call me for interrogation tomorrow


    protect my ass also if you have a spare doc ability or something, I need to verify people

    thank you and goodnight
    This is why I asked for the mason chat: Eclipse NEVER followed up on this in the chat. He NEVER interrogated Lawyer, never asked for his role in present, never asked for reads in separate realities. Also - he is dropping his town read on Kenny??? Why? Kenny was probably the only other person asking the right questions day 1.


    Day 2


    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Poor Light. I was curious in hearing more of his his story.

    From what I managed to remember, he was hired with a hefty sum to come on a horse from far away to hunt evildoers (a variety of them), then he entered a tavern, had meals and drinks and remained in town for years to come

    Thing is, he was in retirement this present day and I assume posed no threat whatsoever to anyone so I'm asking why?

    Also he seemed linked to doctor Efekannn, there was a post on a thread where it is assumed doctor Efe was the one that called him to this town and they both shared same birthday, February 28.

    Not sure if this points to a specific alignment when it comes to Efe, but it's still interesting. Light mentioned someone that had a crush on him this game, so I can speculate some sort of love that was not reciprocated, this could have also killed him.
    ?? odd post to start the day, why the link to Efe?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Damus, what is your role in present day?
    Let the obvious TPR hunting begin!
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    I will reveal my role in due time, don't force my hand if you're town

    it's normal to be wary of you after what happened in the past
    so he makes this big build up for a claim day 1 then says nothing and sweeps everything under the rug
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    understandable, have a nice day
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Not sure what to make of yeyap I think he's trying to intimidate the mafia team on both threads, he's been very loud in wanting to become a bait

    People have talked about him being a great wolf in tone so I'm relying on others.

    What do you guys think of Efekannn in this present day? I got my townread on him in the past, but I'm interested for 'now'. Is there anything to glean from Efe's posts and how many of them are to be taken seriously?
    Do I intimidate you? I have left you alone all this time, now I'm shifting my focus on you. Do you feel intimidated now that I had some time to look into you more closely? You seemed to be obsessed with Efe - considering that you ignore all the lurkers
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    why do you think there's a meaning behind it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Yayap, my town alignment can be proven thanks to Lawyer in the PAST reality

    as for now, me and him are no longer connected, I guess there's a small chance he could have become evil, we are split now so to speak
    Yes - and now that I have your night chats, I can say that nothing was said in there that would make you change your read on lawyer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Light, a hero that we didn't deserve!

    Oh Damus so you were a scumbo, after all!

    I wonder if there's 1 evi left or 2 in the past.

    there's also the possibility of a filthy witch as people have mentioned

    My towncore is strong in the years ago reality

    but I'll wait til thread opens to post there, I'm excited!
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    No
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    why did you tag me, Damus?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Where? With whom? Post those interactions. The only negative interaction I had this game was with your scummy self on the other thread where I called you out for trying to mislead town.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    People have kept their lips sealed on this thread, the action happened in the other thread

    This present day has been 'Mikey's Show' and everyone was cool with that.

    I agree with MM and yayap, we need to expand and try to broaden our horizon beyond Mikey and his mill.
    You seem determined to link players together with RPs - why?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Not sure if you're trying to troll me or what, but those posts clearly show an inquisitive flavor. I wanted to sort those players, to find more about them

    It's a state of a confused townie, I mean if that's negative, I guess we're on different page.

    Every town should voice concern over suspects, the people that don't rock the beat are mafia since they have already the entire picture and don't need to prod people except for pr hunt.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    MM refuses to place himself in a scum position because from his pov, he's town, he's not willing to do a gimmick for people to use his words against him and scumpaint him.

    It's his choice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    That seems plausible, for me MM is in a special category since I'm not sure what to make of him

    if you were to ask me what I think of him, I would say 'null'.

    He's not overly townie like Mikey and Yayap but he's not as suspicious as others. Basically I'm torn on him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    After you, Mikey, there's no one.

    Alright, I'll give you Kenny or Yapyap, they've been the one trying to solve this present day the most

    what do you think about these 2 men?
    Interesting... so his view on Kenny went from scummy to town again. And this is after I coded that I viewed Kenny as town to Mike and to invite Kenny to chat
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Choco puffs:
    Kenny
    Yayap
    Mikey


    Sour gummy:
    Damus
    Stealthbomber + his replacement
    Lawyer
    Bahkieh
    Efekannn
    Banshis

    Are these even comestible?
    MM
    Ganelon
    somehow Efe went from town to sour with no explanation of this change of view (something I find scum will do more often than town)

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Cool, I have a surprise for you, ex-professor doctor Efekannn
    And now he is calling Efe ex-doctor again


    Spoiler : Eclipse Convergence :

    SafeguardThePast
    -vote SafeguardThePast
    * burp yes it counts the vote
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon
    Could the players dead in one of the realities claim their roles please?
    do you trust claims? lmao
    Umm, giving town the most information to decipher was key to picking the right reality for towns best interests
    Shame on whoever killed me in past, if it was town, double shame cause it was your biggest mistake

    if it was scum, you're weak and coward.

    Let's make this present reality canon cause I have an announcement to make.
    Didn't you have an announcement to make day 2? AND what announcement was so important that it couldn't be shared here? You made it obvious that you were mason.

    Mikey, are you playing footsie with us?

    pick your fave reality, as a scum you will certainly win this since nobody suspects you

    I won't wrestle for the 'present' I've spent enough time in this game

    Since I wasn't killed by mafia in past I wanna encourage them to win in past. Get it, boys! Get that win, whoever you are
    Correction: "no one suspects Mike except moi, your biggest threat now holding a gun"
    yeah I plan to never quote him in a game just to be safe
    Quote Originally Posted by Yagami
    I Wanted To See What Kind Of Reactions I Got Out Of The Claim Of A Dual Reality Kill Claim..
    Lynch all liars!
    ???
    This could be all due to Light's quirkiness

    it makes no sense, there was no scum motivation behind me doing this, yet he warned me, I didn't think he was serious

    Last game he also told the thread that he scumpaints anyone messing with his quotes
    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap in the post before(quote is not in original post)
    @Eclipse do you want to confirm arsonist is a mason in past? And can Masons recruit/have other roles?
    Nothing to be confirmed, I never talked with this person

    All things will be revealed D3
    keeping vital information away noted - if masons could recruit then the past would have been more attractive to me since I was a cit
    Stricly choosing present since it's the only reality where I'm alive

    I've mentioned how I'm okay with people preferring the past, I've been part of this game for more than a week, I had my experience.
    Yes, obviously you prefer present





    Spoiler : Eclipse Present - post convergence :

    Day 3



    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    my jaw dropped when I saw Damus alignment

    all in all, I wanna hear what Effe has to say
    I made it clear during convergence that Damus was gunsmith - why are you soo surprised? And here we go again, "Efe, we need to talk more"
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    which reality you didn't care to live? I remember you being mellow and not fighting hard when people pushed you. Was it in present?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    He shocked me so much with his push on Ganelon, it was such weird thing to behold

    Anyway, Lawyer was mason with me. I never talked with his replacement

    Me and Lawyer are NO LONGER acquaintances in this reality

    will have to look at previous pages, I have things in my head intermingled with the other reality
    what a HUGE reveal of an announcement /sarcasm

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    This! Let's all relax a bit and think things thorough, I think most of us are bamboozled because of having to deal with 2 realities

    So efekann was a scum-a-tron in the past

    I know that Lawyer was mason, but there has been a rupture of some sort for this present and since I'm town for both realities, I really don't think it's the same for him.

    So FOS the guy who replaced Lawyer

    Slaol was mafia in past? Stealthbomb was iffy numerous times

    Ganelon seem town based on his past reveal, but all in all, he says he's simple now no abilities, might as well be just a goon
    FOS the guy who replaced Lawyer for what reason? just because he was town in past?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    No, frick!

    I wanted to quote Ganelon when he posted that thing where we should all stop dramatising and calling someone toxic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    So if Mikey is town he confirmed Kenny then

    if Mikey is scum, I really think Kenny is still town because it's a bit weird to ask a partner for a different chat.

    Regardless of Mikey's alignment, Kenny is town

    Him and GAnelon. Although with his flip, I worry that Ganelon is a goon
    You seem focused on trying to shift the discussion onto Ganelon instead of me vs Mike
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Bahkieh and Banshsis have remained in the background for both realities

    any reason to that? are these players more reserved with words?
    No votes, defended Efe, avoided saying anything when Efe train started since he would have to "obviously defend Efe"

    Day 4



    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    feeling sick, I ate too much at McDonalds

    Mike vs Yayap

    what's your final opinion of Ganelon, Mikey?
    what about Efe? the one both Kenny, myself were on before end of day - not to mention Mike and Slaol as well as Ganelon at some point
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    my main suspect is my ex-mason

    as for Mikey vs Yayap I have no clue which one will be a scum

    Mikey's emotional outburst felt incredible real, he's been consistent with his role

    but then Slaol stated that Mikey threatens in every game so shrug
    Sure... I'm sure thats what you think /sarcasm
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Sheeping Kenny, he feels smarter than both yayap and Mikey

    honestly I have no clue at this point

    I guess Yayap coming up claiming Sheriff is believable

    who are the clears, yayap?
    I guess he hasn't even been reading my posts - I made it clear that I was roleblocked every night so in short: not you
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Banshis/Glip is a mystery

    anyone have opinions?

    Mike vs Yayap is the weirdest thing in this game

    then there's Kenny, Ganelon, Effe and my ex-mason
    Mike vs Yayap isn't weird at all, you would just like to make it seem complicated so that it won't look bad that you still side with Mike
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    I haven't caught to make a proper vote!

    could just leave one based on how I feel

    -vote Arsonist
    but I'm not feeling many will be on board

    what I wanna is what happened with him after our 'link'?

    something feels off and that's my main suspicion given that we could clear each other before, but not anymore
    By far the most wasted vote ever - if you were town, considering that this is most likely lylo day, this would be throwing the game away with 0 chance of town winning. And you still don't provide any reasoning for this vote. You ignore 2 major issues (vs Mike and vs Efe)
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    So you know already that me and Lawyer were masons and could townclear each in past

    Both for this present, I have him LEAVING me as flavor for some reason

    Both were of us were fishermen in the past

    Now I'm citizen and being promoted to collecting taxes while he is ???

    My worry is that he became as scum given that I'm town in both realities.
    So basically, you are RP claiming to promote yourself as town - useless in my books, the vote trains tell a much more damning story for you

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    Not Kenny scolding me about my vote when he's not even voting anyone!

    :ohmy:
    Kenny is online at eod, so I don't worry about his votes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    wot?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipse View Post
    ? I'm not a mason anymore

    if he's mason, he's telling porkies or maybe he's mason with someone else?

    someone confirm for Asonist, if you're his partner come out

    I HARDCLAIM NOT ASO'S mason, I'm citizen this present


    Summary: Eclipse is scum.
    -vote Eclipse


    I think both Kenny and I can agree on Eclipse once he reads all that.. I'll shoot Mike since there is a higher chance of lynching the consort that has been blocking me if I don't try to lynch Mike.
    @Kenny @Arsonist @Glip @Ganelon

    Have fun Eclipse, you are now in my crosshairs.

  28. ISO #978

  29. ISO #979

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    All quotes are from eclipse - quote within the quotes have the author mentioned. I can't multiquote from a closed threads so I copy/pasted them all here. If anyone doesn't trust that I did it, feel free to waste your time to painstakingly verify my work. Anything in pink are my thoughts so that they are easy to find in the mess.

    Eclipse:
    Spoiler : Eclipse Past (confirmed mason) :





    This could be cross reality bleedage - he is already painting efe as a troll that should be ignored.






    This post is odd in any context, as town, he pretty much screams that he has TMI on Lawyer - I first thought it was scum slippin as it made no sense, but I did piece together that he was a Mason (see mike & yayap n1 chat for that evolution of the read). If anything he painted a HUGE target on all 3 of them for scum. I still don't see how this post is townie - it may be him trying to get those people killed so that they vote the present reality later.

    Day 2




    Ganelon and Mike being solid town read... why? Ganelon maybe because he is scumreading Damus and damus was going after him, but why town read mike in the past?







    I too highly miss this tool - I have all your posts open in all separate windows so I don't just see the preview.

    What happened to Kenny? Why isn't Kenny in your town core as he was late d1? Kenny didn't change at all imo - also, again heavy town read on mike for no real reason (Mike only claimed architect in present so his past role is still null)

    Donno why he specifically needs Mike and not anyone else

    Can't wait to read the scum chats, I expect to see something on this topic in there.




    It would appear that Yagami may have been onto something - the cross reality bleeding may have hit his scum radar and just messed up which reality Eclipse was scum in. Too bad that Yagami couldn't kill dual reality.

    I really don't see the point of this post since Yagami probably has no idea why he was killed in present other than he hinted he was vig in past - maybe scum present thought he was same role in present

    why?

    Pushes the Efe is doc narative much more than I would have given Efe credit for, I also saw journalist/architect and even mayor hints from Efes posts. This may be another instance of Efe having claimed his role in scum chat that he was a doc in past and Eclipse trusts that over any other hint.
    Kenny is now town in only 1 reality... why? what did he do in either reality that was scummy for him not to be town in both?
    his read on me... lol, overall I AM scary if you are scum - if you are town, then you can read all the reasoning I provide with my reads and reason on it yourself. As long as you are logical and provide arguments (not just omgus when I start questioning you [mike]), I'm willing to listen. Make a misplay and you'll hit my scum radar and I will question you for it (like ganelon and slaol unvoting Efe d3).
    Also - I find it curious that he has MM as town in past at this point.






    more mason hinting, why should we be concerned with you later? odd....













    More buddying of Efe and even provides a reason to reinforce that buddying, finally relinquishes his buddying of Mike




    Because it's obvious for us that you were teamed with lawyer - town reading him for no reason with his super low post count


    I wonder, did present day scum know MM was bus driver before he was lynched? Consigilere check him maybe?

    Well that didn't take long, buddying Mike again.


    ??? can you paint a bigger target on him plz, I don't think scum heard you. And why would you be worried about a detective claim following lawyer to nowhere? (although I don't think bahkieh had confirmed that he could only follow people in the past at this point so why wouldn't he want lawyer followed?)

    as if it wasn't obvious already (dammit Yagami, how did you miss all these hints)

    It's what went through my head soo...

    seriously Yagami, the mason is right in front of you!!




    Spoiler : Eclipse Present - pre convergence :





    first order of business, engage in conversation with your daily troll to paint him more townie. And he expects Efe to answer him and not continue trolling???

    ???



    already setting up for a RP related stuff with mike: something Mike made sure to do in werewolf ball was to make a plan to link all their RPs together. And Mike made it sounds like his RP was SUPER important again, not knowing how insignificant it actually was.















    More RP related hunting

    and just like that "poof" Mike is 100% town in BOTH realities in Eclipse' mind. Also - notice that word "confirm", again I'll bring up the argument, how does confirming architect = confirmed town?






    I wonder if scum were pre-preemptively setting up a journalist claim for Efe if town had a journalist - we would all assume Efe was it if there was an article d2 and the real journalist would most likely not have been trusted if he claimed.


    "redacter": intentional cross reality bleed


    By far scummy post - Mike was confusing, changed his claim mid day for no reason and we had no reason to trust his new claim, also I still hold that a mafia could easily claim architect and just say he invited his scum buddy who would confirms him. Eclipse should not have this town view on Mike with no other information AND the fact that I was very active and giving strong arguments openly why Mike couldn't be trusted. He ignores all of my arguments against mike to have this read and doesn't address any of them.










    Hey look! The exact situation that I foresaw is the plan you proposed.




    This is why I asked for the mason chat: Eclipse NEVER followed up on this in the chat. He NEVER interrogated Lawyer, never asked for his role in present, never asked for reads in separate realities. Also - he is dropping his town read on Kenny??? Why? Kenny was probably the only other person asking the right questions day 1.


    Day 2



    ?? odd post to start the day, why the link to Efe?

    Let the obvious TPR hunting begin!

    so he makes this big build up for a claim day 1 then says nothing and sweeps everything under the rug



    Do I intimidate you? I have left you alone all this time, now I'm shifting my focus on you. Do you feel intimidated now that I had some time to look into you more closely? You seemed to be obsessed with Efe - considering that you ignore all the lurkers





    Yes - and now that I have your night chats, I can say that nothing was said in there that would make you change your read on lawyer.










    You seem determined to link players together with RPs - why?







    Interesting... so his view on Kenny went from scummy to town again. And this is after I coded that I viewed Kenny as town to Mike and to invite Kenny to chat


    somehow Efe went from town to sour with no explanation of this change of view (something I find scum will do more often than town)


    And now he is calling Efe ex-doctor again


    Spoiler : Eclipse Convergence :





    Umm, giving town the most information to decipher was key to picking the right reality for towns best interests

    Didn't you have an announcement to make day 2? AND what announcement was so important that it couldn't be shared here? You made it obvious that you were mason.


    Correction: "no one suspects Mike except moi, your biggest threat now holding a gun"


    ???


    keeping vital information away noted - if masons could recruit then the past would have been more attractive to me since I was a cit

    Yes, obviously you prefer present





    Spoiler : Eclipse Present - post convergence :

    Day 3




    I made it clear during convergence that Damus was gunsmith - why are you soo surprised? And here we go again, "Efe, we need to talk more"



    what a HUGE reveal of an announcement /sarcasm



    FOS the guy who replaced Lawyer for what reason? just because he was town in past?




    You seem focused on trying to shift the discussion onto Ganelon instead of me vs Mike

    No votes, defended Efe, avoided saying anything when Efe train started since he would have to "obviously defend Efe"

    Day 4




    what about Efe? the one both Kenny, myself were on before end of day - not to mention Mike and Slaol as well as Ganelon at some point

    Sure... I'm sure thats what you think /sarcasm

    I guess he hasn't even been reading my posts - I made it clear that I was roleblocked every night so in short: not you

    Mike vs Yayap isn't weird at all, you would just like to make it seem complicated so that it won't look bad that you still side with Mike

    By far the most wasted vote ever - if you were town, considering that this is most likely lylo day, this would be throwing the game away with 0 chance of town winning. And you still don't provide any reasoning for this vote. You ignore 2 major issues (vs Mike and vs Efe)

    So basically, you are RP claiming to promote yourself as town - useless in my books, the vote trains tell a much more damning story for you


    Kenny is online at eod, so I don't worry about his votes.






    Summary: Eclipse is scum.
    -vote Eclipse


    I think both Kenny and I can agree on Eclipse once he reads all that.. I'll shoot Mike since there is a higher chance of lynching the consort that has been blocking me if I don't try to lynch Mike.
    @Kenny @Arsonist @Glip @Ganelon

    Have fun Eclipse, you are now in my crosshairs.
    Lol this is all based on that I am 100% confirmed mafia. And that is 100% am incorrect. From my POV you have to be Mafia becuse all you do is scum paint me even day1. Then when I took you into night chat. You changed your tune. My only vote is yayap. And now am suspecting Kenny how much he is defending yayap.

    Town please don’t fall for the BS yayap is dishing out. He is pushing for a mislynch notice they have pushed for anyone but mafia.

  30. ISO #980

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Lol this is all based on that I am 100% confirmed mafia. And that is 100% am incorrect. From my POV you have to be Mafia becuse all you do is scum paint me even day1. Then when I took you into night chat. You changed your tune. My only vote is yayap. And now am suspecting Kenny how much he is defending yayap.

    Town please don’t fall for the BS yayap is dishing out. He is pushing for a mislynch notice they have pushed for anyone but mafia.
    Wait, to make sure I am not tunneling. Yayap are you saying this is based on the fact he is my scum partner??. In other words he is scum. Because he town reads me. So in turn he has to be scum??? Is this your basis. @Yayap
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
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    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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  31. ISO #981

  32. ISO #982

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    no shame in townreading Mike since the beginning

    yes I had a tinfoil cause you were trying to scumpaint him, but you have be OUT of your spaceship to think that Mikey is scum with me

    or that Mikey is scum with anyone else

    scum have their own chat, right? where have you heard of a scum socialite that can bring people in chats? He was transparent and posted everything that happened in that chat

    as scum he could have taken his partners and invent some mambo jumbo

    at this point, I'm doubting your intentions, Yayap

  33. ISO #983

  34. ISO #984

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    is Ganelon still alive? I feel out of touch with this game so much

    I wouldn't care if I'm mislynched if us town had MORE chances but it's game over if I'm being voted

    Kenny, Mikey, it's up to you to find out who are scum

    tag me when you need a vote, I can't stay on too long

  35. ISO #985

  36. ISO #986

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    Mike ignores the efe connection and mason chat evidence. Just solidifying Mike as scum. Now, when are my town reads gonna show up?
    NO you ignore it. Eclipse has been open about the mason. stating he was not mason in present. Arson scum slipped and tried to say he was still mason. And you cover it up by pushing on the one who has been telling the truth. and protecting the one who was caught lying. Yayap dont accuse me of what you are doing. @Kenny @Glip if you are both town vote yayap.

    @Glip I still want to hear how you became a town role from being a drug dealer 20 years ago??? please explain.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
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    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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  37. ISO #987

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    @Auckmid I am going to openly anouse I am taking Eclipse into my night chat tonight. This way scum can't try any funny business in killing me at night and claiming they where in my night chat.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
    Spoiler : :
    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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  38. ISO #988

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    A well now I know yayap for a fact is mafia. He has been at L2 and no hammer. 3 mafia still alive. Town let’s vote yayap and get one mafia dead. Also elemanate mafia getting 2kp tonight.
    Do Not open this spoiler under any condition!!!!!!!
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    WHY CANT YOU FOLLOW SIMPLE DIRECTIONS?
    YOU HAVE JUST CAUSED THE END OF ALL MANKIND!!!!!!

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  39. ISO #989

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    NO you ignore it. Eclipse has been open about the mason. stating he was not mason in present. Arson scum slipped and tried to say he was still mason. And you cover it up by pushing on the one who has been telling the truth. and protecting the one who was caught lying. Yayap dont accuse me of what you are doing. @Kenny @Glip if you are both town vote yayap.

    @Glip I still want to hear how you became a town role from being a drug dealer 20 years ago??? please explain.
    I did explain. Read my previous posts pls, there aren't many :P

    How are you so certain that Yayap is mafia still? Just because he doesn't like you? You keep parroting "scum painting! scum painting! This person is trying to see scum intentions behind my actions, he must be scum!" and it just doesn't fit. Everyone would have reasons to read you as scum, and your tunnel vision and repetitive arguments are not convincing to me.

  40. ISO #990

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Wow, we have 3 mafia and the best play is to go after a confessed Neutral ????
    Mike invites Ganelon for night chat n3 - who both scum read each other = no possible scumhunting as town shouldn't tell the other anything = very useless chat other than the fact that it gave me a clear read that Ganelon is not on Mikes team = Mike is mad.
    We lynch a non town = Mike is mad.
    I find and build a case against someone other than Mike (eclipse) = Mike is mad.
    My roleclaim is not CCed and other than Mike and Eclipse going omgus, making me near confirmed sheriff = Mike still mad and focuses on me (still with no evidence to back up his arguments whinning) with his dying breaths.

    Yup - even with hardly any town discussion, I'm quite sure this game is solved. Lynch consort possibilities (Efe and Eclipse) and I shoot Mike = GG town win. Just waiting for town to come back to their keyboards now so we can vote and end this.

  41. ISO #991

  42. ISO #992

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    Mike invites Ganelon for night chat n3 - who both scum read each other = no possible scumhunting as town shouldn't tell the other anything = very useless chat other than the fact that it gave me a clear read that Ganelon is not on Mikes team = Mike is mad.
    We lynch a non town = Mike is mad.
    I find and build a case against someone other than Mike (eclipse) = Mike is mad.
    My roleclaim is not CCed and other than Mike and Eclipse going omgus, making me near confirmed sheriff = Mike still mad and focuses on me (still with no evidence to back up his arguments whinning) with his dying breaths.

    Yup - even with hardly any town discussion, I'm quite sure this game is solved. Lynch consort possibilities (Efe and Eclipse) and I shoot Mike = GG town win. Just waiting for town to come back to their keyboards now so we can vote and end this.
    I'm here, but we won't get anywhere without @Kenny @Ganelon and/or @Arsonist here to add their votes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    oh hi Glip. Did you have a little time to review my case on Eclipse?
    I skimmed through it. Was that like, every single post Eclipse made everywhere? Eclipse's blatant OMGUS, low effort posting, and flipflopping don't speak well for him; that said, I haven't seen any better performance out of Arsonist or Ganelon either, since I've subbed in. Your ISO seems to show that his playstyle has been consistent, if consistently weak, and he seems to be throwing out random "reads" with little justification. I would be fine putting my vote there, but as I've said, we won't get anywhere without the rest of the town to add their vote/opinion.

  43. ISO #993

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Glip View Post
    I'm here, but we won't get anywhere without @Kenny @Ganelon and/or @Arsonist here to add their votes.



    I skimmed through it. Was that like, every single post Eclipse made everywhere? Eclipse's blatant OMGUS, low effort posting, and flipflopping don't speak well for him; that said, I haven't seen any better performance out of Arsonist or Ganelon either, since I've subbed in. Your ISO seems to show that his playstyle has been consistent, if consistently weak, and he seems to be throwing out random "reads" with little justification. I would be fine putting my vote there, but as I've said, we won't get anywhere without the rest of the town to add their vote/opinion.
    Why would you worry about my vote at this time?

  44. ISO #994

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Yes, it's a full ISO.
    I looked into Arsonist as he was odd - but his posts don't show any defending or buddying with those I scum read so he is still null read for me.
    I didn't bother in looking into ganelon much because it's pretty much confirmed that he is not on same team as mike and Ganelon helped with Efes lynch.

    Personally, Eclipse voting Arsonist for the sole reason that Arsonist was town in past instead of any of the possible lynches is as close to claiming that he wanted a no lynch as it gets. Arsonist not voting was bad but can be afk factored. In summary, Eclipse is way more scummy than Arsonist imo for that reason... not to mention the lack of Eclipse investigating Lawyer/Arsonist in the night chat when he said he would.

  45. ISO #995

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    Yes, it's a full ISO.
    I looked into Arsonist as he was odd - but his posts don't show any defending or buddying with those I scum read so he is still null read for me.
    I didn't bother in looking into ganelon much because it's pretty much confirmed that he is not on same team as mike and Ganelon helped with Efes lynch.

    Personally, Eclipse voting Arsonist for the sole reason that Arsonist was town in past instead of any of the possible lynches is as close to claiming that he wanted a no lynch as it gets. Arsonist not voting was bad but can be afk factored. In summary, Eclipse is way more scummy than Arsonist imo for that reason... not to mention the lack of Eclipse investigating Lawyer/Arsonist in the night chat when he said he would.
    The main problem I see in your argument is that a lot of what you brought up happened in the past reality. You called it cross-reality bleed. But why would Eclipse have scum-motivations of another reality influence his town-play in any way? The mason chat was clearly a part of the other reality too. I just don't see how him not holding the promises of the other game makes him scum here.
    His interaction with arsonist here in this reaity regardless does look odd however. But considering Arsonist literally claimed to even still be mason together with him, anything else would be just as equally odd.

  46. ISO #996

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Even if you ignore the past reality part - how can you say that Eclipse voting Arsonist purely because he was town in past on a day that is lylo can be even considered townie? Eclipse made the buddying of Efe evident in both realities.

    Arsonist is literally apathetic and isn't spending any time reading this game - hasn't sorted out which reality is which and doesn't care to try. Which is pretty much what I expected from Arsonist when he replaced in no matter what role he is. Eclipse on the other hand tried to get town to lose by making a no-lynch in part 1 of d4. I'm willing to accept arsonist being a 4th scum if they are 4.. but not if there is only a 3 man team.

  47. ISO #997

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    Even if you ignore the past reality part - how can you say that Eclipse voting Arsonist purely because he was town in past on a day that is lylo can be even considered townie? Eclipse made the buddying of Efe evident in both realities.

    Arsonist is literally apathetic and isn't spending any time reading this game - hasn't sorted out which reality is which and doesn't care to try. Which is pretty much what I expected from Arsonist when he replaced in no matter what role he is. Eclipse on the other hand tried to get town to lose by making a no-lynch in part 1 of d4. I'm willing to accept arsonist being a 4th scum if they are 4.. but not if there is only a 3 man team.
    Isn't the fact that he voted Arsonist and not you or anyone who could actually get lynched proof that Eclipse bothers just as little with this as Arsonist does?

  48. ISO #998

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Arsonist didn't try to kill any discussion on me, mike or Efe. If anything he added against Efe.
    Eclipse made it clear that he was buddys with Efe and Mike early on. So his vote on Arsonist is more distraction and redirection of town focus and has much more possibility of dividing town than staying quiet. He would have been better to take a hard stance against me than go after someone no one would take the time to examine on a lylo day when there is no evidence to support it.

  49. ISO #999

    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Present Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    Arsonist didn't try to kill any discussion on me, mike or Efe. If anything he added against Efe.
    Eclipse made it clear that he was buddys with Efe and Mike early on. So his vote on Arsonist is more distraction and redirection of town focus and has much more possibility of dividing town than staying quiet. He would have been better to take a hard stance against me than go after someone no one would take the time to examine on a lylo day when there is no evidence to support it.
    Yea, exactly, what he did was the worse play. That applies to both, town-perspective and scum-perspective. He painted a target on himself, lost what some would call "town-cred" for poor play, and I definitely don't think he distracted anyone with it.
    The buddying with Efe happened in both realities, and it applies to Arsonist too. Eclipse wasn't the only one who buddied Efe.

  50. ISO #1000

 

 

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