M-FM April Fools! [Game Thread]

[Frog]

Fine, read the posts in detail where the guy said he's citizen and to lynch him because he didn't want to play this shit game. I hope you'll extrapolate some meaning in life from that gamethrower. Do you know what gamethrowing is?

Holy shit you're toxic.

[Fury]

Ok,

1) Pushing one villager lynch over another Day 1 is not clearing.

2) Read 1 again

3) Shooting a triad confirms you aren't a triad. Congratulations.

4) Shooting a triad does not confirm you a villager.

5) Read 3 again, that's all your shot confirms. Don't dress it up.

6) Lynching a Triad doesn't mean you're a villager. There is likely still mafia + 3P left.

7) Read 3 once more.

ccantman, the guy you're calling stupid who you were arguing with, was a villager.

9) I'm a villager, if you are as well I'd highly recommend you use some logic instead of personal attacks.

I see how stringent your requirements for confirmed townie are. Yet, you assign Sino a confirmed townie status as either vigilante or citizen for a logically inconsistent reason. (See my earlier post). Unless you address this, I cannot take anything you say as having value.

[Fury]

Holy shit you're toxic.

Please abstain from personal attacks.

[Fury]

Me while I wait for him to explain a logically inconsistent argument.

[Trine]

Hello everyone, just woke up and will be jumping into the discussion soon.

A few things I'd like to point out.

• I almost didn't shoot Funce last night because I expected he would be modkilled due to inactivity. But since ika was taken out at end of day yesterday and funce wasn't, I decided to do as I was told in case I was wrong.
• I received feedback that I was controlled, so I assume the Marshall or Sheriff become my target but I am not sure which as I wasn't told who my new target was. This means that there is a Witch, likely among those who claimed citizen.
• Fury was also told to shoot Funce/Frog and did not. Instead he goes off script and shoots a citizen. Is this town behavior?
• Unknown, who claimed Bodyguard, wasn't protecting the Marshall for some reason? I'm sorry but if I was BG I'd be on confirmed town.

[Fury]

Dealing with inactives really are on a case-by-case based on activity in day chat, activity in possible night chats, and any private conversations I may have had about them being active in the future. However, if someone posts literally 0 times D3, you can expect a modkill or replacement.

To address Sino, I remembered this post and how Funce had 0 posts. I honestly forgot I read the word replacement, so I thought shooting him would be a waste of a shot. Regardless, if Frog can contribute to this game, then I'm glad I shot likely scum (ccantman) over an inactive player. I remember Frog said something about this now, actually =)

I feel like the only thing Funce could have been scum read for is inactivity, and even that isn't indicative.

By Frog's logic, shooting Funce/Frog would have been a mistake.

[Frog]

Holy fuck I bothered to read your post and I'm awestruck at how utterly retarded/inconsistent your argument is. Considering I found Firebringer through this method, I'm willing to have a conversation with you. Maybe I'll find scum at the end of the tunnel.



He believes there is a vig



So, there is no benefit in fake claiming vigilante as scum. So, you believe the vig claims are not scum.



Ok, so he believes Sino did not fake claim as scum, I get it.



Ok, so he believes Sino. Said it before, but ok.



Wait what? You just said you didn't suspect Sino because there was no benefit to fake claim vig, but you think I'm fake claiming vig? Read your own argument and replace "Sino" with "Fury." Get fucked idiot.



Marshall put bodyguard on me. A bodyguard already died making sure I didn't die. I won't die as long as bodyguard is alive. Your reads are as premature as your girlfriend.

If you make another personal attack I'm quitting the game.

I see your logic, but not your questions. Stop grandstanding.

You're saying if I believe a vig claim to have no scum motivation, why wouldn't I Village read both you AND Sino?

Because you can't see that Sino's claim is never scum.

To walk you through the logic which you've missed:
Sino claims vigilante
He's either Vigilante or FPSing Citizen
If he were scum, he would have claimed the RLVG shot.
If he were scum, he'd have painted a target on his back.

That you can't see this makes me highly suspect:
1. Your alliance (tinfoiling Mafia with a Mafia roleblocked)
2. Your judgement (considering your tunnel choices)

I don't understand your logic regarding the bodyguard.

This only clears you from being a Triad.

The bodyguard already died. Why haven't you been killed if you're so 'cleared'?

[Trine]

To address Sino, I remembered this post and how Funce had 0 posts. I honestly forgot I read the word replacement, so I thought shooting him would be a waste of a shot. Regardless, if Frog can contribute to this game, then I'm glad I shot likely scum (ccantman) over an inactive player. I remember Frog said something about this now, actually =)

Or you assumed I would shoot funce and you intended to claim that shot as you murdered an innocent citizen. If you are so sure I'm lying about my claim, why not shoot me? Perhaps because it would have proved my claim?

[Fury]

@Unknown1234 , you should really come to either defend yourself or give your opinion.

[Frog]

I see how stringent your requirements for confirmed townie are. Yet, you assign Sino a confirmed townie status as either vigilante or citizen for a logically inconsistent reason. (See my earlier post). Unless you address this, I cannot take anything you say as having value.

I think I'm eating my words as I read Sino's post. Lol.

[Fury]

Or you assumed I would shoot funce and you intended to claim that shot as you murdered an innocent citizen. If you are so sure I'm lying about my claim, why not shoot me? Perhaps because it would have proved my claim?

What? No, I thought I'd let you shoot funce to prove yourself. I shot ccantman because I thought I was confirmed enough town and could scum hunt. I said I'd be shooting the next 2 nights because I expected to die either last night(If unknown wasn't BG) or this night(if unknown was BG). 2 nights to live, 2 shots. I thought it'd be best to use them before town lost too much voting power.

[Fury]

I think I'm eating my words as I read Sino's post. Lol.

You acknowledging this assuages a suspicion that you and him are scum teamed.

[Frog]

Hello everyone, just woke up and will be jumping into the discussion soon.

A few things I'd like to point out.

• I almost didn't shoot Funce last night because I expected he would be modkilled due to inactivity. But since ika was taken out at end of day yesterday and funce wasn't, I decided to do as I was told in case I was wrong.
• I received feedback that I was controlled, so I assume the Marshall or Sheriff become my target but I am not sure which as I wasn't told who my new target was. This means that there is a Witch, likely among those who claimed citizen.
• Fury was also told to shoot Funce/Frog and did not. Instead he goes off script and shoots a citizen. Is this town behavior?
• Unknown, who claimed Bodyguard, wasn't protecting the Marshall for some reason? I'm sorry but if I was BG I'd be on confirmed town.

If you're scum this a very bizarre line to take.

Has anyone this game received 'controlled' feedback?

Why wouldn't Fury have been controlled instead?

He's claiming he had a 'bodyguard' in him.

[Fury]

Unknown claimed BG, so if I died last night, then Unknown isn't BG (Marshall told Unknown to guard me). I fully expected Unknown to die if BG. Since he didn't die and I wasn't attacked, it really makes me wonder why scum didn't kill BG or (more likely) that he isn't BG.

[Fury]

He's claiming he had a 'bodyguard' in him.

I mean, Unknown claimed yesterday and marshall said it. I even said at the time I didn't believe Unknown. I can quote it if you want.

[Frog]

You acknowledging this assuages a suspicion that you and him are scum teamed.

Glad to hear it.

We can probably double team this game by end of today.

Just ask that you cool it with the insults.

More puppy gifs, less "retard/gamethrowing/etc".

[Trine]

The bodyguard already died. Why haven't you been killed if you're so 'cleared'?

Unknown1234 also claimed bodyguard.

[Frog]

I still find it kind of funny with 2 vig claims that you didn't shoot each other to resolve it but we're here now.

[Fury]

Glad to hear it.

We can probably double team this game by end of today.

Just ask that you cool it with the insults.

More puppy gifs, less "retard/gamethrowing/etc".

I only insult whenever I see someone who is clearly very skilled (such as yourself) doing something irrational. I do apologize, but I also had a scum lean on you for quickly and irrationally defending Sino and I was salty I didn't shoot you at the time. I basically thought I saved a scum at the cost of a citizen.... Anyways, let's move on from that.

[Trine]

If you're scum this a very bizarre line to take.

Has anyone this game received 'controlled' feedback?

Why wouldn't Fury have been controlled instead?

He's claiming he had a 'bodyguard' in him.

Yeah I realize this isn't the easiest story to believe considering that no one else has reported witch feedback yet, but considering that so many players have been inactive or barely participating I believe either the witch controlled players who never bothered to report it or else has been laying low and waiting for TPRs to reveal.

Hell if I was scum I'm sure I could come with a better excuse than this lol

[Fury]

I still find it kind of funny with 2 vig claims that you didn't shoot each other to resolve it but we're here now.

I think I remember us talking about that yesterday, but it got brushed aside as a bad idea. No one wanted him to shoot me, but there was some talk of me shooting him. Maybe I should have.

[Frog]

I mean, Unknown claimed yesterday and marshall said it. I even said at the time I didn't believe Unknown. I can quote it if you want.

NBD - that's just an unbelievable claim to begin with one flipped BG already.

Then again 2 day vigs. Lmfao.

I think I'm just going to sheep you Fury.

Sino with the witched claim only makes sense if someone else had claimed witched.

[Trine]

I still find it kind of funny with 2 vig claims that you didn't shoot each other to resolve it but we're here now.

Well I honestly thought that the Marshall was right about you being scum and that if Fury shot me he would most likely be lynched.

[Fury]

Yeah I realize this isn't the easiest story to believe considering that no one else has reported witch feedback yet, but considering that so many players have been inactive or barely participating I believe either the witch controlled players who never bothered to report it or else has been laying low and waiting for TPRs to reveal.

Hell if I was scum I'm sure I could come with a better excuse than this lol

But the fact that night kills remained constant at 3 means that if you truly did shoot as vigilante last night, then a person who can night kill chose not to.

[Frog]

Yeah I realize this isn't the easiest story to believe considering that no one else has reported witch feedback yet, but considering that so many players have been inactive or barely participating I believe either the witch controlled players who never bothered to report it or else has been laying low and waiting for TPRs to reveal.

Hell if I was scum I'm sure I could come with a better excuse than this lol

Lol, the bolded is my only reservation.

Like, it's just such a bad lie if it's a lie.

With two vig claims, you guys need to be resolved, and it looks 1000x better for Fury than for you.

My ONLY hesitation is whether there were ever 4 kills in one night.

If there were, then it's a different ball game.

[Frog]

But the fact that night kills remained constant at 3 means that if you truly did shoot as vigilante last night, then a person who can night kill chose not to.

Yeah, ok, thanks for this.

My mafia team tinfoil is gone.

[Fury]

We have 7 players alive. The fact that I have a bullet left means town isn't fucked just yet if I shoot scum tonight.

Saving a bullet tonight:
Game becomes 5 after singular night kill tonight. I may die though. If I do die, then Unknown will immediately be lynched and game could possibly end right there. If not over after Unknown lynch, it's 3 players. Still a chance for town.

Shooting:
Game becomes 4 after tonight. I may be dead, but if I hit scum game may immediately end anyway with a kill on scum + lynch on Unknown (assuming he didn't kill me).

I think I'm guaranteed to live as long as Unknown isn't lynched. If I ever die, lynch Unknown.

[Fury]

You can't use meta on "if I were scum, I'd have a better lie," because the person behind that account (don't think it's Sino - Btw frog, April Fools prank for this game switched around a bunch of accounts) has only 300-ish posts total anyway on his first FM or so FM game.

[Trine]

There was a night with 4 deaths, but that was attributed to a bodyguard.

[Frog]

Or you assumed I would shoot funce and you intended to claim that shot as you murdered an innocent citizen. If you are so sure I'm lying about my claim, why not shoot me? Perhaps because it would have proved my claim?

Facepalm

This was always the most efficient strategy since it saves a day.

Might still be able to do it tonight, but there's a risk we're outnumbered tomorrow of either of you are night immune.

So this is a pretty big day.

[Frog]

We have 7 players alive. The fact that I have a bullet left means town isn't fucked just yet if I shoot scum tonight.

Saving a bullet tonight:
Game becomes 5 after singular night kill tonight. I may die though. If I do die, then Unknown will immediately be lynched and game could possibly end right there. If not over after Unknown lynch, it's 3 players. Still a chance for town.

Shooting:
Game becomes 4 after tonight. I may be dead, but if I hit scum game may immediately end anyway with a kill on scum + lynch on Unknown (assuming he didn't kill me).

I think I'm guaranteed to live as long as Unknown isn't lynched. If I ever die, lynch Unknown.

Unknown needs to hard claim without FPSing.

I'm blocking my vote with you today.

Please always claim your truthful shot so if unknown is a scum/FPSer and you hit an immune the thread will know.

[Fury]

Unknown needs to hard claim without FPSing.

I'm blocking my vote with you today.

Please always claim your truthful shot so if unknown is a scum/FPSer and you hit an immune the thread will know.

Ok, and I'll leave a last will in that case. On unknown, yes I agree which is why I pinged him. @Unknown1234 maybe a 2nd ping will work.

There was a night with 4 deaths, but that was attributed to a bodyguard.

BG dying causing 4 deaths means still only 3 night kills. And I got feedback that I was attacked, so there wasn't a 4th night kill. Seems like you're grasping at straws.

[Trine]

Ok, and I'll leave a last will in that case. On unknown, yes I agree which is why I pinged him. @Unknown1234 maybe a 2nd ping will work.



BG dying causing 4 deaths means still only 3 night kills. And I got feedback that I was attacked, so there wasn't a 4th night kill. Seems like you're grasping at straws.

No I was simply answering frog's question. There wasn't a night with 4 deaths besides that one which can be explained by BG.

[Frog]

Ok, and I'll leave a last will in that case. On unknown, yes I agree which is why I pinged him. @Unknown1234 maybe a 2nd ping will work.



BG dying causing 4 deaths means still only 3 night kills. And I got feedback that I was attacked, so there wasn't a 4th night kill. Seems like you're grasping at straws.

Ah! Forgot last wills are a thing here!

That's why I used to FPS so much!! Loool!!

[Frog]

"Quote Originally Posted by SlaoI
I don't know who's scum right now.

I checked Iced.

Mason-slaol and Sino are NS, but I only detect Triad/Mafia and Cult. So they could still be neutral killers or DI."

Did anyone read this?

[Frog]

Ohhh!!! But could still be 3P

Ok ok 👌🏻

[Fury]

I was kinda hesitant to block with you Frog, but I read you more town than the other people alive (RIP Trine). I'd like for Iced to come say a few things and for you to give your opinion. Something about him didn't sit right with me, but Grommor derailed my lynch on DH and started a train on a townie and did a million other things that blew my mind, so we lynched him instead. Anyways, I'd like for us to lynch Sino today and look into Iced potentially tomorrow.

@Iced_Monopoly

[Fury]

Looks like he died before he found out if Iced was scum or not? Damn.

[Fury]

I'm going to be gone for an hour. Be back then ^_^

[Trine]

I'm going out as well. Be back later.

[Frog]

Sino, if you're the 3P, that essentially clears Fury when you flip.

If you're villager vigilante, Fury will look 3P due to balance.

I'm going to operate on that assumption since Fury was protected by a bodyguard and the Dragon Head flipped. Ergo, not Triad.

That leaves at leaves at least 1-3 triad remaining and 1-2 3P remaining.

22 players:
Dead Players:
Trine - Marshall
SlaoI - Sheriff
SIaoI - Bodyguard
Fred/secondpassing - Veteran
Alright - Mason Leader
PowersThatBe - Citizen
Mesk514 - Citizen
Stealthbomber16 - Citizen
Grommor - Citizen
Gyrlander/ccantman - Citizen
ika - Amnesiac
Voss - Witch Doctor
Yzb25 - Witch Doctor
Firebringer - Dragon Head
RLVG - Administrator

Frog- Citizen

Sino- Vig/3P*

Fury- Vig*/3P

Unknown- Bodyguard/CitizenFPS (I can't see why Unknown!Wolf blocks himself off from killing Fury!Village ever)

This basically guarantees 2/3 of the following are Triad:
Slaol
Slaol
Iced

Thinking through the best strategy for today.

If we lynch the 3P - 6 left.
If there are 3 triad left we lose at the lynch.
If there are only 1-2 left we continue.
They must shoot Unknown.
Any other shot outs their team and risks loss.
If your shoot, there's a 2/3 chance it works, but then we're at MYLO with 4 players.
If you holster we're at F5 with:
Frog
Fury
Slaol
Slaol
Iced

Pick 2/3 scum in there.

I can't see any fewer than 4 triad for setup balance.

I want some claims from Slaol/Slaol/Iced

[Frog]

I was kinda hesitant to block with you Frog, but I read you more town than the other people alive (RIP Trine). I'd like for Iced to come say a few things and for you to give your opinion. Something about him didn't sit right with me, but Grommor derailed my lynch on DH and started a train on a townie and did a million other things that blew my mind, so we lynched him instead. Anyways, I'd like for us to lynch Sino today and look into Iced potentially tomorrow.

@Iced_Monopoly

Yup. Makes sense 👌🏻

[Frog]

I'll be checking in occasionally but I'm not rereading the thread yet.

[Frog]

@Sino

You're the outted 3P as far as I'm concerned.

Drop the act and explain to me who you think is triad and why we should focus on them first.

[Frog]

What makes this even more lolzorly:
By deduction Sino took the RLVG but didn't claim it.

Why wouldn't you claim that shit for cred?

[Fury]

Very good posts, Frog. I'll add to it when I'm done eating, but you broke it down better than I did for sure.

[Mesk514]

Hello everyone, just woke up and will be jumping into the discussion soon.

A few things I'd like to point out.

• I almost didn't shoot Funce last night because I expected he would be modkilled due to inactivity. But since ika was taken out at end of day yesterday and funce wasn't, I decided to do as I was told in case I was wrong.
• I received feedback that I was controlled, so I assume the Marshall or Sheriff become my target but I am not sure which as I wasn't told who my new target was. This means that there is a Witch, likely among those who claimed citizen.
• Fury was also told to shoot Funce/Frog and did not. Instead he goes off script and shoots a citizen. Is this town behavior?
• Unknown, who claimed Bodyguard, wasn't protecting the Marshall for some reason? I'm sorry but if I was BG I'd be on confirmed town.

Are you fucking dumb, the Marshall told me to go in fury.

[Fury]

Are you fucking dumb, the Marshall told me to go in fury.

You weren't supposed to tell them you were in me last night...

[Frog]

Are you fucking dumb, the Marshall told me to go in fury.

Hey unknown!

Nice to see you here ^_^

I'm assuming you're still claiming BG?

Also, take it easy on Sino.

Sino is outted as the 3P killing so he/she's probably depressed or something.

[Frog]

Spoiler : For you Sino :

Don't worry, be happy