What is the point of calling to close threads anyway? Arsonist could always make more if he wanted.
And it's not a pointless discussion. 1/0 is a perfectly valid element in a set where 1/0 is the only element, for example. Just because something is not part of our normal Real number mathematics doesn't mean it's completely irrelevant
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Sorry for the late reply. I completely forgot about this thread tbh.
I feel like we've been talking over eachother for the last few posts. As is the case with the root(-1) thing, if we can find a definition that is consistent and also has uses, then the definition is justified, even if the new definition no longer retains the intuition that motivated the original definition in the first place (what number do you multiply with x to get 1? what number do you need to square to get y? yadayadayada).
My definition doesn't give 0 a multiplicative inverse, but it remains consistent with every rule (except obviously a/a, but then again imaginary numbers lose ordering so they ain't perfect either) and has a use (we can use it to define a field, then by proving qualities about the field we can prove qualities regarding the reals).
(p;edit sorry for so many shameless edits XD)
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I just can't figure out if this some sort of trolling by you guys by taking this topic serious or are actually taking it serious?
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Math is a just system of counting things.
Maybe only addition, substraction, multiplication and division may help you in the life, but other functions are just usless.
When in the life "factorial" helped you? Never! It's a usless mathematical function, that created a lot of more usless mathematical functions and nothing, besides it.
Even the primitive recursives's functions count is equal to infinity, and most of them, like "tetration, pentation, hexation and e.t.c." are COMPLETELY USLESS.
I'll explain these functions later, and what they do too.
Also, division by 0 will NEVER help you in the life, because the "division by 0" has no sense at all.
So... Dividing by 0, means that you'll slice your cake by 0 parts? That's a big nonsensical bullshit.
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Though to the layman math is just subtraction, division, multiplication, addition and counting, there are many branches of mathematics that have been used by specialists in all sorts of ways. Some of these branches are completely unrelated to counting.
Also, the factorial is not useless. It appears in the equation for the Power Series (which underlie how your computer finds accurate approximations for trig functions and exponential functions... or at least used to) and appears all over the place in statistics (which is very important to real life). It probably appears in loads of other places that I'm too ignorant to know about (RIP).
I vaguely remember you replied to some long ass post I made a while back about morality. I forgot to reply (soz), but I found your's and SP's reply really thought provoking.
idk enough to comment on the perfection of math. Godel's Incompleteness Theorem seem to always come up when people have that debate, but I still need to read like 100 more pages of this book before I even know the proof LOL.