S-FM 298: Third Line Butterfly

[DS.]

Real justice will be kept alive, it'll either be me, ren, DW or DS dead tomorrow.

Uhhh you're somehow clearing Ceko and saying that DW is town?

[Light_Yagami]

Actually, skip does make sense, giving banana one check & potentially making mafia kill oracle is good.

-vote skip

And Light lol "now u wanna skip but when I did on D1 it wasn't good?" Well, yes, exactly scum! :P

[Varcron]

Uhhh you're somehow clearing Ceko and saying that DW is town?

I forgot about ceko, sorry

Me, ren, DW, DS, or ceko

For now yes, I am saying that any not confirmed scum are town

Justice will not be dead tomorrow, that would be a bad scum move.

[DS.]

Dw is potential scum according to bananas results

[Varcron]

I don't really like how Yagami and MM are going back and forth, doesn't make sense for two scum to be going at eachother, but I guess.

[DS.]

I forgot about ceko, sorry

Me, ren, DW, DS, or ceko

For now yes, I am saying that any not confirmed scum are town

Justice will not be dead tomorrow, that would be a bad scum move.

DW will not be killed because that would mechanically confirm MM

[Varcron]

Dw is potential scum according to bananas results

DW is potential scum, but we only know that MM is 100% scum.

[Varcron]

DW will not be killed because that would mechanically confirm MM

It would, so that leaves us at me, ren, DS, or ceko.

[BananaCucho]

Actually it's Nicol Ballas.

A nigh-omnipotent dragon planeswalker

During the MTG Beta Grixis Control was my favorite deck

I only have time in my life for one card game at a time though

[DS.]

DW is potential scum, but we only know that MM is 100% scum.

MM is not 100% scum. He is a potential scum just as DW is.

MM is only 100% scum if you believe light

[theoneceko]

That's not even a scumread though. That's a cryptic "Banana and MM are tied together" message that he set up to try to make his fakeclaim look more credible
I didn't see any actual scumread on me from Kira yesterday.

You didn't provide a lead on day 1. Light was cryptic, but out of necessity since explicitly stating his role and lead would get him killed that night.

[Light_Yagami]

I don't really like how Yagami and MM are going back and forth, doesn't make sense for two scum to be going at eachother, but I guess.

Well Im Not Scum So There Is That..

[BananaCucho]

DW is potential scum, but we only know that MM is 100% scum.

Its MM OR DW. More likely MM I think but not 100%

[BananaCucho]

You didn't provide a lead on day 1. Light was cryptic, but out of necessity since explicitly stating his role and lead would get him killed that night.

I don't claim day 1. Explained this already.

[Light_Yagami]

Its MM OR DW. More likely MM I think but not 100%

See How He Is Flipping The Narrative Now.

[Light_Yagami]

See How He Is Flipping The Narrative Now.

Or Trying 2.

[BananaCucho]

See How He Is Flipping The Narrative Now.

Anyone Reading My Posts Today Know Where My Mind Is At

[Light_Yagami]

Anyone Reading My Posts Today Know Where My Mind Is At

Anyone Reading My Posts Know Ur Full Of Shit.

[Renegade]

Personally I'd rather lynch MM and go a scum down then be able to think for an extra day than being forced to a lynch tomorrow.

Frankly I agree.

[deathworlds]

jfc

At least MM was polite enough to not have this dick-waving contest with me

[Light_Yagami]

Frankly I agree.

I Also Agree

[deathworlds]

Frankly I agree.

There's no incentive for town to not no-lynch today.
We'll be in the same situation as today, except we will have more information, from the Justice's, and the mafia could kill the oracle giving us a confirmed lead to work off of.

[theoneceko]

Banana, you sound genuine, which DS & deathworlds pointed out. In fact, you sound more believable than Light. However, your actions make me think you're scum. You're protecting someone very scummy and lynched Revenant in the process. Compare this with Light, who advocated for a -skip. Also, Marsh's blunder solidifies my belief that you're scum with MM and Varcron.

[theoneceko]

-vote Light_Yagami

Oh well, that solves it. As for Banana's results, it makes the team Deathworlds - Light - [Renegade / DS / Ceko]. Banana and Varcron are confirmed town. The Deathworlds and Varcron part was rather unexpected, I must admit.

Compare this to Marshmallow's d1 read list.

List of Reads



BananaCucho

Theoneceko

Deathworlds
Ganelon

(null) - Revenant

DS

Renegade

Light_Yagami
Varcron (one of them is probably town because they don't look SvS, though)

Note how much these two posts contradict. You switched me to scum and marked Banana and Varcron as "confirmed town," when earlier today you took Banana off the towncore:

I'm on the fence between "Banana is a misguided townie" and "Banana is a powerwolf", atm. The case went out of nowhere, he literally finds something to say against me in nearly every post I made while I was part of the Banana Alliance yesterday? Screw that. Off the towncore you go, although I still feel like your D1 was good enough for me to keep you in town leans. Waiting on a reply.

AND had Varcron in the deep red on your day 1 read list.

This confirms Light's theory that Marsh was bussing Varcron, until you decided to team with Varc+Banana against Light. I think you just bailed from your original strategy and went for Light out of desperation. This is clearly a change in thought processes from Marsh. Also, remember Light wanted this:

Team Is MM Varcron And Banana Im Willing To Lynch All Three.. GG ALL WP Game Over.

In response to Varcron putting himself as "town" on a read list. Note that this smells like another desperate move by Varcron...

And Bull Shit.. You Get To Fall In The Same Hole As The Other Two..

Im Willing To Take On All Three Of The Scum Alone.. Lets Do This..

You Are All Backed Into A Corner With No Defense You Cant Even Attack Me With Out Wincing..

How About No Your Whole Team Is Found Out.. Its Already Over If You Think Im The Villain Vote Me.. And Neither You @Varcron @Marshmallow Marshall Or @BananaCucho Will.. At Least Not At The Same Time... Because It Will Confirm It All. And If All Three Of You Are On My Lynch At My Death The Town Will Know.. But At That Point It Will be 2 Late..

Oh Im Pretty Hope Full It Will Be A Contest Between Me Varcron MM And Banana Soon.. Look How Banana Protected Varcron.. I Mean Be Real..

Okay U Wish I Was Actress.. Like I Said Ill Fight All Three Of Ya Same Time.. No Problem Then Ill Make You Turn Your Head And Cough. Dont Blame Me Because I Got Lucky N1 Dont Blame Me You Slipped By Protecting Varcron. Dont Blame Me I Had A Base Line N1. And Dont Even Try And Blame Me For Mags Death..

@Marshmallow Marshall , why are you so certain Banana is justice that it made you swap me with Varcron in terms of reads?

-vote Light_Yagami

Oh well, that solves it. As for Banana's results, it makes the team Deathworlds - Light - [Renegade / DS / Ceko]. Banana and Varcron are confirmed town.

I think Banana and Varcron voted Marshmallow because they know Marsh's scum meta, either from prior experience or from night chat discussion. (Disclaimer: I may be wrong about this, but Marsh is worse at scum than town because of another forum thread I recently read. Unfortunately, I can't include the exact quote because Frinckles won't let me.) As a result, Banana+Varc would want to distance themselves from Marsh to gain free townie points. It's possible that MM is actress because Varcron soft-voted MM:

I agree with this, MM is our vote for today. If my theory is correct then we vote Yagami first thing tomorrow.

However, if MM was actress and flipped town, this would likely backfire on Varc+Banana. Therefore I think MM is Paparazzi. Based on how quickly Banana counterclaimed Light, I think Banana is actress. Which leaves Varcron being the lover.

[DS.]

Banana is just working through thoughts. It's a natural progression.

Varcron, Mm, Light beginning to solidly into a team comp I think

[deathworlds]

Banana is just working through thoughts. It's a natural progression.

Varcron, Mm, Light beginning to solidly into a team comp I think

But if Banana IS Justice, then Varcron CANNOT be scum, because Varcron is confirmed town from Banana's mechanics

[DS.]

But if Banana IS Justice, then Varcron CANNOT be scum, because Varcron is confirmed town from Banana's mechanics

Ah true, good catch there.

We need more information. Anyone pushing to lynch here is sus

[Light_Yagami]

Ah true, good catch there.

We need more information. Anyone pushing to lynch here is sus

Seriously?????? This Is The Most Cracked Game Ive Played.

[deathworlds]

Seriously?????? This Is The Most Cracked Game Ive Played.

We're certainly in a unique situation here. This is probably one of the only times it makes perfect sense to no-lynch.

[Light_Yagami]

Why Would We Not Lynch MM In This Scenario Since Both Justices Checked Him?

Also Banana Is Clearly Busing Him.

[Light_Yagami]

We're certainly in a unique situation here. This is probably one of the only times it makes perfect sense to no-lynch.

Facepalm.jpg

[deathworlds]

Why Would We Not Lynch MM In This Scenario Since Both Justices Checked Him?

Also Banana Is Clearly Busing Him.

From my PoV and your town!PoV it makes perfect sense to lynch MM, because MM is mechanically confirmed scum.
But to everyone else's PoV it's entirely possible that I am scum and MM is town, which means we're going to wait until you two come up with another check and if Oracle gives us a read.

[BananaCucho]

Banana, you sound genuine, which DS & deathworlds pointed out. In fact, you sound more believable than Light. However, your actions make me think you're scum. You're protecting someone very scummy and lynched Revenant in the process. Compare this with Light, who advocated for a -skip. Also, Marsh's blunder solidifies my belief that you're scum with MM and Varcron.

I protected Vaccuum day 1 cause he was tied to Galeon, who I had a strong town read on. And I continue protecting him today because Galeon flipped town so from my point of view Vaccuum is confirmed town.

I did lynch Irreverent but I wasn't the only one on that lynch if you recall. Saying "you were on the mislynch and that makes you scummy vs the guy who wanted to skip" is just silly. I didnt know Irreverents alignment but he was the best option on the table so I stuck with it.

Kira refused to take a stance which is the oldest most predictable scum move in the book, and you're buying it hook line and sinker. Why? Are you the 3rd?

What blunder are you referring to? MM calling me and Vaccuum "confirmed town"? Kira is calling MM confirmed scum, if MM is town he knows 1) thats a lie, and therefore 2) that I'm actual justice, and I've cleared vaccuum from checking him against Galeon. Thats basic logic.

You're being incredibly obtuse and its starting to annoy to the point in that I'm questioning the reason why you're failing to connect any dots here.

[DS.]

Why Would We Not Lynch MM In This Scenario Since Both Justices Checked Him?

Also Banana Is Clearly Busing Him.

We are in mislynch lose. If you are scum then you are either bussing MM or lying about mm. If you are lying about MM that means that DW is the scum in Bananas justice check and so lynching MM would lose town the game if you are scum

[Light_Yagami]

Honestly, I Hope I Do Die Tonight At This Point..

[Light_Yagami]

We are in mislynch lose. If you are scum then you are either bussing MM or lying about mm. If you are lying about MM that means that DW is the scum in Bananas justice check and so lynching MM would lose town the game if you are scum

I Promise You I Assure You That It Wont Be

[Light_Yagami]

I Promise You I Assure You That It Wont Be

I AM JUSTICE!!

[DS.]

From my PoV and your town!PoV it makes perfect sense to lynch MM, because MM is mechanically confirmed scum.
But to everyone else's PoV it's entirely possible that I am scum and MM is town, which means we're going to wait until you two come up with another check and if Oracle gives us a read.

Yeah I mean it's very likely we all just agree to lynch MM tomorrow anyway lol

[Light_Yagami]

I AM JUSTICE!!

That Dont Look Brown The Color Code Lies

[DS.]

I Promise You I Assure You That It Wont Be

:shrug:

Game looks different from my POV and your POV. I have to play the game the correct way from my POV.

[Varcron]

Compare this to Marshmallow's d1 read list.



Note how much these two posts contradict. You switched me to scum and marked Banana and Varcron as "confirmed town," when earlier today you took Banana off the towncore:



AND had Varcron in the deep red on your day 1 read list.

This confirms Light's theory that Marsh was bussing Varcron, until you decided to team with Varc+Banana against Light. I think you just bailed from your original strategy and went for Light out of desperation. This is clearly a change in thought processes from Marsh. Also, remember Light wanted this:



In response to Varcron putting himself as "town" on a read list. Note that this smells like another desperate move by Varcron...








@Marshmallow Marshall , why are you so certain Banana is justice that it made you swap me with Varcron in terms of reads?



I think Banana and Varcron voted Marshmallow because they know Marsh's scum meta, either from prior experience or from night chat discussion. (Disclaimer: I may be wrong about this, but Marsh is worse at scum than town because of another forum thread I recently read. Unfortunately, I can't include the exact quote because Frinckles won't let me.) As a result, Banana+Varc would want to distance themselves from Marsh to gain free townie points. It's possible that MM is actress because Varcron soft-voted MM:



However, if MM was actress and flipped town, this would likely backfire on Varc+Banana. Therefore I think MM is Paparazzi. Based on how quickly Banana counterclaimed Light, I think Banana is actress. Which leaves Varcron being the lover.

I'd like to point out from this list thingy here

Y'all are speculating how I'd play scum, the problem is in the history of my playing of FM, I have never been scum

Your ideas of what I could potentially do if I were scum are great ideas, the problem is I haven't thought about them because I am citi, not scum.


PS: If you don't believe me you can check, I always act scummy no matter which game I play in.

[deathworlds]

Honestly, I Hope I Do Die Tonight At This Point..

As I said before, I'll even put it in bold white text for you to read easier.

There is no scenario in which scum kills you, Banana, me, or MM. Because killing any one of us confirms the other in each of our 1v1s, which scum wants us to try to figure out on our own.

[Varcron]

As I said before, I'll even put it in bold white text for you to read easier.

There is no scenario in which scum kills you, Banana, me, or MM. Because killing any one of us confirms the other in each of our 1v1s, which scum wants us to try to figure out on our own.

I agree, killing any of you would be a town advantage which they don't want.

[theoneceko]

You didn't provide a lead on day 1. Light was cryptic, but out of necessity since explicitly stating his role and lead would get him killed that night.

Also, if Light died n1 we would've deduced you and MM are same alignment.

[DS.]

also like if oracle is alive tomorrow they claim and we have another confirmed town fwiw

[Varcron]

I agree, killing any of you would be a town advantage which they don't want.

I am not accusing you of scum at this point if it came across that way btw DW

[Light_Yagami]

As I said before, I'll even put it in bold white text for you to read easier.

There is no scenario in which scum kills you, Banana, me, or MM. Because killing any one of us confirms the other in each of our 1v1s, which scum wants us to try to figure out on our own.

Bro Banana And MM Are Scum Here Ill Put It In Big Bold Letters So U Can Understand

[Varcron]

Bro Banana And MM Are Scum Here Ill Put It In Big Bold Letters So U Can Understand

The problem is we have a group that agrees and a group that doesn't, I personally don't really agree but I could be wrong.

[DS.]

I agree, killing any of you would be a town advantage which they don't want.

They won't kill you either because you are tied to Bananas justice

[Varcron]

The problem is we have a group that agrees and a group that doesn't, I personally don't really agree but I could be wrong.

I do however think that MM is scum one way or the other, he is a fairly safe lynch as of now.