S-FM 297: BioMed Industries (Coronavirus Version) - Ladder Game

[S-FM pringles]

Heres the thing Ive been thinking about if Strawberry were scientist making a gambit

If hes scientist, either the infected jumps tonight or dies from exhaustion. And with the doc claim, Strawberry has no choice but to die from exhaustion, either from rb or wifom

So we're in a good spot, cause if Strawberry lives, he's turbolynched next day. All in agreement? And if he jumps to another player, MMXX is turbolynched for lying about doc

This is a great scenario for us, the best outcome for today possible I think

[S-FM MMXX]

Heres the thing Ive been thinking about if Strawberry were scientist making a gambit

If hes scientist, either the infected jumps tonight or dies from exhaustion. And with the doc claim, Strawberry has no choice but to die from exhaustion, either from rb or wifom

So we're in a good spot, cause if Strawberry lives, he's turbolynched next day. All in agreement? And if he jumps to another player, MMXX is turbolynched for lying about doc

This is a great scenario for us, the best outcome for today possible I think

Sounds fine to me. Like I implied with my post a bit back, I really do not think Strawberry is scientist.

[S-FM pringles]

And if MMXX is scientist making a play and pocketing me, well done. But at least he's expressed some doubt about me, which helps with my paranoia a bit, as not many have and someone is trying to pocket me somewhere

[S-FM pringles]

Sounds fine to me. Like I implied with my post a bit back, I really do not think Strawberry is scientist.

Yep. I appreciated it and agreed with the reasoning

[S-FM MMXX]

Yep. I appreciated it and agreed with the reasoning

That post was basically just a fully-written version of what I thought about last night when deciding to vaccinate Strawberry, when I had the same concerns that you and punchy did

[S-FM pringles]

I'll wait for pretzel and punchy to claim

Then I'll drop my bomb

Then I'll state who I want to lynch

[S-FM pringles]

Hi Marshmallow Marshall!

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

It is purely impossible that the Doctor is dead. If Mireska was the Doctor, then Strawberry, who is admittedly Mireska, would have been able to infect yesterday. There is absolutely no reason to intentionally not infect, after the post that he made. Why are you telling us to give away the essence of our roles? That is a foolish move.

[S-FM pringles]

It is purely impossible that the Doctor is dead. If Mireska was the Doctor, then Strawberry, who is admittedly Mireska, would have been able to infect yesterday. There is absolutely no reason to intentionally not infect, after the post that he made. Why are you telling us to give away the essence of our roles? That is a foolish move.

Can you claim please

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

Can you claim please

Not before you explain me your reasoning, mortal.

[S-FM pringles]

If you dont want to claim please explain to me why mass claiming is a bad idea? Town loses nothing from a mass claim today, if we lynch scientist today is last day and we win, if we mislynch tomorrow is LYLO or MLYLO and we mass claim anyway. No kill tonight

Only scum benefits from hidden information at this point

[S-FM pringles]

Not before you explain me your reasoning, mortal.

I HAVE

HAVE YOU NOT READ DAY

[S-FM pringles]

You cant be reasonable all game and then flip to unreasonable when the town is trying to figure it out

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

Heres the thing Ive been thinking about if Strawberry were scientist making a gambit

If hes scientist, either the infected jumps tonight or dies from exhaustion. And with the doc claim, Strawberry has no choice but to die from exhaustion, either from rb or wifom

So we're in a good spot, cause if Strawberry lives, he's turbolynched next day. All in agreement? And if he jumps to another player, MMXX is turbolynched for lying about doc

This is a great scenario for us, the best outcome for today possible I think

MMXX claimed doc? Ah well, I was going to attack him today, but it looks like he is solving his own slot; and since the Doctor already claimed, I might as well claim. I am a simple Lab Tech (of divine essence of course, but without abilities).

I believe it is safe to assume that the Blood Analyzer was Mireska, since any sane blood analyzer would have checked Strawberry last night to remove doubts.

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

I HAVE

HAVE YOU NOT READ DAY

No, I have not, and that is what I shall do now.

[S-FM pringles]

It is purely impossible that the Doctor is dead. If Mireska was the Doctor, then Strawberry, who is admittedly Mireska, would have been able to infect yesterday. There is absolutely no reason to intentionally not infect, after the post that he made. Why are you telling us to give away the essence of our roles? That is a foolish move.

IF YOU BELIEVE THIS then you can see how no kill occurs tonight. If we mislynch, it'll be 4v1 LYLO next day

Cause scientist infects, infected jumps, boom its over

[S-FM pringles]

Punchy you're up

[S-FM pringles]

MMXX claimed doc? Ah well, I was going to attack him today, but it looks like he is solving his own slot; and since the Doctor already claimed, I might as well claim. I am a simple Lab Tech (of divine essence of course, but without abilities).

I believe it is safe to assume that the Blood Analyzer was Mireska, since any sane blood analyzer would have checked Strawberry last night to remove doubts.

I want to respond to this after Punchys claim

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

I Will Keep On Being Mysterious Because This Is Fun And Helps Me Being Unlynchable
Lol Imagine Doctor + Me + A Total Loser + Scientist + Infected Loser Left At 3 vs 2

-vote IceCreamFan

Because MMXX is a self-solving slot, and so is Blueberry. I doubt anyone outside of those three is Sciencist.

[S-FM pringles]

-vote IceCreamFan

Because MMXX is a self-solving slot, and so is Blueberry. I doubt anyone outside of those three is Sciencist.

We should have killed ice cream yesterday smh

[S-FM pringles]

Its one thing for someone to say a player is "too scummy to be scum"

Its another for a player to intentionally play scummy and self proclaim themselves as such

You cant let a player like that go

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

We should have killed ice cream yesterday smh

Well, after Hammond's flip, it's easy to say that. But to be perfectly honest, I find the choice between my strong townreads and Icecream less hard to make than between my strong townreads and Hammond. I think this is Xolotl's last day.

Its one thing for someone to say a player is "too scummy to be scum"

Its another for a player to intentionally play scummy and self proclaim themselves as such

You cant let a player like that go

That is pure troll & scummy, yes.

[S-FM MMXX]

I'll need to reread but I have doubts that IceCreamSham is scientist

Unfortunately they're so much of a liability that the optimal might just be to lynch anyway

[S-FM pringles]

I'll need to reread but I have doubts that IceCreamSham is scientist

Unfortunately they're so much of a liability that the optimal might just be to lynch anyway

I can live with you pocketing me and fakeclaiming doc and fooling me and winning as scum

I cant say the same for Ice cream. If they won as scum playing like that I'd quit mafia forever.

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

I'll need to reread but I have doubts that IceCreamSham is scientist

Unfortunately they're so much of a liability that the optimal might just be to lynch anyway

You made yourself a self-solving slot by claiming Doctor, which is great. We have one mislynch left. If Icecream is town, we have one last chance to lynch the Sciencist afterwards. I like those odds. Lux ex tenebris invictus!

[S-FM pringles]

You made yourself a self-solving slot by claiming Doctor, which is great. We have one mislynch left. If Icecream is town, we have one last chance to lynch the Sciencist afterwards. I like those odds. Lux ex tenebris invictus!

Theres a chance that hes lying and doc is dead

But from a pure probability standpoint, chance that doc is dead is 2/9, and the chance that Mireska then hit scientist is 1/6

Its been a while since Ive done this but the probability of doc dead and Mireska hit scientist should be 2/9 * 1/6 = 1/27

Wheras the probability that doc is alive amd rb'd Mireska is 7/9

I can live with those odds

[S-FM pringles]

Theres a chance that hes lying and doc is dead

But from a pure probability standpoint, chance that doc is dead is 2/9, and the chance that Mireska then hit scientist is 1/6

Its been a while since Ive done this but the probability of doc dead and Mireska hit scientist should be 2/9 * 1/6 = 1/27

Wheras the probability that doc is alive amd rb'd Mireska is 7/9

I can live with those odds

And then MMXX having a strong day 2

I dont see myself lynching MMXX now ever, so if hes scientist Naz should just end it, he wins lol

[S-FM pringles]

Or is chance doc is dead 1/4?

Either way I like those odds

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

Theres a chance that hes lying and doc is dead

But from a pure probability standpoint, chance that doc is dead is 2/9, and the chance that Mireska then hit scientist is 1/6

Its been a while since Ive done this but the probability of doc dead and Mireska hit scientist should be 2/9 * 1/6 = 1/27

Wheras the probability that doc is alive amd rb'd Mireska is 7/9

I can live with those odds

If doc is dead, Mireska necessarily hit the Sciencist, making the odds of Mireska hitting the Sciencist 2/9. I still like those odds.

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

Heres the thing Ive been thinking about if Strawberry were scientist making a gambit

If hes scientist, either the infected jumps tonight or dies from exhaustion. And with the doc claim, Strawberry has no choice but to die from exhaustion, either from rb or wifom

So we're in a good spot, cause if Strawberry lives, he's turbolynched next day. All in agreement? And if he jumps to another player, MMXX is turbolynched for lying about doc

This is a great scenario for us, the best outcome for today possible I think

I agree with this, and agree with the reasoning that Strawberry is not the Sciencist; I had concluded that myself from my own reads earlier.

And if the Sciencist is one of Pringles or Punchy, I will gladly lose to him. I still have some doubts on Krabs, though.

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

Yeah none of this end game talk is AI for anyone here

That being said its still useful to know our options

I would like everyone to keep that in mind, by the way. The only reason I am not voting MMXX, outside of Icecream needing to go, is that he claimed doctor.

[S-FM pringles]

I would like everyone to keep that in mind, by the way. The only reason I am not voting MMXX, outside of Icecream needing to go, is that he claimed doctor.

You dont feel MMXX had a strong turnaround day 2? You still scumread him? But doc is saving grace claim?

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

You dont feel MMXX had a strong turnaround day 2? You still scumread him? But doc is saving grace claim?

I feel like he was less scummy, but not towny; plus, Hammond seriously lowered MMXX's scum equity in my eyes yesterday, but since he flipped town, this feeling is gone. So yes, doc claim is pretty much saving him from my read.

[S-FM punchy]

As for why punchy was so fixated on hunting me down as TPR, I have no ideal

i just read your play as that of a tpr mrmpht. im surprised nobody else did. i think you should have been a bit less snooty and aloof during day one though

[S-FM punchy]

and an important part of mafia is protecting tpr reads. mrmpht

[S-FM punchy]

Punchy you're up

lab tech. mrmpht

[S-FM pringles]

lab tech. mrmpht

Beautiful

I am also a lab tech. Looks like Mireska or Strawberry was blood analyst

I wanted to go last to make sure nobody could fake claim it in fear of cc

-vote IceCreamFan

[S-FM pringles]

i just read your play as that of a tpr mrmpht. im surprised nobody else did. i think you should have been a bit less snooty and aloof during day one though

Did you read him as tpr day one or reach that conclusion day 2? I remember you saying it but cant remember when

[S-FM pringles]

Echelons of pringles trust:

Tier 1 - MMXX, Punchy
Tier 2 - Pretzel, Krabs
Shit tier - Ice cream

[S-FM pringles]

Scientist is kicking themself right now. Could have gone for the blood analyst fakeclaim

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

Beautiful

I am also a lab tech. Looks like Mireska or Strawberry was blood analyst

I wanted to go last to make sure nobody could fake claim it in fear of cc

-vote IceCreamFan

I do not understand the fake claim part. Can you explain this, please?

[S-FM pringles]

#rekt by the

TOWN TAKEOVER

TOWN TAKEOVER

TOWN TAKEOVER

[S-FM pringles]

I do not understand the fake claim part. Can you explain this, please?

Scientist did not know if blood analyst was dead or infected or still around

If scientist claims last, they can easily fake claim blood analyst

But I, town leader, went last, stopping the scientist from doing so

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

Scientist did not know if blood analyst was dead or infected or still around

If scientist claims last, they can easily fake claim blood analyst

But I, town leader, went last, stopping the scientist from doing so

Right. Brain dysfunction, sorry.


Where is Krabs? He gave really good vibes yesterday, but now that he's gone, I'm beginning to think he is coasting away with his newly acquired towny status.

[S-FM pringles]

Right. Brain dysfunction, sorry.


Where is Krabs? He gave really good vibes yesterday, but now that he's gone, I'm beginning to think he is coasting away with his newly acquired towny status.

He claimed Lab Tech

And yeah havent seen much of Krabs

[S-FM pringles]

Could be one of those rare cases where day 1 Krabs scumread was actually correct lol

[S-FM Quetzalcoatl]

Okay, I'm lab tech. No leads here at all, just trying to help how I can.

Yeah, I know.

I think that's his whole contribution today. What are your reads, Krabby?

[S-FM Mutant BlueBerry69]

im back and im going to respond to every single post that ive missed with either "agree" or "disagree"

[S-FM punchy]

where did crab man actually unvote? mrmpht

[S-FM Mutant BlueBerry69]

with chocolate syrup. mrmpht. although cats cannot taste carbohydrates.

agree