S-FM 293: ç

[Kenny]

Sure
you, aamirus, (Voss?), Kira, Ozy I’m not completely sure on
no way I can make 9, half the people in the game haven’t even posted yet

I think Frinckles is scum, maybe Ozy as well
Kenny is my strongest townread by far, followed by aamirus and the Kira

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[Frinckles]

@aamirus
@Frinckles
You're both online.
What's your opinion? What's the worst that could happen?
Care to make an argument against voting mag?
I imagine even the worst as being pro-town.

Well, I think you're hard scum and I'm prepared to die on that hill.
There is an alternative universe where you're town and Magoroth is scum.

I don't need to portray that argument fmpov. It's literally been the past 200 posts.

Perhaps things have changed? I don't think so.

You're both anti-town and full of shit to be honest.

[Ganelon]

Honestly same frinckles @aamirus name top 3 scum

[Frinckles]

@Magoroth just so you know, I intended on putting a bullet in Kenny's head tonight after we lynch Ozy anyway.

[DJarJar]

@aamirus
@Frinckles
You're both online.
What's your opinion? What's the worst that could happen?
Care to make an argument against voting mag?
I imagine even the worst as being pro-town.

Care to make a pro town argument to trying to lock the lynch down with half the day left?

[Ganelon]

@Magoroth just so you know, I intended on putting a bullet in Kenny's head tonight after we lynch Ozy anyway.

You’re not lynching ozy.
and, Kenny should never ever die

[DJarJar]

I think Frinckles is scum, maybe Ozy as well
Kenny is my strongest townread by far, followed by aamirus and the Kira

Not that long ago you were spamming to lynch me “Aamirus is scumpainting me make Aamirus your top vote!!” Now I’m one of your strongest town reads? Why? What CHANGED?

[Frinckles]

You’re not lynching ozy.
and, Kenny should never ever die

Kenny is already dying. I submitted that to the host this morning.
Ozy is being lynched or you're being lynched.

Also, you're TOTALLY not getting elector Mayor. Especially because the whole win-con shit was YOUR idea.

[Ganelon]

I want you all to name too 3 scum.
I might be able to skirt around the restrictions that way

[DJarJar]

@Magoroth just so you know, I intended on putting a bullet in Kenny's head tonight after we lynch Ozy anyway.

Why the fuck would you claim vigilante?

[Ganelon]

Kenny is already dying. I submitted that to the host this morning.
Ozy is being lynched or you're being lynched.

Also, you're TOTALLY not getting elector Mayor. Especially because the whole win-con shit was YOUR idea.

Did you literallyjust claim a killing role

[Frinckles]

Why the fuck would you claim vigilante?

Pretty sure I shoot first anyway. I'm not worried. Kenny is shit, Ozy is shit and Mag is certainly shit.

[Ganelon]

Why the fuck would you claim vigilante?

My exact fucking question

[DJarJar]

Kenny is already dying. I submitted that to the host this morning.
Ozy is being lynched or you're being lynched.

Also, you're TOTALLY not getting elector Mayor. Especially because the whole win-con shit was YOUR idea.

If you only get one chance to use this ability during the day and can’t change your mind ever, why the fuck would you use it that early on?

What. The. Fuck. Is. This. Game.

[Frinckles]

If you only get one chance to use this ability during the day and can’t change your mind ever, why the fuck would you use it that early on?

What. The. Fuck. Is. This. Game.

It happens 30 minutes before EOD (to allow SB16 to keep up with votes n shit.)

Kenny was pissing me off earlier. I should have just used it on Ozy but I'm pretty convinced he's scum.

[Ganelon]

It happens 30 minutes before EOD (to allow SB16 to keep up with votes n shit.)

Kenny was pissing me off earlier. I should have just used it on Ozy but I'm pretty convinced he's scum.

That’s so bad lmao

[Ganelon]

If you only get one chance to use this ability during the day and can’t change your mind ever, why the fuck would you use it that early on?

What. The. Fuck. Is. This. Game.

How do you even know this shit?

[Ganelon]

Is Frinckles a neutral

[Kenny]

You're gonna lynch Frinckles if that actually happens during the day tho, right?

[Frinckles]

That’s so bad lmao

why is that bad? Kenny has been open wolfing.

shitty open ended questions that mean nothing, dodging inquiries, scumpainting, dumbtelling

like what? Ozy and Kenny both need to die

[DJarJar]

If this is serious, I hope you know Kenny’s town meta is to tunnel on people like that, and sometimes during the tunnel he will sound super intelligent like a god tier player who has caught scum and sometimes sound like a moron. Because I think he can’t let go of the tunnel so he will push for dumb reasons sometimes rather than accepting the person could be town.

Anyway I know I can push for dumb reasons too but I’m usually looking for the reaction of the player under pressure rather than being permanently tunneled, but I feel like Kenny usually gets permanently tunneled on someone early as town.

[Ganelon]

what
gimme an example of him open wolfing

[DJarJar]

How do you even know this shit?

It’s what he implied, saying Kenny was already going to die and there was nothing to be done about it

[Ganelon]

It’s what he implied, saying Kenny was already going to die and there was nothing to be done about it

Ah

[Kenny]

Give one example of me being tunneled on a town player.
Every single time I've been tunneled on someone so far they always did end up being scum.

[DJarJar]

Give one example of me being tunneled on a town player.
Every single time I've been tunneled on someone so far they always did end up being scum.

Okay

[Frinckles]

If this is serious, I hope you know Kenny’s town meta is to tunnel on people like that, and sometimes during the tunnel he will sound super intelligent like a god tier player who has caught scum and sometimes sound like a moron. Because I think he can’t let go of the tunnel so he will push for dumb reasons sometimes rather than accepting the person could be town.

Anyway I know I can push for dumb reasons too but I’m usually looking for the reaction of the player under pressure rather than being permanently tunneled, but I feel like Kenny usually gets permanently tunneled on someone early as town.

I mean, I can't exactly change the shot.

He just came off as disingenuous. You and him did the same thing but you actually backed off.. I didn't find any pure intent on his posts.

[DJarJar]

You tunneled mikeu or mike forget which and you were both town, and both kept pushing nonsense at each other all game, that was maybe the original example I based all future interpretations off of

[Kenny]

No I'm serious, I may look tunneled here, but there legitimately hasn't been a single time when someone I was fully tunneled on really was town.
In all the blinkskater games it was blink being tunneled on me, and not the other way around.

[OzyWho]

Well, I think you're hard scum and I'm prepared to die on that hill.
There is an alternative universe where you're town and Magoroth is scum.

I don't need to portray that argument fmpov. It's literally been the past 200 posts.

Perhaps things have changed? I don't think so.

You're both anti-town and full of shit to be honest.

You didn't even bother to make an argument neither for nor against voting mag today.
You're dead set on lynching me today and him tommorow, is that correct?
Didn't even consider considering that perhaps voting mag today, even in the worst case scenario, is pro-town.
Didn't even consider considering having a discussion what is the best action here for town.
To me this is like you're openly saying you don't care about doing pro-town things.
And the fact that you're claiming a killer role? I presume you're GF who saw Mag talk about Triads so you know there might be 2 kills per night and so you claim vigi as GF.
And yes, your whole day has been OMGUS. You didn't even consider at any point in the game that I might be town. All you cared about all game was "no u" in a nutshell.

Care to make a pro town argument to trying to lock the lynch down with half the day left?

I understand that locking votes so early MIGHT discourage discussions.
But we have to talk about the possibility of voting mag D1 at some point. So again. Can you make an argument against it? Because you're against it I believe.

[Kenny]

You tunneled mikeu or mike forget which and you were both town, and both kept pushing nonsense at each other all game, that was maybe the original example I based all future interpretations off of

You mean converging realities?
I was scum that game

[DJarJar]

I mean, I can't exactly change the shot.

He just came off as disingenuous. You and him did the same thing but you actually backed off.. I didn't find any pure intent on his posts.

You omgus killed somebody super early in the day, if it’s true and you’re both town I will be sad

[DJarJar]

You mean converging realities?
I was scum that game

It was a long time ago, I don’t think I played converging realities

[Ganelon]

Why do I feel like Ozy and Frinckles are bussing

[Frinckles]

No I'm serious, I may look tunneled here, but there legitimately hasn't been a single time when someone I was fully tunneled on really was town.
In all the blinkskater games it was blink being tunneled on me, and not the other way around.

well, fuck. then I messed up this game.

I probably should have just waited until d2 to make that kind of read

[DJarJar]

No I'm serious, I may look tunneled here, but there legitimately hasn't been a single time when someone I was fully tunneled on really was town.
In all the blinkskater games it was blink being tunneled on me, and not the other way around.

Come on, I’m not going to dig through countless games to show the evidence. That would take ages for a pointless argument. I’m just saying you always tunnel like that as town and it’s a good thing because it implies you’re town. I understand wanting to defend your skill/character or whatever but that’s irrelevant to the game, just accept my town read lol

[Kenny]

My town games on this site were:
1k rolecards
Illuminati
Noob friendiest game ever
Clown Town
The Werewolf Ball
The Immortals
High Noon At The Redwood Saloon

[Ganelon]

Come on, I’m not going to dig through countless games to show the evidence. That would take ages for a pointless argument. I’m just saying you always tunnel like that as town and it’s a good thing because it implies you’re town. I understand wanting to defend your skill/character or whatever but that’s irrelevant to the game, just accept my town read lol

Who’s your top scumread
also, I’m going to sleep good night

[Frinckles]

Who’s your top scumread
also, I’m going to sleep good night

are we fucked if kenny dies?? can you tell us?

[DJarJar]

You didn't even bother to make an argument neither for nor against voting mag today.
You're dead set on lynching me today and him tommorow, is that correct?
Didn't even consider considering that perhaps voting mag today, even in the worst case scenario, is pro-town.
Didn't even consider considering having a discussion what is the best action here for town.
To me this is like you're openly saying you don't care about doing pro-town things.
And the fact that you're claiming a killer role? I presume you're GF who saw Mag talk about Triads so you know there might be 2 kills per night and so you claim vigi as GF.
And yes, your whole day has been OMGUS. You didn't even consider at any point in the game that I might be town. All you cared about all game was "no u" in a nutshell.


I understand that locking votes so early MIGHT discourage discussions.
But we have to talk about the possibility of voting mag D1 at some point. So again. Can you make an argument against it? Because you're against it I believe.

How am I against it? Why is questioning mag equal to saying I won’t lynch him? Honestly I’m 80% sure he will retract his claim later anyway

[DJarJar]

I guess the site died for everyone else too?

[Ganelon]

Yes

[Voss]

@Voss please, is your rolecard colored in green, does it mention the word "green" or is it just sloppily made without anything about color?
And don't forget to fix your bot. The individual vote views are not working

Spoiler : voss's role :

Your role is REDACTED

~possible stuff here~

Eliminate anyone who is a threat to the town

~possible stuff here~

For the time being, you'll just have to refresh the page any time you want to look at a second person's vote. I'll try and update soon, but since this is heavily heavily tied into the narrator, I can't push condorcet code until narrator code is pushed.

[Voss]

Spoiler : voss's role :

Your role is REDACTED

~possible stuff here~

Eliminate anyone who is a threat to the town

~possible stuff here~

For the time being, you'll just have to refresh the page any time you want to look at a second person's vote. I'll try and update soon, but since this is heavily heavily tied into the narrator, I can't push condorcet code until narrator code is pushed.

I apologize

[OzyWho]

Yeh.

By the way. I find it humorous that people are supposed to buy this a Town Frinckles.
Well, maybe he got hit in the head since his last game or something. But, if he's town, his usefulness has certainly dropped rock bottom as a Town.
Like we are supposed to believe this shitty player is town Frinckles? Frinckles? Cmoon..
And yeh. I have no problem calling him shitty, given that he called everyone shitty who scumreads him.

Can we just take a moment that even his day kill action doesn't make sense from a town Frinckles perspective but makes perfect sense for him as a scum?

[Kenny]

Come on, I’m not going to dig through countless games to show the evidence. That would take ages for a pointless argument. I’m just saying you always tunnel like that as town and it’s a good thing because it implies you’re town. I understand wanting to defend your skill/character or whatever but that’s irrelevant to the game, just accept my town read lol

I'm being serious here.
Of all my towngames the only ones with Mike in them were
Clown Town
Werewolf Ball
Mages Guild
The Immortals.

In the werewolf ball I got turbolynched at EoD1 after being afk for more than half of day 1. Auckmid then wrote his famous why is turbolynching bad and how you all suck last will book.
Clown Town Mike was lynched d1 after I was afk for like 24 hours with no read given on his slot...
The Immortals I was nightkilled by the busdriver after hardclaiming vig saying I'd shoot Wiisp to prove myself. Wiisp was town, but I never said that game he'd be my hard scumread. He was one of 2 scumreads, on both of which I said I'm not sure about.
The Mages Guild Mike got replaced by you and survived till the end, as town without having been tunneled by me.

So, I now went through the effort of looking up every single game with me as town and Mike in it too. There hasn't been a single time I was mistakenly tunneled on him, or any other town member.

I may get tunneled at times, but every single time it happened so far the person I've heavily scumread did end up flipping scum too.
This is not gonna be an exception either. There is no world in which a legit town vig would randomly shoot this early at me. Frinckles has been acting scummy as all hell throughout the day. I may have not been showing this as heavily as I'm now making it sound, and honestly I was willing to take a compromise and go for a weaker scumread, but with him shooting me this just confirms it here.
The only situation in which that play would make sense is either a) Frinckles is strongman, panicking to get his last shot out before getting lynched, maybe hoping for a vig read from it, or b) Frinckles not even having a shot, but just bluffing to throw over people's reads. There is no fucking way I'd view this as town play. Frinckles has literally done almost this exact thing in a game before, where Mag gave him poison and whatnot.

[Kenny]

I'm being serious here.
Of all my towngames the only ones with Mike in them were
Clown Town
Werewolf Ball
Mages Guild
The Immortals.

In the werewolf ball I got turbolynched at EoD1 after being afk for more than half of day 1. Auckmid then wrote his famous why is turbolynching bad and how you all suck last will book.
Clown Town Mike was lynched d1 after I was afk for like 24 hours with no read given on his slot...
The Immortals I was nightkilled by the busdriver after hardclaiming vig saying I'd shoot Wiisp to prove myself. Wiisp was town, but I never said that game he'd be my hard scumread. He was one of 2 scumreads, on both of which I said I'm not sure about.
The Mages Guild Mike got replaced by you and survived till the end, as town without having been tunneled by me.

So, I now went through the effort of looking up every single game with me as town and Mike in it too. There hasn't been a single time I was mistakenly tunneled on him, or any other town member.

I may get tunneled at times, but every single time it happened so far the person I've heavily scumread did end up flipping scum too.
This is not gonna be an exception either. There is no world in which a legit town vig would randomly shoot this early at me. Frinckles has been acting scummy as all hell throughout the day. I may have not been showing this as heavily as I'm now making it sound, and honestly I was willing to take a compromise and go for a weaker scumread, but with him shooting me this just confirms it here.
The only situation in which that play would make sense is either a) Frinckles is strongman, panicking to get his last shot out before getting lynched, maybe hoping for a vig read from it, or b) Frinckles not even having a shot, but just bluffing to throw over people's reads. There is no fucking way I'd view this as town play. Frinckles has literally done almost this exact thing in a game before, where Mag gave him poison and whatnot.

Redwood Saloon was the poison game

[Voss]

wait so frinckles' action is "locked in?"

[Kenny]

If I were to legitimately get killed here, and my flip were to be publicized before EoD, there'd be 0 reason for me to make this up. It'd just hurt my reputation for no reason to defend one read. I'm telling this in a mindset of fully believing Frinckles is killing me here.

[Frinckles]

There is no world in which a legit town vig would randomly shoot this early at me. Frinckles has been acting scummy as all hell throughout the day. I may have not been showing this as heavily as I'm now making it sound, and honestly I was willing to take a compromise and go for a weaker scumread, but with him shooting me this just confirms it here.
The only situation in which that play would make sense is either a) Frinckles is strongman, panicking to get his last shot out before getting lynched, maybe hoping for a vig read from it, or b) Frinckles not even having a shot, but just bluffing to throw over people's reads. There is no fucking way I'd view this as town play. Frinckles has literally done almost this exact thing in a game before, where Mag gave him poison and whatnot.

Can you stop crying? I was bluffing to see if Magoroth would give any info about you. I just also had to do real life things and left the bluff going too long.