S-FM 293: ç

[Ganelon]

Spoiler : cvote :

OzyWho,Gyrlander,Octane,HueyTheLong,PPFortress,Vos s,Frinckles,Kenny,aamirus,Magoroth,Light_Yagami,

[Ganelon]

I think the scum team is afk lol

[Ganelon]

I’m p sure it’s PFortress and one of the other asks, but meh

[Ganelon]

Afks

[Frinckles]

But before I go, I'll share my favorite memory of this FM in a segment called "Ozys say the darnest things."

I'll start with this one:

"Got defensive real quick? Real defensive, real quick, and it’s almost as if that defensive part never stopped. I can feel no contribution to the game from Frinckle’s slot."

I didnt think I could be that defensive, or fast nor with such stamina. Thank you Ozy.

[Kenny]

One more thing to note today is, Huey, pp and octane still haven't reached the minimum post count stealth wanted from them. If @Stealthbomber16 was serious about modkilling, even when completely disagreeing on my opinion, it makes no sense to vote them.

[Frinckles]

@Voss I believe ozy asked you about this and you didn't answer. How can he be both abrasive and avoid rocking the boat?

He literally cussed me out this morning because he couldnt read what I wrote or respond to it.

[DJarJar]

Spoiler : cvote :

Octane,PPFortress,Frinckles,HueyTheLong,Light_Yagami,Mag oroth,Gyrlander,OzyWho,Kenny,aamirus,Voss,

Just a friendly reminder that Octane is set to be eliminated at EoD.

yeah i've shifted things around

Spoiler : cvote :

PPFortress,HueyTheLong,Magoroth,Frinckles,Gyrlande r,Octane,Light_Yagami,OzyWho,Kenny,aamirus,Voss,

Last Votes:
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post843224

I'd actually like to bring attention to the fact that I'd pick Mag over Frinckles.

PPFortress came in and said I seem fishy, so I don't need that slot in my life. Would rather have Huey around than PPFortress.

Octane's made me laugh, and if someone were to tell me that there's 2 scum between PPFortres, Huey, and Octane, I'd think Octane is the non scum. Or at least, I'm curious to see what they'd do in future games. Maybe they pick up their game in Day 2 over the weekend.

I'm also considering moving Ozy in between Frinckles and Gyrlander, or in between Gyrlander and Octane, but don't really have strong convictions to repost a vote.

@Voss
Could you elaborate on the concept of Octane making you laugh? It certainly feels like you are protecting octane.

I mean, mag is the only other name that moves significantly between these two votes.

[Voss]

@Voss I believe ozy asked you about this and you didn't answer. How can he be both abrasive and avoid rocking the boat?

I didn't think that he's abrasive. I said I hadn't seen Ozy play abrasively. Playing non abrasively and avoiding rocking the boat can go hand in hand.

Also no one answered my question on Ozy, but I'm fine just making my own assumptions based on my previous out of game interactions with ozy.

[Gyrlander]

I’m p sure it’s PFortress and one of the other asks, but meh

But you vote OzyWho and me. ?

[Frinckles]

You know when your BF/GF says stuff that makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside? Me too.

"I find it humorous that people are supposed to buy this a Town Frinckles.
Well, maybe he got hit in the head since his last game or something. But, if he's town, his usefulness has certainly dropped rock bottom as a Town.
Like we are supposed to believe this shitty player is town Frinckles? Frinckles? Cmoon..
And yeh. I have no problem calling him shitty, given that he called everyone shitty who scumreads him."

[DJarJar]

Mira, just speed ran through this entire thread.
I’ll be honest amigo, still don’t know what’s going on.
Like who has time to read an entire thread? BORING!

Hey you know what’s arrived compadre?

/Vote Light

That’s right!
All aboard the Octrain!

This is the only thing he says between you putting him at top scum and you saying "Just a friendly reminder that Octane is set to be eliminated at EoD.", which I read as you not wanting octane to be the lynch anymore.

[Gyrlander]

Why is Frinckles a reverse tsundere?

[Voss]

Aw yeah amigo!
Just in time for the fun!
Next Stop. Octrain.

Mira, just speed ran through this entire thread.
I’ll be honest amigo, still don’t know what’s going on.
Like who has time to read an entire thread? BORING!

Hey you know what’s arrived compadre?

/Vote Light

That’s right!
All aboard the Octrain!

(Wait frinckles in one of your posts didn’t you say “is this how you play atown game?)

/Vote Frinckles

Also, I can’t wait for season 4 trailer today!

@SB can I switch to Pathfinder?

@Voss
Could you elaborate on the concept of Octane making you laugh? It certainly feels like you are protecting octane.

I mean, mag is the only other name that moves significantly between these two votes.

I highlighted all the quirky things octane's said. Such spunk. Huey and Fortress have not made me laugh.

Also, I can totally see how I could look like my vote is protecting octane by placing him in the middle of my votes. Buuuuut this is my counter explanation.

[Frinckles]

Why is Frinckles a reverse tsundere?

I must have gotten hit in the head.

[Voss]

This is the only thing he says between you putting him at top scum and you saying "Just a friendly reminder that Octane is set to be eliminated at EoD.", which I read as you not wanting octane to be the lynch anymore.

oh, yeah, no i was just trying to be helpful bc i thought votes hadn't moved around much. I honestly don't know how often people look at the votes and if they feel pressured if they're at the top of the list. most games i've seen, people don't really respond to it.

which is their fucking folly.

[Gyrlander]

I must have gotten hit in the head.

You're most probably not getting lynched today, so you might as well stop talking as if you were.

[DJarJar]

oh, yeah, no i was just trying to be helpful bc i thought votes hadn't moved around much. I honestly don't know how often people look at the votes and if they feel pressured if they're at the top of the list. most games i've seen, people don't really respond to it.

which is their fucking folly.

How come you're coasting so much? As town don't you usually make large wallpost readslists? When I look through your ISO you mostly only talk about how Condorcet voting works and the narrator and not the game

[DJarJar]

and townreading people cuz they make you laugh like wut

[Frinckles]

and townreading people cuz they make you laugh like wut

He wanted to switch his persona from Octane to Pathfinder who is an upbeat happy and helpful robot killing machine.

Do with that what you will.

[Frinckles]

It looks scummy if you don't even consider the possibilities in a hidden setup, as if perhaps you already know the teams. That's why I would like you to consider the possibilities...

Okay, here; If scum is cult then the two most likely people to cult together (the initial cult + first convert) would be Ozy and Kenny, true or false?

[DJarJar]

Okay, here; If scum is cult then the two most likely people to cult together (the initial cult + first convert) would be Ozy and Kenny, true or false?

Well of course that would be your perspective on it, since they've both been locked onto you for the majority of the day. However I do think that would be a bit too obvious, the scum don't really need to double down that hard on d1 to get a single towny lynched.

[DJarJar]

How come you're coasting so much? As town don't you usually make large wallpost readslists? When I look through your ISO you mostly only talk about how Condorcet voting works and the narrator and not the game

@Voss

[Frinckles]

Well of course that would be your perspective on it, since they've both been locked onto you for the majority of the day. However I do think that would be a bit too obvious, the scum don't really need to double down that hard on d1 to get a single towny lynched.

You wanted my perspective of it. Who else?

[DJarJar]

You wanted my perspective of it. Who else?

The trouble is, so much of the day was dedicated to you 3 railing on each other, that I can't imagine why the scums wouldn't just happily coast knowing they don't have to do a thing

[Frinckles]

The trouble is, so much of the day was dedicated to you 3 railing on each other, that I can't imagine why the scums wouldn't just happily coast knowing they don't have to do a thing

So you townread all three of us?

[DJarJar]

Spoiler : cvote :

Voss,aamirus,OzyWho,Frinckles,Light_Yagami,Magorot h,Kenny,Gyrlander,Octane,PPFortress,HueyTheLong,

[Gyrlander]

Condorcet is weird as fuck. How did I get from 8 to 3 and Magoroth suddenly jumped to 2?

What the fuck.

[Voss]

How come you're coasting so much? As town don't you usually make large wallpost readslists? When I look through your ISO you mostly only talk about how Condorcet voting works and the narrator and not the game

I don't play FMs because I get too addicted to sticking and watching the thread. I did a good job with myself for the earlier part of this day, mainly bc work demanded i give their attention. That's probably where you get the coasting from.

We've also played together in games where there aren't 3 inactives. Usually it's just one. I have trouble making myself push mag/frinckles for their shenanigans today when I'm fine with a huey or fortress flip, so that's where I'm at.

We've also played together in games where I'm bullying DudeMike, Light, or Efe for doing things I don't think are towny. Granted that's mag and frinckles this game, but... see above.

But no, I'm not a huge wall poster, and if I do, I organize it in spoilers so it's readable.

and townreading people cuz they make you laugh like wut

WHOA WHOA my town core is everyone below octane. Octane does not make that cut. I just have high hopes for a better octane day tomorrow.

[Frinckles]

Condorcet is weird as fuck. How did I get from 8 to 3 and Magoroth suddenly jumped to 2?

What the fuck.

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[Light_Yagami]

Spoiler : cvote :

HueyTheLong,Octane,OzyWho,Voss,PPFortress,Magoroth ,Gyrlander,Frinckles,Kenny,Light_Yagami,aamirus,

[DJarJar]

I don't play FMs because I get too addicted to sticking and watching the thread. I did a good job with myself for the earlier part of this day, mainly bc work demanded i give their attention. That's probably where you get the coasting from.

We've also played together in games where there aren't 3 inactives. Usually it's just one. I have trouble making myself push mag/frinckles for their shenanigans today when I'm fine with a huey or fortress flip, so that's where I'm at.

We've also played together in games where I'm bullying DudeMike, Light, or Efe for doing things I don't think are towny. Granted that's mag and frinckles this game, but... see above.

But no, I'm not a huge wall poster, and if I do, I organize it in spoilers so it's readable.



WHOA WHOA my town core is everyone below octane. Octane does not make that cut. I just have high hopes for a better octane day tomorrow.

If you want to push mag and frinckles, why don't you put them at the top of your lynch pool instead of the afks minus octane

[Gyrlander]

Spoiler : cvote :

HueyTheLong,Octane,OzyWho,Voss,PPFortress,Magoroth ,Gyrlander,Frinckles,Kenny,Light_Yagami,aamirus,

Nevermind, we're back to 8 and 7.

WHY 1 VOTE HAS SO MUCH POWAH

[Frinckles]

What havent I done towny?

Literally anyone answer this.

[Voss]

Condorcet is weird as fuck. How did I get from 8 to 3 and Magoroth suddenly jumped to 2?

What the fuck.

the votes are all really close between those. If I had the luxury of time, I'd put a timeline feature into the UI to see how the votes looked like after each vote.

Spoiler : vote_stats :

[
0.37 Voss - Light_Yagami,
0.37 Voss - Magoroth,
0.37 Voss - aamirus,
0.37 Frinckles - aamirus,
0.37 OzyWho - aamirus,
0.37 OzyWho - Kenny,
0.27 Octane - aamirus,
0.27 PPFortress - aamirus,
0.27 HueyTheLong - aamirus,
0.25 Voss - Kenny,
0.25 Frinckles - Light_Yagami,
0.25 Frinckles - Kenny,
0.25 Gyrlander - Light_Yagami,
0.25 OzyWho - Light_Yagami,
0.25 Magoroth - aamirus,
0.25 Magoroth - Gyrlander,
0.25 OzyWho - Magoroth,
0.25 Gyrlander - aamirus,
0.25 Kenny - aamirus,
0.25 OzyWho - Gyrlander,
0.16 HueyTheLong - Voss,
0.16 OzyWho - PPFortress,
0.16 HueyTheLong - Light_Yagami,
0.16 HueyTheLong - Magoroth,
0.16 Octane - Voss,
0.16 Octane - Light_Yagami,
0.16 Octane - Kenny,
0.16 PPFortress - Light_Yagami,
0.16 PPFortress - Magoroth,
0.16 PPFortress - Kenny,
0.16 HueyTheLong - Kenny,
0.12 Voss - Frinckles,
0.12 Voss - Gyrlander,
0.12 OzyWho - Voss,
0.12 Frinckles - Magoroth,
0.12 Frinckles - Gyrlander,
0.12 OzyWho - Frinckles,
0.12 Magoroth - Light_Yagami,
0.12 aamirus - Light_Yagami,
0.12 Magoroth - Kenny,
0.12 Gyrlander - Kenny,
0.09 Octane - PPFortress,
0.09 Octane - HueyTheLong,
0.09 PPFortress - HueyTheLong,
0.05 Frinckles - Octane,
0.05 Octane - Magoroth,
0.05 Gyrlander - Octane,
0.05 OzyWho - Octane,
0.05 PPFortress - Voss,
0.05 PPFortress - Frinckles,
0.05 PPFortress - Gyrlander,
0.05 HueyTheLong - Frinckles,
0.05 HueyTheLong - Gyrlander,
0.05 OzyWho - HueyTheLong,
0.0 Kenny - Light_Yagami]

[Voss]

If you want to push mag and frinckles, why don't you put them at the top of your lynch pool instead of the afks minus octane

because i'd rather see the afks die???

no scum is going to night kill those afks, but there's a chance that they nk frinckles or mag for dripping TPR.

[Frinckles]

Spoiler : cvote :

HueyTheLong,Octane,OzyWho,Voss,PPFortress,Magoroth ,Gyrlander,Frinckles,Kenny,Light_Yagami,aamirus,

Nevermind, we're back to 8 and 7.

WHY 1 VOTE HAS SO MUCH POWAH

My town core.. (๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)ﻭ

[Frinckles]

because i'd rather see the afks die???

no scum is going to night kill those afks, but there's a chance that they nk frinckles or mag for dripping TPR.

I am certainly being nightkilled.

[DJarJar]

because i'd rather see the afks die???

no scum is going to night kill those afks, but there's a chance that they nk frinckles or mag for dripping TPR.

did you just call your scumreads TPRs?

[Voss]

did you just call your scumreads TPRs?

yes.

but do i believe they're tprs? no.

but maybe scum does, and they'll shoot/burn/electrocute/w.e them.

[DJarJar]

because i'd rather see the afks die???

no scum is going to night kill those afks, but there's a chance that they nk frinckles or mag for dripping TPR.

Shouldn't you adjust your vote and put ozy and octane closer to top town so that 1 of your desired lynches is the top scum?

[Frinckles]

Anyone else excited for Hueys impending wall post?

[Voss]

Shouldn't you adjust your vote and put ozy and octane closer to top town so that 1 of your desired lynches is the top scum?

that's exactly the behavior we should NOT be doing in bird vote. it works fine if one person does it, but if everyone does it, it just makes the votes more unstable than gyr's bouncing around and you end up with 4 way ties decided by someone at the bottom.

[DJarJar]

Anyone else excited for Hueys impending wall post?

as if

[DJarJar]

that's exactly the behavior we should NOT be doing in bird vote. it works fine if one person does it, but if everyone does it, it just makes the votes more unstable than gyr's bouncing around and you end up with 4 way ties decided by someone at the bottom.

so you're content with ozy being lynched? because you're not doing anything about it

[Frinckles]

Host setup speculation is fair, no?

[DJarJar]

Host setup speculation is fair, no?

well we've been doing it quite a bit, and why not in a hidden setup

[Voss]

so you're content with ozy being lynched? because you're not doing anything about it

gdi aamirus, i'm trying to get away and do real life things. stop talking to me.

fine, i'll do something obnoxious

[DJarJar]

gdi aamirus, i'm trying to get away and do real life things. stop talking to me.

fine, i'll do something obnoxious

[Frinckles]

SB16 specifically requested Condorcet voting, probably not just to give Voss some extra testing.

The setup is experimental. Something needs to be absolutely unusual to fall into that sort of category.

I dont think I've heard SB16 mention explicitly 'lynch' outside of a joke he made about rigging it.

Would lynching the most 'town' person on a bird vote be experimental?

It would also work out interestingly with the pseudo hidden portion of voting.