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    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I've checked to make sure, and there's no role that does anything about opening post lol. What are you trying to say?
    Here Let Me Explain Further.. I Know My Role... Got A Role Card Didnt I.... Now Based On Only That And Mags Intro To The Game Post On Page 1 U Cant Miss It.. Its The First Post.. Has Everyone Referenced In Im Assuming No Particular Order.. Based On My Position In The Name List.. And Based On Me Knowing Only My Role. I Believe, That Huey And Voss Are Scum Team..

  2. ISO #52

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    A) Check my /sign

    B) Are you trying to thunderdome me?
    What would be the benefits for town!Light and scum!Light if he was to thunderdome you?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Here Let Me Explain Further.. I Know My Role... Got A Role Card Didnt I.... Now Based On Only That And Mags Intro To The Game Post On Page 1 U Cant Miss It.. Its The First Post.. Has Everyone Referenced In Im Assuming No Particular Order.. Based On My Position In The Name List.. And Based On Me Knowing Only My Role. I Believe, That Huey And Voss Are Scum Team..
    All right then, keep your secrets.

  5. ISO #55

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    He's just Lightening the mood, I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Here Let Me Explain Further.. I Know My Role... Got A Role Card Didnt I.... Now Based On Only That And Mags Intro To The Game Post On Page 1 U Cant Miss It.. Its The First Post.. Has Everyone Referenced In Im Assuming No Particular Order.. Based On My Position In The Name List.. And Based On Me Knowing Only My Role. I Believe, That Huey And Voss Are Scum Team..
    ...
    ...
    ...
    @Efekannn02 save us, what are your reads as of now? What do you think about Light's weird stuff?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  6. ISO #56

  7. ISO #57

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Tbh, scummiest two people here fmpov are SB16 & Voss for thier secondary and tertiary fos/bandwagons on Huey. I don't see anything truly alignment indicative about what Huey said. And outside of what I perceive as Light reaction testing, I cant justify a vote on him.

    Additionally, if Light were scum -- he'd have pushed a huey only two votes from a lynch. I doubt his vote would be on MM particularly if a teammate was available to help hammer outside of voss/sb16.

    Hope that made enough sense.

  8. ISO #58

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Tbh, scummiest two people here fmpov are SB16 & Voss for thier secondary and tertiary fos/bandwagons on Huey. I don't see anything truly alignment indicative about what Huey said. And outside of what I perceive as Light reaction testing, I cant justify a vote on him.

    Additionally, if Light were scum -- he'd have pushed a huey only two votes from a lynch. I doubt his vote would be on MM particularly if a teammate was available to help hammer outside of voss/sb16.

    Hope that made enough sense.
    Sounds Legit To Me..

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    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Tbh, scummiest two people here fmpov are SB16 & Voss for thier secondary and tertiary fos/bandwagons on Huey. I don't see anything truly alignment indicative about what Huey said. And outside of what I perceive as Light reaction testing, I cant justify a vote on him.

    Additionally, if Light were scum -- he'd have pushed a huey only two votes from a lynch. I doubt his vote would be on MM particularly if a teammate was available to help hammer outside of voss/sb16.

    Hope that made enough sense.
    Why would scum want to instant hammer early on D1, pray tell? That would just out them lol, we're not at MYLO...
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  12. ISO #62

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    -vote Stealthbomber16


    Suppose I'll vote up or shut up.
    I like this.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  13. ISO #63

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Why would scum want to instant hammer early on D1, pray tell? That would just out them lol, we're not at MYLO...
    Scum doesn't need to hammer. Scum just needs to convince someone else to hammer while they hold the nail in place. I'm just wary of two people holding the nail.

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    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    I'm having a difficult time trying to read you.

    Now I wanna know. Do you have a solid theory about Voss and Huey? Or did you just wake up wanting to lynch them two
    Im Approaching This Particular Game Just Like The Mod.. Just Waiting For The Right Wording Or Something To That Effect To Prove My Theory..

  16. ISO #66

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Scum doesn't need to hammer. Scum just needs to convince someone else to hammer while they hold the nail in place. I'm just wary of two people holding the nail.
    Who in the world would hammer early as town...? It would be dumb to do so.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  17. ISO #67

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Who in the world would hammer early as town...? It would be dumb to do so.
    There are quite a few players in this game that'd do so with zero reasoning, much less a good one.

    And if Light is town, scum could easily pin the blame on him or another bandwagoning player.

  18. ISO #68

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    There are quite a few players in this game that'd do so with zero reasoning, much less a good one.

    And if Light is town, scum could easily pin the blame on him or another bandwagoning player.
    Even if we have players with marginal plays, I don't think they're gamethrowers. Hammering early like that would pretty much be along the lines of gamethrowing, unless the player is new, in which case we'd just have to tell them not to do it... I think your point is bad there.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  19. ISO #69

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Even if we have players with marginal plays, I don't think they're gamethrowers. Hammering early like that would pretty much be along the lines of gamethrowing, unless the player is new, in which case we'd just have to tell them not to do it... I think your point is bad there.
    But If The Person Believes They Are Correct In Their Reasoning How Is That Throwing?

  20. ISO #70

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Even if we have players with marginal plays, I don't think they're gamethrowers. Hammering early like that would pretty much be along the lines of gamethrowing, unless the player is new, in which case we'd just have to tell them not to do it... I think your point is bad there.
    If I was convinced somebody was scum, I wouldnt slowroll the day. I'd hammer.

    Accidentally mislynching isn't a gamethrow and your counterargument omits that the scum need only make one reasonably convincing argument to push said hammer.

    While they haven't yet, we don't know if they will and there are only 5 voted to lynch.

  21. ISO #71

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Some thoughts.

    1) The Lawyer has vaulted into my top tier town read for accurately reading the situation.

    2) I would totally hammer early if I thought i was 99.99% + right. Sometimes days just need to end. But if I'm wrong, I'd probably roll over and die.

    3) Someone is going to need to de-escalate this light/voss situation unless they think something alignment indicative is going to come out.

    4) MM, are you playing your meta, or were you trying to change it?

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  22. ISO #72

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Some thoughts.

    1) The Lawyer has vaulted into my top tier town read for accurately reading the situation.

    2) I would totally hammer early if I thought i was 99.99% + right. Sometimes days just need to end. But if I'm wrong, I'd probably roll over and die.

    3) Someone is going to need to de-escalate this light/voss situation unless they think something alignment indicative is going to come out.

    4) MM, are you playing your meta, or were you trying to change it?
    Now Its Turned Into A Situation.. Hmmm.. Launching It From Me Having A Theory.. To It Being A Situation.. Sounds Like Your On The Run.. Because You Know The Jig Is Up.. Interesting...

  23. ISO #73

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Now Its Turned Into A Situation.. Hmmm.. Launching It From Me Having A Theory.. To It Being A Situation.. Sounds Like Your On The Run.. Because You Know The Jig Is Up.. Interesting...
    Okay so you want to thunderdome.

    With this post, you're making it sound like you're investigating something, and that I know you know I'm scum and now I'm "running away". Or in other words, bad scum painting and filler.

    -vote Light_yagami

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  24. ISO #74

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Okay so you want to thunderdome.

    With this post, you're making it sound like you're investigating something, and that I know you know I'm scum and now I'm "running away". Or in other words, bad scum painting and filler.

    -vote Light_yagami
    if anyone calls this a slip and feeds light's "scum hunting" I will also vote you.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  25. ISO #75

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Okay so you want to thunderdome.

    With this post, you're making it sound like you're investigating something, and that I know you know I'm scum and now I'm "running away". Or in other words, bad scum painting and filler.

    -vote Light_yagami
    Careful Now Voss You Dont Wanna Get Thunderstruck Do Ya?

  26. ISO #76

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    There are quite a few players in this game that'd do so with zero reasoning, much less a good one.

    And if Light is town, scum could easily pin the blame on him or another bandwagoning player.
    How do you know what scum would do in that situation?

    Isn't the bolded scum mentality,? Why are you entertaining scum mentality? Are you scum, sir?

  27. ISO #77

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Some thoughts.

    1) The Lawyer has vaulted into my top tier town read for accurately reading the situation.

    3) Someone is going to need to de-escalate this light/voss situation unless they think something alignment indicative is going to come out.


    1.) That townread is quite the hot-take. I should mention that Huey, MM and myself have all pointed out how mechanically baseless Light's FOS was; So you can add the three of us to your town-core as well.

    3.) Why wouldn't something alignment indicative come out of it? Unless you wanted to be townread and portray this as a TvT as scum of course. Not saying you are but, consider the board state:

    We have you and MM pushing on Light while Huey and myself push on SB16. This is a fantastic status quo for reads.

  28. ISO #78

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    How do you know what scum would do in that situation?

    Isn't the bolded scum mentality,? Why are you entertaining scum mentality? Are you scum, sir?
    Recognizing scum patterns and pointing them out doesn't make me scum. But I do think I'm a pretty good scum player, I'm thorough. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    Not considering coordination between two scum sounds like misguided scum-hunting, Lawyer.

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  32. ISO #82

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Yeah man, I'm already cooking up a contrived 50-page-circular-argument with some random player to get them lynched and pass the time.
    By the way, did you just slip and say you're an Actress?

    Sent from Magoroth's iPhone using Efetalk
    You Have To Talk Like This For That
    I Like Ice Cream

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    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Is that a typo?

    What do you think of Voss' low posting style?
    NAI

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I keep threatening to low post in these, but I'm actually going to do it this game. I won't post more than once an hour.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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  39. ISO #89

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Okay so you want to thunderdome.

    With this post, you're making it sound like you're investigating something, and that I know you know I'm scum and now I'm "running away". Or in other words, bad scum painting and filler.

    -vote Light_yagami
    standard light play

    With that said he is always scum so id vote him but I am currently preoccupied
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    calling it here and now at least one scum in Yagami/Frinckles
    I Assure U The Only Role I Know Is Mine... The Only Role I Trust Is Mine.. And I Dont Know Frinckles Isnt Playing His Scum Game Normally He Would Instantly Wanna Thunder Dome Someone..

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    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    The Fact You Are Trying To Discourage Scum Hunting.. Is A Scum Tell In My Book.. Man U Keep Slipping Up..
    I will tunnel the hell out of this.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  45. ISO #95

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Okay so you want to thunderdome.

    With this post, you're making it sound like you're investigating something, and that I know you know I'm scum and now I'm "running away". Or in other words, bad scum painting and filler.

    -vote Light_yagami
    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    if anyone calls this a slip and feeds light's "scum hunting" I will also vote you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    The Fact You Are Trying To Discourage Scum Hunting.. Is A Scum Tell In My Book.. Man U Keep Slipping Up..
    posts for context.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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  47. ISO #97

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Ah here's some content.

    Me, creator of the scum library see the scum suffering more than 24 hours in. I feel for them. Subtle moves or no moves. I've decided to take it upon myself to this time invent the 'Town Business-Card.' Reference this when needed. Beware of book thieves.

    Now, I must confess I wish there was more to tug on day one. Not in the scumpainty way, but simply because there are about three people contributing content to this thread. I suppose we have 20ish hours remaining and I'll keep my ear to the ground but here are my current town to not town (descending) votes.

    Frinckles - T Its ya boi.
    Light - T Trust me on this one fam.
    Efe - T You legit have to be scum to not townread him.
    Huey - Probably T. Thoughts are real, reactions eh.
    Lawyer - Null read, I enjoy every moment we spend together.
    Voss - Literally digging himself.. somewhere.
    MM - Kinda scummy. Ideas are legit, origins are not.
    SB16 - Random BW with nothing better to do. Dont worry fam, I ain't tunneling this game.

  48. ISO #98

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    I'm having a difficult time trying to read you.

    Now I wanna know. Do you have a solid theory about Voss and Huey? Or did you just wake up wanting to lynch them two
    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    Some thoughts.

    1) The Lawyer has vaulted into my top tier town read for accurately reading the situation.

    2) I would totally hammer early if I thought i was 99.99% + right. Sometimes days just need to end. But if I'm wrong, I'd probably roll over and die.

    3) Someone is going to need to de-escalate this light/voss situation unless they think something alignment indicative is going to come out.

    4) MM, are you playing your meta, or were you trying to change it?
    1) Are you talking about the post above, Voss? Even though it is funny and accurate, it's not towny to read a situation correctly; scums have all the info they want to read situations correctly, at least on D1. I agree that the post is towny given the circumstances, but for another reason that I will detail further later in this post.

    2) Ending a day early is nearly never good when there is more than one scum left, even if the guy you want to hammer is literally confirmed scum by public host announcement. The interactions you get are still meaningful, and the time to scum hunt further or even plan your night actions further is very valuable.
    That being said, given how everyone here behaves, I concede that most people would probably hammer... even though it would doom us. It doesn't make it a good thing, but it's true lol.

    3) Why do you want the first interesting situation of the game to be de-escalated? It's obvious that something AI is going to come out of this at some point. Else, we can go back to shitposting

    4) Changing it, as I had announced some time ago (I think it was in huey's signup thread). And here I will explain point #1 : I am changing my style to focus on intent. Light's intent is unlikely to be a townie's right now. What Frinckles is calling a "reaction test" is just... saying things that do not make sense, while pushing for a target seriously. As for the Lawyer's post, the intent from a scum with Light PoV would be pretty much non-existant, since there's no benefit from hard discrediting your scummate without even pushing him for "bus towncred". The intent from a scum with someone who is not Light would be strange for several reasons, firstly because I don't think Light is town, and secondly because there is little risk in participating to Light's train right now and look useful. If I were scum and that Light were town, I'd probably get on the train without analyzing interactions around him, and get a free lynch + a town-looking style. On the other hand, from a Town PoV, the intent behind the post is just to outline that nonsense is being said, without trying to get anything out of it to look towny or to push lynches. It's more like a genuine view given on the situation. And that is why the post is towny IMO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    If I was convinced somebody was scum, I wouldnt slowroll the day. I'd hammer.

    Accidentally mislynching isn't a gamethrow and your counterargument omits that the scum need only make one reasonably convincing argument to push said hammer.

    While they haven't yet, we don't know if they will and there are only 5 voted to lynch.
    Well, since there is a massive opposition to my point saying that people would actually hammer... it kinda defeats my point lol. Do you think Light would really push THIS early into D1 and actually hope for a hammer in the first 24 hours?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  49. ISO #99

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    But I'll add one more aside: The remaining non-voters are intriguing. As of this post that's: Efe & Lawyer.

    Given one is a town read and the other is a null, it's possible scum has tried playing its hand already. This is a rather small setup.

    I enjoy that. I cant wait to see thier talking points tomorrow.

  50. ISO #100

    Re: S-FM Standoff (8P)

    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Wow, observant.

    You definitely aren't scum this game.
    Are you trolling lol?
    Quote Originally Posted by Frinckles View Post
    Really, why?

    Are you too pre-occupied to see that Light, Huey and Efe and myself are all on the same team?
    What did Light say to become miraculously towny in your eyes, while he was just nullread-worthy not so long ago? The "you'd thunderdome as scum" post? That's pretty thin...
    What about Huey and Efe?

    I'm sorry, but there can't be 4 scums
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

 

 

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