S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra

[Kenny]

Spoiler : cvote :

Light_Yagami,Frinckles,Stealthbomber16,DS,Efekannn 02,rumox,Voss,Magoroth,HueyTheLong,MarshmallowMars hall,Unknown1234,SkipDay,

[Kenny]

mostly my reads as observer. It would've been very sheepable from literally every other slot imo. You may still sheep me even if you want.

[Magoroth]

Interesting what about this TPR shitfest tho


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[Huey The Long]

So im gonna get some kip, ill be here before EoD, dont write too much please lads or else im gonna have to read a bunch.

[Kenny]

For a situation in which I would've replaced MM some hours ago when he was inactive, I had a thought of retracting that flounder's crier claim and switching to citizen.
Considering I'm not MM and now know that Unknown is legit, I'd guess MM is scum. Just to outline my current standing on this one situation.

[Kenny]

Regardless, lynching anyone within this TPR fest would objectively be terrible play.
We solve ourselves at night most likely. 2 Tracker claims, 1 cop and 1 doctor, there's 0 chance noone of us is gonna die and there then there's definitely gonna be a chain of checks to verify I'd hope.

[Voss]

Spoiler : cvote :

Efekannn02,Light_Yagami,Frinckles,MarshmallowMarsh all,HueyTheLong,Kenny,Magoroth,rumox,DS,Stealthbom ber16,SkipDay,Voss,

updating to replace unknown with kenny

[Kenny]

Within this group of 4 players we have 3 TPR claims that are very likely correct. Purely statistically that puts us at a 3/4 chance to not just hit town, but to hit a town role that would've been able to verify itself at night.
And by us I mean not myself for the record lol. It's a 1/3 chance for my guess to be the scum here, instead of 1/4.

[rumox]

Spoiler : cvote :

Light_Yagami,Efekannn02,Frinckles,DS,Stealthbomber 16,MarshmallowMarshall,Kenny,Voss,Magoroth,HueyThe Long,rumox,SkipDay,

Kenny inclusion

[rumox]

Within this group of 4 players we have 3 TPR claims that are very likely correct. Purely statistically that puts us at a 3/4 chance to not just hit town, but to hit a town role that would've been able to verify itself at night.
And by us I mean not myself for the record lol. It's a 1/3 chance for my guess to be the scum here, instead of 1/4.

This is why I have Frinckles low. He seems pretty keen on taking a huge risk with our TPR.

[Voss]

This is why I have Frinckles low. He seems pretty keen on taking a huge risk with our TPR.

that makes him scum, not town.

[Kenny]

Now that means today's lynch should be always be between the independantly scummy citizens.
I'm down for any train between Yagami, Frinckles, DS or stealth.
Yagami I have the sk read on, Frinckles seems to be pushing scum agenda with his posts from what I've seen. DS is passive and not in the least bit living up to what I'd expect from a player with his reputation. Stealth iirc hasn't pointed out Yagami's behavior and coasted along many times today. I believe he's a player who knows how to read Yagami, so I'm scumreading him for not doing this. I'm mainly anchoring this on my one game I've had with stealth in Agumon's revenge. We were the 2 cultists and he very well explained how Yagami was arso in that game.

[Voss]

I like Kenny.

also, kenny, why not include efe in that pool?

[Kenny]

I like Kenny.

also, kenny, why not include efe in that pool?

I didn't see anything I find scummy from him yet. He should be in that pool tho, yes.

[Voss]

I think he's trying too hard to be his trolly self, and kind of was slipping when he apologized for claiming TPR.

[Frinckles]

would you mind telling me how you went from huey is #2 most town to, we can only execute huey or mm?

I dont understand that one Voss.

[Voss]

Sorry for lack of activity yesterday anyway, my line of thinking:

In this setup there is either an Actress OR Framer.

Blink was an Actress in every scenario.

Mechanically there are 3 TPR.

List of most likely scenario to least likely--


-Unknown is confirmed scum, he has a suspicious check on him from a cop. Claiming the he was framed directly conflicts with the fact that Blink was an actress. Unknown was pushing for Blink constantly while Blink's 'Townread' on Unknown shifted to a scumread over the course of the day. I didn't even see the 'tracker' check. If someone wants to point me to that I'd appreciate it. I highly doubt this was a mafia v mafia scenario. Unknown is the SK.

-MM is not a power role. When I hear "I'm a TPR but I'm not going to tell you which one" it sounds like somebody inferring "You'll know which one I am soon enough." The most basic example of this would be Vigilante. We need his input. Claiming like that and then not appearing D2 is scummy.

-Magoroth claims that he healed Blink but he was attacked twice. From my point of view this implies that either Magoroth is lying scum, Mafia no-killed, Mafia attacked their own actress (if that's allowed.) For the record, I don't scumread Magoroth; He's been gamesolving although his votes have been sheepish.. and that vig shit was really dumb. Then again half the game scumread Rumox over a silly rxn so, whatever.

-Huey's check is a lie. He should have participated more D1 but it's probably good that he flew under the radar for the most part. Huey is probably not lying about his check and the Unknown v Blinkskater relationship makes sense in context. Compare Blinkskater's rhetoric to Huey's you can see the difference between someone acknowledging his possible demise and someone running towards it.

Spoiler : cvote :

Unknown1234,MarshmallowMarshall,Efekannn02,Clank,L ight_Yagami,DS,Magoroth,rumox,Stealthbomber16,Huey TheLong,Frinckles,SkipDay,

1 Mafia down, 1 SK down.

Here, you have Frinkles as your #1 town.

Well yeah, I was posting that to you. ^^ Glad you're ISOing me.

Mesk was contributing nothing which is why she was probably high on the lynch list consensus. As much as I would have preferred Blink be lynched, I think I may have been making a mistake because mechanically things aren't adding up**.

We have 4 TPR.

Unknown's check is confirmed via Magoroth. Scum wouldn't double fake claim when it's not MYLO so that seems like a believable circumstance. Though it's possible this is SvS.

Huey + MM are the two TPR I'm considering for a lynch. I don't see lynching outside of them being beneficial -- again, we're not at MYLO. Reason being is that we have nothing tangible to get from them so far except reads.

**: Assuming I was wrong.

Here, you have him as your #1/2 scum.

What made you change your mind?

[Frinckles]

Here, you have Frinkles as your #1 town.



Here, you have him as your #1/2 scum.

What made you change your mind?

If you're talking about unknown itd that's mechanics related and I highlighted it with an asterisk.

[Kenny]

Well now I've read the 100 posts I've been missing before too. Turns out I didn't change the gamestate and Voss already did all that work together with rumox. This is good.

[Voss]

Sorry for lack of activity yesterday anyway, my line of thinking:

In this setup there is either an Actress OR Framer.

Blink was an Actress in every scenario.

Mechanically there are 3 TPR.

List of most likely scenario to least likely--


-Unknown is confirmed scum, he has a suspicious check on him from a cop. Claiming the he was framed directly conflicts with the fact that Blink was an actress. Unknown was pushing for Blink constantly while Blink's 'Townread' on Unknown shifted to a scumread over the course of the day. I didn't even see the 'tracker' check. If someone wants to point me to that I'd appreciate it. I highly doubt this was a mafia v mafia scenario. Unknown is the SK.

-MM is not a power role. When I hear "I'm a TPR but I'm not going to tell you which one" it sounds like somebody inferring "You'll know which one I am soon enough." The most basic example of this would be Vigilante. We need his input. Claiming like that and then not appearing D2 is scummy.

-Magoroth claims that he healed Blink but he was attacked twice. From my point of view this implies that either Magoroth is lying scum, Mafia no-killed, Mafia attacked their own actress (if that's allowed.) For the record, I don't scumread Magoroth; He's been gamesolving although his votes have been sheepish.. and that vig shit was really dumb. Then again half the game scumread Rumox over a silly rxn so, whatever.

-Huey's check is a lie. He should have participated more D1 but it's probably good that he flew under the radar for the most part. Huey is probably not lying about his check and the Unknown v Blinkskater relationship makes sense in context. Compare Blinkskater's rhetoric to Huey's you can see the difference between someone acknowledging his possible demise and someone running towards it.

Spoiler : cvote :

Unknown1234,MarshmallowMarshall,Efekannn02,Clank,L ight_Yagami,DS,Magoroth,rumox,Stealthbomber16,Huey TheLong,Frinckles,SkipDay,

1 Mafia down, 1 SK down.

Here, you have HUEY as your #1 town.

Well yeah, I was posting that to you. ^^ Glad you're ISOing me.

Mesk was contributing nothing which is why she was probably high on the lynch list consensus. As much as I would have preferred Blink be lynched, I think I may have been making a mistake because mechanically things aren't adding up**.

We have 4 TPR.

Unknown's check is confirmed via Magoroth. Scum wouldn't double fake claim when it's not MYLO so that seems like a believable circumstance. Though it's possible this is SvS.

Huey + MM are the two TPR I'm considering for a lynch. I don't see lynching outside of them being beneficial -- again, we're not at MYLO. Reason being is that we have nothing tangible to get from them so far except reads.

**: Assuming I was wrong.

Here, you have him as your #1/2 scum.

What made you change your mind?