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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    So to be clear, I’m scum because I haven’t claimed scum enough times so far?
    Yes.



    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    -vote Blinkstorteddd02


    Your gigantic post had zero content...
    Zero content? It has so much content that instead of releasing extended editions later they are releasing edited versions. There was a debate about even breaking it up into 2 movies it has so much content.

    but, that is where im at in the game right now. if any of that is wrong or disputed then highlight it and let me know.

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by NoctiZ View Post
    You're projecting. I never outright said MM is scum

    Y'all don't seem to realize but all I did was put my vote on MM to force some talk about why he felt the need to TPR hunt, in this case specifically regarding Stealth. Stealth is doing his own kind of gambit by RPing the way he is where he may or may not be crumbing hints. Talking about it is, you know, necessary in a way but it's also contraproductive to whatever he himself is trying to do. What we can discuss is whether we think Stealth is scummy or not by playing the way he is, whatever. MMs big first post on Stealth however felt really forced to me. Not genuine in his attempt to try and contribute to town winning, all he cared about in my opinion was establishing his position as someone who's trying to make himself seem like a valued player.

    Now, I really didn't wanna do this but some people really wanna hear details on why or how I agree with the conclusions of that post themselves. I'll go through it:


    True, but not what'll happen. In the case that Stealth is Hunter, he might still not be protected since there is no real way to confirm him and he'd have to gather trust first to make someone heal him. At the very least we'd have to wait until he decides to shoot someone and even then, how can we be sure that he is the Hunter that took the shot and not someone else lying? Mag already said we won't know details of who killed who. That means claiming Hunter as Hunter is a huge gambit and I don't ever see that happening.


    That is very true, but you're already discussing every other point, making your own point quite moot.


    Only if he'd actually insist on the Hunter claim in the case of a counter claim. Which, firstly I don't think we will get a counter claim any time soon and secondly, Stealth wouldn't insist on being Hunter in case he actually lied about it, no matter if he's a faking town Citizen or scum.


    Well I'm glad you can say that so confidently this early into this game.



    You're really not leaving a lot of WIFOM open after a post like that and discussing night actions and trying to influence them like that is also really scummy. This is nearly open wolfing in my eyes and I'll leave it up to the reader to decide if it's too obvious to be scummy or if it's a misguided town member.


    All in all, it strikes me as a scummy post. Low-effort, no genuine conclusions IMO and very disruptive to town's success. Now, do I think MM is scum? I don't know. Apart from this he has been pretty active which is NAI but he created more discussion that way I guess. Is that enough to say he's not scum however? The resulting discussions from his activity haven't been very productive to further our knowledge or help us trying to figure out the game. I wouldn't feel bad about a MM lynch but I also see one or two other possibilities today, especially cause I know that in the current state of the game, active D1 players are very unlikely to get lynched tbh.
    I'm not sure how much you have played with MM, but this is his town-game. breaking apart posts, solving ect. as scum he is obviously careful with doing that lol BUT, as a neutral and no team to defend it is really easy to play in your town meta. so Virus is not out of the question.. I would just prefer to find mafia.

    These are what ping me as scum posts. This sounds like a careful marginalization and justification for a vote. It's like in the mod where they random vote some1, but then everyone starts voting them so they remove their random vote hoping people will stop.

    Although I do like this post, only reason im keeping my vote here right now is for reactions coming up on EoD.

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    This is pretty scummy. It acknowledged your scummy behavior, didn’t make any reasonable town POV explaining for why the scummy behavior, suggested you will continue the scummy behavior again.
    All around you my top scum read st this moment.


    Yagami has a town lean for me.
    Blink has a town lean for me for drunk posts and game theory. Distorted actually has scum equity currently with the awareness and acknowledgment of their meta play.
    Marshall has town lean for me, overall focus on game solvyness.
    NoctiZ has scum equity for casual discredit on Day one towards MM and overall passivity until prodded.
    DAMUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would say this is a pop-in and sheep vote, but you actually seem to have decent thread awareness... which is concerning that maybe you have been keeping up and just not posting... Towny post but, it's damus so im keeping you null >=O

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Well firstly there is no 'basically your saying' because i know what i am saying. I was making the point in reply to one i saw earlier about hitting a town with a day one vote and that hitting a town is no reason not to day one vote. I was not talking about every vote down to a LYLO position i was talking directly about the day one vote. What you have done here is thrown the Principle of Charity out the window and told me what im saying when it is not indeed what i am saying.

    As for the meta comment i find the analysis of my comment lacking. I said i personally dont like it in my original comment, MM and Blink brought up good points pertaining to the meta, points nobody has brought up in these types of FM games before and i have used meta irl but never found it useful in other fm mafias, it may be useful here in the future.

    Now pertaining to a vote.
    -vote ZergSoupYum


    Not only did Zerg sheep pretty much onto Noctiz, he holds a strong town read this early into the game which seems off to me, in no game i have played have i ever seen a strong town read on the first day which links to the buddying, scummy but that has been brought up by others so i have no need to speak on that. Zergs defense of MM not being the virus is what really makes me think he isnt town. He brushes off over-analysis as a town thing when that is clearly not true and i dont think has ever been true and the points that aamirus bring up pertaining to MM tryna line up people on Stealth is not a throwaway theory although i do consider it false given how MM has said that placing a Spiritualist on stealth is useless, i feel he wouldnt make such comment as a virus if he was tryna line it up, he would just hope it does occur that way.

    i wont vote Noctiz for i have no real read on him rn and i feel more strongly on Zerg being scum then MM at this point in time.


    -vote zergsoupyum

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by Huey The Long View Post
    Im relatively busy right now but i have a few comments to make after quickly reading over the situation.

    I noticed earlier discussion of the day 1 vote with the very new player, to me the day 1 vote is immensely useful and anybody who stands against the Day 1 vote (im looking at you Yagami with your skip vote) has some tinge of scum to them. With the day 1 vote it allows us to glean a lot of useful info both pre and post vote. Pre vote it is good pressure, when you have votes piling up on somebody they tend to shift their tone and actions which can indicate their alignment. Post vote it gives us the ability to better discern our position going into the second day. Yes we have a higher chance to hit a town player but only if we dont use day 1 effectively to try and discern the possible scum. In this setup in particular we have 2 chances to outright rid of a scum through vote (the 2 non godfather wolves) and 2 chances to find either the Alpha wolf or the virus on day 1. thats 4/13 or a 30% chance to get a scum with our first vote.

    Now if we do get a scum dead or identify a scum on day one with the vote that gives us a huge advantage as town. If we do kill a towns member with the vote then its not good, obviously we have lost a town member but it works to whittle down the number of players we have to identify allignment to and if it is a town then that chance to get a scum with a vote rises to 1/3rd or 33%.

    I saw Blink and MM speak about my talk on meta and i can see where you are coming from. In werewolf (Irl Mafia with cards and stuff) meta was used quite a lot and it made sense because you are all together but i dont know yall much so i will be looking at any use of meta with one eye closed at this point in time really.

    My only other comment is that i dont like the rp from Stealth, i feel this may just be myself but i dislike reading it and trying to discern it which may be the actual role of the roleplay to obstruct reading into stealth as well as we might be able to with normal speech, that combined with the claim which i spoke about earlier is not making stealth seem any less scummy to me at this moment in time,
    @Damus_Graves

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    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    @naz tallah has replaced AIVION.

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    where you at with the current state of things?
    Ill Be 100% Honest Here.. Im Lost Only PPL I Think Are Scum Are MM ZergSoupYum

    Thats What I Think At This Point.. Because Some Of These In Fact Most Havent Said Anything... Only Time Can Tell.. Over All So Basically I Guess I Have A Null Read On MafiaMenace Healta Milkjjh...

    What Do You Guys Think Of Aivion?

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Ill Be 100% Honest Here.. Im Lost Only PPL I Think Are Scum Are MM ZergSoupYum

    Thats What I Think At This Point.. Because Some Of These In Fact Most Havent Said Anything... Only Time Can Tell.. Over All So Basically I Guess I Have A Null Read On MafiaMenace Healta Milkjjh...

    What Do You Guys Think Of Aivion?
    Okay I Mean Naz I Guess Now..

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Ill Be 100% Honest Here.. Im Lost Only PPL I Think Are Scum Are MM ZergSoupYum

    Thats What I Think At This Point.. Because Some Of These In Fact Most Havent Said Anything... Only Time Can Tell.. Over All So Basically I Guess I Have A Null Read On MafiaMenace Healta Milkjjh...

    What Do You Guys Think Of Aivion?
    ? Why am I not scum with MM?

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    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    @Voss has replaced Milkjjh

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Yeah i support day 1 lynch.

    To Blink, well i played a lot of werewolf irl. I have played a good bit of non forum epic mafia back in the day, my main forum mafia experience was Mafiascum a long time ago, like 2015/16 and i played it for a bit then. I wasn't really massive into it, at the time i was playing sc2 mafia aswell and i faded away. I saw this site a few times and i wanted to get into it but never had the time but its a lot freer nowadays so i can play.

    My thoughts on noctiz are not really that developed, i would need to read back through all his posts and get a better grasp of his positions. He is voting MM and MM is voting him from the earlier discussion about noctiz saying stealths claim is bs and then not backing it up. I normally would see a player backing up a point like that. generally he doesnt lean town or scum to me rn but thats before i have looked into him deeper.

    I would probably say i am a stronger town then scum, I have not played scum a lot in FM in the past though.

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    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by Blinkstorteddd02 View Post
    -vote naz
    where were you last night between midnight and 2am??? ANSWER!!! >=O
    prolly feeding kabob
    or training her to hunt squirrels

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    was gonna ask if this is the game im in but distorted h as s made that clear lol sup bb

    i was in bed last night😇
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    prolly feeding kabob
    or training her to hunt squirrels
    are u in the game lol? i haven't read anything yet
    Kabob has a hot spot and scratched off a spot on her cheek I'm worried sick about my baby😭😭😭😭😭😭
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    "Ah, some newcomers!"

    I turn to face them.

    "My name is Francis Patrón, a spirit hunter. I advise you to tread carefully. I am getting some bad impressions from some of the individuals in this town. There are spirits here. I believe the Marshall is not who he says he is."

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Moving Huey into town core status
    "You have not given much to this discussion. Your name is Damus, I believe? What are your thoughts on the current predicaments between the citizen NoctiZ and the Marshall? Why do you just sit back and ask questions? Do you have something to hide?" My eyes narrow so that I am squinting at Damus.
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    cant lynch noctiz cuz im sleeping w him irl soooo mm is the lynch today? someone give me the tldr on these trains so i can tldr that
    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    President Fielzanks walks up to his stage, preparing his n1 speech. In front of him, his two cronies MM and David stood. In front of him, his immaculately written n1 speech was prepared. 'Gentleman, what is the soul of capitalism?', he asked his small audience. 'Money?', MM guessed. 'Waifus?', David asked. 'No' Fielz replied, disappointed in his trash scumteam .
    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Naz would never forget the Chik-Fil-A Sauce

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by naz View Post
    cant lynch noctiz cuz im sleeping w him irl soooo mm is the lynch today? someone give me the tldr on these trains so i can tldr that
    "Upon learning that I am a spirit hunter, the Marshall has been utterly focused on that. As though he is frightened by my job. I believe that he is not a real Marshall. I doubt he even has a badge. The citizen NoctiZ shares my feelings. The one they call Zerg shares the Marshall's sentiments, but he seems much more genuine. I believe he is just misguided."

    I cock my head.

    "I don't believe we've met. I'm Francis Patrón. I've been hired to find the root of the spirit problem in this town."
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    @NightmareFrIEND7 has replaced MafiaMenace.

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Why are you so focused on NoctiZ vs Marshall?
    "I'll answer your question after you answer mine. I believe it's a courtesy?"
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    what is with the role play stealth. i'm not going to tell you how to play the game, but making it harder for me to follow along... booo

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    what is with the role play stealth. i'm not going to tell you how to play the game, but making it harder for me to follow along... booo
    Spoiler : not really relevant to game :
    am doing it to keep myself engaged in the game since ive had problems recently about losing steam in the game. decided to try something to keep myself going. also its fun to make fun of yagami. im doing my best to still contribute to the game through RP and ive not let it stop me from saying my thoughts so far and if i find that its making it difficult for me to express reads and such then ill drop it
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Oh, for those of you that post scum to town rankings, I'll be happy to post collective condorcet calculations on them.

    Huey - liked the intro about himself. Seems very townfillery
    Naz - idk, just a good feeling, ya know? I liked the noctiz joke
    Noctiz - honing in on that pr hunting ++
    Distorted - uh neutral, maybe towny
    MM - don’t want to kill him today, he always dies first.
    Light - skipping day, filler
    Stealthbomber16 - role play

    You all can expect pretty much this amount of contribution from me in this game, and not much more.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Spoiler : not really relevant to game :
    am doing it to keep myself engaged in the game since ive had problems recently about losing steam in the game. decided to try something to keep myself going. also its fun to make fun of yagami. im doing my best to still contribute to the game through RP and ive not let it stop me from saying my thoughts so far and if i find that its making it difficult for me to express reads and such then ill drop it
    disregard my placement of you in my "ranking" in post#296

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: S-FM 434 Spirits IIb

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    disregard my placement of you in my "ranking" in post#296
    Spoiler : more :
    in the end it will ultimately be my decision to drop it if i do so and i wont be doing so because people "dont feel like" reading through what i have to say or if they think it's dumb because it has not impeded my ability to communicate. but so far i've been enjoying it
    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Unfunny View Post
    How dare you send me another box of cereal
    Quote Originally Posted by ChannelMiner View Post
    Anyways I shot Brad due to my morbid fear of zombies.

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