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  1. ISO #101
    Ganelon
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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Do not discuss Miller Strategies.
    Why? Why do you think we shouldn't discuss it?

  2. ISO #102

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    This is a wolf post
    Why? I agree that it's not right, but I don't think it's scummy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Do not discuss Miller Strategies.
    Why???
    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Kinda Feels That Way To Me..
    WHY???? FINISH YOUR THOUGHTSSSS
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

  3. ISO #103

  4. ISO #104

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    why would we lynch the miller?
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    Why? Why do you think we shouldn't discuss it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Why? I agree that it's not right, but I don't think it's scummy.

    Why???


    WHY???? FINISH YOUR THOUGHTSSSS
    Why are we saying why so much? Why can't everyone just do it every time lol
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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  6. ISO #106
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    why would we lynch the miller?
    I would see Mafia claiming Miller

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  9. ISO #109
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Ganelon has throw shade at Town roles minimal twice today.
    It’s a prerequisite to lynching that slot because paranoia.
    Sure, buddy. Just like you've thrown shade at me by not reading my posts.

  10. ISO #110

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    I would see Mafia claiming Miller
    If there is no counterclaim, then miller is essentially confirmed town? If there is a counter then they can both be lynched and we'd have 1 mafia down. I guess then it would be 1 v 2 on d3? But if no counter why lynch?
    Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?

  11. ISO #111
    Ganelon
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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    If there is no counterclaim, then miller is essentially confirmed town? If there is a counter then they can both be lynched and we'd have 1 mafia down. I guess then it would be 1 v 2 on d3? But if no counter why lynch?
    humm, on second thought you are right. so yeah no counterclaim = no lynch
    unless there's a goon flip or something.

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  13. ISO #113

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    @Voss
    Can I vote to Lynch today?
    Any votes placed today will result in a vote toward electing the mayor. The mayor will decide what to do at EoD with the options being to eliminate someone, or skip the day.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

  14. ISO #114

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Why? I agree that it's not right, but I don't think it's scummy.

    Why???


    WHY???? FINISH YOUR THOUGHTSSSS
    Id Like To Point Out Previous Thoughts ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Thats Up To The Miller I Think..
    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    So, @Ganelon Are You Scum?
    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    I Call That A Substantial Problem Buddy.. Id Rather Be At 4 Bs 1 Tomorrow..
    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Of Course You Would Hoping For A Town Mis-Lynch To Give U That Edge Later.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    @Noz_Bugz I see you reading, you frozen bruh?
    Calls Out To Potential Scum Buddy Here..

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  21. ISO #121

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    True Miller does not NEED you to direct his actions and speculating it is only going to serve wolf.
    Shut up about it.
    But no. And here's why...
    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    I would see Mafia claiming Miller
    Mafia fake claiming would die for sure. It would put the situation like this on D3 :

    D1 miller dies, a sheriff dies, 3v2, then we lynch the mafioso, 2v1, then we are at LYLO
    OR D2 mafioso dies, then miller dies, still 2v1.

    Why is this good? Framer cannot frame himself as town. Once two mafiosi have flipped, we can be 100% certain that town checks are town; if Framer flips early, then we will know that any Mafioso flip is town. It puts town in a pretty good situation, because it removes the "counter" to the mass sheriff stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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  27. ISO #127
    Ganelon
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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    so, it seems the consensus is that we should mass claim tomorrow/on Lylo, correct?

  28. ISO #128
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    also Distorted still hasn't checked in KILL HIM, hes scum for sure

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  31. ISO #131
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Noz_Bugz View Post
    why is there an actual point to mass claiming in this setup?
    4 Sheriffs/1 Miller, if there's extra claims (which there will be) it's all a matter of seeing who's who

  32. ISO #132

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    so, it seems the consensus is that we should mass claim tomorrow/on Lylo, correct?
    IMO miller claim now as per what MM just outlined. If miller claims tomorrow i'd assume mafia would counterclaim (or claim first), and then we'd literally only have a 50% chance of lynching the right one on LYLO!
    Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?

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  35. ISO #135
    Ganelon
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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    So is that a no?
    @Her e

    Who wants to champion Ganelon and debate town or scum with me?
    I would have hoped Ganelon would do it but he didn’t. “You didn’t read my post”
    Poor response
    What do you want me to do, defend myself? I don't even know how or why I would do that, would much rather attack if that's what you're asking for.
    I think I can see the points you made about the Miller but even so, you must admit that Miller claiming, in the absence of soft-claims, would 100% be a confirmed town (and it's a weird anti-town role confirmed town, hence why I wanted them out of the picture).
    However, I really don't appreciate the fact that you have basically refused to answer WHY we shouldn't discuss Miller Strategies. I think we should always assume the Scum team will play optimally (in terms of night actions and etc) since they have a lot more info than we do, so I don't see the point to "not discussing Miller strategies".

  36. ISO #136

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    There is only 1 acceptable course of action for a Miller in this game.
    It’s brain zero WIFOM.
    There’s no counter play to it and anyone who spends more than 10 seconds thinking about it should know what that play is.
    Any further discussion muddles the significance of that play and i would view as an attempt to distract from
    The clearly optimal play a miller should do.

  37. ISO #137

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    What do you want me to do, defend myself? I don't even know how or why I would do that, would much rather attack if that's what you're asking for.
    I think I can see the points you made about the Miller but even so, you must admit that Miller claiming, in the absence of soft-claims, would 100% be a confirmed town (and it's a weird anti-town role confirmed town, hence why I wanted them out of the picture).
    However, I really don't appreciate the fact that you have basically refused to answer WHY we shouldn't discuss Miller Strategies. I think we should always assume the Scum team will play optimally (in terms of night actions and etc) since they have a lot more info than we do, so I don't see the point to "not discussing Miller strategies".
    I Dont Think Anyone Has Even Soft Claimed Miller..

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  39. ISO #139
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    I Dont Think Anyone Has Even Soft Claimed Miller..
    I meant hard-claim, not soft-claim (but same thing I guess?)
    whatever, no sheriff should claim Miller btw

  40. ISO #140

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    I meant hard-claim, not soft-claim (but same thing I guess?)
    whatever, no sheriff should claim Miller btw
    Thats My Point.. You Have Been Hunting Miller Since Game Start.. You Are Hunting The Miller And Were Hoping For An Easy Lynch On A Townie Today... Now Convince Me You Arent Scum...

  41. ISO #141
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Also. Bruh.
    You throw shade at a town slot. Like twice which you subtly acknowledged that you did.
    Why shade a town slot ? What benefit does that give Town?
    Because Miller is an anti-town role that flips scum.
    Granted, I was wrong to want them lynched no matter what :P but I still think they should reveal today, otherwise if Mafia claims Miller tomorrow (with Miller still alive) there's 50% chanceo f killing a town

    the ONLY benefit I see to NOT claiming Miller is getting oneself killed at night

  42. ISO #142

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    Because Miller is an anti-town role that flips scum.
    Granted, I was wrong to want them lynched no matter what :P but I still think they should reveal today, otherwise if Mafia claims Miller tomorrow (with Miller still alive) there's 50% chanceo f killing a town

    the ONLY benefit I see to NOT claiming Miller is getting oneself killed at night
    Naw Im Sure There Will be A Zero Percent Chance That Town Will Be Lynched Tomorrow.. If It Comes Down To A Miller Claim..

  43. ISO #143
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Thats My Point.. You Have Been Hunting Miller Since Game Start.. You Are Hunting The Miller And Were Hoping For An Easy Lynch On A Townie Today... Now Convince Me You Arent Scum...

    I hate defending myself, but finnnnne, I'll indulge you
    I'll admit I was wrong to want them lynched, I just saw "Miller" and thought "hey heres a slot that is detrimental to the towns success and behind whom the Mafia would hide if given the chance, why not just lynch them", and that was my thought process. not totally incorrect btw :P just that Miller should only be lynched if there's a counterclaim

  44. ISO #144

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post

    I hate defending myself, but finnnnne, I'll indulge you
    I'll admit I was wrong to want them lynched, I just saw "Miller" and thought "hey heres a slot that is detrimental to the towns success and behind whom the Mafia would hide if given the chance, why not just lynch them", and that was my thought process. not totally incorrect btw :P just that Miller should only be lynched if there's a counterclaim
    And Unlike You Im Not Thinking With A Scum Mind Set Depending On Who The Miller Is.. They Can And Should Strive To Be A Great Asset To The Town.. Given... That His Alignment Is Scum Aligned Even Though He/She Is Town.. Also Your Doing A Piss Poor Job Defending Yourself... Maybe You Should Try Some New Lines..

  45. ISO #145
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    And Unlike You Im Not Thinking With A Scum Mind Set Depending On Who The Miller Is.. They Can And Should Strive To Be A Great Asset To The Town.. Given... That His Alignment Is Scum Aligned Even Though He/She Is Town.. Also Your Doing A Piss Poor Job Defending Yourself... Maybe You Should Try Some New Lines..
    Well in that case I'm afraid I'm gonna have to disappoint you sir, I am done defending myself

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  47. ISO #147

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    Strategies. I think we should always assume the Scum team will play optimally (in terms of night actions and etc) since they have a lot more info than we do, so I don't see the point to "not discussing Miller strategies".
    bruh you once lynched me (that game I subbed in for PTB as a town escort) for ignoring one of your "DON'T DO THIS" warnings that didn't make any sense to me. I find it hard to believe you've swung around to my viewpoint on this and find Damus's view so strange when it's literally what you used to spam every game you were in.
    Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?

  48. ISO #148
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    bruh you once lynched me (that game I subbed in for PTB as a town escort) for ignoring one of your "DON'T DO THIS" warnings that didn't make any sense to me. I find it hard to believe you've swung around to my viewpoint on this and find Damus's view so strange when it's literally what you used to spam every game you were in.
    I hate it when people tell me not to do something without saying what that is, and also, it just so happens that I am at the other end of the barrel right now

  49. ISO #149
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    And I don’t find it strange, I find it annoying

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