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    MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Voss's millercop7 Setup

    Miller
    Sheriff
    Sheriff
    Sheriff
    Sheriff
    Framer
    Goon
    Spoiler : Town Faction :

    Town

    • The uninformed majority, these roles must eliminate all Mafia factions, the cult, and all evil neutrals
    • Must eliminate Mafia.

    Available Roles

    Miller
    • Looks evil to investigative actions.
    • Flips as evil.

    Sheriff
    • Investigate someone to determine if they are suspicious or not.

    Spoiler : Mafia Faction :

    Mafia

    • The informed minority, these roles must eliminate the Town, other Mafia factions, the cult and evil killing neutrals.
    • Has Night chat at night, including night 0.
    • Must eliminate Town.

    Available Abilities

    Night Kill
    • Kill a person at night. This may be submitted in alongside any other abilities.


    Available Roles

    Framer
    • Frame other people for murder, changing most investigation results on them. Can frame as town or mafia.

    Goon
    • A henchman of the mafia.


    Phase Length 48/24

    Starts on N0. Towns members may submit their preference for what their preferred vote system every night. They may choose one of:
    - Majority
    - Pluarlity
    - Pluarlity with Majority auto
    - Condorcet

    Secondary vote option for the vote systems. Regular or Mayor. Everyone may participate in this one. If they choose mayor, the players will instead vote to elect someone. At the end of the day, that person will choose to kill someone instead of the usual 'being voted out of the game'.




    Order of Operations
    -Votes received for vote system preference
    -Framer frames
    -Maf kill/sheriff check


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    9. Have Fun.
    Last edited by Voss; June 16th, 2019 at 09:08 AM.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Simple, yet fun idea.


    Is the Factional Kill seen as a full action? In other words, can a Mafia member perform the factional kill in addition to his own ability?

    If not, this leads to a suggestion: Replacing the Godfather with another Framer, and making the Factional Kill a full action. This would allow for double-framing plays from Mafia early on in order to stop people from becoming confirmed town in the eyes of some people, while sacrificing a kill. If this happens, it would mean that the kill is not compulsory, though.


    How will the vote system be chosen, exactly? I get that it's by vote, but this needs more precisions concerning when it is chosen, if it lasts for all game or for a limited amount of time, which choices are available.

    What is the OoO? This is important, in order to know if framer's frame happens before or after sheriff's check.


    Edit: To clarify the 2 framers suggestion, when only one mafia member would be left standing, they could kill + frame at the same time.
    Last edited by Marshmallow Marshall; June 10th, 2019 at 10:09 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Mafia MAY be town.
    Spoiler : LOGIC :
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    ACCEPT THE ONE TRUE FAITH

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Mafia MAY be town.

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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Simple, yet fun idea.


    Is the Factional Kill seen as a full action? In other words, can a Mafia member perform the factional kill in addition to his own ability?

    If not, this leads to a suggestion: Replacing the Godfather with another Framer, and making the Factional Kill a full action. This would allow for double-framing plays from Mafia early on in order to stop people from becoming confirmed town in the eyes of some people, while sacrificing a kill. If this happens, it would mean that the kill is not compulsory, though.


    How will the vote system be chosen, exactly? I get that it's by vote, but this needs more precisions concerning when it is chosen, if it lasts for all game or for a limited amount of time, which choices are available.

    What is the OoO? This is important, in order to know if framer's frame happens before or after sheriff's check.
    I think I updated the post to answer these questions.

    Framer can submit the factional kill as well as frame.

    Vote system polls are open nightly.

    A frame that happens after the sheriff check is inherently useless =P. But that's my fault for not writing out the OoO.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Voss View Post
    I think I updated the post to answer these questions.

    Framer can submit the factional kill as well as frame.

    Vote system polls are open nightly.

    A frame that happens after the sheriff check is inherently useless =P. But that's my fault for not writing out the OoO.
    Yep, thanks!

    What happens if there's a tie in votes for the vote system?

    And yes I know it'd be quite... weak... lol.


    Concern that comes up now: Any Sheriff who get an innocent check knows that their target was town. Can't that lead to a whole "follow the confirmed townie" situation, especially if people vote for the Mayor option? My earlier suggestion with 2 framers could help with this, I think.
    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Mafia MAY be town.
    Spoiler : LOGIC :
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    ACCEPT THE ONE TRUE FAITH

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Mafia MAY be town.

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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Frame -> sheriff check

    Sheriff already checked them? Uselessframe
    It was more to have an OoO to complete the setup than to have that info, honestly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Mafia MAY be town.
    Spoiler : LOGIC :
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    ACCEPT THE ONE TRUE FAITH

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Mafia MAY be town.

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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by aamirus View Post
    Make The Godfather immune to detection (he looks like town)? Then none of the invest info is ever 100% confirmed.
    And quite meaningless, too. I think the invest info needs to remain meaningful, but Mafia needs to have more than just a frame and a kill. OR...


    Idea : Put an Insane Cop or one of its variants in the setup. That would make the info not confirmed, but still meaningful.


    Edit: Lol damus stop reading my mind
    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Mafia MAY be town.
    Spoiler : LOGIC :
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    ACCEPT THE ONE TRUE FAITH

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Mafia MAY be town.

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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    I'm going to allow framer to frame people as town.

    And going to let mafia discuss things in the N0. But no kills or checks.

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    With the Miller change (now flips as evil) and the N0 chat, I think this setup is balanced.

    One last question : Which "evil" role shows when the Miller is lynched? Please specify it in the setup, unless you want it to be hidden.


    Other than that, Approved. You may post signups as soon as you want to. @Voss
    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Mafia MAY be town.
    Spoiler : LOGIC :
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    ACCEPT THE ONE TRUE FAITH

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Mafia MAY be town.

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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    With the Miller change (now flips as evil) and the N0 chat, I think this setup is balanced.

    One last question : Which "evil" role shows when the Miller is lynched? Please specify it in the setup, unless you want it to be hidden.


    Other than that, Approved. You may post signups as soon as you want to. @Voss
    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    @Voss

    Before anything happened.
    Is the graveyard revealed with exact flips/alignments or are dead players listed as Town/Mafia
    Now who is in whose head

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    Re: MillerCop CHOOSE YOUR OWN Vote System

    Can't I just decide that at flip time? Is that bad juju? Maybe town always kills off town and the question is moot =P

    FM XVII: Bonney Jewelry (Journalist)
    FM XVIII: Kalou (Savage Godfather)
    FM XX: Joseph Bertrand (Marshall)
    FM XXI: USA (Escort)
    FM XV: Whiskey (Whore)

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