M-FM: Timmy Town

[Falling Foxes]

should we....test....the unkillableness??

-vote efekannn02

MUAHAHAHAHHAHAA

Why, though? Or is that your reason?

[AIVION]

Depends on if you really know all there was to know about your wife...

Yes, he stated he knew about other roles, I don't see your point? My point was he's claimed he knows potentially two roles and/or alignments, I don't see why that means he should know more than that. Basically he's already given us a lot of "information", why does that mean he is holding back on more info on other players?

I'm not saying that his info was good and that he doesn't have different info it's just this logic doesn't make sense to me.

My wife died to poison, my wife was last seen with Sean. 2 + 2 = ??

He's a demented killer and the fact he claims to know about other people's roles makes me thing he has connections, which seems Mafia-ish (even though it's possible he's a Serial Killer).

At this rate I don't see him flipping green at all. And again, I'm willing to risk my life on it.

[Falling Foxes]

For now. My rolecard has him as the murderer of my wife and he also killed his sister. He also slipped Night Immunity and lied about his name at first.

AKA: I'm 95% sure he'll flip a scum role at this point. I'm willing to risk my life on that.

Night Immunity hardly seemed like a slip, he was hammering that point in multiple times.

Lying about his name is a little scummy though.

My wife died to poison, my wife was last seen with Sean. 2 + 2 = ??

He's a demented killer and the fact he claims to know about other people's roles makes me thing he has connections, which seems Mafia-ish (even though it's possible he's a Serial Killer).

At this rate I don't see him flipping green at all. And again, I'm willing to risk my life on it.

Mafia aren't the only ones who know about people's roles.

I do think specifically knowing the executioner is something though.

Is Efe normally so recklessly open with info as scum?

[AIVION]

Night Immunity hardly seemed like a slip, he was hammering that point in multiple times.

Lying about his name is a little scummy though.



Mafia aren't the only ones who know about people's roles.

I do think specifically knowing the executioner is something though.

Is Efe normally so recklessly open with info as scum?

TBH I dunno. It feels sort of like he's trying to flaunt his info for a reason. Also I think the "Exe" is just defense against the fact he is a murderer and probably knows the guy who's wife he killed would be gunning for him LOL.

I dunno like, What would be Night Immune in your eyes? 9/10 the answer is a scum role.

And yes he was withholding his name at first, then when I drilled him (because I suspected him) he finally cracked.

[Falling Foxes]

TBH I dunno. It feels sort of like he's trying to flaunt his info for a reason. Also I think the "Exe" is just defense against the fact he is a murderer and probably knows the guy who's wife he killed would be gunning for him LOL.

I dunno like, What would be Night Immune in your eyes? 9/10 the answer is a scum role.

And yes he was withholding his name at first, then when I drilled him (because I suspected him) he finally cracked.

Wrong, look at the list.

Night immunity isn't something given to scum. Efe is always going to be town/neutral if he is telling the truth about his role.

[blinkskater]

I can see how acting anti-town can be beneficial though for town sometimes... so long as this isn't some dumb stunt that we all lynch a good person over.

I happen to agree with you here. I am known for pulling gambits like this tbh.

One time i was a townie and claimed neutral so that i could gain a fair and favourable position as an unbiast town leader. Believe it or not it actually worked amd i was voted in as the leader. Mind you i was just a simple citizen and not an actual neutral survivor like i had claimed.

Anywho Distorted being the real neutral and a big meanie. Said scum only fake claim as neutral blah blah blah.

Because i ended up coming clean to the town after i had garnerd that leader position. I said look guys I'm not really a Survivor I'm actually Town here and I wanted to make sure that a townie got this leadership position. Was it selfish yeah. Did it work yes. But the real neutral who was actually evil convinced everybody I was actually scum and got me a townie lymched for it.

So all in all in the end I guess I got the real neutral to out himself but a town myself got lynched in the process

[Fable]

My wife died to poison, my wife was last seen with Sean. 2 + 2 = ??

He's a demented killer and the fact he claims to know about other people's roles makes me thing he has connections, which seems Mafia-ish (even though it's possible he's a Serial Killer).

At this rate I don't see him flipping green at all. And again, I'm willing to risk my life on it.

And you think as a wolf he just willingly claims all this? Knowing the optics of it?

[AIVION]

Wrong, look at the list.

Night immunity isn't something given to scum. Efe is always going to be town/neutral if he is telling the truth about his role.

Wrong to you as well. The role list clearly states that "Immunities can be given to the mafia"

Also who knows if Mike honestly 100% followed the list? he merely said "possible roles" are on the list.

....hmmm. Do you know something about Sean Watts?

[AIVION]

And you think as a wolf he just willingly claims all this? Knowing the optics of it?

He never claimed to kill my wife, and that's something he's withholding.

Also yes I do lol. It's Efekannn (I know you don't really know him, but yeah).

[Efekannn02]

I didnt slip NI I claimed to be immortal

and also Sean Watts didnt kill your wife whoever she is

wait a second wtf

why the hell are the people as old as the end of the second world war or even sooner?

Anyway there is a Executioner who wants to frame me and I do not believe its AIVION

lets kill Distorted though he has to die

there is a second role besides me that cannot die btw

[Efekannn02]

He never claimed to kill my wife, and that's something he's withholding.

Also yes I do lol. It's Efekannn (I know you don't really know him, but yeah).

Im literally the guy who wins sometimes by openly claiming to be scum even when he is that scum

I didnt kill your wife and it doesnt say in the guidebook of mine and also who the hell is Carol?

[AIVION]

I didnt slip NI I claimed to be immortal

and also Sean Watts didnt kill your wife whoever she is

wait a second wtf

why the hell are the people as old as the end of the second world war or even sooner?

Anyway there is a Executioner who wants to frame me and I do not believe its AIVION

lets kill Distorted though he has to die

there is a second role besides me that cannot die btw

... Immortal?

I'm sorry but you claimed to be Sean Watts and I know he killed my wife...

Also why do you keep saying there's an Executioner? Frame you for what?

[AIVION]

Im literally the guy who wins sometimes by openly claiming to be scum even when he is that scum

I didnt kill your wife and it doesnt say in the guidebook of mine and also who the hell is Carol?

...your naivety is concerning me.

[Fable]

He never claimed to kill my wife, and that's something he's withholding.

Also yes I do lol. It's Efekannn (I know you don't really know him, but yeah).

1. You don't technically know that

2. I have no idea what "It's efekannn" means.

[AIVION]

1. You don't technically know that

2. I have no idea what "It's efekannn" means.

I don't?

Why.

[Falling Foxes]

Wrong to you as well. The role list clearly states that "Immunities can be given to the mafia"

Also who knows if Mike honestly 100% followed the list? he merely said "possible roles" are on the list.

....hmmm. Do you know something about Sean Watts?

Take him for his word here, he specifically states that.

I used roles from Cryptonics post
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...tion-Thread#19
So yes any role on there is a possibility. There will not be any new roles that are not listed there.

Immunities might be able to be given to scum but there is still a higher chance of it being something like bulletproof or armoursmith which are town roles. There are no scum roles specifically designed for immunities because that normally breaks the balance of games. Yes, scum have roles where their targets are immune, but not themselves. Godfather seems to be the only role that does, even then I am unclear if they can target themselves and the immunities are not specified in the role. Yes, there are neutral evil roles that can make vests but there are still more town roles that offer this. There is no reason to say that he is more likely to be scum.

[blinkskater]

But in the end town ended up trusting the neutral that CC'D me, over me the "claimed neutral" who came clean and said I was actually town pulling a gambit.

How ironic =O

[Efekannn02]

Wait AIVION are you

Gina Honey Davison?

I know your role now haha your plan wont work on me sry but dont worry I'll let you win when I/we already won

[Fable]

I don't?

Why.

"last person seen with" would just make the person the prime suspect you don't just assume it's them lol and I almost doubt it would be so straight forward and flavor gives away the setup so easily like that.

[Falling Foxes]

Anyway there is a Executioner who wants to frame me and I do not believe its AIVION

why not?

[Efekannn02]

Wait Why The Hell Do I Have Access To So Many Information About Other Peoples's Role Traits?

I actually realized there is a Executioner, a Night Immune role, and a other person who is either Mafia Armorsmith or Mafioso (David Wilson), and also the immortal god(not Godfather but me)

I have access to more information

[AIVION]

Take him for his word here, he specifically states that.



Immunities might be able to be given to scum but there is still a higher chance of it being something like bulletproof or armoursmith which are town roles. There are no scum roles specifically designed for immunities because that normally breaks the balance of games. Yes, scum have roles where their targets are immune, but not themselves. Godfather seems to be the only role that does, even then I am unclear if they can target themselves and the immunities are not specified in the role. Yes, there are neutral evil roles that can make vests but there are still more town roles that offer this. There is no reason to say that he is more likely to be scum.

His Night Immunity isn't the only factor to him being scum, I'm pretty sure I clearly stated that.

Also as true as that is, Do you think a "bulletproof" or a "Armoursmith" are cold blooded murderers?

[AIVION]

Wait AIVION are you

Gina Honey Davison?

I know your role now haha your plan wont work on me sry but dont worry I'll let you win when I/we already won

Lol what? xD

[Efekannn02]

why not?

cause it feels forced and also I suspect him for being someone else whose role I know (Gina Honey Davison has a cute role tbh)

you wont know what role that it might be cause I wont give more details

[AIVION]

"last person seen with" would just make the person the prime suspect you don't just assume it's them lol and I almost doubt it would be so straight forward and flavor gives away the setup so easily like that.

As In "I MY CHARACTER" saw him. So therefore I know he did it... lol.

Are you defending Sean Watts?

[Falling Foxes]

His Night Immunity isn't the only factor to him being scum, I'm pretty sure I clearly stated that.

Also as true as that is, Do you think a "bulletproof" or a "Armoursmith" are cold blooded murderers?

I don't think he's necessarily a murderer at all.

[Light_Yagami]

Its 2 Early For This Shit.. Who Here Woke Up This Morning Yawning?

[AIVION]

I don't think he's necessarily a murderer at all.

HE IS A CRAZY KILLER DAMNIT!

NO ONE BELIEVES ME WAAAH

[AIVION]

Its 2 Early For This Shit.. Who Here Woke Up This Morning Yawning?

I WOKE UP WITH A HEADACHE!

[Falling Foxes]

cause it feels forced and also I suspect him for being someone else whose role I know (Gina Honey Davison has a cute role tbh)

you wont know what role that it might be cause I wont give more details

I'm content with it so long as there is method to the madness...

[AIVION]

cause it feels forced and also I suspect him for being someone else whose role I know (Gina Honey Davison has a cute role tbh)

you wont know what role that it might be cause I wont give more details

Your a crazy person!

Honest!

[Light_Yagami]

*Gets The Fire Going In His Work Shop* Guess I Better Get Ta Work.

[Efekannn02]

wait Gina Honey Davison is permanentely NI (unless RP text hid something from me) David Wilson is either Mafia Armorsmith or a NI Mafioso
there is a unknown Executioner(of any kind) who might be anyone even the people mentioned above

and there is the immortal troll (me)

I think Gina Honey Davison can make me keep interacting with town when I die(from lynch) but that might be just false hopes from me

[Falling Foxes]

HE IS A CRAZY KILLER DAMNIT!

NO ONE BELIEVES ME WAAAH

So far it sounds like you don't have any proof, not even eye-witness and you are obsessive... I don't think I can trust your account here...

[AIVION]

wait Gina Honey Davison is permanentely NI (unless RP text hid something from me) David Wilson is either Mafia Armorsmith or a NI Mafioso
there is a unknown Executioner(of any kind) who might be anyone even the people mentioned above

and there is the immortal troll (me)

I think Gina Honey Davison can make me keep interacting with town when I die(from lynch) but that might be just false hopes from me

Why don't you just die then so you can prove it?

[Efekannn02]

I'm content with it so long as there is method to the madness...

I think I understand his plan I recommend not to care about it until atleast Day 3 or Day 4 when more becomes clear and more people die

[AIVION]

So far it sounds like you don't have any proof, not even eye-witness and you are obsessive... I don't think I can trust your account here...

I SAID I SAW HIM WITH MY WIFE! He gave her poison and she died in front of me!

He's a liar and he's obviously hiding something! Like a Serial Killer!

[Wiisp]

Sounds like efekann can be a poisoner, which can exist as town, 3p, or even mafia

I hate his 3p focus he can die

-vote efekannn02

[AIVION]

I think I understand his plan I recommend not to care about it until atleast Day 3 or Day 4 when more becomes clear and more people die

Sounds like you're deflecting me, and it sounds like GUILT TO ME!

[Efekannn02]

I refuse to lynch AIVION at all costs (maybe someday) but right now im gonna use my rng machine cause this shit is getting boring

time to play a bit on ps3

[Falling Foxes]

wait Gina Honey Davison is permanentely NI (unless RP text hid something from me) David Wilson is either Mafia Armorsmith or a NI Mafioso
there is a unknown Executioner(of any kind) who might be anyone even the people mentioned above

and there is the immortal troll (me)

I think Gina Honey Davison can make me keep interacting with town when I die(from lynch) but that might be just false hopes from me

You're a mess. Shoulda stayed with the original story, made more sense and made you look more towny. Are you claiming there are 3 NIs that you know of? What, did you all start up a vampire cult together?

[Wiisp]

Im trying to remove the fake information from my flavor, does anyone know a Todd?

[Efekannn02]

I SAID I SAW HIM WITH MY WIFE! He gave her poison and she died in front of me!

He's a liar and he's obviously hiding something! Like a Serial Killer!

wait was it at a restaurant?

it says I were in a Restaurant with a attractive individual but she got poisoned and the waiter(why do we wait for the waiter?) wants to murder me
maybe im wrong cause the Waiter was incredibly rude af

[Marshmallow Marshall]

wait no it doesn't say if that person was a guy or not but he/she/it had an ambiguous name, one of which could be either male\female. I was also NOT told if I was straight or not, just that I "identify as straight" (whatever that means)

Oh, just like me and probably most people lol.

-vote AIVION

Voting for the reasons of my FoS from yesterday.

Morning :P

[Efekannn02]

You're a mess. Shoulda stayed with the original story, made more sense and made you look more towny. Are you claiming there are 3 NIs that you know of? What, did you all start up a vampire cult together?

Gina Honey Davison is probably the Executioner plotting my death for insurance and David Wilson works for a shadowy organization and learned from Sean Watts how to make items to be night immune (but only Sean Watts knows how to make the upgraded version of that shit)

[Wiisp]

Oh, just like me and probably most people lol.

-vote AIVION

Voting for the reasons of my FoS from yesterday.

Morning :P

And what are those reasons again?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Yeah you seem to forget though I'm not anyone and have way more fun playing scum. I'm involved in everything everywhere when I'm scum, for me this is not a scam tell at all but trying to play more refined. Come on dude are you kidding me you were in the last game we just played right LOL. I actually don't like this here from distorted, he should know better than that.

There's a word to define "claiming to know blinkskater" that ancient Greeks used. Hubris.

You are usually jumping on Distorted like this as town... well I think lol...... so I'm giving you some to---- I MEAN not hanging you... yet...!!

[Falling Foxes]

I SAID I SAW HIM WITH MY WIFE! He gave her poison and she died in front of me!

He's a liar and he's obviously hiding something! Like a Serial Killer!

I think he's lying about Night Immunity now. Which I thought would be a very loud and bold thing to say to ward off any killers in the night which would indicate someone who doesn't have any allies.

[Efekannn02]

Sounds like you're deflecting me, and it sounds like GUILT TO ME!

im trying to protect you m8 cause I want the mafia dead and not help the Jester get lynched (not until atleast 2 of the mafs died)
or get lynched by exe because I can still be useful

I know its easy for me to get lynched or lynch others but not today im trying to prove myself that I am the better person here so stfu and let me play!

or maybe you just said the truth and someone was framing me afterall

[AIVION]

Im trying to remove the fake information from my flavor, does anyone know a Todd?

Doesn't sound familiar no.

wait was it at a restaurant?

it says I were in a Restaurant with a attractive individual but she got poisoned and the waiter(why do we wait for the waiter?) wants to murder me
maybe im wrong cause the Waiter was incredibly rude af

Nope, what do you even mean a restaurant? Why are you trying to deliberately confuse everything?

HIDING SOMETHING?!