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    S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    This thread will be used for announcements throughout the game without having to post into both game threads. Additionally, it contains most of the relevant information concerning setup. Further explanation of the special mechanics and possible roles can be found in the game thread.

    Setup: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...s-(13-Players)


    Spoiler : Rules + Information :

    Anti-Cheating Rules

    1. Do not have discussion about the game while still alive (or able to communicate with living players) outside of the game threads.
    2. You are expected to make at least 5 posts per thread each day cycle that have at least some relevance to the game. Host discretion may occur depending on the situation.
    3. Do not edit your posts.
    4. Do not post screenshots, especially showing your role card.
    5. Admins cannot use their mod powers to reveal information that would otherwise be unavailable.
    6. Admins cannot use their mod powers to reveal information that would otherwise be unavailable.
    7. Do not quote your role card word for word. Paraphrasing and giving other details is allowed.



    Role cards

    1. Role cards will contain a title, alignment, RP, abilities and a win condition. As mentioned above, giving information from your role card is allowed but quoting word for word is not.
    2. Uncommon or unique roles may appear within the setup as well as common roles receiving uncommon alignments.
    3. Roles with the same name may have variations in their abilities and restrictions (Ex: One cult leader might be limited to one conversion while another might get two conversions… if there were any cult leaders).
    4. Safeguards are in place to prevent using RP to gain an advantage. Players are still allowed to attempt to “RP solve” provided that they don’t break any of the other rules, though this is not recommended.
    5. The following roles will NOT exist in the setup:

    • Roles which must die to fulfill their win condition (ex: Jester)
    • Roles which can win with different opposing factions (ex: Survivor)
    • Roles that cause other players to change alignments (ex: Cult Leader)



    Day/night rules

    1. Lynches require a majority vote to occur. The thread is locked upon the required number of votes being received.
    2. Pre-convergence, day/night cycles will always be synchronized. Nights will not begin until both day threads are locked.
    3. The mafia has access to a factional kill which a member can execute IN ADDTION to any individual factions they may have.
    4. Discussion about one of the game threads from the other game thread IS PERMITTED.

    Death

    1. Prior to the convergence, roles and cause of death are omitted for dead players.
    2. Post convergence, roles and exact cause of death are revealed for dead players, including for players who had died prior to the convergence.
    3. Last wills are NOT ALLOWED (even though this shouldn’t be much of an issue pre-convergence)



    Convergence

    1. All threads (including those that are usually always open) will be closed at the convergence, except for the dedicated convergence thread.
    2. The convergence will end early if at any time one of the options has a majority of the possible votes.
    3. In the case of a tie, whichever option reached it’s final vote count first will win the tiebreaker.



    Questions
    1. Questions about the general game mechanics can be asked in the game thread, privately or in night chats.
    2. Specific questions about your role will only be answered privately.
    3. Questions about other peoples role cards or non-public information will not be answered.

    Etiquette (aka: very loosely enforced rules)

    1. Teal is my colour. Plox don’t take.
    2. While alive in both threads, plox try to spend roughly equal time between the two threads.
    3. If you are a high post-count player, plox don’t post more between the two threads then you would in a normal FM (If 100 posts/day is standard for you, aim for 50 posts/day per thread while alive in both realities).


    Spoiler : Vague Rolelist for both realities :
    Hidden Mafia
    Hidden Mafia

    HiddenAny
    HiddenAny
    HiddenAny


    Hidden Town
    Hidden Town
    Hidden Town
    Hidden Town
    Hidden Town
    Hidden Town
    Hidden Town
    Hidden Town



    Spoiler : Order of Operations :

    Order of Operations, unless otherwise specified in rolecard (stolen from Cryptonic):
    1. Roleblocking.
    2. Proactive Redirection (Ex. Witch)
    3. Reactive Redirection (Ex. Bus Driver)
    4. All Attacks.
    5. Heals.
    6. Vests.
    7. All Others.



    Spoiler : Citizen Role Card :

    Citizen
    Faction: Town


    RP: [Insert RP here. RP is unique to each player]


    Abilities: None

    Win Condition: Eliminate all players with an opposing win condition and have at least one town aligned member survive.

    Last edited by Auckmid; February 20th, 2019 at 03:10 PM.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    Night 0 will begin at this time.

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    Note that not all rolecards have been sent yet. Do not worry if you don't have one yet, provided that you receive one before the start of night 0.

    There are no night actions on night 0. It is simply a chance for people with night chats to meet with one another.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    The answers for all public questions will be given from here to make them easier to find.
    @Marshmallow Marshall


    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall
    Does roleplay have any gameplay relevance?


    The game is not meant to be "solved" using RP, so the short answer to your question is no. However, there is no rule against mentioning your RP, provided you paraphrase and don't quote word for word.

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    @Mike @Ganelon

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon
    what happens if you die in the "20 years ago" Reality?
    Quote Originally Posted by mike
    If i die here 20 years in my past will I die in the present?
    No. The RP of the threads has no bearing on the game mechanics. Dying in one reality does not affect your status in the other.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    24 hours have passed for day 1, 48 hours still remain.

    Everyone has checked in so no inactivity warning have been issued yet. However, prods may be given to low activity players going forward.

    Reminder that due to previously discussed events, Banshis will be pardoned for inactivity for the first half of day 1. If anyone else will have a short period of time where they will have reduced availability, please PM me.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    @Ganelon


    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon View Post
    what happens if the scum getlynched in one reality prior to the convergence?


    In the fringe case that a faction meets their win condition in a reality prior to the convergence, the game would still continue up to the convergence. If that reality becomes canon, the game would end immediately after the convergence with that faction declared victorious. If not, the game continues with the other reality.


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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    @Yayap


    Quote Originally Posted by Yayap View Post
    How does the convergence work, specifically, will there be a discussion thread with the voting or simple votes no talking? will we be able to see who voted what while the poll is still open or only after its closed? can people change their votes? How do you decide when to close the voting, is it first to majority?


    The convergence will begin after night 2 and before the start of day 3. It will last for 48 hours. Discussion will be allowed except from players who have already died in BOTH realities who will not be allowed to participate at all. Players alive in both realities get 2 votes, players alive in only one reality get 1 vote. As with a normal game thread, votes are public and discussion will be allowed.

    Originally, the thread was going to be set to close as soon as an option obtained a majority of the votes. However, due to site limitations, that may need to be modified and a manual vote count may have to be done instead. If this does end up being the case, the thread will go for the entire 48 hours and the vote count will be done at the end of the timer. A rules change will be made if this ends up being the case.


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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Auckmid View Post
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    The convergence will begin after night 2 and before the start of day 3. It will last for 48 hours. Discussion will be allowed except from players who have already died in BOTH realities who will not be allowed to participate at all. Players alive in both realities get 2 votes, players alive in only one reality get 1 vote. As with a normal game thread, votes are public and discussion will be allowed.

    Originally, the thread was going to be set to close as soon as an option obtained a majority of the votes. However, due to site limitations, that may need to be modified and a manual vote count may have to be done instead. If this does end up being the case, the thread will go for the entire 48 hours and the vote count will be done at the end of the timer. A rules change will be made if this ends up being the case.

    @Yayap

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Auckmid View Post
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    In the fringe case that a faction meets their win condition in a reality prior to the convergence, the game would still continue up to the convergence. If that reality becomes canon, the game would end immediately after the convergence with that faction declared victorious. If not, the game continues with the other reality.

    @Ganelon

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    @Ganelon


    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon
    are third-party factions (neutrals) possible?

    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganelon
    would you see it as gamethrowing if people who were Scum in one reality, but Town in the other, revealed themselves as scum and asked others to lynch them in that reality - and then proceeded to vote for the reality in which they were still alive at Convergence?

    This depends on the specific circumstances. However, revealing oneself as scum in a specific reality pre-convergence will almost always be extremely disadvantageous.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    Two hours remain before the start of day 2. Please submit your actions at least 15 minutes before the deadline.

    Additionally, to update the rules since it isn't stated: If you die in a reality, you will receive feedback for actions that targeted you which occurred earlier in the order of operations then the action that killed you. You will NOT receive feedback for actions that occurred at the same time or later in the order of operations then the action that killed you.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    @Marshmallow Marshall

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Is an Executioner role of that nature:

    It’s flavor. I’m hardlocked into winning with the faction that kills my enemy.


    Mafia night kill - win with them
    Lynch - win with town


    a possibility, or does it break the setup rules?


    Since this is ultimately a rolecard question, it ends up falling into this category....

    Quote Originally Posted by Auckmid
    Questions about other peoples role cards or non-public information will not be answered.

    I will not answer this question. However, if there is anything ambiguous about the rules, I am happy to clarify.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    @Mike

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike
    in off chance a player is Blackmailed if that persons Target is not lynched will they die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Auckmid
    Questions about other peoples role cards or non-public information will not be answered.


    No answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    can I invite cross realms to night chat?
    Quote Originally Posted by Auckmid
    Specific questions about your role will only be answered privately.
    No answer. If you have any questions about your own role card, please ask through PM.

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    Re: S-FM Converging Realities: Information + Announcement Thread

    22 hours still remain in day 1.

    Important notes:

    1) Even though a lynch has occurred already in the 20 Years ago game thread, night will not begin until either a lynch/skip majority is reached in present day or until the countdown has finished.

    2) The Lawyer has requested to be replaced. I am currently looking for someone to replace in for them for the start of night 2.

    3) Reminder: The convergence will occur before the start of day 3.

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