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    Re: Meta

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Good argument
    I agree.

    Though id say meta can play a minimal part in scum hunting, used to help confirm reads based on trend. However meta is mostly a trend thing, and thus cant be relevant in game as it is actively changing the trend

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    Re: Meta

    Yup, meta sucks. It should only really be used in a "fool-me-once..." sort of way.
    Because of meta, I can never trust Kenny again (or at least until I forget).

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Re: Meta

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    Yup, meta sucks. It should only really be used in a "fool-me-once..." sort of way.
    Because of meta, I can never trust Kenny again (or at least until I forget).
    This is the trend im meaning.

    This exact example is me to Mike courtesy of turnabout. Fucker will NEVER be confirmed town to me. He can be revealed mayor in a setup without a possible scum mayor and hell get some looks

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    Re: Meta

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    This is the trend im meaning.

    This exact example is me to Mike courtesy of turnabout. Fucker will NEVER be confirmed town to me. He can be revealed mayor in a setup without a possible scum mayor and hell get some looks
    There is a meta forming right now between you two and actions in game may give away your alignment. Depends on how you use it in game

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    Re: Meta

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    So Can Anyone Help Me Understand What Meta Is And How To Read It? It Would Help Me In Forum Games Maybe..
    It's just patterns you notice about players.
    Let's say you've played 7 games with Player X. In 5 of those games, Player X was very quiet. Then out of these 5 games, he was Citizen 4 times.
    Because of this, this might lead you to believe that if he is silent, Player X has a high chance of being Citizen.

    But the problem is that people understand their own meta and can play into it, ultimately fucking you over.

    That's why you should just pretend you're a Citizen in every single game you play. It's always advantageous.

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Re: Meta

    Meta is useful for scum hunting in some particular tells, but never as the sole basis of a case/read. If it's used as such, you need to think that your read might be 100% flawed. As crypt said it's a lot of "fool me once", and a way to get reads, too. I personally don't use meta as a way to predict night actions; thread analysis is often better for this purpose, and it's nearly always possible to do so.
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    I wanted to buy a kinder egg in usa. But apparently they arn't sold because they are too dangerous.
    So I bought two assault rifles instead.
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    Imagine this convo going down in real life
    “Alright Enzo come shoot my house up tonight, someone else will be there. I think. Most likely.”

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    Re: Meta

    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    What If A Player Really Doest Understand Their Own Meta Such As My Self.. If I Even Have One..
    IDK, I haven't seen you play much. Maybe someone else can kill you in on your meta.
    How often are you scum? It's basically seeing the difference in a player between Power Role vs Citizen, and Scum vs Town.

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Re: Meta

    If you want to use Meta to scumhunt, use it as a spotlight. Use it to direct yourself to examine said player in more depth, and form a more accurate read; Maybe pressure said Player harder in an attempt to get them to slip, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Re: Meta

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Meta is a tool best used for anticipating night actions. Meta is a tool that is wasted on scum hunting.
    Change my mind
    I dont like the question. Meta- In a basic way its ambiguous and touches on a bunch of areas while the question focus on two areas that are mutually exclusive.

    Can it be used for night action analysis? Yes
    Can it be used for scum hunting? Yes
    Is it better used on either side? Subjective

    Lets zero in. In a basic way meta hunting is identifying a players norm and drawing conclusions from what you perceive as deviations from their norm. This is a consistent factor weather you are looking to anticipate their actions or their alignment. The major factor to take into account is bias which meta hunting is more prone to than any other method of analysis (in my experience.)

    When done right on a basic level scum hunting or action analysis is built upon an axiomatic system of reasoning that draws back to basic and identifiable differences between the motives/information of the town and non-town. When done wrong its based upon decisions which can not be explained by the person making those decisions past vague conjectures.

    My personal belief is that any true read can fit this format:

    "I believe playerX is alignmentX because of patternX."
    "PatternX is indicative of alignmentX because of (Fundimental difference between town and scum)"

    Sadly 95% of 'Meta reads" are cop-outs that dodge and avoid this process while falling prey to massive amounts of bias. It has value for sure but is the tool of choice for the armature player for a reason.
    Last edited by Helz; December 24th, 2018 at 05:03 AM.

    You just cant look away...

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    Re: Meta

    I feel like on this site with the current player base the meta argument is mostly made either because people are too lazy to analyze posts or they simply don't know how. It's easier to use "X is Y because of my meta read" than to actually explain how this person is town or scum in the current game. For me that's the reason meta is thrown around a lot on here. And to be honest sometimes I use the same argument because it's easier to get along when you fit in rather than stick out like a nail.
    Quote Originally Posted by Efekannn02 View Post
    i scumreaded him because his posts were gay
    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    ah fuck.
    I HARDCLAIM MASON ASSASSIN.

 

 

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