Okay, so I am having a very hard time making anything of this thread...
The dominant topic throughout the day has been around character name/RP and arguments about whether everyone should reveal this information about themselves.
This is just a recent prominent example, but this sentiment has been followed by a lot of players throughout the recent part of the thread. While it is absolutely possible that RP may end up being beneficial to the town, the general point that Starbucks brought up earlier is an important one, which is that RP information may also end up benefiting scum. Unless anyone has any information that disproves this idea, no town member can make the absolute statement that revealing personal information will end up benefiting the majority.
Also, a couple of other things;
@Subway
Are you saying with this statement that due to the high likelihood of people with special win cons that trying to find scum using the traditional methods serves no purpose, or that you are so pro-town that anyone reading you as scum makes no sense?Originally Posted by Subway (in response to Taco Bell)
@Chick-fil-A
At the beginning of the day, you seemed quite taken aback when Dairy Queen revealed his RP name and seemed to be suggesting that it was a hasty decision...
However, later on, your attitude toward RP revealing seemed to change significantly so that you seemed far more in favor of it...
Is there anything that triggered this change of heart, or do you think that it is unfair to suggest that this in a flip in attitude?
Lastly, there is virtually no chance that there will be a lynch within 12 hours, seeing how no lynch trains have even started at this point. Even if one did start gaining some momentum, there isn't enough time to effectively analyze the responses of the person being trained. Therefore...
-unvote
I was quite surprised because names are important for me but he literally revealed himself in his first post.
However, in the second post I don't talk about revealing names but your RP background. Which is different in some way so I don't think you really can compare those two things.
Also, don't underestimate the power of turbo-lynching
The main reason we're not revealing background and names that easy (at least for me) is that there may be people interested on us.
Which could be good... or bad.
Spoiler : Chick-fil-A :
Chick-fil-A is obviously information hoarding. This syntax reads like open wolfing and TPR hunting. These posts I have quoted also read like Chick-fil-A is playing the middle ground. Also note that Chick-fil-A did not follow through with their promise of revealing more info about themselves once Dairy Queen did the same.
I believe everyone is keeping information to themselves. Also, Dairy Queen did not reveal good and nice information as I expected so I decided not to as well. Anyway, if I had to share information with anyone it would be DQ and only DQ. Sad thing I can't generate a private chat.
Also, you didn't introduce yourself.
Nice to meet you, Popeyes. Mind choosing a different avatar that is not an ugly mouse?
You never specified wanting "Good and Nice information". Additionally when you got the additional information you didn't express disappointment or approval and you certainly didn't prompt Dairy Queen for anything more.
What is your response to the second half of my post where I called you an open wolf and someone who TPR hunts?
Dominos
Chipotle
KFC
Burger King
Pizza Hut
Dairy Queen
Chick-fil-A
Papa Johns
Subway
Wendys
Jack in the Box
Starbucks
Popeyes
Taco Bell
McDonalds
Arbys
The orange have not even posted yet If i am not mistaken.
I believe that Starbucks vs Dairy Queen is a TvT matchup at the moment despite the way they seem to accuse eachother. I believe atleast one party has views that are actually different from the surface views that they are offering up. I will not be pursuing either of those today.
Who I do find a bit suspicious is Chipotle who readily hardclaimed citizen, or so he says. We'll see about the honesty of his claim at a later date but currently this is a little bit of an anti-town move in my books.
Regarding the RP and name reveals I see arguments for both sides. I believe in many cases the specific RP is less important than the names but in those other cases it'll be even more revealing than the name could ever be, revealing this readily might be heavily anti-town. This I say while thinking back to how Cryptonic's last setup went down.
Thus I'm choosing to reveal my name atleast. Milford Pusser, pleased to make your acquaintance.
Excuse me, what? There's a far cry between "I think this guy is acting scummy" and "This guy is literally openly a scum, acting obviously as a scum with no intent to hide". Open wolfing is more what Starbucks believed DQ was doing at the start. It takes an absurd amount of scum painting to try and apply that to Chick-fil-a's posts so far.
I agree with your progression here with CFA about how he seem's to be playing the middle ground. I believe I even mentioned something like that earlier with similar words. How ever I disagree with you on the syntax, I don't find it to be open wolfing because it seems there's more substance to his words then what appears on the outside.
Nice you meet you Mr. Pusser. I can think of a few possible reasons from a town perspective that would coordinate with Starbucks' actions. However I find them to be highly selfish and ANTI town in an overall mindset, which leads me to believe there were better ways to go about his "gambit" if he is actually town. Although if his reasoning , if he ever actually explains it aligns with what I'm currently thinking then I actually would be more inclined to town read him, but I don't think he'll ever explain.
I don't recall you properly introducing yourself, but you are fast to divulge information on other guests.
Ms. Throne and Mr. Pusser, you don't know of them OK, that's fine and dandy, but you seem to know who I am, and what you've said coexists with what I know so you seem to be telling the truth about what you know of me. It would be a curious thing to find out If you ring any bells in my head.
Ah, interesting. With you yourself being the performer who was here when day started, it would seem your info would be mostly about people who were here before the ball officially started...
It would be an intriguing line of questioning to see the lore behind why those people were here. Would you care to share what type of RP info you have about others, without revealing actual names?
While I do believe "role hunting" was meant more as "role at this party/lore for being here", I do concede that the information could be used for TPR hunting as well as scumhunting. I'm only disagreeing with the use of the term "open wolf" as it, to my understanding, basically means someone who has openly declared themselves scum while still playing to their win condition. Perhaps I'm wrong here, and "open wolf" is merely supposed to mean "Oh I think this action here is REALLY scummy". Please clarify the syntax for me so I can better understand your arguments.
Well, even at face value I don't find it to be TPR hunting because he's taking valuable names and valuable role play into consideration to try and solve the game, wolfs don't need to try and solve the game villagers do. His "middle ground" is what strikes me as odd but I can see town sided gambits there. Of course there could be scum sided ones also but that's not what i'm getting from him ATM.
Of course there are a few things he could say while explaining his actions that'd easily put him on my figurative shit-list but the way I'm reading into this it's enough to make me call you both town for now. I understand how he read a NE into your slot but I'm also seeing something else beyond this in your interactions as well as the things you've said so far afterwards that makes me currently think neither of you is scum.
In my mind open wolf is actions/words that are scum beneficial and not attempting to hide your intent
Town can't solve the game the same way scum can though. There'll always be a lot more uncertainty when town tries their hand and at the same time scum gets all the tools to peg the TPRs and remove important threats. Trying to solve the game like that is heavily anti-town. Just saying that's possible, not necessarily that this is what Chick-fil-A was doing.
BTW, Call me Jonah