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  1. #1

    Player Conduct

    Is there a particular reason why this site is still in the mindset that it is acceptable behavior to trash people in games?
    Im not sure why it has been deemed acceptable to tell people to shut up and sheep or to be intentionally abrasive to the way a person is playing.
    There needs to be a greater emphasis on targeting the caliber of a players post, and less shitting on a players character.

    As a playerbase there should be a standard of play that is held up. It shouldnt be acceptable to have a defense/response that just completely shit on character. Its a suffocating style of play and breeds resentment. We are here to enjoy these games and enjoy the plays that our playerbase gets creative with.

    You cannot respond to questions/pressure with
    "lol your fking dumb if you can even think thats whats happening. start following the game and learn to read."
    Don't instantly attack character. Learn to respond to pressure and learn how to defend yourself from accusations.
    When you dig into a players character then this usually escalates to a more serious, and disgusting, argument.
    it turns into these shitfests where people are just saying
    " you need to stop signing for these games, honestly your terrible. listen to everyone else and just walk away for now"
    Like, no one is going to want to play with you if all you can offer in a game is flat and aggressive style posts that degrade your fellow players.

  2. #2

    Re: Player Conduct

    I will be the first to admit I can get abrasive and should work on that. However i do my best to not let it build if i can. I try to criticize play, and even discuss betterment in game when applicable. I also go out of my way to apologize when i feel it's been felt as personal. I think it's okay to get a bit hot in a single game, but it should never matter past that game and often even the day.

    I carry no ill will about FM and I'd hope you dont either.

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  5. #5

    Re: Player Conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Is there a particular reason why this site is still in the mindset that it is acceptable behavior to trash people in games?
    Im not sure why it has been deemed acceptable to tell people to shut up and sheep or to be intentionally abrasive to the way a person is playing.
    There needs to be a greater emphasis on targeting the caliber of a players post, and less shitting on a players character.

    As a playerbase there should be a standard of play that is held up. It shouldnt be acceptable to have a defense/response that just completely shit on character. Its a suffocating style of play and breeds resentment. We are here to enjoy these games and enjoy the plays that our playerbase gets creative with.

    You cannot respond to questions/pressure with

    Don't instantly attack character. Learn to respond to pressure and learn how to defend yourself from accusations.
    When you dig into a players character then this usually escalates to a more serious, and disgusting, argument.
    it turns into these shitfests where people are just saying

    Like, no one is going to want to play with you if all you can offer in a game is flat and aggressive style posts that degrade your fellow players.
    Well Said
    I play way too much Pokemon.

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  7. #7

    Re: Player Conduct

    Yes, I 100% agree that this is an issue and felt the need to make such a thread too.

    The TL;DR of Damus' post is basically: Don't attack people personally.

    Attack their play, their reads if you want to, but if you notice you start calling the person shitty or things like that, step back, log off for a bit if it's needed, things like that. Another good indicator of it is if your fellow players are starting to tell you to calm down. We play this game to win, yes, but also to have fun: this means that aggressive or toxic behavior is very harmful, just like gamethrow is. Even if you want to use toxicity as a strategy, it doesn't make the game fun for anyone.

    Also yzb is right: it's not because you hate someone in-game that this person is not nice out of the game.


    Have fun everyone
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    I wanted to buy a kinder egg in usa. But apparently they arn't sold because they are too dangerous.
    So I bought two assault rifles instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    ACCEPT THE ONE TRUE FAITH

  8. #8

    Re: Player Conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by rumox View Post
    STFU
    the art of breaking a serious thread with the exact thing it denounces lol
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    I wanted to buy a kinder egg in usa. But apparently they arn't sold because they are too dangerous.
    So I bought two assault rifles instead.
    Spoiler : LOGIC :
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    ACCEPT THE ONE TRUE FAITH

  9. #9

    Re: Player Conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    the art of breaking a serious thread with the exact thing it denounces lol
    thatsthejoke

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

  10. #10

    Re: Player Conduct

    I strongly think this needs to be addressed by the players. It's pretty bad that I have to accept player bashing as a standard defense because the meta makes it acceptable. As an annalist type player, that kind of defense does nothing to help the game and if anything - I suspect that person even more but know that I can't do anything about it.

    Seriously, sometimes I wish I were vigilante / any town killing role just to policy kill these players even though they may be town - to try to destroy the meta that this is "ok".

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  11. #11

    Re: Player Conduct

    it is sad that it's the meta here, but it's inevitable. it's always that the majority of the player base plays Sc2Mafia before forum mafia. due to the time limitations in Sc2Mafia, the players need to be aggressive in day chat to accomplish stuff; it doesn't translate over to fm well.

    I think players really need to focus on making fewer and more meaningful posts. take time before posting, and really consider what they're going to say. 99% of the insults are just knee jerk reactions in a several hundred post day. I bet the day would be a lot more cordial if people didn't spam threads lol. i don't think this will ever happen, but something to consider.

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

  12. #12

    Re: Player Conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    I think players really need to focus on making fewer and more meaningful posts. take time before posting, and really consider what they're going to say. 99% of the insults are just knee jerk reactions in a several hundred post day. I bet the day would be a lot more cordial if people didn't spam threads lol. i don't think this will ever happen, but something to consider.
    "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Cryptonic again."

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  13. #13

    Re: Player Conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Damus_Graves View Post
    Is there a particular reason why this site is still in the mindset that it is acceptable behavior to trash people in games?
    Im not sure why it has been deemed acceptable to tell people to shut up and sheep or to be intentionally abrasive to the way a person is playing.
    There needs to be a greater emphasis on targeting the caliber of a players post, and less shitting on a players character.

    As a playerbase there should be a standard of play that is held up. It shouldnt be acceptable to have a defense/response that just completely shit on character. Its a suffocating style of play and breeds resentment. We are here to enjoy these games and enjoy the plays that our playerbase gets creative with.

    You cannot respond to questions/pressure with

    Don't instantly attack character. Learn to respond to pressure and learn how to defend yourself from accusations.
    When you dig into a players character then this usually escalates to a more serious, and disgusting, argument.
    it turns into these shitfests where people are just saying

    Like, no one is going to want to play with you if all you can offer in a game is flat and aggressive style posts that degrade your fellow players.
    You can be staff again if you want bro, you were always good at making rules.
    I love oops

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  14. #14

    Re: Player Conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    You can be staff again if you want bro, you were always good at making rules.
    DOOO ITT!~

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  15. #15

    Re: Player Conduct

    lotta gay ass MFers in this thread lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Hybrid View Post
    Tbh if the people you are complaining about has 10 brain cells, you d only one 15 just because you are thinkinf they d read it and just because you are thinking that mod mafia always have a stable and the same thinking pattern going on. This thing is compeltly useless and not worth reading. If you complain losing the game then just stop playing because you could always mak3 town believe in yourself. Stop blaming the other players and calşing them idiots and blame yourself for your own lose for once....

  16. #16

    Re: Player Conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan View Post
    You can be staff again if you want bro, you were always good at making rules.
    That would actually be great
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    I wanted to buy a kinder egg in usa. But apparently they arn't sold because they are too dangerous.
    So I bought two assault rifles instead.
    Spoiler : LOGIC :
    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    ACCEPT THE ONE TRUE FAITH

  17. #17

    Re: Player Conduct

    I can be pretty aggressive at times, but it's rare for me. Usually whenever the game crosses into personal territory, I just apologize to the person in question and no ill-will is carried over out of the game. I do need to work on that, but I wouldn't really call myself a toxic player.
    I do admit that some players have a hard time conceiving as to how someone else can scumread them and just call others "low-IQ hot messes". That can get pretty annoying, especially if you're not secure in your own reads. Otherwise, it's kind of funny/sad, but it's regardless not part of the game.
    Last edited by Ganelon; November 22nd, 2018 at 01:54 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by blinkskater View Post
    Polish my nuts and serve me a milkshake. Anyone who uses scum syntax will be lynched.

  18. #18

    Re: Player Conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    it is sad that it's the meta here, but it's inevitable. it's always that the majority of the player base plays Sc2Mafia before forum mafia. due to the time limitations in Sc2Mafia, the players need to be aggressive in day chat to accomplish stuff; it doesn't translate over to fm well.

    I think players really need to focus on making fewer and more meaningful posts. take time before posting, and really consider what they're going to say. 99% of the insults are just knee jerk reactions in a several hundred post day. I bet the day would be a lot more cordial if people didn't spam threads lol. i don't think this will ever happen, but something to consider.
    I agree. Honestly, the post-flood-insults tire me out much more than the little jabs. If someone goes on a little tantrum for a few posts that's one thing - we're all human. But when someone spends like 50 posts having repetitive, draining arguments with the same person that's when it crosses the line into pathological imo. Don't get me started on the arguments that last 100s heheh.

    I think tempmuting two players who are clearly making the game stagnate isn't a terrible idea. Because most of the time they just need to get their head out of some unhealthy cycle. Or building some toughly-enforced-mechanic into the setup which limits how much interaction two players can have with one another (like a rule that places a limit on how many times you can interact with the same player). I don't think anyone can say with a straight face they needed 50 replies to a player to get all their points across LOL.

    I'd be less open to perma-banning apart from in extreme cases like duck, because I think a lot of these players have the potential to get over their issues if the system handles them appropriately. And temp-banning just stalls the issue.

  19. #19

    Re: Player Conduct

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    I can be pretty aggressive at times, but it's rare for me. Usually whenever the game crosses into personal territory, I just apologize to the person in question and no ill-will is carried over out of the game. I do need to work on that, but I wouldn't really call myself a toxic player.
    I do admit that some players have a hard time conceiving as to how someone else can scumread them and just call others "low-IQ hot messes". That can get pretty annoying, especially if you're not secure in your own reads. Otherwise, it's kind of funny/sad, but it's regardless not part of the game.
    We have fun when we fight lol

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