S-FM Turnabout Mafia

[Frog]

so... if somoene could tell me:

if i want to vote a wolf, do they need to be at the top or bottom of my list?

[Frog]

also - do i post it here?

[Mike]

dumb question or insincere

you were telling me mafia has a chat and pinged me

as though you're telling me to check mafia chat myself

im not a wolf

stop

and gross

Dude no. All I was doing was saying for you to consider during the day chat they have a chat. So as you read all the post you also comfier that. In case you catch something. I was not saying you are reading mafia chat. WOW you go fast off to left field.

[Frog]

I'm quite tired, is it okay if I just leave like this my gentlemen

Kenny can be villager, it took me a while to figur this out (2 minutes)

[Distorted]

Distorted how do you read frog?

just like anyone else. Never read people by their posts/words read by the underlying incentive behind what they are doing.

frogs style ive seen, and most of the time its actually pretty solid players that do it, hence why it comes off so arrogant. if you want a good example of his style we just played a game on MU with a dude named wolfy who subbed in late game. literally solved the game no problem. identical style to frog, literally identical. i would not be surprised if they are the same person lol

right now, since its early I see the motive going either way:

Scum Motive: he was top voted so he came in stirring shit up to get everyone confused. its almost like a reset on the game/current votes so he can lead the votes elsewhere. players who sub in have the luxury of doing this due to them having no reads on them, but the slot themself. so they can critisize the play of their own slot. he also fast buddied Slaol. If he is scum he would have already known Slaol is town, from literally the very first post. thats what throws me off. he was told so many times slaol was town, responded to other people but yet kept saying he townreads slaol. I think that was for credibility in reads.

Town Motive: stirring shit up to analyze. I did this in the mafia champs game when i first started posting. I went after the top townread player (general hankerchief) and heavy pushed him to see who would join in and how far it would derail things because it seemed so calm. it had positive results for town and gave plenty of information to analyze. it also makes scum nervous as hell. its a heavy swinger coming in throwing shit everywhere. accusations, town reads, and thehy sound confident. that alone would make scum nervous since it seems like he is locking down the game.

I'm willing to gve the town meta a chance because the game was starting to stale out, i think frogs style can get shit moving and will be a fresh read on everyone. its like a double-check on our reads.

[Mike]

so... if somoene could tell me:

if i want to vote a wolf, do they need to be at the top or bottom of my list?

Top of list is most scumy bottom of list is most town

[Frog]

Dude no. All I was doing was saying for you to consider during the day chat they have a chat. So as you read all the post you also comfier that. In case you catch something. I was not saying you are reading mafia chat. WOW you go fast off to left field.

pass

also you're getting a day pass so don't care

[Frog]

level with . me dudes

is number two just straight up wolf?

[Mike]

just like anyone else. Never read people by their posts/words read by the underlying incentive behind what they are doing.

frogs style ive seen, and most of the time its actually pretty solid players that do it, hence why it comes off so arrogant. if you want a good example of his style we just played a game on MU with a dude named wolfy who subbed in late game. literally solved the game no problem. identical style to frog, literally identical. i would not be surprised if they are the same person lol

right now, since its early I see the motive going either way:

Scum Motive: he was top voted so he came in stirring shit up to get everyone confused. its almost like a reset on the game/current votes so he can lead the votes elsewhere. players who sub in have the luxury of doing this due to them having no reads on them, but the slot themself. so they can critisize the play of their own slot. he also fast buddied Slaol. If he is scum he would have already known Slaol is town, from literally the very first post. thats what throws me off. he was told so many times slaol was town, responded to other people but yet kept saying he townreads slaol. I think that was for credibility in reads.

Town Motive: stirring shit up to analyze. I did this in the mafia champs game when i first started posting. I went after the top townread player (general hankerchief) and heavy pushed him to see who would join in and how far it would derail things because it seemed so calm. it had positive results for town and gave plenty of information to analyze. it also makes scum nervous as hell. its a heavy swinger coming in throwing shit everywhere. accusations, town reads, and thehy sound confident. that alone would make scum nervous since it seems like he is locking down the game.

I'm willing to gve the town meta a chance because the game was starting to stale out, i think frogs style can get shit moving and will be a fresh read on everyone. its like a double-check on our reads.

Sound like anyway you look at it it is good for town new reads always good

[Distorted]

level with . me dudes

is number two just straight up wolf?

i beleive he is bomber. he softclaimed bomber in the jury trial, then said it was because he wanted the bomber to try to frame him -.- he was cnofident enough tehre was a bomber, and honestly i call BS on it. i have claled it multiple times today already.

[Distorted]

Sound like anyway you look at it it is good for town new reads always good

Yup, its chaotic af but effective if u dont let it spin you in circles. usually the people who get overwhelmed by it though are the scum. since it makes it hard for them to manipulate/control

[Frog]

Spoiler : cvote :

Numbertwo,Magoroth,LightYagami,Voss,Mike,Kenny,Dis torted,MarshmallowMarshall,Gyrlander,Frog,

i think this is where i am but; still thinking it through
i think numbertwo is the obvious wolf here always always always

I think Voss MUST be a wolf, but i dont think they've exhibited enough wolfiness to deserve a top spot

ill revisit this sometime, now-osh

[Distorted]

here is wolfy https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...archid=2228607

so reading his ISO maybe not identical. he is more...weeby lol but he definitely came in strong just like frog is.

[Frog]

my read on marsh is 100% a dirty read, but they introduced the dirtiness

Either they are town, or have no honor

[Frog]

Spoiler : cvote :

Numbertwo,Magoroth,LightYagami,Voss,Mike,Kenny,Dis torted,MarshmallowMarshall,Gyrlander,Frog,

[Frog]

why is distorted appearing weird?

[Frog]

I think if numbertwo is town, we always lose;;;;; they should never be in any type of lylo

[Distorted]

why is distorted appearing weird?

better weird than plain.

[Frog]

here is wolfy https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...archid=2228607

so reading his ISO maybe not identical. he is more...weeby lol but he definitely came in strong just like frog is.

wut?

I love wolfy, he's a good dude

You also mentioned sheep?

Also a god dude

but, not to bash either of them, i think they recognize that my play is tiers above theirs

I think BOTH of them have advanced significantly this year in terms of play, but they both have a while to go

[Frog]

better weird than plain.

lol, i mean in terms of how it's appearing in the vote count

[Ganelon]

the only player in that. list I would lynch is maybe Voss, and that's based off of the assumption that he's bomber.

[Mike]

pass

also you're getting a day pass so don't care

A day pass wtf is that? If you think I scum then vote me lych me. Dude I try and help and what I am beneath you is that what you think?

[Frog]

and yeah, i will never reevaluate my MM read; if i could mute them under current restrictions i would

100% this is a dirty AF read, but there have been so many dirty plays here; idgaf

MM is village or has ZERO honor and loses all credibility

[Distorted]

lol, i mean in terms of how it's appearing in the vote count

no idea but it still registers it. its done that to be since condercet was created here lol

[Frog]

A day pass wtf is that? If you think I scum then vote me lych me. Dude I try and help and what I am beneath you is that what you think?

as in; you're never worth my time

i don't think anything positive can come from aggressive interactions between us because i think you're:

1) Town
2) Prone to Appeal to Emotion
3) Incredibly Reaction

[Frog]

no idea but it still registers it. its done that to be since condercet was created here lol

yeah, i dont think my vote was ever registered fwiw;

just sheep me on numbertwo for a free win?

[Distorted]

yeah, i dont think my vote was ever registered fwiw;

just sheep me on numbertwo for a free win?

lol my votes been on him since the start of this day

[Frog]

Spoiler : cvote :

Frog,Kenny,MarshmallowMarshall,Numbertwo,LightYaga mi,Mike,Gyrlander,Voss,Distorted,Magoroth,

ok i get this

lolu

also wtf

kenny is a villager

im a vilager

this is bad, ur reads are bad, lol GG

[Distorted]

yeah, i dont think my vote was ever registered fwiw;

just sheep me on numbertwo for a free win?

but how do you have gyrlander as such a high townread? with the limited info on him i figured most people would have him as a null, i mainly have a scumread on him due to meta.

[Frog]

lol my votes been on him since the start of this day

nice

Mag is a noob or wolf?

Light is a noob or wolf?

Voss is a wolf or wolf?

[Frog]

but how do you have gyrlander as such a high townread? with the limited info on him i figured most people would have him as a null, i mainly have a scumread on him due to meta.

i guess call it a gutread

his syntax is just pure as fuck

he posts in a way that isn't restricted, abrupt, unrestricted, unrelentless

he's a pure villager

I haven't read blinks, but i hope blinks caught thatthere

[Mike]

as in; you're never worth my time

i don't think anything positive can come from aggressive interactions between us because i think you're:

1) Town
2) Prone to Appeal to Emotion
3) Incredibly Reaction

So are you saying I get angry? Don’t we all?

[Frog]

Spoiler : cvote :

Numbertwo,Stealthbomber16,Mike,LightYagami,Kenny,V oss,Gyrlander,DamusGraves,MarshmallowMarshall,Dist orted,Magoroth,blinkskater,

GOAT

on numbertwo

but 100% wrong on me, but i mena, 100% my predecssor sucked i get it

still tho, shoudl have caught damus

that was a freebie

[Distorted]

nice

Mag is a noob or wolf?

Light is a noob or wolf?

Voss is a wolf or wolf?

voss was my original scumread on D1. Light has a unique...style. but he is new to FM. mag was a strong town for me D1, litearlly put him in my townblock with blink and MM almost instnatly. but D2 he has just faded into the background. gave me vibes of coasting off of his townread. but i still have the townread on him, but @Magoroth im watching you >=O

[Mike]

GOAT

on numbertwo

but 100% wrong on me, but i mena, 100% my predecssor sucked i get it

still tho, shoudl have caught damus

that was a freebie

I am sorry but this post made me lag my ass off

[Frog]

So are you saying I get angry? Don’t we all?

No dude;

I'm saying I think you're a villager who is prone to death tunnels

It happens a lot

And I fear that too much interaction will go against the common goal of lynching wolves for an ez gg

[Frog]

I am sorry but this post made me lag my ass off

it's easy as flip

blinks is a good player from the limited time I've seen him

He shares my common wolf; it's not a coiincidence

[Frog]

also, how do i submit my vote count?

numbertwo should always be the flip here

ALWAYS

[Distorted]

also, how do i submit my vote count?

numbertwo should always be the flip here

ALWAYS

https://narrator.systeminplace.net/co...l?thread=43433

organize your reads list then hit generate then paste it into here

[Mike]

No dude;

I'm saying I think you're a villager who is prone to death tunnels

It happens a lot

And I fear that too much interaction will go against the common goal of lynching wolves for an ez gg

Well I can’t shure with that I do tend to tunnel. I guess I need to work on that. Guess then be best if I stop posting? To help town?

[Frog]

Spoiler : cvote :

Numbertwo,Magoroth,LightYagami,Voss,Mike,Kenny,Dis torted,MarshmallowMarshall,Gyrlander,Frog,

GG unless MM literally has zero honor; dirty AF read

if MM is a wolf, they just get revoked and ultimate GG

you don't tell a player to fuck off and expect it to be an acceptable thing as a villager

[Mike]

it's easy as flip

blinks is a good player from the limited time I've seen him

He shares my common wolf; it's not a coiincidence

I ment the part you said he sucked sb16 is a good player I think he had real life issues.

[Mike]

also, how do i submit my vote count?

numbertwo should always be the flip here

ALWAYS

Go here make your order and it will copy your order and past it on this forum

https://narrator.systeminplace.net/co...l?thread=43433

[Frog]

Well I can’t shure with that I do tend to tunnel. I guess I need to work on that. Guess then be best if I stop posting? To help town?

nah mate - the best thing is if - if you're prone to death tunnels, take some time to reevaluate and consider analysis

But i mean, from my perspective, and I could be 100% wrong my read of you and your play in general:

Nothing good can come from trying to power village with you because your paranoia will take over, and your initial reads always take precedence

I THINK my initial read on your play MAY be wrong though

[Distorted]

@Mike whats your opinions on numbertwo? i notice you have him down on ur vote list

[Mike]

nah mate - the best thing is if - if you're prone to death tunnels, take some time to reevaluate and consider analysis

But i mean, from my perspective, and I could be 100% wrong my read of you and your play in general:

Nothing good can come from trying to power village with you because your paranoia will take over, and your initial reads always take precedence

I THINK my initial read on your play MAY be wrong though

Wow you are good how did you know I second guess myself a lot?

[Distorted]

Wow you are good how did you know I second guess myself a lot?

because your play is lacking confidence. you asking "should i stop talking?" is second guessing everything you are saying alone =P

[Frog]

New list incoming.

Spoiler : cvote :

Stealthbomber16,Voss,Mike,DamusGraves,LightYagami, Gyrlander,MarshmallowMarshall,Kenny,Magoroth,Numbe rtwo,Distorted,blinkskater,

meh lolblinks

[Mike]

@Mike whats your opinions on numbertwo? i notice you have him down on ur vote list

I don’t think a good player would call himself out as bomber if he really was does not add up to me. Remember in jury chat he called out he was bomber and he was going to bomb The same 2 that got bombed. Then d2 he was denying it. Makes me think of the mod when the Mafa says in a death note I am number 5 and then number 5 says no that was not me. I mean why. Don’t add up. In other words to easy.

[Mike]

because your play is lacking confidence. you asking "should i stop talking?" is second guessing everything you are saying alone =P

Well if You guys enjoy playing with me then I will work on it if my play is like makeing it no fun please let me know. Remember. I may second guess myself but I have a thick hide.