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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    I didn't read that at all

    If you're saying it's a wolf slip, cool

    But again; I refuse to believe MM is a shameful player as a wolf
    What would make him shameful??
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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    I was going to basically give my vote to the judge during the last trial phase becaue i wanted to be sure we the ppl could trust his judgment. Thats why i didnt cast a vote. Since the bomber proved that judge has our best intrests at heart. Im more inclined to follow our judge based on that.

  5. ISO #2205

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Ty frog all the info you can give town will help town out a lot in case you get voted out it will help town on reads. Less places for town to hide.
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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    I suppose telling a player to flip off crosses a personal bounds of etiquette for me, especially if that player is a wolf talking to a villager (I'm a villager)

    So from my perspective, either MM is a shameful player and a wolf, or they're just a villager
    Take into consideration. Putting someone up to vote is not same as lyching them. Two innos on scum means scum win so not a bad play to put up you guilty defender and push his Inno that way he has an Inno then make him go to trial day 2 and use your auto Inno for a day 2 scum win. Remember what you don’t see is MM was hard pushing the Inno on Dumas in jury chat. Keep all this in mind.

    Plus why where you not surprised about day scum chat but was surprised about Sloal being Judge 100% confirmed town?
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  10. ISO #2210

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    D
    Quote Originally Posted by Light_Yagami View Post
    Less places for town to hide.. Yeah that dont sound scummy at all
    Wow light really you know I am referring to scum. Useing a cell phone to type why I am loaded with typos.
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  11. ISO #2211

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Take into consideration. Putting someone up to vote is not same as lyching them. Two innos on scum means scum win so not a bad play to put up you guilty defender and push his Inno that way he has an Inno then make him go to trial day 2 and use your auto Inno for a day 2 scum win. Remember what you don’t see is MM was hard pushing the Inno on Dumas in jury chat. Keep all this in mind.

    Plus why where you not surprised about day scum chat but was surprised about Sloal being Judge 100% confirmed town?
    I don't understand any of the mechanics talk, i just want to lynch wolves




    second part:

    weird flex but okay

    games of mafia tend to let mafia have a chat because that's the nature of the game; the uninformed majority vs the informed minority

    it's like a cornerstone of the game

  12. ISO #2212

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    I don't understand any of the mechanics talk, i just want to lynch wolves




    second part:

    weird flex but okay

    games of mafia tend to let mafia have a chat because that's the nature of the game; the uninformed majority vs the informed minority

    it's like a cornerstone of the game
    The mechanics of the game can affect your reads. So if you are not taking that into consideration then your read are no good
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  13. ISO #2213

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    The mechanics of the game can affect your reads. So if you are not taking that into consideration then your read are no good
    My reads are simple:

    Catch wolves

    Clear villagers

    GG

    Mechanics are just the shiny glitter and bow

    The nature of the game is unchanged, unless you're saying the goal of the game is to lynch villager and clear wolves

    In which case, weird

  14. ISO #2214

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    My reads are simple:

    Catch wolves

    Clear villagers

    GG

    Mechanics are just the shiny glitter and bow

    The nature of the game is unchanged, unless you're saying the goal of the game is to lynch villager and clear wolves

    In which case, weird
    No most games you don’t have Inno scum 2 times and wincon. It is the wincons you have to look at can make a players play different.

    Ok if town guilt ya 3 town in a row town loses. If town innoed mafia 2 time period town loses
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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    This is one of the facts Sloal has been trying to tell you but you are not following him he is confirmed town you are not yet you want everyone to follow you. If you are town I think you can help town but at this time you are harming town.
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  17. ISO #2217

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    so what you're telling me:

    catch wolves

    clear villagers

    seems pretty straight forward to me
    I give up
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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Sort By Postcount Become Werewolf Expert ENGAGE!!!



    These are villagers:


    Posts 309
    Marshmallow Marshall

    Posts 274
    Mike

    Posts 229
    Distorted

    Posts 209
    blinkskater




    This is the sweet spot where wolves are:


    Posts 202
    Voss - could go either way

    Posts 182
    Slaol - is chasing vanity stuff

    Posts 170
    Light_Yagami - could go either way

    Posts 146
    Magoroth - Almost always here

    Posts 121
    Damus_Graves - obvious mafia

    Posts 112
    Frog - I'm villager and only have a few hours of posting

    Posts 66
    Numbertwo - This would probably be too obvious



    3 villagers below this line are Low Hanging Fruit (easy mislynches)


    Posts 60
    Gyrlander

    Posts 58
    Stealthbomber16

    Posts 52
    Kenny




    Yeah, my reads pretty much match up with post count reads so... GG EZ no RE

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    Obviously I don't have any alignment reads for you

    You seem to be some special role

    The only thing I can comment on is your play

    Which is that you're chasing vanity stuff

    Exactly like you're doing here lol

    If this makes you happy go for it mate

    I'm happy to share in your happiness
    You do realize that my play fits into your scum reads but is confirmed town? Thus challenging all of your reads? Yet you dont care or feel a need to respond to that at all

  25. ISO #2225

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Like Slaol;

    I just looked at the setup right now

    Being lost is not being wolf

    Being wrong is not being wolf

    but it's clear that the only thing you grasped from that sort by post count is whatever satiates your ego

    it's also clear that you're chasing down a recent sub for not not doing enough, which is just 100% lolworthy

    You're just doing this for vanity; and again, that's fine man

    This is your type of play, this makes you happy, cool

    I'll keep playing around you if I have to in the interim

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    Like Slaol;

    I just looked at the setup right now

    Being lost is not being wolf

    Being wrong is not being wolf

    but it's clear that the only thing you grasped from that sort by post count is whatever satiates your ego

    it's also clear that you're chasing down a recent sub for not not doing enough, which is just 100% lolworthy

    You're just doing this for vanity; and again, that's fine man

    This is your type of play, this makes you happy, cool

    I'll keep playing around you if I have to in the interim
    Lord have mercy Frog. Im literally just asking for like vote and buddy analysis lol. Youre stuck on post count and syntax. I dont need "more" its not about "enough" its that your style of play has been a detriment to today as far as i can tell and id like you to offer different things. You dont want to actually contribute so this has nothing to do with me being happy, it has to do with you being a negative impact on the game and being proud of it.

  28. ISO #2228

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    I dont even care if you start with your style but offer more. Theres about 80+% of the information that you're ignoring. The setup, votes, you havent asked about juror chat once. Youre jusr hoping to wave your dick and win town mvp in a loss and then blame everyone else for vanity lol

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Numbertwo View Post
    Im still confused as to why so many others are following frog.

    Frog is a drunkard if you guys didn't realize that yet,lol


    Spoiler : cvote :
    Frog,Voss,MarshmallowMarshall,Distorted,Kenny,Mike ,LightYagami,Gyrlander,Magoroth,Numbertwo,
    yeah i think it's just exactly numbertwo + magoroth now

    the omgus is strong and they both tick all the wolf boxes

    Wolfy syntax

    Wolfy voting

    Wolfy OMGUS

    Wolfy reaction to 'caught for the wrong reasons'

    It's a gg here

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    yeah ok - flip Magoroth - that should spew me clear

    theyre straight up wolfing
    Shoal if he flips green should we consider his reads?
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    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    are you desperately trying to get trialed?

    or are you honestly that stupid

  39. ISO #2239
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    are you desperately trying to get trialed?

    or are you honestly that stupid
    I don't see why someone would want to be trialed, and I'm pretty sure Bomber can't bomb their own trial, so... :yeah:

  40. ISO #2240
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    ANYWAY. Since Frog's unlikely to change in play style/behaviour this game and is instead content to be a prick, I'm pursuing my alternative scum reads of Numbertwo, Gyrlander, MM.

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    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    I'll check back later today; but yeah

    I'm pretty sure Mag + NumberTwo flips win the game




    feel free to look into that yourselves and see what I see:

    RAAAA CAUGHT FOR THE WRONG RAISINS!!!
    I like how you lay into Mike for tunneling and then you tunnel yourself.

  43. ISO #2243

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    ANYWAY. Since Frog's unlikely to change in play style/behaviour this game and is instead content to be a prick, I'm pursuing my alternative scum reads of Numbertwo, Gyrlander, MM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    are you desperately trying to get trialed?

    or are you honestly that stupid
    Cut this type of behavior out mate

    It's disgusting

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    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Of course.
    Only reason I ask if becuse you are saying lych him becuse his reads are wrong so I am confused.
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  47. ISO #2247
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    To those saying that Frog's behaviour may have potential scum motivation: reading solely what he has done this game, it's very clearly motivated by out-of-game reasons; he doesn't explain his reads in a way that can make others understand them, and he called the bloody mayor scum, which is absurd, and also faked "read him" as town. I'd expect a scum Frog to show some more flexibility in order to more easily manipulate people.

    I do admit that Slaol does seem like the type of person who might be vulnerable to such manipulation, but it seems at best underhanded and at worst obvious as hell. I don't see it as scummy.

    I know y'all are going to rail into me for "stopping a information Lynch" (?), but really, what has Frog brought to the game, besides syntax reads and a sense of coolness? You won't even know if his reads are true, and if you're going to sheep them just because you have a gut feeling he is town and badass you might as well lynch me right now.

    This type of reads really rests more on "macro-meta" analysis over multiple games. Let me tell you this: there are a metric fuckton of confounding variables that come into play in meta reads like this one. Sure there probably is a correlation between "syntax" and alignment, but it's not like 100% correlated, hell, it's probably something closer to 50%.

  48. ISO #2248
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    This is a game

    If you get upset for being caught and resort to personal attacks, that's 100% losing the picture here

    Have fun, but respect other players, and respect the game

    You are 100% responsible for what you say

    Your words are toxic here man

    Stop it

    I caught you, you're done, stop throwing a hissy fit
    It's honestly sad. I used to use similar kinds of reads as you, but those don't work 100% of the time. It's literally hit 100%, miss 100% or (most of the time) around 50/50.

  49. ISO #2249
    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    To those saying that Frog's behaviour may have potential scum motivation: reading solely what he has done this game, it's very clearly motivated by out-of-game reasons; he doesn't explain his reads in a way that can make others understand them, and he called the bloody mayor scum, which is absurd, and also faked "read him" as town. I'd expect a scum Frog to show some more flexibility in order to more easily manipulate people.

    I do admit that Slaol does seem like the type of person who might be vulnerable to such manipulation, but it seems at best underhanded and at worst obvious as hell. I don't see it as scummy.

    I know y'all are going to rail into me for "stopping a information Lynch" (?), but really, what has Frog brought to the game, besides syntax reads and a sense of coolness? You won't even know if his reads are true, and if you're going to sheep them just because you have a gut feeling he is town and badass you might as well lynch me right now.

    This type of reads really rests more on "macro-meta" analysis over multiple games. Let me tell you this: there are a metric fuckton of confounding variables that come into play in meta reads like this one. Sure there probably is a correlation between "syntax" and alignment, but it's not like 100% correlated, hell, it's probably something closer to 50%.
    by he, I mean Frog and not sb16.

  50. ISO #2250

    Re: S-FM Turnabout Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Distorted View Post
    @AIVION I nominate @Mike to be the prosecutor in the case against frog
    Ummm... Lol :P If it happens it happens!

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    @AIVION does there need to be any vote reset for a reserve? How would we handle that
    For the C Vote? Not that I'm aware, I believe Voss already fixed that as of now. for votes to skip/whatever you guys are using the normal voting for: I can handle it if necessary.

    I also just want to remind you all you can vote to skip if you are all of a agreed upon consensus. [vote]skip[./vote] without the .

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    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
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