S-FM Turnabout Mafia

[Mike]

I said it and he agreed, I don't remember who said it first but I know he's the one who agreed with me and stated it.

Be mindful of you prayers for God may grant them

Back up here I said it and you agreed not the other way around after game when Aivion reopens the jury chat you will see I have been telling the truth all game.

[Ganelon]

either make a case on someone other than Gyrlander, if you don't believe Gyrlander is mafia, or skip.

[Voss]

Yeah of course #2 is getting desperate and is trying to paint me as the bomber.

Also no one's affirmed or denied Mike's thing. Again, I'm going to posit that Mike and maybe MM were talking about using the auto guilty (or whatever that ability is) in scum chat and Mike slipped here.

There's a difference between rigging the votes and what I remember of it of just not trusting Slaol to make the decision.

Someone else needs to back up their claim because then it's verified. Until then I'm treating it as a slip.

[Numbertwo]

So you are anti town pro Scum? Still not lyching you today.

Im anti town because i don't support the idea of letting you guys sacrifice me so i can lose the game?

If the town is so confident in their failure that they have to kill the town aligned neutral that has been helping them the entire game then maybe they don't deserve to win?

[Numbertwo]

Yeah of course #2 is getting desperate and is trying to paint me as the bomber.

Also no one's affirmed or denied Mike's thing. Again, I'm going to posit that Mike and maybe MM were talking about using the auto guilty (or whatever that ability is) in scum chat and Mike slipped here.

There's a difference between rigging the votes and what I remember of it of just not trusting Slaol to make the decision.

Someone else needs to back up their claim because then it's verified. Until then I'm treating it as a slip.

you're not the bomber and i will be happy to prove it in the court

[Numbertwo]

what happens if the bomber is alive if the town lynches 3 townies in a row? Does he lose the game aswell?

[Gyrlander]

Yeah of course #2 is getting desperate and is trying to paint me as the bomber.

Also no one's affirmed or denied Mike's thing. Again, I'm going to posit that Mike and maybe MM were talking about using the auto guilty (or whatever that ability is) in scum chat and Mike slipped here.

There's a difference between rigging the votes and what I remember of it of just not trusting Slaol to make the decision.

Someone else needs to back up their claim because then it's verified. Until then I'm treating it as a slip.

Has AIVION confirmed that what they said is true?

[Mike]

I never used the words "rigging the votes" but it means what I meant to say, that the mafia could change the outcome of the vote easily. And yes, that slaol is not infaillible either. I think you're right though, I was the first to claim it. I don't back Mike's words word for word, but I don't disagree with them either, it's in the same way of thinking.

and feel free to scum paint me over this, it's the right moment to do so, right? Since the matter is not really verifiable. You're putting me in the defendant's position here, which I have no reason to be.... I think you're just disappointed that someone actually answered to your stuff and said what had happened

Sloal one thing I can say I MM has been truthful about the Jury chat. but the fact of who brought up the fact of who said it was not a good idea on Voss to 50/50 was me and MM did agree.

NOW EVERYONE TRYING TO MAKE IT OUT I AM SHEEPING THEM IS A BIG PILE OF CRAP.

only one I have been giving my votes to is Sloal yes because I do agree with Voss that Sloal needs a say because at this point he has 0.

Fact Voss has stated he/she ( no i dont know who is what sex and I don't care it is a game) would Sheep blindly Sloal in Jury chat is True and MM was agent it True. Also MM also was stating that Voss Blindly following Sloal is stupid also. MM also stated that Does not mean we don't follow Sloal just dont do it blindly. I did read MM as Townie MM in Jury chat. Biggest reason I read MM as scum is because of the fact He hard defended The Scum.

I do at this point believe MM is trying to be honest. I have not seen him Lying does that mean I think he is Town no. But I also am not scum reading him. I am a Bit confused about MM He is acting his townie self big time. Is it a cover I don't know.

Voss is the same read as MM I just don't know. Voss claims to be town. This maybe true but I just don't know.

My possible scum teams i can perceive are agin this is POSSIBLE SCUM TEAM NOT FACT JUST GUESSES.

Voss/ Mag
Mag/Distorted
MM/Distorted
Kenny/ Gry
MAg/Distorted
Light/ anyone
Number2 (if he is lying)/light This one is a stretch

At everyone Thoughts. I feel if we all put out out posable scum read teams we may see a pattern remember only 2 scums 1 nk rest town. So the 2 scums will put fake reads. Keep that in mind.

[Mike]

welp, wanna skip? since if gyr flips maf then we can get voss up for u. takes 9 people to skip -.-

You seem confidant try is going to flip Green and skipping fells a bit off to me.

[Mike]

im not completely convinced that he is mafia and since you guys are planning on lynching me if he flips town to remove the pile of town bodies i'd rather discuss some more.

Gyrlander did actually vote up damus to the trial which makes me think that he might not be a mafia member. It would be a extremely risky move to intentionally trial the guilty defendant on day 1.

This feels Genuine.

[Slaol]

Sloal one thing I can say I MM has been truthful about the Jury chat. but the fact of who brought up the fact of who said it was not a good idea on Voss to 50/50 was me and MM did agree.

NOW EVERYONE TRYING TO MAKE IT OUT I AM SHEEPING THEM IS A BIG PILE OF CRAP.

only one I have been giving my votes to is Sloal yes because I do agree with Voss that Sloal needs a say because at this point he has 0.

Fact Voss has stated he/she ( no i dont know who is what sex and I don't care it is a game) would Sheep blindly Sloal in Jury chat is True and MM was agent it True. Also MM also was stating that Voss Blindly following Sloal is stupid also. MM also stated that Does not mean we don't follow Sloal just dont do it blindly. I did read MM as Townie MM in Jury chat. Biggest reason I read MM as scum is because of the fact He hard defended The Scum.

I do at this point believe MM is trying to be honest. I have not seen him Lying does that mean I think he is Town no. But I also am not scum reading him. I am a Bit confused about MM He is acting his townie self big time. Is it a cover I don't know.

Voss is the same read as MM I just don't know. Voss claims to be town. This maybe true but I just don't know.

My possible scum teams i can perceive are agin this is POSSIBLE SCUM TEAM NOT FACT JUST GUESSES.

Voss/ Mag
Mag/Distorted
MM/Distorted
Kenny/ Gry
MAg/Distorted
Light/ anyone
Number2 (if he is lying)/light This one is a stretch

At everyone Thoughts. I feel if we all put out out posable scum read teams we may see a pattern remember only 2 scums 1 nk rest town. So the 2 scums will put fake reads. Keep that in mind.

Mike... thats so many freaking combinations

[Slaol]

Im not completely convinced that Voss is town. Wouldn't surprise me if my defense target is the bomber. I don't think taking him to trial is a bad idea because it would also get rid of me and i'd rather suicide then be used as a sacrifice to the mafia gods.

My 2nd trial candidate is MM because of defending Damus so heavily. It made alot of sense to defend him if MM is mafia because they would win if he was innod on a 2nd trial.

If Voss is scum youre scum. Did you not realize that?

[Mike]

Nah, you are just playing with your failure-food. I just hope you guys remember that damus would probably still be alive if it wasn't for my actions when the time comes.

That is true, The reason I came up with this idea to use you it motivates you to earn your win not a free handout. and it Helps town a lot. giving us 2 views that town can trust. Now I dont think you are bomber for 1 big reason. you claiming this role would be a throw. because if you where bomber you can't win because if we inno Voss you are dead the next day with a win. if you are bomber and bomb Voss trial you would still be around but if you are telling the truth you would be dead. so You can't be bomber because you would be throwing if you where. For the same reasons you can't be scum.

You can't can't be town because If you where town that would be throwing for town. So you have to be exactly what you say.

So in short you are a Trusted source of information as with Sloal. This is why I came up with the Idea to use you as town sacrifice. 1 you our get out of jail free card. 2 you are motivated to help town. not sit back and just watch.

[Numbertwo]

If Voss is scum youre scum. Did you not realize that?

What if i told you that my objective is to see voss get lynched in a trial and not voted innocent in the trial?

Would that make Voss into a scum?

[Mike]

Yeah of course #2 is getting desperate and is trying to paint me as the bomber.

Also no one's affirmed or denied Mike's thing. Again, I'm going to posit that Mike and maybe MM were talking about using the auto guilty (or whatever that ability is) in scum chat and Mike slipped here.

There's a difference between rigging the votes and what I remember of it of just not trusting Slaol to make the decision.

Someone else needs to back up their claim because then it's verified. Until then I'm treating it as a slip.

Corrupt Attorney
You're a Corrupt Attorney who has deep connections in the Trial system. You've been paid out by a desperate client, and must fight to make sure they are found innocent.
Abilities:
You have a one time use skill that can sabotage A ongoing trial's outcome, forcing a Guilty or Innocent on a player.
You cannot use this during a trial with the Guilty Defendant as the defendant, BUT it can be used during your own trial.
This ability can only be used if the trial isn't interrupted (Courtroom bombing) or at anytime after the first 12 hours of the Trial.
Once used, the Trial ends, and the town will be notified of this the next day along with the manipulated verdict.
if this is used to kill the Courtroom Bomber, the usage becomes refreshed.
This ability starts with an extra charge as long as there's two Corrupt Attornies alive and on the team.
This ability's charge is passed down if an Amnesiac Attorney remembers this role.
This ability becomes obsolete if the Jury system becomes abolished.

Attributes:
You are informed of who your client is and his Juror during the start of the game.
You and your client get a day/Trial chat you can use here. [link][/link]
You have a better chance at being chosen as defending your client OR Lesser chance of prosecuting them when a trial is setup against them. (Subject to chang
If the Guilty Defendant died Without being on Trial, then you become the new Defendant with the charge of corruption. (open for interpretation)

Right there it is in the setup. and don't play stupid you knew about it then because Kenny was running around Jurry chat saying he was rigging the votes .

The main topics where in jury chat in order they came up
Kenny= I ma going to rig the votes
Number2 = There is a bomber for a fact. Alakabar I am going to blow up the trial Dumas and Blink are going to blow up and it is going to be funny.
MM= Damas is town we need to inno him.
Voss= I want to sheep shoal blindly
distorted = I like crapes. I like food
MM= Crapes are good. Voss don't blindly follow Sloal he is not God supreme. yes lision to his leads but don't follow him blindly.
Everyone = WoW that Cat sucks this is pathetic. Well Damas is going to be inno on this one. ( except Light)
MM= Voting inno
Mike= Voting Inno
Distorted = Voting Inno
Voss= I am not voting inno or guilty I am splitting my votes so they are 50/50 and let Sloal be the Deciding vote.
Mike= That is stupid will allow scum to fix the votes.
MM= that is correct the MAfia can fix the votes. (Back to fighting with Voss about if Sloal is a god or not)
Light= at aivion how do i abstain, I want to Abstain
Mike = Judge making some good point in court @ aivian Can you please remove my inno vote.
MM and Voss= more arguing about if Sloal is a God or not.

and that was pretty much Jury chat.

[Gyrlander]

Kenny and I Mafia team

:BOOM:

[Mike]

Mike... thats so many freaking combinations

Yes but if everyone gives there posable combos we may see a pattern. NM it was just an Idea.

[Gyrlander]

Sloal one thing I can say I MM has been truthful about the Jury chat. but the fact of who brought up the fact of who said it was not a good idea on Voss to 50/50 was me and MM did agree.

NOW EVERYONE TRYING TO MAKE IT OUT I AM SHEEPING THEM IS A BIG PILE OF CRAP.

only one I have been giving my votes to is Sloal yes because I do agree with Voss that Sloal needs a say because at this point he has 0.

Fact Voss has stated he/she ( no i dont know who is what sex and I don't care it is a game) would Sheep blindly Sloal in Jury chat is True and MM was agent it True. Also MM also was stating that Voss Blindly following Sloal is stupid also. MM also stated that Does not mean we don't follow Sloal just dont do it blindly. I did read MM as Townie MM in Jury chat. Biggest reason I read MM as scum is because of the fact He hard defended The Scum.

I do at this point believe MM is trying to be honest. I have not seen him Lying does that mean I think he is Town no. But I also am not scum reading him. I am a Bit confused about MM He is acting his townie self big time. Is it a cover I don't know.

Voss is the same read as MM I just don't know. Voss claims to be town. This maybe true but I just don't know.

My possible scum teams i can perceive are agin this is POSSIBLE SCUM TEAM NOT FACT JUST GUESSES.

Voss/ Mag
Mag/Distorted
MM/Distorted
Kenny/ Gry
MAg/Distorted
Light/ anyone
Number2 (if he is lying)/light This one is a stretch

At everyone Thoughts. I feel if we all put out out posable scum read teams we may see a pattern remember only 2 scums 1 nk rest town. So the 2 scums will put fake reads. Keep that in mind.

You pretty much wrote all possible 2 player combos

[Mike]

Kenny and I Mafia team

:BOOM:

If you are town that is stupid play if you are Mafia that is a throw. or was that a hint you are Bomber with the Boom??? any way you look at it this post makes 0 Sense. Why post this why???? Posable sarcasm? Or is it a Smart play that you feel you are 100% going to be lyched and save your summate and frame Kenny ( not saying Kenny is not scum). ????

[Mike]

You pretty much wrote all possible 2 player combos

NO there can be more but theses are the main one I suspect. The top 5 is my top suspects. the point was to see if the top 5 of everyone has a correlation.

[Mike]

I suspected Damas at the start. I was correct. yes MM made me in jury Chat doubt it then Sloals case agent him made me think to scum again. IF not for bomber I would have changed Vote to Guilty Ie why i asked Aivion to remove my Inno vote. My Ideas are not as stupid as you guys think they are. My reads are not that fare off. If you would have Listened to me in Basic we would have won. IN Chicago I gave you Scum number 1 day 1. you all did not listen to me then.

Listen to me or lych me simple. I am not just blowing hot air.

[Mike]

I suspected Damas at the start. I was correct. yes MM made me in jury Chat doubt it then Sloals case agent him made me think to scum again. IF not for bomber I would have changed Vote to Guilty Ie why i asked Aivion to remove my Inno vote. My Ideas are not as stupid as you guys think they are. My reads are not that fare off. If you would have Listened to me in Basic we would have won. IN Chicago I gave you Scum number 1 day 1. you all did not listen to me then.

Listen to me or lych me simple. I am not just blowing hot air.

please ignore last post I was just blowing off steam sorry for it

[Gyrlander]

If you are town that is stupid play if you are Mafia that is a throw. or was that a hint you are Bomber with the Boom??? any way you look at it this post makes 0 Sense. Why post this why???? Posable sarcasm? Or is it a Smart play that you feel you are 100% going to be lyched and save your summate and frame Kenny ( not saying Kenny is not scum). ????

I was just laughing about that possible mafia team suggestion.

[Slaol]

What if i told you that my objective is to see voss get lynched in a trial and not voted innocent in the trial?

Would that make Voss into a scum?

Have you read a fucking post ive made lol

[Numbertwo]

Have you read a fucking post ive made lol

mostly just the ones you post when im active and the part about you townreading Voss.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Ya this. Id prefer to give #2 his win tomorrow but ��*♂️

Yep. If we lynch correctly today, we might be able to give him his win, though.

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Sorry N2, you shouldn't have revealed. After their horrible mislynch on me they'll sacrifice you. I'll try to avoid my mislynch tho. Sad thing that even when I'm Town people always misread me ^^ (cough cough MM cough cough)

If you're town this game, you REALLY, REAAAALLLLYYYYYYYYY need to study your own play of some months ago and copy it, because you were useless this game. It's actually why you're getting lynched: all you did was vote and exist. You got prosecutor, and if you allow me to repeat myself again, you didn't do shit to get Damus guiltied. Your defense was actually more against than for you. You have a big total of 0 legit scum hunting, out of MAYBE your recent post with reads... and even then, I disagree with your Distorted scumread.

Also, if you're scum: it's the same thing, you gotta contribute and do more than exist and vote.

Oh and don't get mistaken, I like you as a person and as a cat just that your play style is and was very debatable last games.

[Gyrlander]

If you're town this game, you REALLY, REAAAALLLLYYYYYYYYY need to study your own play of some months ago and copy it, because you were useless this game. It's actually why you're getting lynched: all you did was vote and exist. You got prosecutor, and if you allow me to repeat myself again, you didn't do shit to get Damus guiltied. Your defense was actually more against than for you. You have a big total of 0 legit scum hunting, out of MAYBE your recent post with reads... and even then, I disagree with your Distorted scumread.

Also, if you're scum: it's the same thing, you gotta contribute and do more than exist and vote.

Oh and don't get mistaken, I like you as a person and as a cat just that your play style is and was very debatable last games.

I am trying to scumread through POE and gut. I believe Mag, Mike, you and possibly Kenny are Town. The rest can basically die. I know you love analytical and such things but no ;)

I already explained 300 times the Damus trial, I'm not going to talk about it again. If you feel like being an asshole you can bring back it continously but I'll just casually omit it ^^

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I am trying to scumread through POE and gut. I believe Mag, Mike, you and possibly Kenny are Town. The rest can basically die. I know you love analytical and such things but no ;)

I already explained 300 times the Damus trial, I'm not going to talk about it again. If you feel like being an asshole you can bring back it continously but I'll just casually omit it ^^

Yes I know, but I still scumread you over it lol

And yes I love analytical stuff because when someone reads only over gut and meta, this someone is either scum or a town with poor reads, unless that someone is the god of mafia gut, which happens sometimes. PoE is already a good start, but it would be nice to know the reasons behind your PoE, because right now, it slightly looks like you just popped it out of your ass

[Ganelon]

Yeah of course #2 is getting desperate and is trying to paint me as the bomber.

Also no one's affirmed or denied Mike's thing. Again, I'm going to posit that Mike and maybe MM were talking about using the auto guilty (or whatever that ability is) in scum chat and Mike slipped here.

There's a difference between rigging the votes and what I remember of it of just not trusting Slaol to make the decision.

Someone else needs to back up their claim because then it's verified. Until then I'm treating it as a slip.

I don't buy that.

[Voss]

Spoiler : cvote :

Mike,MarshmallowMarshall,Magoroth,Kenny,LightYagam i,Gyrlander,Distorted,Numbertwo,Voss,

[Gyrlander]

The fact that the people I townread have so different reads compared to mine is amazing lol.

[Ganelon]

Spoiler : cvote :

Mike,MarshmallowMarshall,Magoroth,Kenny,LightYagam i,Gyrlander,Distorted,Numbertwo,Voss,

why am I your third scummiest vote?

[Mike]

Spoiler : cvote :

Mike,MarshmallowMarshall,Magoroth,Kenny,LightYagam i,Gyrlander,Distorted,Numbertwo,Voss,

What I find is funny is Voss either you are bomber or scum. I don't know witch yet. This is why I thought you where the IPA but If Number 2 is telling the truth then you can't be. Unless you are Claiming IPA and number 2 is scum? but I can say you have tried to mislead town agent me since I agreed with blink d1. and now you are trying to detract the fact me Saying you wanted the 50/50 lych in jury chat. Yes you did amit to it but you quickly tried to get the topic off that and on me again. 2+2 don't add to 4 with you Voss.

Voss you hammered on MM in jury chat about following Slaol no matter what. Yet you votes don't follow Slaols like i said 2+2 does not =4 with you. You talk is very pro town but your actions is not.

Voss you remind me of the slick Magician that has everyone looking at your words so they don't see your actions.

[Voss]

Oh so the one time I don't follow Slaol's orders, I'm not pro town. But when I was doing that, I still wasn't pro town. Seems to me you think I'm not pro town for some other reason other than following/not following Slaol. Might it be some desperate attempt to just paint me as scum because I'm onto you? Your flip floppy ness is showing.

Why did you respond to my accusation with an attack instead of trying to disprove what I was positing? Bringing up the tie breaker Slaol topic was redirection.

Slaol said Kenny or Gyr right? Fine. I'm probably going to be Gyr's defense prosecution.

Spoiler : cvote :

Kenny,Mike,MarshmallowMarshall,Magoroth,LightYagam i,Gyrlander,Distorted,Numbertwo,Voss,

[Voss]

and now you are trying to detract the fact me Saying you wanted the 50/50 lych in jury chat. Yes you did amit to it but you quickly tried to get the topic off that and on me again. 2+2 don't add to 4 with you Voss.

Click your posts. The evidence below is in the context. I said you didn't talking about rigging. You bring up the fact that I was against tieing up the vote. And you're accusing ME of 'getting off topic'

Voss you where there so my question is why are you playing like I never said it.

Plus are you denying that you said that about splitting the. Votes50/50?

These were literally said back to back.

[Mike]

Oh so the one time I don't follow Slaol's orders, I'm not pro town. But when I was doing that, I still wasn't pro town. Seems to me you think I'm not pro town for some other reason other than following/not following Slaol. Might it be some desperate attempt to just paint me as scum because I'm onto you? Your flip floppy ness is showing.

Why did you respond to my accusation with an attack instead of trying to disprove what I was positing? Bringing up the tie breaker Slaol topic was redirection.

Slaol said Kenny or Gyr right? Fine. I'm probably going to be Gyr's defense prosecution.

Spoiler : cvote :

Kenny,Mike,MarshmallowMarshall,Magoroth,LightYagam i,Gyrlander,Distorted,Numbertwo,Voss,

no you have not been voting with him from d1 you have not. you have said you are with him but the prof is that you have not been.

I have not been flop flopping at all. and no i am not painting you I have suspected you since d1. Yes my first suspect was MM Damas team. and I dare anyone to reread the posts and prove me wrong. And Damas was scum ( thank your bomber I would have picked Gry not blink if i was bomber) Sorry try but With your defense at the time Yes I would have picked you over blink. Voss the one person that was on your side you put way up on your list just because He did not agree with you. and yet you are saying that is exactly what I am doing.

What I am doing is pointing out facts. You see Voss I am not afraid to be lyched because if town wins I win. So If i ruffle a few feathers to scum hunt I will. only way town loses if we just sit on our buts and do nothing. that is what scum wants ( MAfia + bomber) more we hunt the more info we find.

[Mike]

Click your posts. The evidence below is in the context. I said you didn't talking about rigging. You bring up the fact that I was against tieing up the vote. And you're accusing ME of 'getting off topic'


These were literally said back to back.

Yes, So what is your point? this only proves what I have been saying.

When i put my info out you freaked out the same way you did with Blink when i agreed with him. So I read you as scum.

[Voss]

no you have not been voting with him from d1 you have not. you have said you are with him but the prof is that you have not been.

[QUOTE=Mike;776750]

evidence please. bonus points if you can prove that someone else has follow

I have not been flop flopping at all. and no i am not painting you I have suspected you since d1. Yes my first suspect was MM Damas team. and I dare anyone to reread the posts and prove me wrong.

prove you wrong about MM Damus? or about me? What does MM/Damus have to do with what you're saying. Sounds like redirect confusio

And Damas was scum ( thank your bomber I would have picked Gry not blink if i was bomber) Sorry try but With your defense at the time Yes I would have picked you over blink.

I have no idea what this is supposed to reference. What does this mean?

Voss the one person that was on your side you put way up on your list just because He did not agree with you.

Who town read me that I bussed? Or am I not understanding this too.

and yet you are saying that is exactly what I am doing.

What is it that you say you are doing??

What I am doing is pointing out facts.

When have you ever pointed out facts??

You see Voss I am not afraid to be lyched because if town wins I win. So If i ruffle a few feathers to scum hunt I will. only way town loses if we just sit on our buts and do nothing. that is what scum wants ( MAfia + bomber) more we hunt the more info we find.

This is just motivational pep talk fluff.

[Voss]

uh if anyone quotes the above post, make sure they preview it so the quote tags aren't fucked up.

[Voss]

no you have not been voting with him from d1 you have not. you have said you are with him but the prof is that you have not been.

evidence please. bonus points if you can prove that someone else has followed slaol more than I have

I have not been flop flopping at all. and no i am not painting you I have suspected you since d1. Yes my first suspect was MM Damas team. and I dare anyone to reread the posts and prove me wrong.

prove you wrong about MM Damus? or about me? What does MM/Damus have to do with what you're saying. Sounds like redirect confusio

And Damas was scum ( thank your bomber I would have picked Gry not blink if i was bomber) Sorry try but With your defense at the time Yes I would have picked you over blink.

I have no idea what this is supposed to reference. What does this mean?

Voss the one person that was on your side you put way up on your list just because He did not agree with you.

Who town read me that I bussed? Or am I not understanding this too.

and yet you are saying that is exactly what I am doing.

What is it that you say you are doing??

What I am doing is pointing out facts.

When have you ever pointed out facts??

You see Voss I am not afraid to be lyched because if town wins I win. So If i ruffle a few feathers to scum hunt I will. only way town loses if we just sit on our buts and do nothing. that is what scum wants ( MAfia + bomber) more we hunt the more info we find.

This is just motivational pep talk fluff.

[Voss]

Yes, So what is your point? this only proves what I have been saying.

When i put my info out you freaked out the same way you did with Blink when i agreed with him. So I read you as scum.

How does it prove your point? What info did you put out? What did you agree with Blink? What posts did I freak out in (posts with Blink/you in context)?

I'm done here because I've already taken up too much of the day chat.

[Mike]

What I find interesting I pushed MM and Distorted the hardest. Yet no response. they did not fight it they only provided facts. Mag I have not really push don't know how yet with him. Gry and Kenny everyone else has been pushing. Light well light is light. but every time I push you I get a different response. This is a big reason I find you scummy.

Only thing with you Voss I am afraid of is the possibility of 2 Towns pushing each other. I did think that for a while. but leaning more on the bomber / mafia side now. am I 100% sure no I am not because well no way to know 100%

MM brought up a very good point about 100 posts or so back. We need al the town we can keep so scum don't out vote town. And Aivion already said that if bomber and scum get 3 guilty votes in a row both MAFIA and bomber win so TOWN don't forget that win con the 3 may be working together.

This is why I was saying we have to be smart. This is why I wanted to save number 2 for tomorrow ( our get out of jail free card) So that the bomber and Mafia will have to fight each other and can't win together. This is why I am pushing everyone because no one is garentted Town except Slaol. Once we say Hey this is my Town core if we put a scum in that core Town just lost. This is why I am saying WE NEED TO FIND SCUM

[Mike]

[QUOTE=Voss;776753]

evidence please. bonus points if you can prove that someone else has follow



prove you wrong about MM Damus? or about me? What does MM/Damus have to do with what you're saying. Sounds like redirect confusio



I have no idea what this is supposed to reference. What does this mean?



Who town read me that I bussed? Or am I not understanding this too.



What is it that you say you are doing??


When have you ever pointed out facts??




This is just motivational pep talk fluff.

Wow you are good of really turning crap around. and no fluff it is all facts.

[Gyrlander]

Yeah... Voss, don't even try lmao.

Also, why do you townread me?

[Mike]

How does it prove your point? What info did you put out? What did you agree with Blink? What posts did I freak out in (posts with Blink/you in context)?

I'm done here because I've already taken up too much of the day chat.

Wow you are Right I am just full of shit I have not helped town at all. I have not even once given town any useful info. and you are right I never agreed wit hBlink that is why I was Scum read d1 for no reason at all we'll VOS HERE IT IS

MM now feels scum When MM was town he would not put an easy vote from something so low on information.
I am going to going to call what I suspect as scum team of at lest 2 MM and Damas. they seem to alike. MM knows I am normally not fare off on reads so scum will want me gone fast. I was on Yzb25 and PTB first game day 1 and they where scum I was on Mag second game day 1 and they where scum. MM knows this. I dont see him trying to vote me this hard unless he sees me as a threat. So yes I read MM as hard scum. Remember in the setup scum has a privet scum chat. (if i read that corectly) They have scum painted me from the start.

My day 1 post

i don't think damus and mm would allow themselves to be so alike if they were mafia

voss reply to my post

We won't lose if scum claiming IDA says to inno trial the Defendant once. It'd have to be twice.

Okay so courtroom bomber is actually evil, not benign. Ugh these hosts and their inconsistent colors.

Everyone has to think of the HARMS of creating a space to let our benign neutrals claim. I don't see harm to the town or the benign neutrals in co-existing together/winning together.

Spoiler : cvote :

Gyrlander,Numbertwo,Stealthbomber16,Mike,Distorted ,DamusGraves,LightYagami,Blinkskater,Magoroth,Mars hmallowMarshall,Kenny,Voss,

Vosses first vote.

I strongly disagree with neutrals claiming, voss you are just opening doors for scum to possibly claim, and let the neutrald cackle in delight. Its a scumsided terrible idea. The neutrals wont want to CC. Theres way to much at stake for them. You are going lower on my lost now.

blinks response to Voss asking Nuet to come out

i mean if you're looking for excuses to move me up on your list without really putting brain power into it, thennnnn you're welcome!

If I was a benign neutral, I'd claim. If no one ccs me Day1, I'd expect people to believe my claim. If someone ccs me Day 3, I'd expect town to believe me and lynch the other claim (this closes doors for scum claiming neutral down the line). If they were actually neutral, town would just be able to move on and get me the next day. It's not like there's a mafia kill.

But please, everyone, scum read me for thinking outside the box.

or actually try to establish a dialogue with me and explain where my thinking is going wrong. I DO NOT SEE WHERE I'M GIVING NEUTRALS AN AREA TO CACKLE IN THE DARK.

Vosses reply to that message from blink.

Other neutrals can CC, hell even town can CC to get off mafias radar. Tbh its just a no and forever will be a no. Scum can claim a neut role amd run with it because neutrals dont want to cc and imho its in their best interests not to. I look for players who i think try and promote scum strats and disguise them as town strats. So from my pov you look scummy. Can you not blame me based on how i read things?

Blinks response to Voss

I blame you for how you're reading things yes. Why should I be scared on what I have to say as town.

1. Other Neutrals can CC
Yes that is entirely the point. If we have 3 neutral claims, we lynch between them for one scum elimination. THIS IS A PLUS

2. Even town can CC to get off mafias radar.
Only a STUPID STUPID STUPID and selfish towns member would claim neutral and they deserve to get voted out. This is ANOTHER plus for me

3. Scum can claim a neut role amd run with it because neutrals dont want to cc
I'm trying to get neutrals to WANT to cc TODAY. That's what makes this all work. If the 3rd neutral claims on a day that isn't the same as the day of the second neutral claim, they should be LYNCHED. If we have that threat, then we can make sure the REAL neutrals claim, and the scum don't hide amongst them.

Plan still seems foolproof to me.

Vosses responce to Blink

moving you to the top, not because you're scum reading me for my plan, but for out of game emotional appeal that I don't want to deal with

Spoiler : cvote :

Gyrlander,Blinkskater,Numbertwo,Stealthbomber16,Mi ke,Distorted,DamusGraves,LightYagami,Magoroth,Mars hmallowMarshall,Kenny,Voss,

but please, keep talking to me about how you think the neutral claim plays out.

voss changing her vote.

Tbh i randomly put you somewhere higher, i felt the color in the place you were on the list represented you perfectly at the moment. I also think you want someone to claim neutral so you can CC them. Then get them lynched. And tell us all it was part of your plan as a townie because you knew a scum or actual evil neutral would claim. Youd get lots of towncred as a scum for that move.

Blink responding to one of losses statements.

Makes a valid Point.

Me responding to Blinks above comment. post #304 if you want to check it Voss since you don’t remember that.

QUOTE=Mike;773848]Makes a valid Point.

oh HELLO actual scum.

Spoiler : cvote :

Mike,Blinkskater,Gyrlander,Numbertwo,Stealthbomber 16,Distorted,DamusGraves,LightYagami,Magoroth,Mars hmallowMarshall,Kenny,Voss,

[/QUOTE]


Notice I then became Scum number 1 for a long time that day.

Wow because I agreed he make a valid point makes me scum??????? Interesting Did blink hit a nerve? and the point I saw it scare you? You where a big town read until this last post.

My response to Voss

Spoiler : cvote :

Voss,blinkskater,LightYagami,Kenny,DamusGraves,Dis torted,Numbertwo,Gyrlander,Stealthbomber16,

I changed my vote at this time.

You were alright with my reaction to blinks statement up until i called you out on it. You literally can't keep your story straight.

Hello boys, I've literally found scum #1 for everyone here.

and here is where Voss started I was I was Flip flop. once I changed my vote to Voss number 1. Don’t belive me go Look it up Voss. The logs are still there

[Mike]

Sorry it is so long but I added the whole thing so Voss can't take anything out of context.

[Voss]

Yeah... Voss, don't even try lmao.

Also, why do you townread me?

i think you would have played differently if you were the bomber. you wouldn't have gotten yourself as the prosecuting attorney in our first trial. now that I think about it, you could be a maybe.

I don't see you as mafia because of your first post in day 2 or so, stating the reasons why you wouldn't be scum. The content was eh, but the delivery of it is what speaks you as town for me. Also, you've never discredited Slaol except for the fact that Slaol scumreads you.


And damn MIke. I'm trying to diffuse, but you put a wall post up. I can keep going, but I don't think the other players would agree

[Distorted]

i think you would have played differently if you were the bomber. you wouldn't have gotten yourself as the prosecuting attorney in our first trial. now that I think about it, you could be a maybe.

I don't see you as mafia because of your first post in day 2 or so, stating the reasons why you wouldn't be scum. The content was eh, but the delivery of it is what speaks you as town for me. Also, you've never discredited Slaol except for the fact that Slaol scumreads you.


And damn MIke. I'm trying to diffuse, but you put a wall post up. I can keep going, but I don't think the other players would agree

actaully responses to mikes wallpost would be nice...he literally laid out exactly what you said you have not been doing and showed you doing it..... lol im starting to see his point honestly.

[Voss]

Wow you are Right I am just full of shit I have not helped town at all. I have not even once given town any useful info. and you are right I never agreed wit hBlink that is why I was Scum read d1 for no reason at all we'll VOS HERE IT IS

I've never said any of this. Your post was unclear. I asked for clarification, and now you're saying that I said
- you're not helping town
- giving town bad info
- you never agreed with Blink.

Post for context

How does it prove your point? What info did you put out? What did you agree with Blink? What posts did I freak out in (posts with Blink/you in context)?

I'm done here because I've already taken up too much of the day chat.

Because you're again misrepresenting posts so blatantly, I won't bother reading anything else of this. Try again when you're ready to talk to me about reality.