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    S-FM: Clown town

    13 player game where everyone is a jester in addition to being their role.

    3 mafia
    9 town, guaranteed at least 3 PRs and at least 3 Cits
    1 neutral which may be evil or neutral

    - Jester Facts -
    Mafia jesters can pick their jester kill upon lynch
    Town jesters are randomized
    Neutral evils kill half the voters. 1 random and the others are chosen alphabetically
    Neutral benign remove the power role of all voters

    - KEY FEATURES READ THIS SETUP SKIMMERS -
    No role claiming at all under any circumstance. No referencing anything from the role card PM at all. Instant modkill on first offense no warnings love you thanks bye, cirer
    Lynch vote will be 33.33% rounded up, unless a mayor reveals in which case he will have the only vote and can not suicide by a town role
    Grave will have roles revealed with no alignment revealed.

    Roles, including crier, can be any of the followint. Sheriff, doctor, crier, veteran, vigilante, jailor, detective, investigator, lookout, crier, mafioso, bodyguard, godfather, consigliere, crier, janitor, escort, crier, consort, coroner, serial killer, cultist, mason, arsonist, crier, survivor, jester, executioner, crier, marshall, citizen, witch doctor, witch, bus driver, beguiler, framer, blackmailer, drug dealer i guess for mostly wifom
    Role settings can be unique to the player, for example 2 vigilantes may have different shots or a citizen may have a vest, etc
    OoO is from Sc2
    Win cons like Sc2
    Days will be determined by a formula that follows as such. Hours = 24 + players + (lynch the previous day x 4) - hours left after the lynch + (players dead at night x 0.5) - neutrals
    Nights will be a surprise but no shorter than 24 hours, crier

    Wip

    Who do i need to @ to get this approved asap
    Last edited by Slaol; December 3rd, 2018 at 10:38 AM.

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    @Marshmallow Marshall

    This looks sexy. :3

    Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
    Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
    If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.

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    Ganelon
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    Re: S-FM: Clown town

    What's the factional wincons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AIVION View Post
    @Marshmallow Marshall

    This looks sexy. :3
    Thanks.
    @Slaol , you say this is a WIP (and it is) so I cannot approve it right now, obviously. The idea is good, though, so I'm looking foward to more stuff added to it! Now, some questions.

    You say that the roles can be "any from sc2", but that alignments aren't revealed upon death. Does that mean that there can be a Mafia Doctor or something like that? In other words, can any role be of any alignment?

    I assume that the OoO is the same than the one on the mod (which can be found here)?

    Concern: Killing all voters might be a tiny bit gamebreaking, plus it discourages putting votes, which is a bad thing. I really think this needs to be either changed or balanced by something else somewhere.

    will edit later
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM: Clown town

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Thanks.
    @Slaol , you say this is a WIP (and it is) so I cannot approve it right now, obviously. The idea is good, though, so I'm looking foward to more stuff added to it! Now, some questions.

    You say that the roles can be "any from sc2", but that alignments aren't revealed upon death. Does that mean that there can be a Mafia Doctor or something like that? In other words, can any role be of any alignment?

    I assume that the OoO is the same than the one on the mod (which can be found here)?

    Concern: Killing all voters might be a tiny bit gamebreaking, plus it discourages putting votes, which is a bad thing. I really think this needs to be either changed or balanced by something else somewhere.

    will edit later
    Yes. As well the benign win con could be any of the benign win cons while the role is unrelated. For example, a jester wincon on a neutral benign doctor

    Yes OoO is the standard. Do people still stress this with a competant host?

    Your concern need not be as it is.

    Also while the formatting of this is currently WIP frankly i have already decided everything and im ready to host.

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    Re: S-FM: Clown town

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Yes. As well the benign win con could be any of the benign win cons while the role is unrelated. For example, a jester wincon on a neutral benign doctor

    Yes OoO is the standard. Do people still stress this with a competant host?

    Your concern need not be as it is.

    Also while the formatting of this is currently WIP frankly i have already decided everything and im ready to host.
    Ok

    Ok, you should probably put that link to OoO in the setup just so you don't get spam asked what happens when :P also are you asking if we are applying the OoO's of our setups....???? Of course we do.

    . . . . . well it still stands and I'd like it to be discussed, please.


    A complete rule set would also be useful, and so would day/night lenght.

    The roles on the mod have a lot of settings, so it would be good to list the roles with their pertinent rulings, or simply a list of special stuff if you're not wanting to do a full list.

    The Judge role being impossible to use on here, will the FM variant (narrow the lynch pool to two people, if noone gets voted to death both die at EoD) be used? Will you need the Crier account?

    Saying that any roles from the mod can be used needs more details about the said roles, the questions above are just some examples.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    No im asking if we are assuming a competent host cant manage a game.

    I said OoO will be like Sc2. Specific settings can be custom to a player.

    Crier just makes a post before the day. Fuck.
    Okay ima just pop down a list of roles gimme 8 seconds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    No im asking if we are assuming a competent host cant manage a game.

    I said OoO will be like Sc2. Specific settings can be custom to a player.

    Crier just makes a post before the day. Fuck.
    Okay ima just pop down a list of roles gimme 8 seconds
    ...Okay, let's not get in a pissing contest here please :P

    So the possible roles with their attributes aren't totally known, right?

    Oh, that kind of crier? OK lol

    Yay
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    ...Okay, let's not get in a pissing contest here please :P

    So the possible roles with their attributes aren't totally known, right?

    Oh, that kind of crier? OK lol

    Yay
    Its not a pissing match. Just silly i should have just said "fuck it setup is hidden" lol.

    No any player could have any role, with any custom specialization

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    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM: Clown town

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    13 player game where everyone is a jester in addition to being their role.

    3 mafia
    9 town, guaranteed at least 3 PRs and at least 3 Cits
    1 neutral which may be evil or neutral

    - Jester Facts -
    Mafia jesters can pick their jester kill upon lynch
    Town jesters are randomized
    Neutral evils kill all voters
    Neutral benign remove the power role of all voters

    - KEY FEATURES READ THIS SETUP SKIMMERS -
    No role claiming at all under any circumstance. No referencing anything from the role card PM at all. Instant modkill on first offense no warnings love you thanks bye
    Lynch vote will be 33.33%+1 unless a mayor reveals in which case he will have the only vote and can not suicide by a town role
    Grave will have roles revealed with no alignment revealed.

    Roles can be any of the followint. Sheriff, doctor, veteran, vigilante, jailor, detective, investigator, lookout, crier, mafioso, bodyguard, godfather, consigliere, janitor, escort, consort, coroner, serial killer, cultist, mason, arsonist, survivor, jester, executioner, crier, marshall, citizen, witch doctor, witch, bus driver, beguiler, framer, blackmailer, drug dealer i guess for mostly wifom
    Role settings can be unique to the player, for example 2 vigilantes may have different shots or a citizen may have a vest, etc
    OoO is from Sc2
    Win cons like Sc2

    Wip

    Who do i need to @ to get this approved asap
    Interesting setup. This reminds me a lot of Vengeful.

    I myself see nothing wrong with it.

    There is, however, the question of how you're going to deal with potential paradoxes like bus driver/escort/witch/beguiler combinations.
    Normally in SC2, the sequences would be run a random number of times to avoid gamebreaking results, and I've personally seen an FM where the sequences were run as many times as necessary.

    I hope this is actually true hahaha
    Last edited by ; November 16th, 2018 at 01:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Its not a pissing match. Just silly i should have just said "fuck it setup is hidden" lol.

    No any player could have any role, with any custom specialization
    Ok great!

    Two last things: the neutral evil, I still want to know what you're gonna do with it lol. Couldn't it be just... kill one guy of your choice and audit all other voters? I hate the idea of seeing 6 (or 7?) deaths on D1 xD it doesn't work

    When you'll have time, it'd be nice to make the role list more visually good to read. More eye-huggy <3
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    Interesting setup. This reminds me a lot of Vengeful.

    I myself see nothing wrong with it.

    I hope this is actually true hahaha
    I nearly posted a novel about Vengeful game and the tons of flaws it had. But this solves it: town doesn't get to choose their kill! So there's no weird ass lynching your townreads to avoid giving mafia a kill.

    The setup is pretty good yep

    YESSSS
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Day 1 lynch is only 5 people. Im using 33.3% as a lynch, not majoriry
    Yes, + the neutral evil himself. That's 5 + 1 = 6 deaths on D1. Nearly half the game dead. It's not balanced: it's gamebreaking. And it would be on D2 too, where deaths would probably be like 4? One role should not have the ability to make the game do a 180 only by its role. I literally cannot approve this setup if this stays like that. Unless you want the game to become a meme
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: S-FM: Clown town

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Yes, + the neutral evil himself. That's 5 + 1 = 6 deaths on D1. Nearly half the game dead. It's not balanced: it's gamebreaking. And it would be on D2 too, where deaths would probably be like 4? One role should not have the ability to make the game do a 180 only by its role. I literally cannot approve this setup if this stays like that. Unless you want the game to become a meme
    Problem is that neutral evil doesn't want to get lynched. So they won't exactly be in any hurry of acting scummy lol

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    Re: S-FM: Clown town

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    Interesting setup. This reminds me a lot of Vengeful.

    I myself see nothing wrong with it.

    There is, however, the question of how you're going to deal with potential paradoxes like bus driver/escort/witch/beguiler combinations.
    Normally in SC2, the sequences would be run a random number of times to avoid gamebreaking results, and I've personally seen an FM where the sequences were run as many times as necessary.

    I hope this is actually true hahaha
    Im gonna modkill the fucking shit out of role claimers.

    Ill solve it though basic logical steps. Ill also not put in too many damned roles to cause it.

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    Re: S-FM: Clown town

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Yes, + the neutral evil himself. That's 5 + 1 = 6 deaths on D1. Nearly half the game dead. It's not balanced: it's gamebreaking. And it would be on D2 too, where deaths would probably be like 4? One role should not have the ability to make the game do a 180 only by its role. I literally cannot approve this setup if this stays like that. Unless you want the game to become a meme
    Yet you allow arsonist in

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    Re: S-FM: Clown town

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Halved it
    Good. If you really want more explainations on that, pm me on discord (The Dark Lord on there, with a zeratul avatar) and I'll be glad to

    And now, Approved. When would you like to host this? The Turnabout game should take a while, and the FM event shouldn't be in too long... idk when to put it honestly, would you be able to host it in something like a week? I can put it right after Turnabout in the queue.

    I still think it's a good idea to polish the setup's look when you have time btw.

    @Slaol
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Good. If you really want more explainations on that, pm me on discord (The Dark Lord on there, with a zeratul avatar) and I'll be glad to

    And now, Approved. When would you like to host this? The Turnabout game should take a while, and the FM event shouldn't be in too long... idk when to put it honestly, would you be able to host it in something like a week? I can put it right after Turnabout in the queue.

    I still think it's a good idea to polish the setup's look when you have time btw.

    @Slaol
    Id like to jump Turnabout if thats okay. Turnabout needs some player talent and Cryptonic told me he was sitting out a bit so i may have come up with this specifically to try to kill time for him to come back for a quality game of turnabout.

    If thats uncool im still all about this game but that was my original idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Id like to jump Turnabout if thats okay. Turnabout needs some player talent and Cryptonic told me he was sitting out a bit so i may have come up with this specifically to try to kill time for him to come back for a quality game of turnabout.

    If thats uncool im still all about this game but that was my original idea
    The signups are kinda already open and I have already delayed Turnabout twice for other games... I think I'd just put this one after Turnabout. Nothing says it won't get re-hosted, nor that Crypt won't sign if it takes more time to get people (but yes it's doubtful). Would you really mind to go right after Turnabout?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Re: S-FM: Clown town

    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    I wouldnt, especially if youve postponed already, but straight up i came up with this setup while driving home because i saw Xryptonic was gonna miss turnabout and i wanted to prevent that.

    Ill follow turnabout
    That's 100% honourable lol. If I hadn't already delayed the game and that signups weren't posted I'd say yes, but yea. Thanks ♥ (pls no dating )

    Updating queue and going to bed now, it's 11 am... pm me/post here if you have any questions or whatever and I'll be here tomorrow.

    Btw you could post signups when Turnabout is ending soon, you don't have to wait until game is officially over to lauch signups. Somewhere like on D4 or D3 if there aren't a lot of people alive should be good.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaol View Post
    Dont tell me how to live my life
    Don't tell me how to live mine either

    and u kinda just did

    time for circlejerk though

    or sleep...
    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawyer View Post
    Besides your lamp and your refridgerators, do you find anyone else suspicious?
    Quote Originally Posted by oliverz144 View Post
    it looks like many, e.g. MM and lag, suffered under the influence of paopan. However there is a victim: frinckles. He left the path of rationality and fully dived into the parallel reality of baby shark, king shark, and soviet union pizzas.
    Spoiler : The meaning of life :

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