S-FM Sengoku Jidai

[FM-Kazushige]

Not dedicated, just that the person is an a-hole who doesn't care about the game and therefore doesn't show respect to their fellow players.

Yes I know it was risky, I'll explain post game further, but I wanted to test some laws of Mafia in an unranked game where I saw a good situation to test them xD

I'm actually becoming inclined to trust you. If you are scum, MVP wouldent expect you to have this kind of scum game.

[FM-Sorai]

not true. Scum will defend town the hardest because they "know htey are town" so it makes them look really good. I usually lynch people who hard defend a logically good mis-lynch.

totally agree with it

you are the yoshi guy right?

[FM-Tokuhei]

FM-Sorai (4 [L-3]):
FM-Masaharu, FM-Robun, FM-Tokuhei, FM-Shuzo

FM-Tokuhei (4 [L-3]):
FM-Munenori, FM-Naonobu, FM-Taheiji, FM-Etsuya

we currently stand evenly divided.

Kazu is unable to see the Light though. He's going to vote me and the world will fall.

[FM-Shuzo]

its always a sad day when the cherry blossoms fall. it means a dark and cold winter is coming.

[FM-Sorai]

its always a sad day when the cherry blossoms fall. it means a dark and cold winter is coming.

stfu stop shitposting i hate it godammit

[FM-Kazushige]

Time to explain myself now before I get attacked IRL >=O


I wanted to test if fake claiming and holding it as town in a CC way against a scum read could be viable and save games. Conclusion: yes but it's ballsy and risky, and this time it was shitty XD

lets find out, im all for figuring out game mechanics.

-vote fm-sorai

i swear to god @fm-takuhei ............. huge props if you have this level of scum game.

[FM-Tokuhei]

its always a sad day when the cherry blossoms fall. it means a dark and cold winter is coming.

[FM-Takeru]

But there's no risk in that. Unless you're scum. With Sorai.

There is also no risk by lynching you, but we will get more informations. That's why I want to lynch you (and not him) right now.
I believe I made that point pretty clear.

[FM-Sorai]

lets find out, im all for figuring out game mechanics.

-vote fm-sorai

i swear to god @fm-takuhei ............. huge props if you have this level of scum game.

wtf why me now?

[FM-Takeru]

lets find out, im all for figuring out game mechanics.

-vote fm-sorai

i swear to god @fm-takuhei ............. huge props if you have this level of scum game.

Are you really serious? oO

[FM-Tokuhei]

lets find out, im all for figuring out game mechanics.

-vote fm-sorai

i swear to god @fm-takuhei ............. huge props if you have this level of scum game.

Lol okay

If Sorai flips scum, I will have solved the game

[FM-Tokuhei]

There is also no risk by lynching you, but we will get more informations. That's why I want to lynch you (and not him) right now.
I believe I made that point pretty clear.

You are not explaining your words, but deflecting on another subject. That's what scums do when they are caught slipping.

Are you really serious? oO

[FM-Kazushige]

Not only that but also we can reread all the interactions.
You made a dumb move but in some ways, you interacted with almost everyone, and that will be helpful.

honestly, I feel a tak lynch would be the best..but I think its too late to do it.

Jailor, it looks like we are going all out on trusting that Toku is town and just made a stupid. Jail Tak. The heaviness of his defense and push to keep the lynch going is slightly odd, almost like mafia is trying to ride a WFIOM and keep it running. I ahve been in this situation before, and it is feeling very familiar.

[FM-Sorai]

Lol okay

If Sorai flips scum, I will have solved the game

yeah lets lynch me i want everyone scumreaded who voted me

[FM-Takeru]

not true. Scum will defend town the hardest because they "know htey are town" so it makes them look really good. I usually lynch people who hard defend a logically good mis-lynch.

I agree with you, but my point was mostly to say that his lynch will give us a lot of informations, where Sorai lynch won't give us shit if he flip town.

[FM-Kazushige]

no dude im serious y'all have too similiar names i cant see the difference and am scared of accidentally reading someone wrongly

i can say the sakurai guy is comfirmed town unless he survives that day
i can say that the WoW loving fireice guy who is scumreaded by most people and voted is either scum or pro pro town
i can say that you can be a oppurtunistic scum and it would fit well with icefire guy i think AH IDK IT MIGHT BE TAKERU TOO
how about we get Etsuya or something?

however, being on the chopping block, i dont see him saying his scum mate is confirmed town. this is odd as well.

[FM-Sorai]

honestly, I feel a tak lynch would be the best..but I think its too late to do it.

Jailor, it looks like we are going all out on trusting that Toku is town and just made a stupid. Jail Tak. The heaviness of his defense and push to keep the lynch going is slightly odd, almost like mafia is trying to ride a WFIOM and keep it running. I ahve been in this situation before, and it is feeling very familiar.

oppourtunistic scum right here!
why are you scumreading me for the stupidity Early Game Sorai did?

[FM-Tokuhei]

yeah lets lynch me i want everyone scumreaded who voted me

Honestly you played good, but Takeru is outing you lol

inb4 you're town and I'm making a fool of myself ;-;

[FM-Sorai]

however, being on the chopping block, i dont see him saying his scum mate is confirmed town. this is odd as well.

this is bussing i suppose idk

[FM-Takeru]

Honestly you played good, but Takeru is outing you lol

inb4 you're town and I'm making a fool of myself ;-;

I am outing shit xD
I am giving my opinion and I still think that's dumb to lynch him over you.

[FM-Sorai]

Honestly you played good, but Takeru is outing you lol

inb4 you're town and I'm making a fool of myself ;-;

wait where am i getting outed? is takeru making a mistake or are you both scum buddies bussing eachother all day and then getting the scapegoat (me)

ANYWAY LYNCH ME NIBBA LYNCH ME I WANT YOU AND TAK DEAD FOR THAT NEXT!

[FM-Shuzo]

wtf why me now?

why me you ask. you ask like you werent already informed of the reasoning. and why me instead of trying is scummy as all hell.

[FM-Kazushige]

@Magoroth if the lynch vote remains a draw does neither die or both?

usually a coin toss

[FM-Takeru]

however, being on the chopping block, i dont see him saying his scum mate is confirmed town. this is odd as well.

You are odd as fuck by switching your vote.

[FM-Kazushige]

FM-Sorai (4 [L-3]):
FM-Masaharu, FM-Robun, FM-Tokuhei, FM-Shuzo

FM-Tokuhei (4 [L-3]):
FM-Munenori, FM-Naonobu, FM-Taheiji, FM-Etsuya

we currently stand evenly divided.

all I think we can say is there is heavy scum influence on 1 side.... meaning either both are town, 1 is town 1 is scum. no way they are both scum.

[FM-Sorai]

I am outing shit xD
I am giving my opinion and I still think that's dumb to lynch him over you.

ah f this

-vote FM-Tokuhei

lynch him and get the flip info or else you are scum i ffs give up

[FM-Shuzo]

wait where am i getting outed? is takeru making a mistake or are you both scum buddies bussing eachother all day and then getting the scapegoat (me)

ANYWAY LYNCH ME NIBBA LYNCH ME I WANT YOU AND TAK DEAD FOR THAT NEXT!

now you are scared you have the darkness of fear in your eyes. perhaps, you should look into the eyes of our holy emperor and see his divine light and truth for your own eyes.

[FM-Sorai]

why me you ask. you ask like you werent already informed of the reasoning. and why me instead of trying is scummy as all hell.

i didnt ask you and you are a scumread so stfu

You are odd as fuck by switching your vote.

ikr i actually think we are both fooling ourselves and scenario A says kazu is evil

[FM-Tokuhei]

ah f this

-vote FM-Tokuhei

lynch him and get the flip info or else you are scum i ffs give up

The scum selfpres vote now

[FM-Sorai]

now you are scared you have the darkness of fear in your eyes. perhaps, you should look into the eyes of our holy emperor and see his divine light and truth for your own eyes.

STOP SHITPOSTING FOR THE FINAL TIME STOP!

[FM-Takeru]

all I think we can say is there is heavy scum influence on 1 side.... meaning either both are town, 1 is town 1 is scum. no way they are both scum.

If tokuhei is town, that mean the blackmailer chosed a town to target another town, I was actually thinking they did that when I read early D2.
And you said it was almost impossible they chosed two towns for that.
So what do you think now?
They did chosed two towns?

[FM-Sorai]

The scum selfpres vote now

i want to keep playing and yell at townies and out scums i dont want to die the same day i replaced someone! HE DOOMED ME!

[FM-Tokuhei]

i didnt ask you and you are a scumread so stfu



ikr i actually think we are both fooling ourselves and scenario A says kazu is evil

Which scenario A? I mean, even if I found Kazu extremely scummy, he's un-CC'd herald after a full day............. so how do you call him scum lol

[Ganelon]

@Magoroth if the lynch vote remains a draw does neither die or both?

That would be a tie. Ties are resolved by RNG. Only one will die.

[FM-Takeru]

@FM-Kazushige
When did you notice Naonobu claimed a mafia role?

[FM-Sorai]

Which scenario A? I mean, even if I found Kazu extremely scummy, he's un-CC'd herald after a full day............. so how do you call him scum lol

scenario A for me is that Kazu and Shuzo are scums that stay behind the scenes and we all are confusing and scumreading eachother

[FM-Tokuhei]

i want to keep playing and yell at townies and out scums i dont want to die the same day i replaced someone! HE DOOMED ME!

No, Takeru did, if you are scum, because you played quite well tbh.

[FM-Sorai]

Guys IM NOT SORAI FROM DAY ONE AND DAY EARLY DAY 2 FFS LET ME PLAY MORE!!! I JUST REPLACED SOMEONE AND DONT WANT TO DIE OVER HIS STUPIDITY!

[FM-Tsuneyo]

-vote FM-Tokuhei

My asshole we're going to RNG this.

[FM-Kazushige]

I agree with you, but my point was mostly to say that his lynch will give us a lot of informations, where Sorai lynch won't give us shit if he flip town.

the only thing that Toku flipping town would give us is he did a horrible play and most likely become a meme. his lynch and flip as town is so logicall you cant really scumread anyone for pushing it, that is the issue. its the rare scenario of a true case of 'too scummy to be scum'. thats my feeling on it.

[FM-Tokuhei]

scenario A for me is that Kazu and Shuzo are scums that stay behind the scenes and we all are confusing and scumreading eachother

Nonsense, because there would need to be a CC of Herald for this to be viable. It is not. Which is why my claim was retracted.

[FM-Takeru]

No, Takeru did, if you are scum, because you played quite well tbh.

Where the fuck did he play well?
You started a lynch on him when you saw you were screwed after your claim.

[FM-Tsuneyo]

Phew, came just in time to fix this stupidity.

[FM-Sorai]

No, Takeru did, if you are scum, because you played quite well tbh.

and as town i am bad? dude stop assuming my playstyle I am the best town ever!

[FM-Kazushige]

oppourtunistic scum right here!
why are you scumreading me for the stupidity Early Game Sorai did?

im actually scumreading for D2. D1 i didnt have you as a scumread at all.

[FM-Tokuhei]

-vote FM-Tokuhei

My asshole we're going to RNG this.

I see the darkness of ignorance in your eyes, Tsuneyo...

[FM-Shuzo]

scenario A for me is that Kazu and Shuzo are scums that stay behind the scenes and we all are confusing and scumreading eachother

perhaps if you actually took your time and read everything you wouldnt say such things. you are trying to shift blame of the slip ups you and your predecessor made. to make me reach my conclusion and reinforce my conclusion.

[FM-Sorai]

im actually scumreading for D2. D1 i didnt have you as a scumread at all.

I WASNT HIM!!!

[FM-Kazushige]

I am outing shit xD
I am giving my opinion and I still think that's dumb to lynch him over you.

honestly, I feel like that to lol. I wish we had a marshall because Toku really does need lynched over that.... but i just do not see that kind of scum game happening right now. I mean, well fucking played if he is scum. I will still throw something at him, but well fucking played.

[FM-Tokuhei]

Where the fuck did he play well?
You started a lynch on him when you saw you were screwed after your claim.

He's not that scummy by itself, since it's obvious he is a replacement (or swapped personas lol). It's your behavior and your fear of Sorai's flip that makes you BOTH scummy as hell.