S-FM Sengoku Jidai

[FM-Masaharu]

I’ll return shortly.

[FM-Masaharu]

多分、この質問は以前に尋ねられたでしょう。設定が妥当でない場合は、設定にブラックメイヤー通気口または 偽装者があることが保証されていますか？

Please don’t reply to this in Japanese lol

[FM-Sorai]

I fail to see how that is a scumslip.

He called this government corrupt in a earlier post,
Thats clearly a scumslip for me.

[FM-Sorai]

Read, you piece of crap. Did you not see any of my posts except the first 3?

I did and am still sceptic

[FM-Takeru]

This was your “big” post, as I’d put it. It’s the kind of post where you come back from a break and leave commentary. And the commentary players leave here is often alignment indicative.

Everything you’ve stated here has been said before. Restatement is not protown. If you look at your posts alone they’re good, but in context they are just more passive versions of Tokuheis. Your vote is alright, but the placement stands out to me for... honestly no particular reason.

The bit that really gets me is when you state the reasoning is for the “bus slip”.

I added that line because I wanted to call out his potential scumpainting.

It looked like bussing. If we were both scum, that would absolutely be bussing. Is calling out someone who is buddying or bussing bad now? I’d prefer not to be scumread because of association.

I apologize if this looks like a series of assorted thoughts. I don’t have time to proofread.

Well, that is pretty simple, I had 11 pages to read when I arrived, I put everything 'interesting' in a file then when it was finished, I posted it.
I do it because, compared to some people who just reply at every post when they are catching up, I prefer to condensate everything.
Beside that, your post (#62) caught me when i was reading because I also felt like you were telling scum to not do something.
So compared to all other players, I had one reason to vote/push you, which I did.

[FM-Tokuhei]

多分、この質問は以前に尋ねられたでしょう。設定が妥当でない場合は、設定にブラックメイヤー通気口または 偽装者があることが保証されていますか？

...this is what I come back to... also I assume this is a question to the host? Then you should mention him.

[FM-Tokuhei]

Well, I feel weird about the 'Why is everyone town here', first it was only the 41th messages, that came out really early. Especially when a lot of people just didn't talk.





Madatory lynch.



I am pretty sure we can't think like that.

Beside theses posts, I kind of like what you said about Masaharu

-vote FM-Masaharu

Especially because of that :



is he telling the scumteam to not buss?

Ooooh plurality, okay. Well, I believe I'm going for Masaharu today, unless someone else is really, REALLY scummy.

[FM-Tokuhei]

Tokuhei: at the moment I have him as a town lean. However, I find that (if he's who I think he is), more often than not I always end up townreading him at the start. He's been active in prodding others and I honestly like that he turned towards me, rather than another player that's posted so far, having me pegged as possible scum. Moving on to what he's done in game so far: he's asked a bunch of questions to magaroth (NAI, really, especially where he said that scum wouldn't ask if they had a factional kill). Then he's interacted with the other players: He prodded Msaharu, Sorai, and Munenori (who to him are lurkers, posts 85/23/139 respectively). What I don't like so far however is post 96, where he addresses Naonobu like "ok here have some free town points". I feel like... this player (again this is just based on me guessing who he is, and I could of course always be wrong) usually doesn't hand out town reads that easily, and for him to do it to not only Kazushige/Robun (165) which I can kind of understand, but also Naonobu? I didn't really get that one. To me it feels like Naonobu is a town that doesn't participate much and Toku is trying to establish himself as town to naonobu by frequently addressing the latter despite their lack of posts, and although its not indicative of anything quite yet, it should also be mentioned that naonobu popped in/out a couple times and toku never did anything about it, but he went hard on masa/sora/mune's cases

You must construct additional coherence and text readability. Just noticed this because the post was quoted.

[FM-Tokuhei]

Hello there! I'm sad to tell you that I won't be able to participate during this day until 3 hours before EOD. For the sake of hiding my COM I won't specify. + I had some account issues.

All good. I am fully expecting activity from D2 and on though.

[FM-Tokuhei]

I edited it. There is indeed a conflict between the mechanics and some role abilities.Lynch is not mandatory, majority lynch, and last wills are allowed.

Oh okay

[FM-Tokuhei]

Ignore the first vote,
Kazushige might have done a potential scumslip by calling this government corrupt and Taheiji Is Talking Like This.

A lore slip? That's be a first... Maybe :P

What are your thoughts? You're just dropping votes everywhere without explaining them.

[FM-Tokuhei]

Has everyone checked in yet? Fuck there are so many names. I would say the person with the actor avatar, Masa I think, but I don't like how many people are already on that person already. They could STILL be scum tho, scum could be bussing them early on because once a train falls off someone it's sometimes hard to get it back on (thus securing their safety from a lynch). I still have no idea so far, and I'm pretty sure not every player has posted yet.

You feel distant. It's as if you were looking by cameras on a security room, without really seeing what people do. You seem to nullread pretty much everyone, with slight differences. Why do you think Masaharu, "the guy with actor avatar"?

[FM-Tokuhei]

Yes. So robun is probably a town slot for me right now, I really liked his TPR hardclaim.
As far as the interactions between tokuhei(?) and everyone else, I feel like tokuhei at the moment is a town with at least one opportunistic scum on him.
As far as kazushiges conversations go, it’s odd that every once in a while he’ll pop in and just spam some lore before suddenling tunneling someone, I’ll hold my thoughts on him until we get some more posts.
Takeru, I like that you’re going on sorai, could I get your thoughts on kazu and robun? I’ll come back later to see your response
@FM-Takeru

Yep, robun is a strong town read for me too.
I have the same feeling.
I believe we must be careful towards Kazu.


Now what I wonder is: Who could be aligned with Masaharu?

[Ganelon]

多分、この質問は以前に尋ねられたでしょう。設定が妥当でない場合は、設定にブラックメイヤー通気口または 偽装者があることが保証されていますか？

Etsuya's question, but in English:

Perhaps, this question would have been asked before. If the setting is invalid, is it guaranteed that there is a blackmayer vent or impersonator in the setting?

Yes, those roles made it into the setup. I tried to make it as clear as possible that if the setup were anon, I would replace Goon with Disguiser and would add a Ventriloquist. Which is what happened. When I rolled the roles, I accounted for the Ventriloquist and the Disguiser too. So it is possible for them to be in the current game.

For the record, I will be ignoring any further questions not addressed in English.

[FM-Tokuhei]

Hello fellow players! I have returned from my wary travels and I am ready to get down to business.

I will restate that while I appreciate Tokuheis aggression in finding a D1 lynch, it seems apparent that he is unwilling to find any other players to read. So, let me shift the focus a little bit.

-vote FM-Takeru

I feel like your posts so far have been mostly basic. You haven’t said anything that seems different or interesting to me yet. You’re going after low-hanging townpoints by calling out whatshisface for his voting pattern and by sheeping a train. You haven’t said anything new that was noteworthy. I’m currently throwing you into the opportunistic scum category, and i would like to encourage my fellow friends to reread Takerus posts and see what he has actually added.

I’ll bust down some of his posts for you if you would like, at the moment I must now return to my studies.

So, my highest scumread pops in, posts once, and that post says that one of my highest town reads is scummy, and that he has done nothing while he got info out of Sorai and Munemori. Great...

[FM-Tokuhei]

こんばんは。私は仕事中にいくつかの貢献をしようとしたが、私は中断し続けた

Sooo, he said that he tried to contribute but he was busy at work. The other post says he's tired and asks us to read setup. Thank you Google Translate.

[FM-Tokuhei]

I fail to see how that is a scumslip.

The government is Ashikaga (Town).

[FM-Tokuhei]

You're such a cherry picker

-vote FM-Takeru

I prefer sakura pickers.


Seriously though, WHERE DID THAT VOTE COME FROM? Did it spawn in the infernal abyss of opportunistic scums?

[FM-Tokuhei]

多分、この質問は以前に尋ねられたでしょう。設定が妥当でない場合は、設定にブラックメイヤー通気口または 偽装者があることが保証されていますか？

You just broke Google.

Perhaps, this question would have been asked before. If the setting is invalid, is it guaranteed that there is a blackmayer vent or impersonator in the setting?

[FM-Tokuhei]

I did and am still sceptic

Yet your vote was for a POLICY LYNCH. There's absolutely nothing to be sceptic about on Taheiji when you're talking about policy lynches. You just changed your reasons without saying why, and I'm not sure you're having a real one...

[FM-Tokuhei]

For the record, I will be ignoring any further questions not addressed in English.[/COLOR]

Our legacy... it was destroyed...

[FM-Masaharu]

Well that was like 12 posts that didn’t actually say anything we didn’t know.

Do you mind consolidating your posts a little bit more?

[FM-Tokuhei]

Well that was like 12 posts that didn’t actually say anything we didn’t know.

Do you mind consolidating your posts a little bit more?

uuuuuh? That was elaborating. And yes, I do mind, because multiquote is lame.

[FM-Masaharu]

uuuuuh? That was elaborating. And yes, I do mind, because multiquote is lame.

Don’t use multi quote, just copy paste from one box to the other.

[FM-Kazushige]

Yes. So robun is probably a town slot for me right now, I really liked his TPR hardclaim.
As far as the interactions between tokuhei(?) and everyone else, I feel like tokuhei at the moment is a town with at least one opportunistic scum on him.
As far as kazushiges conversations go, it’s odd that every once in a while he’ll pop in and just spam some lore before suddenling tunneling someone, I’ll hold my thoughts on him until we get some more posts.
Takeru, I like that you’re going on sorai, could I get your thoughts on kazu and robun? I’ll come back later to see your response
@FM-Takeru

Which game are you reading? lol I have given my complete thoughts on what we should do D1 lynch wise AND strategy/voting wise. I have given multiple alignments I feel are possible and I have my vote somewhere with reasons clearly stated. How is any of that spamming lore?

btw, besides my first post FIRST POST - where have I just posted lore?

[FM-Kazushige]

Yep, robun is a strong town read for me too.
I have the same feeling.
I believe we must be careful towards Kazu.


Now what I wonder is: Who could be aligned with Masaharu?

I think Robun is a good alignment for Masa. I don't get where the town read is coming from, but my scumread is more gut read on him with some opportunisticness/potential bussign showing. his voting on Masa seemed sheepy.

[FM-Kazushige]

The government is Ashikaga (Town).

so no1 has infiltrated the government? wtf are we fighting then lol @fm-sorei

[FM-Masaharu]

I think Robun is a good alignment for Masa. I don't get where the town read is coming from, but my scumread is more gut read on him with some opportunisticness/potential bussign showing. his voting on Masa seemed sheepy.

Where is your read on me coming from?

[FM-Sorai]

A lore slip? That's be a first... Maybe :P

What are your thoughts? You're just dropping votes everywhere without explaining them.

The government is Ashikaga (Town).

You noticed it too? Finally someone who understood the slip!

I did explain my votes and am waiting for my next move now
I kinda have bad feelings from that Taheiji

Yet your vote was for a POLICY LYNCH. There's absolutely nothing to be sceptic about on Taheiji when you're talking about policy lynches. You just changed your reasons without saying why, and I'm not sure you're having a real one...

I'm just sceptic because of the people Who Talk Like This

[FM-Kazushige]

Post #193

He initiated pushes against neither of the people he voted on, and hasn't really provided feedback on anyone that wasn't already scum-read by someone else, and just all-around feels like opportunistic scum. In fact he didn't address anyone besides tokuhei and myself, both of which seem pretty easy targets at this point in time. And even there his interaction with tokuhei didn't really reveal anything worthwhile

Post #194

I also find this very scummy....it just removes more information. not just about u being online browsing, but also removes the potential for mafia to push at u for "being on but not posting". If you keep your post counts up then fine w/e but if you start vanishing into the background...im coming for you.

ok, all you are doing is saying "you are scumpainting" literally im about to find ALL of ur posts and post them in order. almost all of them are just going at people saying "you are scum painting" that in itself is discrediting and scumpainting. town need to let shit unfold and stop trying to block every action happening because it seems scummy.

Yes, im sure u will apply that to "well let me see what happens when I keep saying that", but at this point its not baiting anymore; its discrediting which, for an active poster (so far) isnt helping. explain in detail what 'scumpainting' they are doing AND EXPLAIN WHY IT IS ANTI TOWN and not pro town. because scum painting is great for finding alignments.

So far I put a possible Robun and Masa team in these votes here.

and this is my scumread on Robun. All they have been doing is saying people are scumpainting him. I asked him to point out where, or define any of that and he completely avoided that question. this is from post #157. Robun was post #158, #160, and continued to post without addressing it. I may actually be feeling more confident in a Robun lynch rather than Masa. But Robun is not scum hunting, Robun is just defending against "scumpainting" all game so far.

[FM-Sorai]

so no1 has infiltrated the government? wtf are we fighting then lol @fm-sorei

Nothing I suppose, no murders happened yet so I think we are just some people accusing others for treason for no reason.

[FM-Kazushige]

Nothing I suppose, no murders happened yet so I think we are just some people accusing others for treason for no reason.

mag was murdered.

[FM-Kazushige]

Magoroth was found dead last night. He was slashed in half with a katana, but not before his bodyguards caught and killed his assailant! His role was Ashikaga Heir. Kenny, the assassin, was caught whilst trying to escape from Kyoto Castle. He perished in a volley of arrow fire.

Graveyard
Magoroth (Heir) - Died N0. Slashed in half with a sword.
Kenny (Assassin) - Died N0. Perished in a volley of arrow fire.

@FM-Sorai

[FM-Kazushige]

We have corruption in our government, in our village, and it must be purged.

[FM-Robun]

Good afternoon ladies and germs.

[FM-Sorai]

We have corruption in our government, in our village, and it must be purged.

That means nothing to us, there happened just one murder and we killed the assassin anyway, we cant connect it to a gang because the assassin wouldnt die if it was one or two from our ranks

Gameplay-Wise we are gonna see the Deimyos very soon
Lore-Wise we are still safe but in panic due to the emperor dying

[FM-Kazushige]

That means nothing to us, there happened just one murder and we killed the assassin anyway, we cant connect it to a gang because the assassin wouldnt die if it was one or two from our ranks

Gameplay-Wise we are gonna see the Deimyos very soon
Lore-Wise we are still safe but in panic due to the emperor dying

Our guards would never let someone into the castle like this. He had inside help. Cyoto is a well guarded fortress, absolutely no1 was able to wander in and assassinate the emperor. Lore wise, i suspect an inside job.

[FM-Robun]

Ah so im on a scum team with Masa according to Kazu. I'm not sure what you are playing at with your highlighted blue text. I never said anyone was baiting... And i thonk i only asked someone the question if they were acumpainting, and if they knew the difference between painting and hunting... Are you by chance high? Or making things up?

[FM-Masaharu]

Post #193


Post #194







and this is my scumread on Robun. All they have been doing is saying people are scumpainting him. I asked him to point out where, or define any of that and he completely avoided that question. this is from post #157. Robun was post #158, #160, and continued to post without addressing it. I may actually be feeling more confident in a Robun lynch rather than Masa. But Robun is not scum hunting, Robun is just defending against "scumpainting" all game so far.

Okay yeah fair enough.

[FM-Masaharu]

Okay yeah fair enough.

Wait so you found me turning on invis mode scummy? Wat? I’m confused. Can you go into a bit more detail

[FM-Tokuhei]

so no1 has infiltrated the government? wtf are we fighting then lol @fm-sorei

You say it's corrupt though...

[FM-Masaharu]

This is my official statement that I won’t be on for EOD. You’ve been warned

[FM-Robun]

Where are you perhaps upset that I have my vote on you?

[FM-Tokuhei]

You noticed it too? Finally someone who understood the slip!

I did explain my votes and am waiting for my next move now
I kinda have bad feelings from that Taheiji



I'm just sceptic because of the people Who Talk Like This

No no I don't buy it. Stop your bullshit. He posted 3 times like that, then stopped. Yet you still want a policy lynch on him?????????????

[FM-Tokuhei]

Post #193


Post #194







and this is my scumread on Robun. All they have been doing is saying people are scumpainting him. I asked him to point out where, or define any of that and he completely avoided that question. this is from post #157. Robun was post #158, #160, and continued to post without addressing it. I may actually be feeling more confident in a Robun lynch rather than Masa. But Robun is not scum hunting, Robun is just defending against "scumpainting" all game so far.

The #194 was about Masa and not Robun. I agree with #194 though, but it does not apply to Robun.

I however agree that is weird, but I think he's town still. More gut than anything, idk.

[FM-Tokuhei]

Nothing I suppose, no murders happened yet so I think we are just some people accusing others for treason for no reason.

Lmao this is what's happening because no lore

[FM-Tokuhei]

Good afternoon ladies and germs.

Germs?? Wtf

What are your reads, and what do you think of Kazu's push on you? You may not only say it's scum painting btw :P

[FM-Kazushige]

You say it's corrupt though...

yes. If the government has been infiltrated that is corruption. Just like if a hard drive gets a bad sector, the entire drive is now corrupt.

[FM-Tokuhei]

Ah so im on a scum team with Masa according to Kazu. I'm not sure what you are playing at with your highlighted blue text. I never said anyone was baiting... And i thonk i only asked someone the question if they were acumpainting, and if they knew the difference between painting and hunting... Are you by chance high? Or making things up?

I gotta admit I don't get the pairing with you two...

[FM-Tokuhei]

yes. If the government has been infiltrated that is corruption. Just like if a hard drive gets a bad sector, the entire drive is now corrupt.

Oh okay lol

inb4 you're actually scum and u actually lore slipped and we are just saying its all good but okay xD