S-FM Sengoku Jidai

[FM-Shuzo]

Why do you suspect me to be the Blackmailer? Be aware that if you're going to say because of Kazu BMing conspiracy I'm completely ignoring your scum read on me. How am I supposed to show you that two players aren't my allies? I believe it is my objective for me to prove my innocence, not others'.

you and they have to prove it to me. the more you support each other the more you seem suspect.

[FM-Kazushige]

HM... To be honest Blackmailer is the most OP role in this setup and many more. The fact that many roles have charges but this one has unlimited uses or an immensely versatile ability is not very correct.

I believe he switched the BMer to 2 uses? I thought there was an announcement on that.


@Magoroth is BMer unlimited or does it have 2 uses?

[FM-Munenori]

nah he can give them multiple. I asked yesterday, multiple times as well and rephtased it with multiple examples.

hmmm not reading the whole thread??

nah fam i read the setup

Target one player at night, demanding they do something.
The demand can be anything as long as it is not restricted by time.
The player must meet the demand the following day.
A player that does not meet the demand will die at the end of the day.

pretty singular

[FM-Kazushige]

nah fam i read the setup

pretty singular

ya you are not reading the thread. rofl

[FM-Munenori]

HM... To be honest Blackmailer is the most OP role in this setup and many more. The fact that many roles have charges but this one has unlimited uses or an immensely versatile ability is not very correct.

ya i pointed out how OP the unlimited bm was.

I believe he switched the BMer to 2 uses? I thought there was an announcement on that.

oh ok nice scum slip

[FM-Munenori]

ya you are not reading the thread. rofl

hmmmm yeah actually i'm pretty sure i didn't read the last two pages before the flip lul
everything else from today i've read :o)

[FM-Shuzo]

I believe he switched the BMer to 2 uses? I thought there was an announcement on that.


@Magoroth is BMer unlimited or does it have 2 uses?

Samurai
Samurai
Samurai
Samurai
Samurai
Samurai
Hidden Samurai (Killing)
Hidden Samurai (TPR)
Hidden Samurai (TPR)

Daimyo (Godfather)
Hidden Oda Killing
Hidden Oda Support

Hidden Any

Role Cards
Spoiler : Town Roles :

Spoiler : Samurai (Citizen/Vanilla Townie) :
You are a landed retainer of the Shogun's Court, firely supporting the Ashikaga clan.
You have no special abilities.


Spoiler : Captain (Jailor) :
You are a high ranking officer in the Shogun's Personal Guard, tasked with security from internal threats.

You can jail a player during the day, opening an anonymous night chat with them that lasts for a single night.

You can optionally execute your jailed captive. You have only one execution.


Spoiler : Geisha (Escort/Roleblocker) :
You are an entertainer at the Shogun's court, using your charm to discreetly eliminate threats to the his rule.

You may roleblock someone at night. Your may use your ability twice per game.


Spoiler : Herald (Crier) :
You are a loud-mouthed servant of the Emperor, relaying the news to the court.

You may post an anonymous message to be displayed during the ensuing day. You may not reveal your identity in the post.


Spoiler : Iko-Ikki Monk (Vigilante) :
You are a Buddhist monk, trained in the martial arts and in archery, skillfully eliminating any threats to the Shogun's rule.

You may kill a player at night. You can only kill once per game.


Spoiler : Auditor (Coroner) :


You may recover a dead player's last will at night, in addition to learning their alignment and role.




Spoiler : Mafia Roles :

Spoiler : Daimyo (Godfather) :
You are the leader of the Oda clan, secretly plotting to seize power and become Shogun.

You have no special abilities.

Spoiler : Assassin (One-shot Mafioso/Mafia Vigilante -OR- Disguiser) :
You are a stealthy mercenary, employed by the Oda clan to silence political enemies.

You may kill a player at night once per game.

If the setup is anonymous, upon killing your target you will swap your role, last will and identity (account) with them.


Spoiler : Master of Ceremonies (Incense Master/Janitor) :
You are an Oda monk, supervising rituals and palace ceremonies.

You may clear a player's role at night, preventing their role from being revealed in the event of their death. This effect lasts for one day and one night. You may only use your ability once.


Spoiler : Warden (Kidnapper/Mafia Jailor) :
You are a corrupt retainer of the Oda clan, using your contacts and influence to secretly detain targets of interest.

You can jail a player during the day, opening an anonymous night chat with them that lasts for a single night.

You can optionally execute your jailed captive. You have only one execution.


Spoiler : Oda Kuge (Blackmailer) :
You are a local nobleman, secretly supporting the Oda clan's struggle for power.

Target one player at night, demanding they do something.
The demand can be anything as long as it is not restricted by time.
The player must meet the demand the following day.
A player that does not meet the demand will die at the end of the day.


Spoiler : Oda Geisha (Consort/Mafia Roleblocker) :
You are an entertainer at the Shogun's court, secretly using your charm to overthrow the Ashikaga.

You may role block someone at night. You may use your ability twice per game.


Spoiler : Ventriloquist :


You may assume control of a player's account during the night, gaining the ability to talk from their account during the following day.

You may do this twice.





Spoiler : Neutral Roles :


Spoiler : Blacksmith :
You are a renowned craftsman, forging swords for profit.

You may craft a one-use Sword.


Spoiler : Ronin (Student/Lover) :
You are a landless, masterless samurai willing to pledge your allegiance to anyone.

You may pick a target on Night 0. You can optionally use your day ability to protect your master from being lynched. One charge.

You and your master share an anonymous night chat.

Your master must survive to the end. You do not need to survive to the end.

If your Master dies, you become a Dishonored Ronin.


Spoiler : Dishonored Ronin (Jester/Vengeful/Ghost) :


*CANNOT SPAWN AT GAME START*

You win if you are lynched during the day.



Spoiler : Tormentor :


You are a demented individual, seeking to torment his chosen victim for all eternity.

Goal: Receive a random person as a target. You and your target must be the last remaining living players in the game. The Tormentor is considered a side of his own, thus the game will not end until he wins or is killed.

Ability: You can torment your target in two ways, one is by sending anonymous one-way messages to your victim during the day (by PMing the FM master). The other is you can decide to jail him. While in jail your target is roleblocked and protected from death, you can chat with your victim while he is in your holding cell.

Events: If your target dies at night your new target will be the first one who killed him, you will of course know who it is. If your target is lynched during the day your new target will be randomly selected out of the voters or be the hammer vote (depending on setup), but you won't be able to jail the new target that night even if you planned to jail your former victim. If you ever vote to lynch your victim and he is actually lynched you will suicide the following night.

Special: The Tormentor always wins alone.


Spoiler : Sleuth :


You are a corrupt palace guard, secretly gathering information for sinister motives.
You can read a player's last will and optionally modify it. You may do this twice.





Potential Feedback

Spoiler : Feedback :

Spoiler : Roleblock/Attempted Roleblock :

An attractive entertainer occupied your night. You were roleblocked!


Spoiler : Jailed/Kidnapped :

You were inspecting your cherry garden when you heard a curious noise in your quarters. Suspicious, you draw out your sword and slowly approach your quarters... A quick rush of air and alas a hooded, masked man has overpowered you and knocked you out from behind! You frantically try to resist, but the man manages to stab you with a pin! As the stars in the sky slowly blur away, the gravity of the situation dawns on you: you have been kidnapped!

You awaken, alone, in a dark room, your hands unbound. A parchment lies on the table in front, reading:"[Jailor's Jail Message Appears Here]".

Your captor finally enters the room and starts interrogating you.

NIGHT CHAT WITH YOUR CAPTOR OPENED.
Link: [LINK.GOES.HERE]


Spoiler : Auditor's Feedback :

You investigated the late [TARGETNAME]'s finances last night, uncovering their occupation: [TARGETROLE], as well as their testament: [TARGETWILL].



Spoiler : Sleuth's Feedback :

You stealthily made your way to [TARGETNAME]'s quarters last night, finding and stealing their last will and testament. Upon returning home, you...



a) decide to keep the last will as is and return it to your target's home
b) decide to forge the documents

Their last will was:

[TARGET.LAST.WILL.QUOTE.GOES.HERE]



Spoiler : Private Message from the Tormentor :

While walking in the streets of Kyoto, you pass by a shadowy but well-mannered samurai, dressed in ceremonial robes. He slips, and, you, in good faith, offer to help him up. The stranger is thankful, but he immediately disappears after you turn around. Bewildered by his sudden disappearance, you reach for your sword, when you notice a small piece of parchment in your sleeve. It reads:

[TORMENTOR.MESSAGE.GOES.HERE.]



Spoiler : Ronin Pledges Allegiance To You :

Late at night, a landless retainer demands an audience with you. 'This man says he will pledge himself to you, body, sword and soul, if only you would teach him your ways', one of your guards says. You hastily let the man in. Bowing before you with great respect, he refuses to reveal his identity, for he says he has many enemies at court and that these are dangerous times. 'Dangerous times indeed', you remark as you ponder whether you should accept his loyalty or not. After much debate, the samurai convinces you to take him in and you decide to grant him a parcel of land from your personal estate, in exchange for his service.

A RONIN CHOSEN YOU AS THEIR MASTER.

Link to anon chat: [LINK.GOES.HERE]


Spoiler : Your Master was lynched! :

You did not believe it at first. It seemed that time itself was shutting down. Your master, of all people, accused of plotting to overthrow the Shogun himself? It was a baseless accusation, one without honour. And yet, he was found guilty of treason and executed. One thing is clear in your mind. You are forever dishonored by having followed this man. Bushido code demands your honorable death by suicide. But perhaps it would be a stronger message indeed if you took someone else with you first? Your Master would've wanted it so. His killers must be brought to justice.

YOU HAVE BECOME A DISHONORED RONIN (JESTER).

Spoiler : Role Card :


*CANNOT SPAWN AT GAME START*

You win if you are lynched during the day.






Spoiler : Your Master was killed at night! :

You hurriedly race towards your Master's quarters, knowing full well you have little time to waste. The walls appear to have been hacked with an axe! And the guards are dead. Heart pumping and filled with a mixture of fear and disgust, you rush to your Master's bedroom, only to find him already dead and the killer escaped. You vow vengeance on those who have killed your master and dishonored you! 'There is no way out of this, save to commit sepuku! But I may take some of those spineless, honourless scoundrels with me, first,' you think to yourself.
YOU HAVE BECOME A DISHONORED RONIN (JESTER).

Spoiler : Role Card :


*CANNOT SPAWN AT GAME START*

You win if you are lynched during the day.







Order of Operations

0.1 Targets are Jailed or Kidnapped.
0.2 Jailor/Kidnapper/Tormentor Night Chat Open
0.3 Targets are Executed
0.4 Mafia Night Chat
1. Roleblockers (Consort>Escort)
2. Kills (Vigilante>Goon/Disguiser>Blacksmith Sword>Jailor>Kidnapper)
3. Blackmailer
4. Blacksmith gives out Sword
5. Survivor Vest
6. Sleuth
7. Janitor
8. Crier sends message (can be stopped by blackmailer)
9. Auditor

Mechanics
Days last 36 hours, nights last 12.
Majority Lynch - player with the most votes by EoD will be lynched. Condorcet voting.
Ties are resolved by RNG.
Lynch is not mandatory.
Last wills allowed.
Suicide not allowed.

entire game setup. getting back to it..

[FM-Tsuneyo]

you and they have to prove it to me. the more you support each other the more you seem suspect.

I have not ever talked to Munemori and I've said that Tshe claims has many holes. What are you trying to do here?

[FM-Shuzo]

as you can see the blackmailer has no limit

[FM-Kazushige]

ya i pointed out how OP the unlimited bm was.

oh ok nice scum slip

YES HE CAN BE TOLD TO DO SOMETHING. SOMETHING POSTING 1 POST WITH A VOTE IN IT ALL DAY AND NOTHING ELSE. HE DID THAT. HOW IS HE GOING TO DIE? rofl

@Magoroth can the blackmailer give multiple things for the person to do? Because saying only 1 message all day is 1 thing, then saying they ahve to get the target lynched is a separate.

Is it possible for the BMer to say "You have to get your target lynched only using these words" ? or does that count as 2 actions.

lol

[FM-Tsuneyo]

you guys and your blackmailed bs im out of here for now let me calm my nerves cuz URGH im angery rn

MY?? I'm saying that to anyone who's blackmailed out there. I obviously do not support their shitty theories.

[FM-Kazushige]

hmmmm yeah actually i'm pretty sure i didn't read the last two pages before the flip lul
everything else from today i've read :o)

the quotes above are from the first few pages of D2.

[FM-Kazushige]

I have not ever talked to Munemori and I've said that Tshe claims has many holes. What are you trying to do here?

check where your votes at

[FM-Tsuneyo]

as you can see the blackmailer has no limit

Congratulations copying the whole setup. Now please come here because I'm going to slap your ass to death

[FM-Kazushige]

I have not ever talked to Munemori and I've said that Tshe claims has many holes. What are you trying to do here?

his claim has many holes but ur running with it. fail.

[FM-Shuzo]

MY?? I'm saying that to anyone who's blackmailed out there. I obviously do not support their shitty theories.

causing misdirection with both posts @FM-Tsuneyo @ His Quote

[FM-Tsuneyo]

check where your votes at

Despite his claim being very lacking, I consider there to be some things that make me vote you. Your continuous screaming of BMing nonense that I've already proven wrong but you decide to ignore makes me want to vote you even more.

[FM-Kazushige]

Despite his claim being very lacking, I consider there to be some things that make me vote you. Your continuous screaming of BMing nonense that I've already proven wrong but you decide to ignore makes me want to vote you even more.

he is BMed. Just because it didnt go as far as you revealing yourself to him doesnt make the fact of him being BMed false. lol

I am an uncounter claimed Herald. You say his CC is full of holes and you don't believe it. so in your mind I should be confirmed town rn.

[FM-Munenori]

The demand can be anything as long as it's not restricted by time. And it cannot disable a player's ability to vote, but it can force them to only vote a specific person.

Also, second question. Debatable. I need a more specific case because in some cases the demand may be nearly impossible to meet.

he didn't even answer the question........

[FM-Tsuneyo]

causing misdirection with both posts @FM-Tsuneyo @ His Quote

Shuzo, dear, you suck shit. You keep saying random words that sound fancy but fail to indicate why they are true. I can call you a dwarf, but if I do not explain why my claim of you being a dwarf will be completely shut

[FM-Kazushige]

he didn't even answer the question........

It canc be ANYTHING. keep reading as well I went into specific exampels somewhere, unless that was in PM.

[FM-Shuzo]

Shuzo, dear, you suck shit. You keep saying random words that sound fancy but fail to indicate why they are true. I can call you a dwarf, but if I do not explain why my claim of you being a dwarf will be completely shut

2 hours left

[FM-Tsuneyo]

*yawn*

Bye, will return tomorrow.

[FM-Munenori]

It canc be ANYTHING. keep reading as well I went into specific exampels somewhere, unless that was in PM.

omg...i am not gonna search thru the thread for that lol we can just agree to disagree, i really doubt he is BMed, especially when 10 other players haven't even fucken checked in yet and Mag can't modkill like he said he would

[FM-Kazushige]

omg...i am not gonna search thru the thread for that lol we can just agree to disagree, i really doubt he is BMed, especially when 10 other players haven't even fucken checked in yet and Mag can't modkill like he said he would

yes, he is blackmailed.

Tsuyen said Teihji probably got RBed so that is why his post didnt post. Teihiji agreed saying he most likely got RBed.

well, sorry to say roleblockers leave feedback in this:

Spoiler : Roleblock/Attempted Roleblock :

An attractive entertainer occupied your night. You were roleblocked!

So, he would know for a fact if he was RBed or not. They had a discussion on WHY is post probably didnt show up. they came to that conclusion.

I didn't want to point it out yet, but w/e lol so lets now accept that teihjiji is RBed and move forward from here.

[FM-Kazushige]

yes, he is blackmailed.

Tsuyen said Teihji probably got RBed so that is why his post didnt post. Teihiji agreed saying he most likely got RBed.

well, sorry to say roleblockers leave feedback in this:



So, he would know for a fact if he was RBed or not. They had a discussion on WHY is post probably didnt show up. they came to that conclusion.

I didn't want to point it out yet, but w/e lol so lets now accept that teihjiji is RBed and move forward from here.

err accept now that teihiji is BMed, and move froward from here on what to do.

[FM-Shuzo]

The demand can be anything as long as it's not restricted by time. And it cannot disable a player's ability to vote, but it can force them to only vote a specific person.

Also, second question. Debatable. I need a more specific case because in some cases the demand may be nearly impossible to meet.

@Megoroth does the blackmailers ability work over multiple days? for instance megoroth was mbd n1 and continues to day three and so on.

[FM-Shuzo]

@Magoroth ^^

[FM-Shuzo]

Despite his claim being very lacking, I consider there to be some things that make me vote you. Your continuous screaming of BMing nonense that I've already proven wrong but you decide to ignore makes me want to vote you even more.

why is it you call everything nonsense. or conspiracy with you?

[FM-Shuzo]

*yawn*

Bye, will return tomorrow.

1 Hour Left......

[FM-Toshikazu]

Toshikazu is here

[FM-Toshikazu]

88 pages of hot garbage. That was an agonizing read. You guys sure take a lot of posts to say very little.

[FM-Kazushige]

88 pages of hot garbage. That was an agonizing read. You guys sure take a lot of posts to say very little.

you read the entire thread? ok, conclusions? reads lists?

[FM-Kazushige]

88 pages of hot garbage. That was an agonizing read. You guys sure take a lot of posts to say very little.

@Magoroth modkill this please.....

0 contribution from this slot.

[FM-Shuzo]

-vote FM-Tsuneyo

i gave you more then acquitted time

[Ganelon]

@Megoroth does the blackmailers ability work over multiple days? for instance megoroth was mbd n1 and continues to day three and so on.

No.

[Ganelon]

I believe he switched the BMer to 2 uses? I thought there was an announcement on that.


@Magoroth is BMer unlimited or does it have 2 uses?

Unlimited. It may however only force a target to push a Lynch twice a game.

[FM-Takeru]

Well shit. About Taheiji :

-He is the blackmailer and he is doing this on purpose
-He is really blackmailed

After reading twice everything, I came the the conclusion that Taheiji gave us a lot of informations and is actively trying to help town despise his blackmailed.
I will tend to think he is a town blackmailed.

lol ok

-vote FM-Kazushige

Oh, we killing kazu now?

-vote FM-Kazushige

Wtf was that two votes. So someone come with a counterclaim without explaining and without even thinking about the BMER and you vote with him?

u were REALLY adamant about knowing that jailor can jail...seems like a good alibi if u ask me <3

I have my doubt about Mune since D1, D2 during the Kazu/Tokuhei drama, he was just waching the world burn and almost didn't participate (but was active according to a few posts he made)
And right now, he is still doing shit. Look at that post, it's an useless post, just triing to put a discredit on Kazu without doing anything.

[FM-Takeru]

Robun : He can't be blackmailer (jailed N1), plus all the interactions today with Kazu look very townish, plus he didn't vote Tokuhei and since Tokuhei flipped town ==> Town read
Kazu : crier, scumhunt, good interactions with Tokuhei today and didn't vote Tokuhei yesterday) ==> Town read
Shuzo : According to the interactions today and things that I can't say ==> Town read
Taheiji: I will tend to believe his blackmailed claim

The afks :
Toshikazu
Etsuya

Tsuneyo : I didn't like some things about him:
-eager to lynch an afk D1,
-didn't participate to the debate D2 (and his 'lol'...),
-at the end of D2, he said he almost made a mistake with his vote on Sorai and then voted Tokuhei

scums but... he is really against Kazu today which look weird for a scum.

Naonobu : he claimed a mafia roles twice, I think he is a neutral evil. He probably doesn't like being neutral and is totally not in the game. He even followed Munemori without thinking about it and voted Kazu (1533).
It's his only action D3... If i had to guess, he is sleuth.Or he is ronin and chosed munemori. Voted Tokuhei D2
Munenori : too cautious, doesn't really participate and wtf was that vote on Kazu? Voted Tokuhei D2
Sorai : Didn't show up D3. But still look scummy af. Voted Tokuhei D2

I am not sure Tsuneyo should be today's lynch but I will stay with the town block.

-vote FM-Tsuneyo

[FM-Takeru]

ill vote sorai later, but I feel Mafia went after tried pretty damn hard to assure the lynch was toku over sorai.

and @FM-Tokuhei ....you damn meme. I am counter claiming you if you are ever confirmed town lol

I think I am the only one who defended Sorai D2, and not because I thought he is town but because I thought A tokuhei lynch would be better.

[FM-Etsuya]

Could you post all your reads taheiji. Who would you like us to lynch tomorrow after kazu is dead?

[FM-Takeru]

By the way, I think the jailor should stay on Kazu, he is the only confirmed town.

[FM-Takeru]

Could you post all your reads taheiji. Who would you like us to lynch tomorrow after kazu is dead?

He already answered to that question

[FM-Takeru]

I just had another thought.
If yesterday, the tie was between two towns (Tokuhei/Sorai), the scums would had no problem changing their vote between both of them, or being more 'confused'. Since the both lynch was good for them
but when we look at it, most of the people stayed on their vote the whole last 10 hours.
Tsuneyo was afk and changed his vote around EOD.
I only decided at the end of EOD, but as I said, I wanted to let time for Kazu because he was afk and didn't catch up.

Which mean, I think Sorai is scum xD

[FM-Munenori]

Robun : He can't be blackmailer (jailed N1), plus all the interactions today with Kazu look very townish, plus he didn't vote Tokuhei and since Tokuhei flipped town ==> Town read
Kazu : crier, scumhunt, good interactions with Tokuhei today and didn't vote Tokuhei yesterday) ==> Town read
Shuzo : According to the interactions today and things that I can't say ==> Town read
Taheiji: I will tend to believe his blackmailed claim

The afks :
Toshikazu
Etsuya

Tsuneyo : I didn't like some things about him:
-eager to lynch an afk D1,
-didn't participate to the debate D2 (and his 'lol'...),
-at the end of D2, he said he almost made a mistake with his vote on Sorai and then voted Tokuhei

scums but... he is really against Kazu today which look weird for a scum.

Naonobu : he claimed a mafia roles twice, I think he is a neutral evil. He probably doesn't like being neutral and is totally not in the game. He even followed Munemori without thinking about it and voted Kazu (1533).
It's his only action D3... If i had to guess, he is sleuth.Or he is ronin and chosed munemori. Voted Tokuhei D2
Munenori : too cautious, doesn't really participate and wtf was that vote on Kazu? Voted Tokuhei D2
Sorai : Didn't show up D3. But still look scummy af. Voted Tokuhei D2

I am not sure Tsuneyo should be today's lynch but I will stay with the town block.

-vote FM-Tsuneyo

LMFAO are you serious? You are the useless one that doesnt even read. You're scumreading those that voted toku when you HAMMERED? GET THE FUCK OUT

-vote FM-takeru

[FM-Munenori]

@Magoroth modkill this please.....

0 contribution from this slot.

@Magoroth seriously.....

[FM-Takeru]

LMFAO are you serious? You are the useless one that doesnt even read. You're scumreading those that voted toku when you HAMMERED? GET THE FUCK OUT

-vote FM-takeru

Even if I hammered (which I said a few times that I will), that doesn't mean I have to ignore who voted him.

[FM-Takeru]

Even if I hammered (which I said a few times that I will), that doesn't mean I have to ignore who voted him.

That would be super counter-productive if I would ignore that kind of facts.

[FM-Tsuneyo]

yes, he is blackmailed.

Tsuyen said Teihji probably got RBed so that is why his post didnt post. Teihiji agreed saying he most likely got RBed.

well, sorry to say roleblockers leave feedback in this:



So, he would know for a fact if he was RBed or not. They had a discussion on WHY is post probably didnt show up. they came to that conclusion.

I didn't want to point it out yet, but w/e lol so lets now accept that teihjiji is RBed and move forward from here.

If "Tsuyen" is me then you're a fucking liar. Check my posts, I never mentioned that he got probably RBed. In fact, he was the only one who said that he must have been RBed. If you're Town you should be more careful about your scum-reading because it's complete shit.

[FM-Tsuneyo]

-vote FM-Tsuneyo

i gave you more then acquitted time

I was sleeping, but okey. Also. I don't care about you. I've already explained why I'm not BMed, and don't know how am I supposed to prove my innocence if it's not by talking. Don't expect me to magically change your mind. Specially when you have me as locked scum lol. You just want to sound eloquent with that "I give you two hours". Do not pretend anything else.

Your supposed "town block" is what's going to drive us to our demise. So yeah, great "Town block".