S-FM Sengoku Jidai

[FM-Kazushige]

Or Maybe I Will Shitpost Who Knows Also We Should Lynch For Information Yes But I Say Probably Not To Lynch Today, Maybe Lynch Tokuhei Whatever If No Better Train Comes Along But We Should Confirm Which Mafia Killing Role They Have If We Can BTW I’m Green

haha +scumpoints "lets just lynch the biggest train if no better lynch"

This sounds like scum lining up a "safety lynch" for D1.

[FM-Taheiji]

Since Mahasaru or w/e is his name is gone, you just became the best place to put a vote! Congratulations!

-vote FM-Taheiji

Thank you! I receive your vote with pride.

[FM-Robun]

Since Mahasaru or w/e is his name is gone, you just became the best place to put a vote! Congratulations!

-vote FM-Taheiji

If your reason is because of his typing i will lynch you now REEEEEEEEEEE

[FM-Taheiji]

haha +scumpoints "lets just lynch the biggest train if no better lynch"

This sounds like scum lining up a "safety lynch" for D1.

forgot the most important part in that line, I meant to say lynch kaku *tomorrow* if nothing better comes along, was too focused on making my words capitalized that I didn't bother checking it. take this as you will

[FM-Taheiji]

If your reason is because of his typing i will lynch you now REEEEEEEEEEE

to be fair i'd lynch someone typing like that any day, ten times out of ten, with no regrets

[FM-Taheiji]

I feel like Tokuhei is the type of person to where he'll start off pretty active but honestly waiting just a bit longer will reveal whether he is town or not, would personally be against a D1 lynch but a D2 lynch on him might be alright

[FM-Kazushige]

LOL are you trying to sarcasticly scumpaint a confirmed townie =P

ok, all you are doing is saying "you are scumpainting" literally im about to find ALL of ur posts and post them in order. almost all of them are just going at people saying "you are scum painting" that in itself is discrediting and scumpainting. town need to let shit unfold and stop trying to block every action happening because it seems scummy.

Yes, im sure u will apply that to "well let me see what happens when I keep saying that", but at this point its not baiting anymore; its discrediting which, for an active poster (so far) isnt helping. explain in detail what 'scumpainting' they are doing AND EXPLAIN WHY IT IS ANTI TOWN and not pro town. because scum painting is great for finding alignments.

So far I put a possible Robun and Masa team in these votes here.

[FM-Robun]

to be fair i'd lynch someone typing like that any day, ten times out of ten, with no regrets

So if a confirmed townie Is Typing Like This you'd just go ahead and lynch them, thats my interpretation ;)

[FM-Taheiji]

So if a confirmed townie Is Typing Like This you'd just go ahead and lynch them, thats my interpretation ;)

why you gotta play me like this fam brosquad all im saying is that Typing Like This Is Damned Annoying Lol

[FM-Robun]

why you gotta play me like this fam brosquad all im saying is that Typing Like This Is Damned Annoying Lol

Lol im just joshin yah bud

[FM-Tokuhei]

If your reason is because of his typing i will lynch you now REEEEEEEEEEE

No it is not lol... well, maybe a bit, but the real reason is that he's just willing to go with the train that seems to have traction fast, without even having read (He admitted that he was going to read). That's scummy.

[FM-Taheiji]

late game is when scums use inactives for easy lynches. early game town should clear them out.




I personally make better decisions when there is more information provided. sub 30 posts to me in a day is just low info. You will not get a confident read on them unless they are being defended by another. Then their scumread is coming mainly from alignment due to another poster.

More info = better judgement and confidence behind decisions.

Kazushige is a pretty level-headed guy I feel from this post and I liked this quote a lot, but then he turned right around and voted toshikazu soooo I don't know how I feel about this guy anymore

[FM-Taheiji]

No it is not lol... well, maybe a bit, but the real reason is that he's just willing to go with the train that seems to have traction fast, without even having read (He admitted that he was going to read). That's scummy.

again, take it as you will there's a reason I didn't place my vote on you, and I am again against a D1 lynch (on anyone, really) but am definitely for a D2 lynch

[FM-Tokuhei]

ok, all you are doing is saying "you are scumpainting" literally im about to find ALL of ur posts and post them in order. almost all of them are just going at people saying "you are scum painting" that in itself is discrediting and scumpainting. town need to let shit unfold and stop trying to block every action happening because it seems scummy.

Yes, im sure u will apply that to "well let me see what happens when I keep saying that", but at this point its not baiting anymore; its discrediting which, for an active poster (so far) isnt helping. explain in detail what 'scumpainting' they are doing AND EXPLAIN WHY IT IS ANTI TOWN and not pro town. because scum painting is great for finding alignments.

So far I put a possible Robun and Masa team in these votes here.

The problem is, I townread you both (you and robun)............ also scum painting is USUALLY coming from scums, and it was more from a joke tone than anything imo? Not sure of getting where you come from with that scum team.

[FM-Taheiji]

will probably provide a reads list 24 hours from now (7 hours to EoD and once more people have posted), unless ive got some really pressing matters to attend to. If I forget, be sure to prod the shit out of me until I give it to you

[FM-Tokuhei]

Taheiji just swapped personas... Wtf lol that's weird (And I'm not just talking About This Way Of Typing)

[FM-Taheiji]

I propose that we all get different avatars, so we can know who is who efficiently. There's an avatar bank in the "Avatar" section, in Settings.

-vote FM-Munenori

I don't see what's suspicious for anyone here atm.

Nope, I'm asking Sorai about the weird suspicion he has.

I like this. Kazushige, I pledge allegiance to you for today. You will be my D1 town read!

Also note that Jesters can't spawn at start of game, meaning that we can lynch without fear today.

-vote FM-Masaharu

LURKER INBOUND! ARCHERS, GET READY!!!

Aaaand he's gone. @FM-Masaharu I am keeping my vote here, I want more than "hi".

So. The Blackmailer and the Warden are the biggest threat, apparently. The Daimyo is a goon, basically. @Magoroth Do the Oda have a factional kill?

I believe that given the sure amount of 2 mafia power roles, we have a big incentive to lynch the inactive/cautious people. MEANING THAT IF YOU DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE GAME, YOU SHALL BE SMITTEN BY OUR KATANAS.

While we're at the questions stage...

Can the Tormentor reveal his identity in the "one way messages"?

What is the tie-breaking order? (who wins over who)

The Herald's post is displayed at start of day, right?

Can the Iko-Ikki kill on Night One? Can the Assassin kill on Night One? Does the Assassin kill allow for two kills in one night, if the Oda have a factional kill?

In the event Oda have a factional kill, does a member of the Oda clan have to forego his night action in order to carry the factional kill?

I believe there is a soft claim in this... I'm just not sure it's pro-town to discuss it.

Yet they are necessary to make a plan to vanquish the Oda clan, sir.

Scums out themselves in activity. Meaning:

You are wrong. But a lot of people are "not very successful", as you say. I'm willing to bet that AT LEAST one of the three scums is not very successful. And this is without the neutral, who may or may not be evil.

This is my reasoning. There's also the fact that power roles tend to be more cautious.


I honestly give him town points for this because it was a bad idea of mine to say that... Why is everyone town here

@Rachyl You... are not part of this game, sorry. The account info would've been PM'd to you. You are to stop posting immediatly to avoid an infraction.

No. Saying "hi" then vanishing is called lurking. So this will be a two-way suspicion.

-vote FM-MASAHARU

-vote FM-MASAHARU

-vote FM-MASAHARU

-vote FM-MASAHARU

-vote FM-MASAHARU

-vote FM-MASAHARU

-vote FM-MASAHARU

Wish granted!

He just said that me voting him looked like bussing. Towns don't get bussed, do they?

You don't seem to comprehend what's the matter of my vote either...

I..... I somehow believe that this is a town tell, because which scum would say that lol

You also said that it looked like bussing. And even here, you're saying I look scummy but do not, as I would expect a town to do, say that you ARE town. And you are defensive, you say you care about how you look (I'd prefer not have other people scumread me because of your shitty play) and discredit me (Your shitty play). This is going against the bushido.

My point is that if he says that he's looking bussed, he's scum slipping. And his reaction is just making it worse lol.

Huehuehue I'm at L-3! Who's willing to bet that there is AT LEAST one scum on my train? I am! We're not even 3 hours in and I get jumped on.

People like you shouldn't have been protected by the Kami Kaze, for you belong to the Others... <3

No. I am saying that the expected reaction of a town would be to say they are town. But no, you still say it looks like bussing, KEEP saying it...

Also this vote was more of a RVS vote lol you know, the "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks"? This shit is stickier than honey...

Err when someone gets asked to contribute with a RVS vote and he just goes mad and scum slips.... , do you see meep?

Also, I claim Samurai. Don't mass claim, I'm just laying some wifom on the ground

What's coal O.O remember this is the shogunate era...

To whoever said that the answers were pretty obvious....

Spoiler : HAH :

This means that we CAN play without lynching D1, even if it is still a good strategy imo.

Yes, they have a confirmed killing role, but every killing role can only kill once.

Exactly lmao EZ GAME

Plus we got a killing role too so we're more than good lol

Spoiler : really? :

It will be done, my lord.

Town killer, D O N O T K I L L N 1 !!!!

@FM-Munenori , you're here since the start of game but nearly didn't post. What do you have to say about the myself-masaharu argument, and what is your read on us and Kazushige, and Robun?

My list of reads coming soon, just need more people to step in.

Yeah 100% confirmed!

Hm I see what you mean, but think: do you think a scum would ask if they got a factional kill to host in the thread....?

Since Mahasaru or w/e is his name is gone, you just became the best place to put a vote! Congratulations!

-vote FM-Taheiji

No it is not lol... well, maybe a bit, but the real reason is that he's just willing to go with the train that seems to have traction fast, without even having read (He admitted that he was going to read). That's scummy.

The problem is, I townread you both (you and robun)............ also scum painting is USUALLY coming from scums, and it was more from a joke tone than anything imo? Not sure of getting where you come from with that scum team.

Taheiji just swapped personas... Wtf lol that's weird (And I'm not just talking About This Way Of Typing)

haha I gave up on doing it it was too hard

[FM-Taheiji]

oh fuc I forgot I was multiquoting
well i was gonna analyze this so lets start now

[FM-Tokuhei]

Hello @FM-Shuzo ! Your thoughts? I should be able to make my list after this.

[FM-Masaharu]

Upon consideration and reflection I have peered into the depths of this world and pulled out the verdict that Tokuhei is just eager, and highly misguided. While I am aware of the highly scummy connotation with moving my vote off of him right now, I agree that Taheiji is more deserving of the pressure at the moment.

I have also decided that I'm going to turn on invisible mode so in the entirely likely scenario where I am wrong and I get assaulted in a old era kitchen sink style offensive from this slot, I have some leverage.

-vote FM-Taheiji

[FM-Tokuhei]

Upon consideration and reflection I have peered into the depths of this world and pulled out the verdict that Tokuhei is just eager, and highly misguided. While I am aware of the highly scummy connotation with moving my vote off of him right now, I agree that Taheiji is more deserving of the pressure at the moment.

I have also decided that I'm going to turn on invisible mode so in the entirely likely scenario where I am wrong and I get assaulted in a old era kitchen sink style offensive from this slot, I have some leverage.

-vote FM-Taheiji

I did not attack you for activity. I asked you to remain active, and put an RVS vote on you. As I said, it's about throwing shit on the wall and seeing what sticks. This shit sticked really, really hard. I still scum read you, for the reasons I've previously stated. Don't go put in my mouth words that it never pronounced.

That being said, Taheiji is so weird that I prefer having my vote there lol.

[FM-Taheiji]

Tokuhei: at the moment I have him as a town lean. However, I find that (if he's who I think he is), more often than not I always end up townreading him at the start. He's been active in prodding others and I honestly like that he turned towards me, rather than another player that's posted so far, having me pegged as possible scum. Moving on to what he's done in game so far: he's asked a bunch of questions to magaroth (NAI, really, especially where he said that scum wouldn't ask if they had a factional kill). Then he's interacted with the other players: He prodded Msaharu, Sorai, and Munenori (who to him are lurkers, posts 85/23/139 respectively). What I don't like so far however is post 96, where he addresses Naonobu like "ok here have some free town points". I feel like... this player (again this is just based on me guessing who he is, and I could of course always be wrong) usually doesn't hand out town reads that easily, and for him to do it to not only Kazushige/Robun (165) which I can kind of understand, but also Naonobu? I didn't really get that one. To me it feels like Naonobu is a town that doesn't participate much and Toku is trying to establish himself as town to naonobu by frequently addressing the latter despite their lack of posts, and although its not indicative of anything quite yet, it should also be mentioned that naonobu popped in/out a couple times and toku never did anything about it, but he went hard on masa/sora/mune's cases

[FM-Tokuhei]

A friendly reminder that the anon accounts are here to prevent you from knowing who people are. Respect this.

[FM-Taheiji]

A friendly reminder that the anon accounts are here to prevent you from knowing who people are. Respect this.

oh shoot sorry that's my bad. I didn't know exactly how far that extended

[FM-Masaharu]

oh shoot sorry that's my bad. I didn't know exactly how far that extended

r a c h y l

[FM-Tokuhei]

@FM-Nahoebu, I would appreciate your take on the game, instead of weird claims. The town points you have gained are highly radioactive, and have a very short half-life.

[FM-Tokuhei]

@FM-Nahoebu, I would appreciate your take on the game, instead of weird claims. The town points you have gained are highly radioactive, and have a very short half-life.

Whoever made those names, be cursed...

[Ganelon]

Whoever made those names, be cursed...

*pulls back sleeves*
You wot m8

[FM-Toshikazu]

General Naka no Ōe ignored the emperor's policy and moved to the former province. Many courtiers of the court including, Empress Hashihito, followed him. Kōtoku was left in the palace. In the next year he died because of illness. The illness that is a plague upon our city.

[FM-Kazushige]

Tokuhei: at the moment I have him as a town lean. However, I find that (if he's who I think he is), more often than not I always end up townreading him at the start. He's been active in prodding others and I honestly like that he turned towards me, rather than another player that's posted so far, having me pegged as possible scum. Moving on to what he's done in game so far: he's asked a bunch of questions to magaroth (NAI, really, especially where he said that scum wouldn't ask if they had a factional kill). Then he's interacted with the other players: He prodded Msaharu, Sorai, and Munenori (who to him are lurkers, posts 85/23/139 respectively). What I don't like so far however is post 96, where he addresses Naonobu like "ok here have some free town points". I feel like... this player (again this is just based on me guessing who he is, and I could of course always be wrong) usually doesn't hand out town reads that easily, and for him to do it to not only Kazushige/Robun (165) which I can kind of understand, but also Naonobu? I didn't really get that one. To me it feels like Naonobu is a town that doesn't participate much and Toku is trying to establish himself as town to naonobu by frequently addressing the latter despite their lack of posts, and although its not indicative of anything quite yet, it should also be mentioned that naonobu popped in/out a couple times and toku never did anything about it, but he went hard on masa/sora/mune's cases

@FM-Taheiji no com hunting. that is hinting at any players real identities ect. it defeats the purpose of the setup.

[FM-Taheiji]

I do not appreciate this very immediate scumpainting. Judging alignment based on slot activity one hour into the day is indicative of either an inexperienced town or an underdeveloped scum player.

I will be keeping my eye on you. And my vote, currently.

-vote FM-Tokuhei

Upon consideration and reflection I have peered into the depths of this world and pulled out the verdict that Tokuhei is just eager, and highly misguided. While I am aware of the highly scummy connotation with moving my vote off of him right now, I agree that Taheiji is more deserving of the pressure at the moment.

I have also decided that I'm going to turn on invisible mode so in the entirely likely scenario where I am wrong and I get assaulted in a old era kitchen sink style offensive from this slot, I have some leverage.

-vote FM-Taheiji

^^ this guys probably my top scum right now. He initiated pushes against neither of the people he voted on, and hasn't really provided feedback on anyone that wasn't already scum-read by someone else, and just all-around feels like opportunistic scum. In fact he didn't address anyone besides tokuhei and myself, both of which seem pretty easy targets at this point in time. And even there his interaction with tokuhei didn't really reveal anything worthwhile, and he's... awfully quick to switch his vote to me, to be honest, after having argued with tokuhei pretty much the whole time until this point; it feels like he's all too eager to direct the push onto me instead of toku. Might place a vote later, and as of this moment in time (may change) I think if there is a lynch today it ought to be masa. Am against a D1 lynch however, because the mafia is limited to basically only a single kill, and having more time means more information to work with to perform accurate lynches; on top of that we have a town killing role guaranteed to us. Also, we should ascertain which killing role the mafia has. Of course waiting a night won't be enough to tell which killing role it is, but I still think that there shouldn't be a D1 lynch, unless they're pretty much confirmed scum.

[FM-Taheiji]

@FM-Taheiji no com hunting. that is hinting at any players real identities ect. it defeats the purpose of the setup.

Yes, i'm sorry. I didn't know to what extent the rule applied. I apoligize, and shall henceforth go commit seppuku.

[FM-Taheiji]

I did not attack you for activity. I asked you to remain active, and put an RVS vote on you. As I said, it's about throwing shit on the wall and seeing what sticks. This shit sticked really, really hard. I still scum read you, for the reasons I've previously stated. Don't go put in my mouth words that it never pronounced.

That being said, Taheiji is so weird that I prefer having my vote there lol.

Thank you! It means a lot to me

[FM-Tokuhei]

So, Munemori and Toshikazu are both browsing the thread since a long time, but aren't saying anything... Toshikazu literally never spoke, so he didn't just leave the thread open or anything... I'm not going to plainly scumread him for this, but he's going a tiny bit below null read for this. A very very tiny bit.

[FM-Taheiji]

Also, anyone notice this rule? "English and Japanese allowed."

おまえわもう死んでいる.
なに？！

[FM-Taheiji]

So, Munemori and Toshikazu are both browsing the thread since a long time, but aren't saying anything... Toshikazu literally never spoke, so he didn't just leave the thread open or anything... I'm not going to plainly scumread him for this, but he's going a tiny bit below null read for this. A very very tiny bit.

The problem is, I townread you both (you and robun)............ also scum painting is USUALLY coming from scums, and it was more from a joke tone than anything imo? Not sure of getting where you come from with that scum team.

Hmmmmmmm??? Townread -> null -> tiny bit below null

[FM-Taheiji]

where'd you start null reading him at? did i miss it

[FM-Taheiji]

where'd you start null reading him at? did i miss it

lemme rephrase: where did you start null reading him at, or was him lurking/not posting enough to drop him all the way down from a town read to slightly below null

[FM-Taheiji]

if you can, id like at least a little clarification on this ^^ if not an explanation by the next time i pop in

[FM-Munenori]

If stating that I am town equates to me being town in your mind, then I’ll hardclaim town. Bam. I’m the first town claim. That makes me confirmed, right? Get the fuck out.

You were not the first town claim.

@FM-Munenori , you're here since the start of game but nearly didn't post. What do you have to say about the myself-masaharu argument, and what is your read on us and Kazushige, and Robun?

My list of reads coming soon, just need more people to step in.

I had to click on the name to see who that was, forgot what my name was. I think it was a TvT argument, for now...could be anything, don't have solid reads yet on anyone. still catching up.

[FM-Kazushige]

So, Munemori and Toshikazu are both browsing the thread since a long time, but aren't saying anything... Toshikazu literally never spoke, so he didn't just leave the thread open or anything... I'm not going to plainly scumread him for this, but he's going a tiny bit below null read for this. A very very tiny bit.

why so careful? fuck that @FM-Toshikazu is a scum read right now. came in, said hi and left.

[FM-Masaharu]

You were not the first town claim.

Oh, drat.

[FM-Kazushige]

You were not the first town claim.



I had to click on the name to see who that was, forgot what my name was. I think it was a TvT argument, for now...could be anything, don't have solid reads yet on anyone. still catching up.

Toku and Masa I think are TvT or WvW

but I also feel Rob and Masa are a team. im slanting towards a masa lynch right now though.

-vote fm-masaharu

^^ this guys probably my top scum right now. He initiated pushes against neither of the people he voted on, and hasn't really provided feedback on anyone that wasn't already scum-read by someone else, and just all-around feels like opportunistic scum. In fact he didn't address anyone besides tokuhei and myself, both of which seem pretty easy targets at this point in time. And even there his interaction with tokuhei didn't really reveal anything worthwhile, and he's... awfully quick to switch his vote to me, to be honest, after having argued with tokuhei pretty much the whole time until this point; it feels like he's all too eager to direct the push onto me instead of toku. Might place a vote later, and as of this moment in time (may change) I think if there is a lynch today it ought to be masa. Am against a D1 lynch however, because the mafia is limited to basically only a single kill, and having more time means more information to work with to perform accurate lynches; on top of that we have a town killing role guaranteed to us. Also, we should ascertain which killing role the mafia has. Of course waiting a night won't be enough to tell which killing role it is, but I still think that there shouldn't be a D1 lynch, unless they're pretty much confirmed scum.

thats my main reasoning

[FM-Kazushige]

Upon consideration and reflection I have peered into the depths of this world and pulled out the verdict that Tokuhei is just eager, and highly misguided. While I am aware of the highly scummy connotation with moving my vote off of him right now, I agree that Taheiji is more deserving of the pressure at the moment.

I have also decided that I'm going to turn on invisible mode so in the entirely likely scenario where I am wrong and I get assaulted in a old era kitchen sink style offensive from this slot, I have some leverage.

-vote FM-Taheiji

I also find this very scummy....it just removes more information. not just about u being online browsing, but also removes the potential for mafia to push at u for "being on but not posting". If you keep your post counts up then fine w/e but if you start vanishing into the background...im coming for you.

[FM-Munenori]

^^ this guys probably my top scum right now. He initiated pushes against neither of the people he voted on, and hasn't really provided feedback on anyone that wasn't already scum-read by someone else, and just all-around feels like opportunistic scum. In fact he didn't address anyone besides tokuhei and myself, both of which seem pretty easy targets at this point in time. And even there his interaction with tokuhei didn't really reveal anything worthwhile, and he's... awfully quick to switch his vote to me, to be honest, after having argued with tokuhei pretty much the whole time until this point; it feels like he's all too eager to direct the push onto me instead of toku. Might place a vote later, and as of this moment in time (may change) I think if there is a lynch today it ought to be masa. Am against a D1 lynch however, because the mafia is limited to basically only a single kill, and having more time means more information to work with to perform accurate lynches; on top of that we have a town killing role guaranteed to us. Also, we should ascertain which killing role the mafia has. Of course waiting a night won't be enough to tell which killing role it is, but I still think that there shouldn't be a D1 lynch, unless they're pretty much confirmed scum.

We need a flip for information, I would like a lynch today. However, no quick hammering at L-1 please allow the player room to claim. Deciding no lynching today lets the scum coast today as well.

[FM-Masaharu]

but also removes the potential for mafia to push at u for "being on but not posting".

How is this scummy?

[FM-Masaharu]

Also yeah

-unvote

I'm happy with those posts

[FM-Tokuhei]

Hmmmmmmm??? Townread -> null -> tiny bit below null

I believe you confused some names because you make no sense.

[FM-Tokuhei]

lemme rephrase: where did you start null reading him at, or was him lurking/not posting enough to drop him all the way down from a town read to slightly below null

Everyone starts as a null read, and I never townread him, his inactivity simply put him there.

[FM-Tokuhei]

why so careful? fuck that @FM-Toshikazu is a scum read right now. came in, said hi and left.

Not careful, accurate in my wording.