S-FM Sc2Mafia 2018 February

[Kenny]

just use zoom on your browser?

[Kenny]

the win conditions say this:
Starcraft Player: Survive And Dont Have Hybrid Lynched(Converted Starcraft Members Also Lose Except MafiaZ)

from my understanding this means that lynching hybrid makes citizens even lose if they get converted afterwards unless it's mafiaz

[Kenny]

another scum point for magoroth with that bullshit post now :P
maybe he's hybrid?

[Haecceity]

Bullshit, nobody loses if converted unless their clan loses.

I'm pretty sure the way Kenny explained is the only way that makes sense... But just to be sure, @Efekannn02 , care to clarify?

[Ganelon]

the win conditions say this:
Starcraft Player: Survive And Dont Have Hybrid Lynched(Converted Starcraft Members Also Lose Except MafiaZ)

from my understanding this means that lynching hybrid makes citizens even lose if they get converted afterwards unless it's mafiaz

WAIT HOLY FUCK YOU'RE RIGHT.
HYBRID IS JESTER. DON'T LYNCH HIM.

[Ganelon]

another scum point for magoroth with that bullshit post now :P
maybe he's hybrid?

Nope, because I thought you were referring to the post the new guy made - that citizens lose if converted.

[Kenny]

-unvote

[SuperJack]

I claim. AlllIiiIiivE. 0118999881999119725-3

[Kenny]

I don't speak robot AI languages

-vote SuperJack

[Ganelon]

I claim. AlllIiiIiivE. 0118999881999119725-3

Excellent. Here's Hybrid.

[Haecceity]

Interesting change of heart Magoroth

It's not like Hybrid's identity is known sooo it's not like they'll get killed so easily... unless they came out about it already? I only skimmed over the first few pages.

Edit: Nevermind >.<

[Ganelon]

By the way, that Abe Lincoln guy is me on my phone. Ignore it.

[SuperJack]

Can we lynch the sc2staff? It's always best to attack the staff.

[Kenny]

we can't

[SuperJack]

I don't speak robot AI languages

-vote SuperJack

Such elegance. Such vote. Why Kenny? Why the hate?

[Kenny]

rachyl/staff and hybrid/distorted are lynch immune

[Haecceity]

If Hybrid has access to Efe's chat, do they know Efe's identity too?

[SuperJack]

we can't

Why? Does unkillable also mean unlynchable?

[Ganelon]

By the way, that Abe Lincoln guy is me on my phone. Ignore it.

SJ is Hybrid btw, host meta says that lmao

that's probably why Rachyl is staff

[Kenny]

Right now I believe the biggest threat for the majority of townies is scvmurderer

[Ganelon]

If Hybrid has access to Efe's chat, do they know Efe's identity too?

This is the kind of question that is best left unanswered.

[Efekannn02]

Hello!

Sorry if this has been asked already, but can someone clarify what this means for me?
> (Converted Starcraft Members Also Lose Except MafiaZ)

Do Starcraft members lose if they're converted, or do they only lose if they're converted and die?

Converted Members Lose Except Those Who Joined MafiaZ Dead And Living Doesnt Really Matter

[Ganelon]

Right now I believe the biggest threat for the majority of townies is scvmurderer

So I was right then!!! :P

[Kenny]

pretty sure access means saying everything they write, but there was no night so as of now they shouldn't know a thing about any identities at all

[SuperJack]

By the way, that Abe Lincoln guy is me on my phone. Ignore it.

SJ is Hybrid btw, host meta says that lmao

that's probably why Rachyl is staff

Lol. How amusing.

Host meta?

You know host meta REQUIRES having hosted previously?

So, let see... You are making up a reason to pin a particular role on me, which means you want to mislead everyone into believing the wrong things.

How naughty of you.

[Ganelon]

Converted Members Lose Except Those Who Joined MafiaZ Dead And Living Doesnt Really Matter

Wait what?

Or is this only true if Hybrid dies?

[Kenny]

I mean I played one FM game so far and that one time I played we could choose whatever name we want in that quicktopic thing, so yea no identities unless they actually decide to reveal them in the chat

[Efekannn02]

If Hybrid has access to Efe's chat, do they know Efe's identity too?

Only If Lord Efekannn02 Reveals It In That Night Chat

[Kenny]

Wait what?

Or is this only true if Hybrid dies?

yes

[Ganelon]

Lol. How amusing.

Host meta?

You know host meta REQUIRES having hosted previously?

So, let see... You are making up a reason to pin a particular role on me, which means you want to mislead everyone into believing the wrong things.

How naughty of you.

Who says this is Efe's first time hosting? ^^ We all know Efe has been smurfing for quite some time

[SuperJack]

Who says this is Efe's first time hosting? ^^ We all know Efe has been smurfing for quite some time

News just in. I'm an Efe smurf

[Kenny]

I don't think SJ is hybrid, so I'm keeping my vote on him so far

[SuperJack]

I don't think SJ is hybrid, so I'm keeping my vote on him so far

Doesn't make sense. But w/e floats your boat.

[Efekannn02]

Wait what?

Or is this only true if Hybrid dies?

Only Clan Leaders Are Able To Win When Hybrid Gets Lynched The Rest Of The Clans (except MafiaZ) Loses!

[Kenny]

what’s up motherfuckers

this is likely a quote from someone btw, based on stealth's meta
which means stealth is not just a citizen

[Ganelon]

this is likely a quote from someone btw, based on stealth's meta
which means stealth is not just a citizen

And what would the purpose of softing a power role in this setup be?

[Ganelon]

So basically if Hybrid dies, we are fucked. Hybrid cannot die.

[Haecceity]

It seems like all the Neutrals (except Dunna) as well as CHOOO have their goals aligned...

If Hybrid reveals themselves so early on, they'd have to hope for a lynch later on in the game and thus side with someone that's not Efe - and since MafiaZ and Skwirl are aligned it's probably one of those two... It seems like a good option is to lynch Hybrid and then side with MafiaZ? I don't think SJ would have a reason for claiming Hybrid if he was just a citizen.

Also, @Efekannn02 , what is the meaning of this then > (Dead Starcraft Players Win Too) ?

[Hybrid]

let's lynch superjack

-vote SuperJack

[Kenny]

would hybrid ever say "what's up motherfuckers"?
I don't think so and I actually do believe that it might be from scvmurderer

-vote stealthbomber16

[Kenny]

-vote SuperJack

because hybrid is distorted and therefore mayor

[Hybrid]

jk, apperantly ppl know who i am. So let me read the setup really fast.

-unvote

[Ganelon]

It seems like all the Neutrals (except Dunna) as well as CHOOO have their goals aligned...

If Hybrid reveals themselves so early on, they'd have to hope for a lynch later on in the game and thus side with someone that's not Efe - and since MafiaZ and Skwirl are aligned it's probably one of those two... It seems like a good option is to lynch Hybrid and then side with MafiaZ? I don't think SJ would have a reason for claiming Hybrid if he was just a citizen.

Also, @Efekannn02, what is the meaning of this then > (Dead Starcraft Players Win Too) ?

I disagree. If Hybrid dies, we have to trust in Distorted not to start aggressively converting people (if Hybrid dies, Distorted will likely become permanently night immune, as well as a general jackass). And in MafiaZ to just convert Skwirl members, which they may not have time to do. Honestly lynching Hybrid is the worst thing we could do.

[Kenny]

-vote stealthbomber16

[SuperJack]

I vote.

-vote Haecceity

If I was a StarCraft player, I wouldn't of read into the rules and setup as deeply as Haecceity did.

I conclude that Haecceity is a power role, which one is to yet be concluded. Less power roles = simpler game.

[Ganelon]

would hybrid ever say "what's up motherfuckers"?I don't think so and I actually do believe that it might be from scvmurderer

-vote stealthbomber16

I repeat.What is the purpose of softing a power claim that went largely unnoticed. Especially in a game where power roles may or may not be scum.

[Efekannn02]

It seems like all the Neutrals (except Dunna) as well as CHOOO have their goals aligned...

If Hybrid reveals themselves so early on, they'd have to hope for a lynch later on in the game and thus side with someone that's not Efe - and since MafiaZ and Skwirl are aligned it's probably one of those two... It seems like a good option is to lynch Hybrid and then side with MafiaZ? I don't think SJ would have a reason for claiming Hybrid if he was just a citizen.

Also, @Efekannn02 , what is the meaning of this then > (Dead Starcraft Players Win Too) ?

Clanless Citizens Still Win If One Clan Wins Just To Be Generous

[Kenny]

I repeat.What is the purpose of softing a power claim that went largely unnoticed. Especially in a game where power roles may or may not be scum.

he always does that

[SuperJack]

let's lynch superjack

-vote SuperJack

No. Let's all eat cake.

[Haecceity]

I just read up on that role... WHY IS DISTORTED SO OP???