S-FM President

[Bill Clinton]

... you are quite stupid. lol good luck leading this town, since you're obviously in the know and you know what the fuck you are doing.

coming from the town idiot that posted this in a two minute timespan:

I'm not voting until everyone can agree to a President. What the fuck are you doing?
@Richard Nixon I'd like for you to tell me your take on Bush

Fuck then let's vote Reagan. What is important is that we AGREE to a candidate today.

Nope my top Lynch target is Nixon unless someone can convince me to vote for someone else, BECAUSE in this setup and on this day, we're not voting by killing whoever we aren't town reading, we are killing our TOP scum reads. Smh Except for JFK everyone in this fucking setup is scummy as fuck, the only question is HOW scummy

i really don't give a fuck about your opinion

[Abraham Lincoln]

If bush is scum, so are you, IMO. He pushed the same narrative as you that we had to lynch either Clinton or Reagan even though it's not true, and for much of the game he's said he didn't read entire blocks of posts because he considered them spam, which is a convenient way for a scum to discredit and also avoid responding to significant portions of the game. He also said during D2 that he scumread me for a good reason but he couldn't remember what it was. He's also the only person besides Jefferson who hasn't claimed a role, which could have town WIFOM points to it but is often cuz scum don't want to commit to a fake role.

All that being said, I currently townread him specifically because he wanted to avoid revealing to the scum that if they voted Teddy that had a pretty much surefire chance of winning the game. He's also made genuine effort to get a town president elected.

So you just described Bush to me.
Are you scum reading him for what he did yesterday but town reading him for what he did today? I don't like balancing those two sides, maybe my brain is too tiny but I don't entirely trust him. This is also my take on him however, which is why I asked you give me yours. It seems to be the same, with the notable exception that I have no REAL opinion on Bush except for a slight town lean based off of what he did today.

[Abraham Lincoln]

coming from the town idiot that posted this in a two minute timespan:




i really don't give a fuck about your opinion

I give even less of a fuck about yours, because you are scum reading everyone who's trying to move the game forward/scumhunt/everyone who's pushing you.

[Bill Clinton]

If bush is scum, so are you, IMO. He pushed the same narrative as you that we had to lynch either Clinton or Reagan even though it's not true, and for much of the game he's said he didn't read entire blocks of posts because he considered them spam, which is a convenient way for a scum to discredit and also avoid responding to significant portions of the game. He also said during D2 that he scumread me for a good reason but he couldn't remember what it was. He's also the only person besides Jefferson who hasn't claimed a role, which could have town WIFOM points to it but is often cuz scum don't want to commit to a fake role.

All that being said, I currently townread him specifically because he wanted to avoid revealing to the scum that if they voted Teddy that had a pretty much surefire chance of winning the game. He's also made genuine effort to get a town president elected.

+1
it has been really bothering me that bush has been ignoring huge and helpful posts, which is why i have a scum lean on him, and i feel that since i've stated i am enfp he is using appeal to emotion a lot more now. ("i'm gonna replace out wah!!! not enough people are doing the work for me!! wah!")

I would say they didn't know if you were really assassin and would shoot somebody so they probably wanted to make sure they could get another mislynch today, and the easy way to do that was for consort Lincoln to roleblock somebody and for mafia to not attack and then pin the guy who is roleblocked as scum

ok, i could consider this but i don't see it likely.

does anyone think they shot obama last night too?

[Abraham Lincoln]

coming from the town idiot that posted this in a two minute timespan:




i really don't give a fuck about your opinion

Yep that makes perfect sense from my side, I wanted to hear Nixon's take on Bush because from Nixon's perspective, Bush is either a tunneling town or 100% confirmed scum. And he said he is townreading him. Doesn't change the fact that I am scum reading him, but I'm talking to Nixon based off of the tiny chance that he could be town, in which case HEARING his opinion is fucking important to me.

[Richard Nixon]

+1
it has been really bothering me that bush has been ignoring huge and helpful posts, which is why i have a scum lean on him, and i feel that since i've stated i am enfp he is using appeal to emotion a lot more now. ("i'm gonna replace out wah!!! not enough people are doing the work for me!! wah!")



ok, i could consider this but i don't see it likely.

does anyone think they shot obama last night too?

I suppose that's possible but IMO Lincoln is consort and if he wasn't , then Reagan would be mafia.
However, I feel that Lincoln has acted far more scummily than Reagan so Lincoln would be my choice

[Abraham Lincoln]

+1
it has been really bothering me that bush has been ignoring huge and helpful posts, which is why i have a scum lean on him, and i feel that since i've stated i am enfp he is using appeal to emotion a lot more now. ("i'm gonna replace out wah!!! not enough people are doing the work for me!! wah!")



ok, i could consider this but i don't see it likely.

does anyone think they shot obama last night too?

Yep this is a big no-no on Bush, but I don't see how he is scum if Nixon is town. Bush wouldn't even have to post, all it would've taken a few minutes ago for scummy Bush to win was to remain silent on the Nixon matter, NOT POST STUFF THAT'S SURE TO HAVE THE EFFECT ON ME OF NO LONGER PUSHING NIXON.

[Richard Nixon]

So you just described Bush to me.
Are you scum reading him for what he did yesterday but town reading him for what he did today? I don't like balancing those two sides, maybe my brain is too tiny but I don't entirely trust him. This is also my take on him however, which is why I asked you give me yours. It seems to be the same, with the notable exception that I have no REAL opinion on Bush except for a slight town lean based off of what he did today.

But D2 is pretty irrelevant unfortunately because Roosevelt carried the scum and made the whole day a push to lynch Washington - hence none of the scum really had to reveal themselves D2
and D1 is pretty irrelevant because there was no lynch and thus really no pressure
Hence, sadly, D3 has just been the only really telling day of the game IMO

[Abraham Lincoln]

But D2 is pretty irrelevant unfortunately because Roosevelt carried the scum and made the whole day a push to lynch Washington - hence none of the scum really had to reveal themselves D2
and D1 is pretty irrelevant because there was no lynch and thus really no pressure
Hence, sadly, D3 has just been the only really telling day of the game IMO

I disagree, d1 is definitely not irrelevant. Who voted for who and who campaigned for the Presidency and WHY is an incredibly important source of information.

[Bill Clinton]

I suppose that's possible but IMO Lincoln is consort and if he wasn't , then Reagan would be mafia.
However, I feel that Lincoln has acted far more scummily than Reagan so Lincoln would be my choice

hmmm...i could consider the lynch between the two. i see jfk as scummy and he won't lynch lincoln.
i just know the player behind lincoln is an actual idiot tho and am unsure if he could pull a fast one like this.
BUT day 1 he apparently role blocked truman, who died. he is unconfirmed as fuck. but the thing is - reagan would either be mafia with him, or could actually be a citizen that was targetted to confirm roleblock ability.

this could be ...

-vote abraham lincoln

inb4 him "WHAT THE FUCK IM ON L-2 TAKE ME OFF FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK"

[Abraham Lincoln]

hmmm...i could consider the lynch between the two. i see jfk as scummy and he won't lynch lincoln.
i just know the player behind lincoln is an actual idiot tho and am unsure if he could pull a fast one like this.
BUT day 1 he apparently role blocked truman, who died. he is unconfirmed as fuck. but the thing is - reagan would either be mafia with him, or could actually be a citizen that was targetted to confirm roleblock ability.

this could be ...

-vote abraham lincoln

inb4 him "WHAT THE FUCK IM ON L-2 TAKE ME OFF FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK"

Lol you guys are total noobs. If I were consort I would've someone who HADN'T died d1, given that Reagan actually confirmed I blocked him. Not doing so literally neither confirms nor infirms my position. Why would I do that?

[Abraham Lincoln]

hmmm...i could consider the lynch between the two. i see jfk as scummy and he won't lynch lincoln.
i just know the player behind lincoln is an actual idiot tho and am unsure if he could pull a fast one like this.
BUT day 1 he apparently role blocked truman, who died. he is unconfirmed as fuck. but the thing is - reagan would either be mafia with him, or could actually be a citizen that was targetted to confirm roleblock ability.

this could be ...

-vote abraham lincoln

inb4 him "WHAT THE FUCK IM ON L-2 TAKE ME OFF FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK"

Lol if you're town and you Lynch me it's utter GG and I'm not saying anything because that's your problem. I have displayed my case.

[Richard Nixon]

I disagree, d1 is definitely not irrelevant. Who voted for who and who campaigned for the Presidency and WHY is an incredibly important source of information.

But Washington is dead and confirmed town, Obama is dead and confirmed town... nobody else really campaigned or had a chance at being elected and we've already seen people who voted for both of them end up dead and turn out to be town. The scum could just lie about who they were voting during D1 anyway

[Abraham Lincoln]

I guess it's time to update my lw so I can call you all MORONS.

[Richard Nixon]

Lol you guys are total noobs. If I were consort I would've someone who HADN'T died d1, given that Reagan actually confirmed I blocked him. Not doing so literally neither confirms nor infirms my position. Why would I do that?

When you revealed as escort D2 and said u blocked Truman, you claimed scum were framing you because they somehow knew you were escort and that Truman was your target. This is a great way to give yourself an alibi in case an investigative role saw you visit Truman when you made the factional kill N1. Then N2 you "confirm" yourself by actually roleblocking somebody and hence push the mislynch on him

[Abraham Lincoln]

Note that you cannot scum read me for failing to block d1 because blocking a dead person day one is just no go, unless mafia didn't kill him last night - Mafia have a night chat, so I think I would better coordinate my actions with the mafia. Or perhaps I would not claim escort at all.

[Abraham Lincoln]

When you revealed as escort D2 and said u blocked Truman, you claimed scum were framing you because they somehow knew you were escort and that Truman was your target. This is a great way to give yourself an alibi in case an investigative role saw you visit Truman when you made the factional kill N1. Then N2 you "confirm" yourself by actually roleblocking somebody and hence push the mislynch on him

Nope, that's utter bullshit. A better alibi would be to actually role block someone d1, wouldn't it? ^^

[Richard Nixon]

Note that you cannot scum read me for failing to block d1 because blocking a dead person day one is just no go, unless mafia didn't kill him last night - Mafia have a night chat, so I think I would better coordinate my actions with the mafia. Or perhaps I would not claim escort at all.

Read my post above yours

[Richard Nixon]

Nope, that's utter bullshit. A better alibi would be to actually role block someone d1, wouldn't it? ^^

This way you can make the factional kill n1, survive through d2, and then confirm yourself n2. I am guessing then that your teammates have used their abilities each night, I am going to go look at the roles to see what they probably are then

[Abraham Lincoln]

When you revealed as escort D2 and said u blocked Truman, you claimed scum were framing you because they somehow knew you were escort and that Truman was your target. This is a great way to give yourself an alibi in case an investigative role saw you visit Truman when you made the factional kill N1. Then N2 you "confirm" yourself by actually roleblocking somebody and hence push the mislynch on him

Put yourself in my shoes however, WHY would I role block Truman n1 as scum consort? Unless scum actually have more potent roles than escort there's no reason for them to send me for a kill. And I believe we've already proven they cannot be Tracker/Consiglière/Bus Driver/Bruiser. So the only possibility is that we have one consort, one >something< and one Mafioso.

[Abraham Lincoln]

This way you can make the factional kill n1, survive through d2, and then confirm yourself n2. I am guessing then that your teammates have used their abilities each night, I am going to go look at the roles to see what they probably are then

Keep guessing, scum ^^

[Richard Nixon]

Put yourself in my shoes however, WHY would I role block Truman n1 as scum consort? Unless scum actually have more potent roles than escort there's no reason for them to send me for a kill. And I believe we've already proven they cannot be Tracker/Consiglière/Bus Driver/Bruiser. So the only possibility is that we have one consort, one >something< and one Mafioso.

Consort - sent for faction kill n1 and rb Reagan n2

Tracker, Consigliere, Framer, Beguiler I think could all be your teammate's roles that would make sense to use their night abilities each night.

You would be the safest to send for the factional kill too because you could then confirm yourself as escort the next night, whereas if any of these guys were caught doing the factional kill they would be screwed. It's not like there would be much point N1 to randomly roleblock a townie.

Furthermore, the two people Truman had as red on his D1 big readlist post were you and I, and as soon as D2 started you were pushing that only people who Truman was town-reading have something to gain from his death.

[Bill Clinton]

Note that you cannot scum read me for failing to block d1 because blocking a dead person day one is just no go, unless mafia didn't kill him last night - Mafia have a night chat, so I think I would better coordinate my actions with the mafia. Or perhaps I would not claim escort at all.

this makes no sense lol.

if i can try to fill in the giant blanks, mafia had night 1 to coordinate. if you are mafia roleblocker, then you had all night to talk to them about choosing who to send for the kill and what to do day 2. you didn't reveal your role until day 2. and you tried REALLY hard to make it seem like you slipped your role, too. and the story that mafia figured it out made no sense, this is highly scummy.

Mafia do have a night chat yes, and based on the order of events, you could have 100% coordinated your actions with the mafia.

[George Bush]

So you just described Bush to me.
Are you scum reading him for what he did yesterday but town reading him for what he did today? I don't like balancing those two sides, maybe my brain is too tiny but I don't entirely trust him. This is also my take on him however, which is why I asked you give me yours. It seems to be the same, with the notable exception that I have no REAL opinion on Bush except for a slight town lean based off of what he did today.

i can't even anymore.

Ok, I suggest everyone adding Lincoln to their block list because we really can't entertain him anymore. He is hindering all progress and promoting confusion.

I would like town to vote me president.

Reagan was roleblocked, and I used my town assassin shot on Obama.
Can anyone else think of any reasons why mafia would NOT KILL? Otherwise, I am pretty set on Reagan being the one that was sent for Mafia's night kill.
And why are people trusting JFK? A part of me wanted to shoot him for the canon, as well as the fact that I scum read him.

I vote you for president if Reagan is our lynch

[George Bush]

Yeah, Lincoln blocking the same person as the kill makes sense that he's not a scum stripper.

Also lol at scum Clinton and scum Nixon pushing Lincoln with Roosevelt. I know I was just pushing Lincoln, but can't in good conscience vote him today bc of the day 1 claim. I forgot about that. And it's a great point.

[Richard Nixon]

Reagan, Jefferson I see you lurking what are your thoughts on lynch and president vote?

[Richard Nixon]

Yeah, Lincoln blocking the same person as the kill makes sense that he's not a scum stripper.

Also lol at scum Clinton and scum Nixon pushing Lincoln with Roosevelt. I know I was just pushing Lincoln, but can't in good conscience vote him today bc of the day 1 claim. I forgot about that. And it's a great point.

He claimed escort day TWO not one. He was sent for the kill rather than roleblocking the kill..

[George Bush]

He claimed escort day TWO not one. He was sent for the kill rather than roleblocking the kill..

I don't buy that.

[Richard Nixon]

Yeah, Lincoln blocking the same person as the kill makes sense that he's not a scum stripper.

Also lol at scum Clinton and scum Nixon pushing Lincoln with Roosevelt. I know I was just pushing Lincoln, but can't in good conscience vote him today bc of the day 1 claim. I forgot about that. And it's a great point.

Roosevelt has left his vote on Lincoln to PREVENT him from being lynched. He would unvote Lincoln if Lincoln were put to L-1 IMO. It's simple: if town are unwilling to lynch whoever Roosevelt has his vote on, then he can effectively protect all of the scums just by voting them

[George Bush]

Lincoln, you really really really need to shut up. I'm slotting you as town I think, but you're really not helping. No one is taking you seriously because you're not thinking about what you're typing. You can do better, and must if we're going to win.

So for now, vote.

[George Bush]

Roosevelt has left his vote on Lincoln to PREVENT him from being lynched. He would unvote Lincoln if Lincoln were put to L-1 IMO. It's simple: if town are unwilling to lynch whoever Roosevelt has his vote on, then he can effectively protect all of the scums just by voting them

Yeah, but it's Lincoln. I've been whittling away at his credibility for a while now. Your theory that you're saying above would work with anyone else.

[Richard Nixon]

Roosevelt has left his vote on Lincoln to PREVENT him from being lynched. He would unvote Lincoln if Lincoln were put to L-1 IMO. It's simple: if town are unwilling to lynch whoever Roosevelt has his vote on, then he can effectively protect all of the scums just by voting them

and, BTW, Roosevelt put his vote on Lincoln when nobody else had votes on him, whereas he put ME at L-1 earlier when Lincoln tried to push that turbolynch through

[Ronald Reagan]

Wtf is happenning. I am catching up!

[Bill Clinton]

I don't buy that.

how do you not buy that? please show us where he hard claimed escort day one then.

[Bill Clinton]

Wtf is happenning. I am catching up!

just skim through the lincoln posts honestly..lol they don't make much sense

[Ronald Reagan]

But lincolm have been confused the whole game . That is usualy a town sign. A lot of things could have happenned last night. It is possible that scums used Lincolm. Or he is scum.

[Abraham Lincoln]

@George Bush - vote? Vote what? For Lynch? My Lynch vote is obviously Nixon at this point.

[Ronald Reagan]

When you revealed as escort D2 and said u blocked Truman, you claimed scum were framing you because they somehow knew you were escort and that Truman was your target. This is a great way to give yourself an alibi in case an investigative role saw you visit Truman when you made the factional kill N1. Then N2 you "confirm" yourself by actually roleblocking somebody and hence push the mislynch on him

Yeah what he said d2 didnt have any sense.

[George Bush]

But lincolm have been confused the whole game . That is usualy a town sign. A lot of things could have happenned last night. It is possible that scums used Lincolm. Or he is scum.

more wishy washy could be anything bullshit.

vote nixon, or clinton, or me, because either i'm scum and they're both town, or i'm town and you can't lynch without me.

[George Bush]

@George Bush - vote? Vote what? For Lynch? My Lynch vote is obviously Nixon at this point.

can you vote, and i'll unvote then? I can have hammer.

[Abraham Lincoln]

My Presidential vote is obviously Bush. Nobody else. We need to agree on this.

[Abraham Lincoln]

can you vote, and i'll unvote then? I can have hammer.

Ok, so people trust my vote and have less reason to fear it.
But you unvote first.

[Richard Nixon]

Wtf is happenning. I am catching up!

Kennedy and Bush leave their votes on me and then go to sleep.

Lincoln sees nobody is on and scumpaints me heavily, voting me and pinging everyone in the lobby to VOTE NIXON AS SOON AS YOU COME ONLINE! (he literally said that). He got me to L-1 with Teddy voting me as well but then hit a roadblock -
The next person to come online was me, and in the process of defending myself I think I revealed that Lincoln is a consort.
Clinton and Bush came online and agreed that Lincoln's arguments were shitty but only Clinton voted Lincoln with me, who also had Teddy's vote sitting on him and he is thus at L-2.

IMO, we should lynch Lincoln and you should vote me for president, or else you should lynch me and vote Lincoln for president, because I cannot believe that we are both town and hence if there is not a mislynch we would have a guaranteed town president tomorrow

[Thomas Jefferson]

Reagan, Jefferson I see you lurking what are your thoughts on lynch and president vote?

Lincoln has been like this ALL GAME. I don't know why its taken you all so long to catch on. Either the most confused and frantic town or just plain deceptive and scum. I haven't trusted him all game, and do not take him seriously. I can see a president Clinton given he has nothing to lose now that he's shot, and has mellowed out from D2 and D1, but for right now unless convinced otherwise I have my vote on Reagan.
Not trying to lurk, sometimes I just keep this page on. Trying to make sense of all of this in which we are getting pulled every which direction is frustrating.
I will vote for Lincoln if it comes down to it, given the best circumstances. I don't feel comfortable parking a vote anywhere right now given the amount of time left and our situation.

[Ronald Reagan]

this makes no sense lol.

if i can try to fill in the giant blanks, mafia had night 1 to coordinate. if you are mafia roleblocker, then you had all night to talk to them about choosing who to send for the kill and what to do day 2. you didn't reveal your role until day 2. and you tried REALLY hard to make it seem like you slipped your role, too. and the story that mafia figured it out made no sense, this is highly scummy.

Mafia do have a night chat yes, and based on the order of events, you could have 100% coordinated your actions with the mafia.

Fuck it. We have to lynch someone and it look like scums are not voting for him too. This game is giving me headaches. Seriously.

-vote Abraham Lincoln

[Abraham Lincoln]

Fuck it. We have to lynch someone and it look like scums are not voting for him too. This game is giving me headaches. Seriously.

-vote Abraham Lincoln

...k

-vote Ronald Reagan

[George Bush]

Lincoln has been like this ALL GAME. I don't know why its taken you all so long to catch on. Either the most confused and frantic town or just plain deceptive and scum. I haven't trusted him all game, and do not take him seriously. I can see a president Clinton given he has nothing to lose now that he's shot, and has mellowed out from D2 and D1, but for right now unless convinced otherwise I have my vote on Reagan.
Not trying to lurk, sometimes I just keep this page on. Trying to make sense of all of this in which we are getting pulled every which direction is frustrating.
I will vote for Lincoln if it comes down to it, given the best circumstances. I don't feel comfortable parking a vote anywhere right now given the amount of time left and our situation.

excellent, here's 3rd scum.

We need Lincoln, Reagan, and Trump to vote Nixon.

[Abraham Lincoln]

-vote Richard Nixon

Reagan if you're town you're making a horrible mistake lol

[George Bush]

WOW is this GG?

Jefferson's going to hammer rn, or he's town.

[George Bush]

Fuck it. We have to lynch someone and it look like scums are not voting for him too. This game is giving me headaches. Seriously.

-vote Abraham Lincoln

WHAT SCUMS AREN'T VOTING FOR HIM? DO YOU REALLY THINK JFK AND I ARE SCUM? ARE YOU KIDDING.