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  1. #1

    Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    I really don't get it... Slavery no longer exists, or very very little. Nazism is still a strong ideology. Like, very strong. But it got stomped hard during WW2, and was declared illegal and all, in a similar way that was used against slavery with the secession war. But it sticks. Anyone got an idea why?
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  2. #2

    Re: Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    Slavery no longer exists
    LMAO
    Elizabeth II still has more then 1 billions slaves, can you not see that?

    #parlimentary democracy
    Last edited by Tauntshaman; June 28th, 2018 at 10:27 AM.
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    Re: Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    Because of capitalism.
    take "United" States as an example,
    they have a lot of illegal immigrants;
    illegal immigrants need to live;
    they need work to earn money;
    they are satisfied even if they get low wages;
    capitalists hire more illegal immigrants;
    red necks loses jobs because of Capitalists only care about earn more money, but they are brainwashed and believes that it's the illegal immigrants who are causing the trouble;
    hatred toward illegal immigrants spreads among red necks;
    red neck nationalism rises.
    trump calls latin america countries "shit hole"
    red necks are deceived that trump represents their benefit;
    trump becomes the president of the US.

    same things happens in europe.

    You see, capitalist world periodically go into economic crises, and every time economic crisis comes, either some countries get destroyed, or you have a world war.
    WWI, 1914-1918
    great depression, 1929-1939 (led to WWII)
    WWII, 1939-1945
    cuban missile crisis, 1962 (WWIII prevented by atomic bombs)
    nixon visits china, 1972
    plaza accord, 1985 (death of Japan)
    dissolution of USSR, 1991 (death of USSR)
    2008 financial crisis
    trump winning election, 2016 (death of USA)
    and count how many years are between these events:
    1916-1929-1941-1962-1972-1985-1991-2008-2016
    13 12 21 10 13 7 17 8

    you may argue that this is a coincidence, but you can't deny that we are still affected by the 2008 financial crisis today. Thus, it's not strange that nazism "still" is a strong ideology

    also, remember how Nazi stands for "national socialism" and how communist organizations are named "xth international"?
    when you have no more power houses boosting internationalism, of course nationalism will rise
    Last edited by Tauntshaman; June 28th, 2018 at 11:05 AM.
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    Re: Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tauntshaman View Post
    LMAO
    Elizabeth II still has more then 1 billions slaves, can you not see that?

    #parlimentary democracy
    I expected this kind of answer. But I swear that if you bring communism in there, I'll start telling you why that system is flawed (and I'm not saying capitalism is perfect, but it still works better lol).
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    I wanted to buy a kinder egg in usa. But apparently they arn't sold because they are too dangerous.
    So I bought two assault rifles instead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Imagine this convo going down in real life
    “Alright Enzo come shoot my house up tonight, someone else will be there. I think. Most likely.”

  5. #5

    Re: Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tauntshaman View Post
    Because of capitalism.
    take "United" States as an example,
    they have a lot of illegal immigrants;
    illegal immigrants need to live;
    they need work to earn money;
    they are satisfied even if they get low wages;
    capitalists hire more illegal immigrants;
    red necks loses jobs because of Capitalists only care about earn more money, but they are brainwashed and believes that it's the illegal immigrants who are causing the trouble;
    hatred toward illegal immigrants spreads among red necks;
    red neck nationalism rises.
    trump calls latin america countries "shit hole"
    red necks are deceived that trump represents their benefit;
    trump becomes the president of the US.

    same things happens in europe.

    You see, capitalist world periodically go into economic crises, and every time economic crisis comes, either some countries get destroyed, or you have a world war.
    WWI, 1914-1918
    great depression, 1929-1939 (led to WWII)
    WWII, 1939-1945
    cuban missile crisis, 1962 (WWIII prevented by atomic bombs)
    nixon visits china, 1972
    plaza accord, 1985 (death of Japan)
    dissolution of USSR, 1991 (death of USSR)
    2008 financial crisis
    trump winning election, 2016 (death of USA)
    and count how many years are between these events:
    1916-1929-1941-1962-1972-1985-1991-2008-2016
    13 12 21 10 13 7 17 8

    you may argue that this is a coincidence, but you can't deny that we are still affected by the 2008 financial crisis today. Thus, it's not strange that nazism "still" is a strong ideology

    also, remember how Nazi stands for "national socialism" and how communist organizations are named "xth international"?
    when you have no more power houses boosting internationalism, of course nationalism will rise
    I know that. But my question is why is it STILL a thing. Facism is a "counter-ideal" to communism. But I won't get into that. So you're saying that when no more communist states that are strong counter nationalism, it rises hard? Your list of events is flawed by your own point of view. "Death" of a country =/= becomes more right-winged. Plus, there are no nazo countries atm. I don't mean a general thing that could maybe perhaps be related with nazism... I mean the ideology itself.
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    I wanted to buy a kinder egg in usa. But apparently they arn't sold because they are too dangerous.
    So I bought two assault rifles instead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Imagine this convo going down in real life
    “Alright Enzo come shoot my house up tonight, someone else will be there. I think. Most likely.”

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    Re: Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tauntshaman View Post
    Because of capitalism.
    take "United" States as an example,
    they have a lot of illegal immigrants;
    illegal immigrants need to live;
    they need work to earn money;
    they are satisfied even if they get low wages;
    capitalists hire more illegal immigrants;
    red necks loses jobs because of Capitalists only care about earn more money, but they are brainwashed and believes that it's the illegal immigrants who are causing the trouble;
    hatred toward illegal immigrants spreads among red necks;
    red neck nationalism rises.
    trump calls latin america countries "shit hole"
    red necks are deceived that trump represents their benefit;
    trump becomes the president of the US.

    same things happens in europe.

    You see, capitalist world periodically go into economic crises, and every time economic crisis comes, either some countries get destroyed, or you have a world war.
    WWI, 1914-1918
    great depression, 1929-1939 (led to WWII)
    WWII, 1939-1945
    cuban missile crisis, 1962 (WWIII prevented by atomic bombs)
    nixon visits china, 1972
    plaza accord, 1985 (death of Japan)
    dissolution of USSR, 1991 (death of USSR)
    2008 financial crisis
    trump winning election, 2016 (death of USA)
    and count how many years are between these events:
    1916-1929-1941-1962-1972-1985-1991-2008-2016
    13 12 21 10 13 7 17 8

    you may argue that this is a coincidence, but you can't deny that we are still affected by the 2008 financial crisis today. Thus, it's not strange that nazism "still" is a strong ideology

    also, remember how Nazi stands for "national socialism" and how communist organizations are named "xth international"?
    when you have no more power houses boosting internationalism, of course nationalism will rise
    Wat.
    Last edited by Magoroth; June 28th, 2018 at 02:26 PM.

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    Re: Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    What makes you think Trump is a national socialist? Deporting illegal immigrants is somewhat xenophobic but it's a far throw from what Nazi Germany did. Besides, they're illegal immigrants. They shouldn't even be in the country in the first place.
    Last edited by Magoroth; June 28th, 2018 at 02:25 PM.

  9. #9

    Re: Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow Marshall View Post
    I really don't get it... Slavery no longer exists, or very very little. Nazism is still a strong ideology. Like, very strong. But it got stomped hard during WW2, and was declared illegal and all, in a similar way that was used against slavery with the secession war. But it sticks. Anyone got an idea why?
    How and where is Nazism still a strong ideology? Source please

  10. #10

    Re: Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    Wat.
    Nazism was actually born out of Communism/Socialism.

    1. Nazi German propaganda and Soviet propaganda. Both focused on the workingman and both depicting an 'homo novus'.

    2. The Nazi party (or outside observers), in the early '20s, described the 'Hitler faith' as a variant of Leninism.

    3. A senior Nazi official (I think it was either Hitler himself or Goebbels) admitted, in private, that National Socialism had borrowed extensively from Marxism.

    4. National Socialism and Fascism were both reactionary movements, formed as counterrevolutionary responses to Communism and, respectively, Italian Socialism.

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    Re: Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    How and where is Nazism still a strong ideology? Source please
    There was this video a year back or so with over 100k views and a strong like bar on youtube. It was a passionate reading of Mein Kampf with scenery of nature. But any ideology looks big when you concentrate it on the internet I guess. The alt right sympathizes with the far right in general. But it'd certainly make more sense if Marsh said "fascism".

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    Re: Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    There was this video a year back or so with over 100k views and a strong like bar on youtube. It was a passionate reading of Mein Kampf with scenery of nature. But any ideology looks big when you concentrate it on the internet I guess. The alt right sympathizes with the far right in general. But it'd certainly make more sense if Marsh said "fascism".
    Yeah. Let's not discount the trolls, who were admittedly most likely a minority of the 'likes'.

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    Re: Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tauntshaman View Post
    LMAO
    Elizabeth II still has more then 1 billions slaves, can you not see that?

    #parlimentary democracy
    I'm British and I honestly have no clue what you're talking about. Also, 1 billion slaves? The Queen is no more than a figurehead in most of her realms - even in the UK, she holds little power.

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    Re: Nazism: why is it still a thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by yzb25 View Post
    The slaves are gone but nazism remains, because an industry is much easier to destroy than an idea.
    This is true.
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperJack View Post
    I wanted to buy a kinder egg in usa. But apparently they arn't sold because they are too dangerous.
    So I bought two assault rifles instead.
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16 View Post
    Imagine this convo going down in real life
    “Alright Enzo come shoot my house up tonight, someone else will be there. I think. Most likely.”

 

 

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