M-FM IV Gamethread

[Guardian]

all of them Failed?

[CmG]

the pantomime was the best in hot fuzz

[TheWaaagh]

Sorry 196/1000

You should know Guardian, random.org ain't got shit on me.

[Deathfire123]

all of them Failed?

My previous post said you only get ONE day action today

[Guardian]

You should know Guardian, random.org ain't got shit on me.

i may do the -shoot The Waaagh 1000 times over and over again.
you may or may not escape.

[Guardian]

i may do the -shoot The Waaagh 1000 times over and over again.
you may or may not escape.

Of course, it is rigged in the no action favor, as 12/1000 is ......

[CmG]

Well whatever i have enough trolled now. Maybe we can use the day for some better things when all people said hello. Until then ...
laters

[Guardian]

Well whatever i have enough trolled now. Maybe we can use the day for some better things when all people said hello. Until then ...
laters

hello!

[TheWaaagh]

Well whatever i have enough trolled now. Maybe we can use the day for some better things when all people said hello. Until then ...
laters

Well if scum CmG is leaving then there's no point in me sticking around either.

[Guardian]

if no one wants to talk, no point in me staying on day1...
-vote day end

lets get to the real games.
Serious mode activated.

[Muso]

-vote day end

[Luna]

Luna in the house, yo!

Yay someone else who had a delayed start of game because it takes them hours to write RP and find music, PRIORITIES: WE GOT THEM

[Guardian]

Luna in the house, yo!

Yay someone else who had a delayed start of game because it takes them hours to write RP and find music, PRIORITIES: WE GOT THEM

Of course we do.
Serious mode deactivated.
Fun time s now!

[Zane]

please stop the trolling, we need to find out who's the scum

[Guardian]

please stop the trolling, we need to find out who's the scum

awwwww.

[Guardian]

500th post.

[Kromos]

Everyone must fill out this questionnaire. If you do not, I will consider you scum.


Who is the person you trust the most? (You can only answer with a name. DON'T say you trust no one or haven't mind your mind up yet. Who is the person you instinctively trust the most from what they have said so far?) Why do you trust them the most?

Do you think this game is unfair (imbalanced against) for the Town? Why / why not?

Do you think this game is unfair for the Mafia? Why / why not?

Do you think this game is unfair for Jeremiah Gottwald? Why / why not?

Do you think this game is unfair for Diethard Ried? Why / why not?


For each question you must give a boolean (yes / no) answer followed by your reasons. Don't give wishy washy, troll or undecided answers as this is a sure sign of scum and won't give me the information I want.

I may come up with some more questions later. Hopefully we can find out something useful from Day 1. I'll answer this myself in a bit.

[Kromos]

Give these questions a great deal of thought. Reread the FAQ so you understand the balance and can make informed comments about it. It is probably best to answer these questions towards the end of the day.

[Guardian]

Everyone must fill out this questionnaire. If you do not, I will consider you scum.


Who is the person you trust the most? (You can only answer with a name. DON'T say you trust no one or haven't mind your mind up yet. Who is the person you instinctively trust the most from what they have said so far?) Why do you trust them the most?

Do you think this game is unfair (imbalanced against) for the Town? Why / why not?

Do you think this game is unfair for the Mafia? Why / why not?

Do you think this game is unfair for Jeremiah Gottwald? Why / why not?

Do you think this game is unfair for Diethard Ried? Why / why not?


For each question you must give a boolean (yes / no) answer followed by your reasons. Don't give wishy washy, troll or undecided answers as this is a sure sign of scum and won't give me the information I want.

I may come up with some more questions later. Hopefully we can find out something useful from Day 1. I'll answer this myself in a bit.

1)Zane.The non-troll.
2)Yes.12 town vs 8 non-town becomes 9 town vs 9 non-town if the revolutionist recruits successfully.
3)No.They have people who can join them and a witch-capable leader.
4)Nope.Wont be killed easily.
5)No.He can become allied with the mafia .....

[Zane]

Who is the person you trust the most? (You can only answer with a name. DON'T say you trust no one or haven't mind your mind up yet. Who is the person you instinctively trust the most from what they have said so far?) Why do you trust them the most?

Zane, the banana king, because he's the banana king

Do you think this game is unfair (imbalanced against) for the Town? Why / why not?

watermelon , because green

Do you think this game is unfair for the Mafia? Why / why not?

apple, because red

Do you think this game is unfair for Jeremiah Gottwald? Why / why not?

orange , because orange

Do you think this game is unfair for Diethard Ried? Why / why not?

chocolate, because brown

[Guardian]

1)Zane.The non-troll.
2)Yes.12 town vs 8 non-town becomes 9 town vs 9 non-town if the revolutionist recruits successfully.
3)No.They have people who can join them and a witch-capable leader.
4)Nope.Wont be killed easily.
5)No.He can become allied with the mafia .....

I take back what i said about Zane.

[GameFreak]

Here i was thinking this game would be somewhat like SC2 Mafia.

[Guardian]

Here i was thinking this game would be somewhat like SC2 Mafia.

Its different yet similar.
Day 1 is still troll day.
Difference : being trolly/griefy may get you placed on the reserve next game.
Your attitude and abilities affect how other player look at you at react to you.
I.E:you can lie perfectly. Next game people wont trust as much.

[GameFreak]

I'm a bad liar , this is Mafia after all.
Although i've noticed people seem to judge based more on Name then on gameplay,
but i'll see who the trolls are soon enough.

[jaczac]

Jaczac here, just posting in for the day.
Just saying im exited coz ive never oplayed withs revs b4. Very weak.

[GameFreak]

Jaczac here, just posting in for the day.
Just saying im exited coz ive never oplayed withs revs b4. Very weak.

Damn you abbreviate alot , what exactly are 'revs' ?

[jaczac]

Revolutionists

No me gusta typing

[Luna]

People actively accusing others of being scum for having a laugh on day one are playing anti-Town. Trolling is a frequent strategy used by Town PRs.

If anything I think Kromos is scum at this point because he is using his 'questionnaire' to reveal who might be the most threat to the Mafia and to make him look like a concerned Town player. Did you all enjoy filling out his questionnaire when electing people to the Quorum in M-FMIII?

[Zack]

So, it started.

Troll level up?

Attachment 816

And yes Luna, those were my thoughts too. I do not submit questionnaires to someone who could be scum, answer it yourself first, then explain in detail why you put that thing here in the first place, what kind of information are you looking for sir Kromos? Unless you answer I will not answer too, heh

[Kromos]

@Luna

Everyone loves my questionnaires. That's why Dust used it for FM VIII.

@ Zack

I could tell you why this questionnaire should be useful but you already know why. No member of the town should have anything to fear from answering these questions so I think it looks very scummy that you are shying away from them. Both you and Luna are saying I could be scum as an excuse for not answering, yet even if I were scum these answers would benefit the town.

I will answer closer to the end so I have a better answer for the person I most trust.

@Zane

You have done what I expected some people to do. Trolling is the defence of scum who can't think of a good enough answer (e.g. Zack in M-FM III). It is only your past history that makes me unsure of you.

[Nick]

Questionnaires work both ways. I'll wait until everyone has posted before I decide whether to reply Kromos.

[GameFreak]

I'll see what the rest does and play safe ...

[Kromos]

I'll see what the rest does and play safe ...

Typical noob scum playstyle.

[GameFreak]

Typical noob scum playstyle.

You got me i'm scum , obviously.

[Kromos]

You got me i'm scum , obviously.

Typical scum response.

Care to answer my questions? If you are town then you have nothing to fear .

[McJesus]

This is pretty much my impression of day1

[Zack]

Why Kromos, but there is a reason to fear answering these. Dying first night. I'l pass on that, thanks. Go ahead and make yourself the town leader who will die first, i'd rather live a little longer. Take this however you wish.

Trolling be more fun day one :3

Here, have some cabbages.

[Escaho]

Wow, page 7 already. With all the trolling and lack of knowledge based on this anime, I think I'm really gonna have to go watch some of it to figure out some of these character/names. Battlestar Galactica was so much easier after having watched it. =p

It's really weird not having an election on Day 1 (since I've only been in one FM that had it and the previous FMs I had read included that mechanic). However, you can draw a lot of conclusions from people on Day 1 based on previous play styles and how troll-y they are. Then again, people play differently if they are a different faction.

I have to go brush up on the character roles again. Someone said something about planting bombs, so I'm a little out of the loop.

[GameFreak]

Typical scum response.

Care to answer my questions? If you are town then you have nothing to fear .

I don't think the setup is naturally unfair , but shit happens , If Jeremiah or Diethard dies first night , Then it still won't matter if the setup is balanced or not. If you understand my point , therefore i find your little questionnaire useless.

[Nick]

Meh. All trolls. I don't care anymore. Newbies make sure you think about your roles properly. Kromos is asking a good question. Do think about it even if you do not want to answer.

I claim Executioner. Good night. Will be back in 10 hours.

And please delete the intruding post. Thank you.

[Kromos]

Who is the person you trust the most? (You can only answer with a name. DON'T say you trust no one or haven't mind your mind up yet. Who is the person you instinctively trust the most from what they have said so far?) Why do you trust them the most?

CmG. He is trolling like always but when he's town he is less aggressive (from the games I have seen). From what has been said so far he is my most trusted person.

Do you think this game is unfair (imbalanced against) for the Town? Why / why not?

No. It might be harder than in some other games but I think the town have a very real chance of winning.

Do you think this game is unfair for the Mafia? Why / why not?

No. They have 4 very powerful members with the possibility of gaining 2 more later. They are perhaps the most likely faction to win but town are very close to them in power.

Do you think this game is unfair for Jeremiah Gottwald? Why / why not?

Yes, he is one man who has to kill every other person. Like all SKs he has almost no chance of winning. He will not join mafia as we won't lynch the jailor.

Do you think this game is unfair for Diethard Ried? Why / why not?

Yes, he has no vest so can die at any moment. The chance of recruiting 3 students by then is very unlikely and without a recruiter they will lose as well. He has almost no chance of joining the mafia, although this is more likely than Jeremiah.

[BorkBot]

Hello folks. I have a feeling this game is going to be quite random with all the double abilities and stuff, but we'll see how it turns out.

I want to point out a flaw in Zane's logic when he filled in Kromos' questionnaire:

Do you think this game is unfair (imbalanced against) for the Town? Why / why not?

watermelon , because green

Do you think this game is unfair for the Mafia? Why / why not?

apple, because red

Do you think this game is unfair for Jeremiah Gottwald? Why / why not?

orange , because orange

Do you think this game is unfair for Diethard Ried? Why / why not?

chocolate, because brown

Watermelons are red on the inside, apples can be green on the outside and are never red on the inside and white chocolate is white, not brown.

That is all.

[Kromos]

Why Kromos, but there is a reason to fear answering these. Dying first night. I'l pass on that, thanks. Go ahead and make yourself the town leader who will die first, i'd rather live a little longer. Take this however you wish.

You seem to think my questions would help to reveal town PRs when in reality they are not incredibly useful. You obviously have some fear that these questions will reveal too much about you.

The point of these questions is to gain information that can be used in retrospect, similar to the votes in the mayoral election. People often have different opinions on balance depending on their alignment. While people can easily (or in some cases not so easily) lie, this should get some information out of them when otherwise we will gain little of use from this day.

I want people to say who they trust most to help identify teams (or most cases, identify who is not a team, depending on how many layers of wifom they use). We will be able to look back on this information and could gleam something useful from it, but I am under no illusions that this will instantly find us the scum.

[Kromos]

I don't think the setup is naturally unfair , but shit happens , If Jeremiah or Diethard dies first night , Then it still won't matter if the setup is balanced or not. If you understand my point , therefore i find your little questionnaire useless.

Can you please fill out the questionnaire?

[Dimwit]

-Become M-FM IV GM

Roll my dice, please.

[Zack]

Fear these questions? I do not fear the questions, nor the answers. I just told you what I fear, don't be making shit up.

[McJesus]

Honestly I'm still pretty confused about the setup to comment on balance, I've been trying to get all the details of it hammered out in my mind but I have some questions which may seem obvious but oh well

1) so most of these guys have the ability of two roles? Does this mean they have to choose between which of these roles to use at night? So the executioner has investigation powers, what is the purpose for that? Same goes for the jester having spy powers?

2) do the citizens act as the students? I don't see a student role there so I must assume that. Does that mean one of the citizens is secretly mafia aligned? Do they know that they are mafia aligned?

3) Euphemia li Britannia says he is a town alligned jester... that just doesn't compute with me.

[Dimwit]

1) so most of these guys have the ability of two roles? Does this mean they have to choose between which of these roles to use at night? So the executioner has investigation powers, what is the purpose for that? Same goes for the jester having spy powers?

You just narrowed down your own role, Jesus.

[Kromos]

Fear these questions? I do not fear the questions, nor the answers. I just told you what I fear, don't be making shit up.

there is a reason to fear answering these. Dying first night. i'd rather live a little longer. Take this however you wish.

You told me that you fear dying first night because of answering the questions, right?

[Kromos]

Honestly I'm still pretty confused about the setup to comment on balance, I've been trying to get all the details of it hammered out in my mind but I have some questions which may seem obvious but oh well

1) so most of these guys have the ability of two roles? Does this mean they have to choose between which of these roles to use at night? So the executioner has investigation powers, what is the purpose for that? Same goes for the jester having spy powers?

2) do the citizens act as the students? I don't see a student role there so I must assume that. Does that mean one of the citizens is secretly mafia aligned? Do they know that they are mafia aligned?

3) Euphemia li Britannia says he is a town alligned jester... that just doesn't compute with me.

Read the FAQ for most of your questions.

The executioner could use his investigation result to help lynch scum and gain the trust of the town. The next day he could say he investigated his target and get him lynched. He could also investigate his target which might help him when he claims a role.

The jester could use the mafia's night chat to help implicate himself as he knows what the mafia is doing.