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    MM visits 1, BG visits 12, no Witch or Bus driver in the game, Bg dies to MM

    Hotkey/In-game Name/number/Role

    Cntrl 2 / SirMad / 6 / Bodyguard
    Cntrl 6 / JAILOR BOI / 12 / Mass Murderer

    Ok so the Mass Murderer which is number 12 chooses to visit number 1 night one. The Bodyguard which is number 6 chooses to protect 12 (the MM) n1.
    I checked and there is not a single bus driver or witch in the game. There is a beguiler but he is player 8 so he's not involved in either of these actions.

    The bodyguard ends up dying to the MM along with the players who actually visited player 1.


    Is this a bug or is it intended that since the BG was protecting the MM, he followed him to the target house and then got killed there?

    bug - mm kills bg.SC2Replay
    Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?

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    Re: MM visits 1, BG visits 12, no Witch or Bus driver in the game, Bg dies to MM

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    Intended.
    I’m going to explain why this is intended
    Think about mm logic as a real life. The bodyguard choose to protect the mm so HE FOLLOWED the mm to the mm target house. Therefore it’s considered that bodyguard has follow mm to his target house so, the mm kill everyone in that house including the bodyguard


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    Re: MM visits 1, BG visits 12, no Witch or Bus driver in the game, Bg dies to MM

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukitaka Oni View Post
    I’m going to explain why this is intended
    Think about mm logic as a real life. The bodyguard choose to protect the mm so HE FOLLOWED the mm to the mm target house. Therefore it’s considered that bodyguard has follow mm to his target house so, the mm kill everyone in that house including the bodyguard
    Thank you for the explanation! That's what I was assuming was the reason I just wasn't sure if that was the mechanic or not. It's cool how there are always more little nuances of the game to learn.
    Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?

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    Re: MM visits 1, BG visits 12, no Witch or Bus driver in the game, Bg dies to MM

    Does everyone who targets the MM visit the same house that MM does?

    Or is it role-specific? Doctor and BG would always be near the MM, while investigator wouldn't. What about lookout/detective?

    Can anyone make a full list of roles that target the MM-targeted-house and list of roles that target the MM-house? Could be a worthy addition to https://sc2mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Murderer

    A Doctor will save someone who is targeted by the Mass Murderer and stays in their "home", the Doctor will still die.
    A Bodyguard will kill a Mass Murderer who attacks the Bodyguard's target at the target's home.
    Lookouts and Detectives do not survive if they visit the Mass Murderer's target.
    Escorts and Consorts do survive if they visit the Mass Murderer and the Mass Murderer is visiting himself.
    Learn something new every day. Btw - that highlighted part in that quote. I assume nothing in that sentence would chance if that highlighted part would be removed? Why is it here? It must have some purpose that I don't understand.
    Last edited by OzyWho; January 8th, 2018 at 07:06 PM.

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    Re: MM visits 1, BG visits 12, no Witch or Bus driver in the game, Bg dies to MM

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    Does everyone who targets the MM visit the same house that MM does?

    Or is it role-specific? Doctor and BG would always be near the MM, while investigator wouldn't. What about lookout/detective?

    Can anyone make a full list of roles that target the MM-targeted-house and list of roles that target the MM-house? Could be a worthy addition to https://sc2mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Murderer


    Learn something new every day. Btw - that highlighted part in that quote. I assume nothing in that sentence would chance if that highlighted part would be removed? Why is it here? It must have some purpose that I don't understand.
    it's prolly just included to make it extra clear that it is ONLY true if the BG visits MM's target rather than the MM himself
    Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Jar Jar the wise?

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    Re: MM visits 1, BG visits 12, no Witch or Bus driver in the game, Bg dies to MM

    Quote Originally Posted by Yukitaka Oni View Post
    I’m going to explain why this is intended
    Think about mm logic as a real life. The bodyguard choose to protect the mm so HE FOLLOWED the mm to the mm target house. Therefore it’s considered that bodyguard has follow mm to his target house so, the mm kill everyone in that house including the bodyguard
    yep, just like how the TC phrased it in the OP when he asked it if was intended that way or not.

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    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Re: MM visits 1, BG visits 12, no Witch or Bus driver in the game, Bg dies to MM

    Quote Originally Posted by OzyWho View Post
    How many roles follow their target and how many roles visit their targets house only?
    Important info when we talk about MM.
    Sheriff, investigator visit people house
    Detective, doctor, bodyguard followed their target
    The list could go on but I haven’t play mafia again to re-check if there is anything updated
    It’s funny the town always consider me a mafia for....being a smartass in this little details. Meh, this is why I play lurk as a mafia, because if town is dumb then don’t ask me why I am not being nice to’em


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    Yukitaka Oni ~Tafkal Hit Squad Member~

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    Ganelon
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    Re: MM visits 1, BG visits 12, no Witch or Bus driver in the game, Bg dies to MM

    I've just been in a game where a Detective successfully detected the Mass Murderer visiting his target without being attacked. So, this might actually be a bug...

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    Re: MM visits 1, BG visits 12, no Witch or Bus driver in the game, Bg dies to MM

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    I've just been in a game where a Detective successfully detected the Mass Murderer visiting his target without being attacked. So, this might actually be a bug...
    It's not a bug

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    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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    Ganelon
    Guest

    Re: MM visits 1, BG visits 12, no Witch or Bus driver in the game, Bg dies to MM

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptonic View Post
    It's not a bug
    The detective did NOT die.

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    Re: MM visits 1, BG visits 12, no Witch or Bus driver in the game, Bg dies to MM

    Quote Originally Posted by Magoroth View Post
    The detective did NOT die.
    He's not supposed to
    BG fights MM When protecting MM. What does Detective have to do with this mechanic.

    Quote Originally Posted by S-FM Blue Masquerader View Post
    Hey moron. shut the fuck up or I will shut you up, k? I'm not the person your going to insult and live happily ever after. K? Understand that,

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